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Hi does anybody have any pictures of leisure equipment and Micks models from the 80s? My dad owned the shops and said leisure equipment was number 58 Fulham palace road
Check with The borough Archives as well.
I have a photograph of Cadogan iron works which I have found out was situated on Lots road Chelsea. It is taken inside the foundary and shows a group of workers, one of which I believe is my mothers father who was born in 1890’s and lived in Fulham where my mother was born.
Does anyone have more information about the company and people who worked there?
Hello! I was wondering if anyone has pictures of The Curtain’s Up Pub from when it was still called Baron’s Ale House? I haven’t had any luck thus far, so if anyone has ideas of who to contact, or if you have some yourself, i’d very much appreciate them!
Don’t forget to do a Google search, check borough archives and try this web site https://imsvintagephotos.com/products/ron-phillips-in-the-theatre-under-the-barons-ale-house-west-kensington-vintage-photograph-860384
I have been given an envelope sent by a lady from Ukraine to her father in London W12 in (I think 1961) It is addressed to him at 2, Cornyard Grove, London, W12 but was returned to them as ‘Not Listed’. Could anyone suggest a reason. Did the address really not exist? Had it been demolished, or could it just have been ‘lost in translation’? The man concerned turns out to have been my late father, too, and I would dearly love to know why the letter was returned and where he actually lived. Can anyone help, please? He has since died, but the family would love to know why the letter came back to them.
that was his name – he might appear in electrol register or old phone books
possibly is should have been
Cornford Grove, London, SW12
Many thanks for your help Chris. I’d searched every street in W12 on the electoral registers on Ancestry and found nothing, but this looks a distinct possibility. I shall do another search using this address. thank you so much!
I’ve just double checked the envelope and can just make out the S in SW12, and the Cornyard could easily be Cornford. But now I have come to a stop. How do I find the register of Electors for Balham in 1961? Ancestry have some but only up to 1945. Could you tell me who would have those records, please?
Contact Wandsworth Borough Council, or the London Metropolitan Archives. They should have these electoral rolls.
I suggest you start with The Wandsworth heritage centre 020 7223 2334. heritage@gll.org
They will either have paper copies of the electoral rolls or know who has.
The likely problem is that your date was before the new London Boroughs were formed in (I Think) 1964 so they might have sent all the old records off to the metropolitan archives.
Good luck
I’ve been to Wandsworth Archives and have a library card. I can go and visit and get the information for you if you can confirm they have the registers you need. I’m not sure a foreign national would have the right to vote though.
Foreign nationals would not have the right to vote but the register would state which brits were living at the property that year. If I remember correctly the register was compiled in the autumn and came into force next spring. I don’t think there was in those days the option of a late registration as there is now. There were no computers then!
Thanks for all your help. I had totally forgotten that my father as a released POW would not have had a vote, but I will get in touch with Handsworth anyway and hope they might have some other information which could be helpful to the family.
Wandswortharchives should have your answer
Thanks to everyone for your comments and suggestions. I will get on to Wandsworth, even though I can’t find a a Natualization certificate for him, and therefore won’t have had a vote. They might have some other information that could be useful to the family.
Hello, I am the House manager of a residential property in Fulham and am trying to find a local historian who could come and speak to our residents about the local area and and some of its history.
Hi there, I’m contacting on behalf of Their Finest Hour, a WW2 digital history project based at the University of Oxford. We are working with the Polish Social and Cultural Association (POSK) to organise WW2 ‘Digital Collection Days’ on Wednesday 1 – Thursday 2 November 2023 (9:30am-6pm).
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Would you like to preserve these stories and objects, digitally, before they are lost to history?
Bring your family’s stories, diaries, letters, photos and other objects* our Digital Collection event, where they will be recorded and added to a free-to-use online
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This is a new question (rather than a reply to anything). I am researching Penelope Wheeler. She and her husband Charles Edwin (known as Christopher) lived at River House, Upper Mall, Hammersmith, between at least March 1911 and June 1915. He was one of the country’s leading homeopathic doctors, she was an actress. She was connected with Hampshire House, Hog Lane and in January 1915 was Chair of its Committee for Refugee Housing and Workshops (she also did a play of his at the House that year). I’d be grateful for any locally held information about her (or them). I’ve been through BNA. Neither Wheeler seems to have a dedicated archive.
Hello, I am looking for information about a possible Catholic orphanage in the Fulham area from about 1927. Apparently my grandmother & her sister’s went there when their father went to prison. I’ve found the family on the 1921 census at Chelmsford Street (now Chelmsford Close). Any leads would be greatly appreciated!
You could try St. Josephs in Brook Green, behind the church of that name. I know that at one time there were only two Catholic Churches in the area, St. Thomas’s in Fulham and St. Josephs in Brook Green. The Fulham Board of Guardians placed their “orphans” there until the age of 14 or so. I found on 1901 Census a list of staff, nuns, and girls.
I am interested in the Rev John Owen and more specifically his wife Charlotte Owen (nee Green) who I believe was buried All Saints Fulham 26 March 1844 aged 75 years. John and Charlotte Owen are my third Great Grand Parents. Charlotte Green’s ancestry is a mystery and I was hoping that the church records may have more precise details of her dates of birth and death. Some guidance as to further research paths would be appreciated.
I’m researching the life of the Russian writer and Nihilist Sergei Stepniak (1851-95). There is already a lot of material about him, especially about his time living in Bedford Park, and his death of the railway line at Woodstock Road. My query at the moment though is about the address 22 Ormiston Road W12, from where his widow Fanny Stepniak published one of his last works, the play The New Convert, posthumously in 1897. There doesn’t seem to be an Ormiston Road any longer, only an Ormiston Grove. Perhaps someone can help me with that. Quite a few Russian exiles lived in West London at the end of the nineteenth century but I haven’t been able to link this address to any in particular. The address comes from the frontespiece of the published edition of the play in Russian, with the title also in French. Bernard Shaw helped Stepniak’s widow get it performed on the London stage (the Avenue Theatre) in June 1898, and I’m assuming Fanny translated it for the occasion. Or possibly her husband wrote it originally in English. There was a later translation published in Boston in 1917 but that doesn’t account for how London playgoers were able to watch The Convert in English in 1898, as published from Ormiston Road the previous year.
Hi Lesley – Avetis Nazarbekian (also known as Avetis Nazarbek) lived at 22 Ormiston Road in 1897. You will find a lot of information about him online but he was an Armenian poet, journalist, activist and revolutionary and published many works. I think you will find that he is the connection you are looking for. I hope this helps!
Thanks so much. I’ve read quite a bit about Nazarbek and his wife and their Russian friends. What puzzles me is what happened to Ormiston Road. I can see Ormiston Grove on all the maps but the only road with that name today is in south London. Did it get renamed somehow? I’m not local but I thought I’d sound out locals before I come down and have a look.
On Find My Past site if you go to census address search you can put in Ormiston Road, Hammersmith for 1891 (9 households) or 1901 ( 1-49 households including number 22). If you have credits with them, I am afraid I haven’t any at the moment, I think you can see who was there at the time.
The street is probably like it was then. The houses today are quite old, late Victorian or Edwardian. It is Ormiston Grove off Uxbridge Road.
Yes that’s a good idea. I’ll do that. Plus pay a visit. Thanks for your help.
Ormiston Road was renamed Ormiston Grove around the late 1930’s but it is the same street, just off Uxbridge Road. Avetis Nazarbekian wrote letters to the newspapers from 22 Ormiston Road in the 1890s in relation to the Hunchak Society and was one of the speakers at Stepniak’s funeral. So interesting- good luck with your research!
Just what I needed to know. Many thanks
Hi there,
I live at The Old Fire Station 244 Shepherds Bush Rd and I wanted help building a proposal for an English Heritage Blue Plaque for the building. We are Grade II listed but local developments granted are damaging the building’s preservation as are the iterative planning permission granted to local commercial units. Do you have any advice or knowledge of records that could help this endeavour?
Hi there,
I live at The Old Fire Station 244 Shepherds Bush Rd and I wanted help building a proposal for an English Heritage Blue Plaque for the building. We are Grade II listed but local developments granted are damaging the building’s preservation as are the iterative planning permission granted to local commercial units. Do you have any advice or knowledge of records that could help this endeavour?
Yes he was my grandad
I am the historian of the Royal Tank Regiment and I am researching a man who is believed to have died in 1917. Through some interesting research I have found a connection to what was then known as the Actors’ Church Union. They had a roll of honour of actors who died in the Great War but it seems that the whereabouts of memorial roll of honour is not known by anyone (I have spoken to the team at St Paul’s Covent Garden which is the Actors’ Church).
In my digging around I have discovered that the ACU opened a War Memorial Hostel at 81 Sinclair Road. It strikes me that an establishment with that name would be a good place to have a war memorial roll of honour.
The hostel is long gone, it closed in 1958, and the building is now flats. Does anyone have any records relating to the roll of honour please?
The National Archives has records in its online catalogue for the Actors church union, interestingly Mandell Creighton Bishop of London living at Fulham has correspondence with them around 1898. These are held be Lambeth palace in their “Fulham Papers”. You could also check with Hammersmith archives.
Researching in the online British Newspaper archives there is an article that says that there is a memorial with names on in the entrance hall of Drury Lane theatre….The Stage 4th Nov 1926.
As you may know the greatwarforum.org has a very poor photograph of one, and i suspect this is the one you are refering to.
You do not mention his name. The War memorial register, under the entry Theatre Royal Drury lane says the memorial is not lost, and lists all the names on the memorial it appears.
Thank you. The men I am researching are Stanislaus and Lionel Calhaem (sometimes spelled Calhaen).
The TRDR memorial and the ACU memorial roll of honour are 2 different things and it is believed that the ACU memorial roll of honour is the most accurate which is why I am very keen to try and track it down, or at least a list of the names.
Looking for old pictures of chelmsford street w6 i grew up there
I would like help with an historical enquiry.When I lived in Stoneleigh we had coal delivered by a firm called I think Herbert J Wilkes and Sons. My father said this firm used to be called Last and Wilkes or the other way around. The Censuses of 1881 and1891 show an Isaac Last living in the Fulham area being described as a coal carrier. Isaac Last was my father’s grandfather. Can anyone throw any light on this such as ads in local newspapers,trade magazines etc either side of 1900
Hi Vanessa,
I am writing a book on my Last Family and would like your help with an Historical enquiry.
My father Harold Last b1909 the middle of 3 brothers was brought up in Southfields before marrying in 1938 and moving to Stoneleigh where I was borne.
There if memory serves me right we had coal delivered by a firm called Herbert J Wilkes and Co. or Sons. My father used to say that this firm was once called Last and Wilkes or Wilkes and Last.
The censuses of 1881 and 1891 show that an Isaac Last living in Fulham was a coal carrier so there might well be some truth in what my father told me. FYI Isaac Last was my father’s grandfather.
So I wonder if one of your members could search censuses, trade magazines ,local newspapers etc. of the times, to see if there were any ads for the company, photos of coal yards, horse drawn wagons even of individuals.
I am more than willing to pay for this research by way of a donation to the Society if this is the procedure.
Kind regards,
Michael Last
H Vanessa, I’m also looking for photos of Chelmsford St, W6. Do you remember there being a greengrocers, A. Frost’s?
He was alfred frost who was a market trader in north end road fulham he was one of three generations to trade there he died in 1964 aged 52 he lived at 33 chelmsford street but grew up in church path now lillie walk
Amazing! Thank you for the detail. We’ll take very good care of Alfred’s sign. Do you know where Chelmsford Street was? What’s the closest road to it now?
It’s now chelmsford close there is a pub on the corner called the pear tree which is still there the next street up is claxton grove
Hi Vanessa, we are also looking for details of Chelmsford Street, W6, particularly a fruiterer and greengrocers at no.33, A.Frost’s. Does that ring any bells?
Yes it does he was my grandad
Oh, wow! Our family have had the old shop hand-painted sign for many years! My father-in-law most likely bought it in King’s Rd or at auction around 30 years ago, possibly? Sadly he died a couple of years ago and my husband had such fond memories of it growing up he’s taken it on and it’s now hanging on our kitchen wall. He has always wondered where the address is/was. Are you able to tell us anything about it? What period was the shop there? Who is “A” Frost?
My family comes from Fulham address is on Victoria Road 1891 census and Langford Rd 1911 census. I can see the houses on Google Maps , but I wonder if those are originals or rebuilds . They certainly look old ! Great Grandfather I was a bricklayer according to census . Surname Hender .
Looking for photos and memories of the winslow nursery that was next to fulham hospital fulham palace rd back in the 1950’s
Looking for photos or comments about the nursery I went to in 57 or 58. Next to fulham hospital . Then I went to melcombe primary. I think the nursery may have been called winslow. Any info would be great.
I remember the nursery. I was a young patient in the children’s ward in Fulham Hospital and I remember a domestic worker who had a child in the nursery while she worked at the hospital. Just something I remember as a child!
Have a look at some old maps of Hammersmith and Fulham circa 1900 to 1960. As stated Ancill Close now exists roughly in the vacinty of Ancill street. Ancill close is in the vacinty of Bayonne park. A world war 2 bomb landed in this area.
I’m trying to find the locate Ancil street in fulham not sure if it still exists and cannot find it on Google I lived there in 1970
Ancell Street? Or Ansell? My grandfather was born there.
It’s still there.
Unfortunately demolished surrounding streets aswell.
Thanks len do you know the location now?
Ancill Street came off Greyhound Road, Fulham, SW6. I was born and lived in Adeney Road, the next road. The houses were all demolished in approx 1966 onwards for redevelopment. If you find the big tree further down Lillie Road (on the left going away from Fulham Palace Road) then Ancill Street was the turning just before the tree! A bit long winded but I left, unfortunately , in 1965!
Hi Sue it’s almost in the same vicinity
off of crefeld close.
Hope this helps. Lenny F
Hi Maxine it is now ancill close off crefeld close it should be on Maps.
Best Wishes Len.
Maxine,
Ancell street existed in the late 19th century and is mentioned in ‘Fulham Old and New’ as being close to Twynholm Hall which was built to be a pub (The Queen Anne) but bought by a scottish person who used it to champion the temperance movement.
At some point the area was redeveloped and Ancill Close is now a cul de sac of town houses which might have been built in the 1970s. If you google Ancill Close it will come up.
Looking for any information on My great Grandmother, Annie Butler No 7,Dimsdale road Fulham her Husband was william butler. They were living there in 1880, in 1881 when William had a Railway accident at queens road station. They had 2 Boys Henry John and William George. Butler, Any information will be greatly appreciated.
Do you perhaps have any info/images please for the former borough storage site, bounded by Greyhound Rd & Lillie Rd, entered via Bayonne Rd, hence ‘Bayonne Rd site.’ From the 80s it was developed into Spencer Mews, Abbey Gardens & the current park.
Hello,
This is a long shot, but do any Society members have any knowledge/information about the following firms:
Gray & Co (Coachbuilders) Ltd: were thought to have been based at 102-104 King Street, but research suggests that this is wrong.
G. R. Panel Craft Ltd, a firm of panel beaters who were based at Wilton Yard (off Latimer Road W10, just over the border in Kensington). In business from 1955 to about 1976, although the firm had moved from Wilton Yard in 1970 or thereabouts to Wandsworth.
Many thanks for any and all help – gratefully received.
Dr Andrew Lewis
I am trying to find information about a family member, Thomas Beasley, who is said to have worked at the Rumbelows Electrical Store in North End Road in the 1960s/1970s. Does anyone out there have any recollection of working there during that period? Thank you.
Any information please. My mother and I were in what was know as a ‘halfway house’ for homeless people Fulham Road 1953. Does anyone know the place? Thank you
Do you have any photographs of a pub called the Prince of Wales with the address 147 Greyhound Road, Fulham although the pub was located on the junction of Margravine Road and Greyhound Road. The bub was built in the late 19th century and demolished in the late 1960s
My wife bought a land survey with a lease agreement written on it for Richford Street next to the Kensington Hammersmith and Richmond Railway. It has the seals and signatures of John Harvey and Frederick Douse. 1877. We are looking for more info on this document. Thanks in advance!
Brian
Hi,
In 1879 My great grandfather lived in Barker Terrace, North End but that street may have been demolished
Do you mean North End Road Fulham?
Does anybody have a photograph of Mooltan street, Fulham, before it was bombed in 1944?
Hello. I’m writing from the United States. I’m finishing up a book on Titanic. Henry Sutehall, Jr., who died in the sinking was born at 20 Burnthwaite Road in Fulham. Henry is one of the main persons in the book and I’m hoping to find a picture of the home that was there circa 1912. Please let me know if you can help. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Burnthwaite Road is a row of terraced houses in Fulham SW6 .
The three storey house is still there at the east end of the road .
Instant Google street view clearly shows number 24 and No 20 is next door but one at the end of the terrace .
2- 18 are no longer there . Possibly due to bomb damage in WW2 .
You can see on street view that No 18 was previously attached as you can see the beginning of the brick arch at No 20 over the former front door of no 18 .
If you need a better photo of the building let me know and I will pop round and take a shot and email it .
Hi Barbara, are you featuring any of the crew? One of the engineers was named Chisnall and my Grandfather was a Chisnall from Suffolk. He is named on a Titanic memorial in Southampton.
Hi Barbara,
The house at 20 Burnthwaite is still there and is contemporary in age with the other houses on Burnthwaite Rd that were built pre-Titanic (houses 1 – 18 were demolished some years ago to make way for a local supermarket)
I am in Fulham now and would be happy to take a picture of the house if that would be of use.
Best regards,
Calum
email: calumandtess@gmail.com
I am researching for a book on a Victorian man who was registered as a 6-year-old at ‘King Street Grove Hall’ in the 1841 census. There were some 19 women registered there at the time. I have not yet been able to find out what kind of establishment Grove Hall was, so if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
Hello the Book Britain in Old Photographs FULHAM by Christine Bayliss & Jane Kimber.
The photo on the front (& in the book on pg. 48 shows a barge with the name Alfred) do you know who Alfred was? Thanks. Tess
i am investigating the Internation Time Recording company. address Beavor Lane Hammersmith. London W4. I am in the process of renovating a Time Recording Clock and found a label inside with the above address and some numbers serial and model.
This as the name suggests was an International company and later became IBM. The Company was active from1889-1914. Check out IBM .com and their archives section for more details, and then take it on from there The company was founded by a William L. Bundy in 18888
There is some interesting information on the Work clocks site hope it helps. ..https://www.workclocks.co.uk/companies.html
The present Clockwork Building at number 45 Beavor Lane is built on the site of their factory.
“The International Time Recording company” was one of the companies which, after much amalgamation and some splintering (Bundy family fallouts), became IBM.
Just use an internet search engine, (suggest everyone does this using keywords related to their topic) putting in the above name +/- “Hammersmith” etc. and you will find loads of information on their history, both here and in the U.S.A. plus images of equipment (some for sale), places they can be seen and details of what has happened to the site at the address you mention.
Thanks I have been in touch with IBM they appear to have a museum as yet not had any response
Sorry but in addition the works are clearly marked on the ordnance survey map c1952 I use from the National Library of Scotland. Walked round the area with my brother a few months ago using this map and the 1894 map for comparison. Good luck with your research.
There was , I have a photo , a depot with stables , rather grand back in the 1800s and I was wondering where in fact it was on Munster Rd ? I mean I believe it is the Munster rd depot but where in the road ?
The depot was located in the southern part of Munster road (between New Kings Road and Fulham Road) and was on the left hand side facing north. It was one of the Fulham Borough council refuse depots Mustow Place flats and complex at 36 Munster Road are built on the site. A 3 bedroom terrace house on the site would now cost c.£1.1
million (83 sq metres.
Thank you very much
I think it could of been the Coca-Cola depot in Munster Road near Wyfold Road. 👍
I have an ancestor living at 14 Model Dwellings, Fulham, London in the 1881 Census. Would anyone know where that is located?
Hi
I wonder if you might be able to help me. I am trying to find out more information about a Dairy shop at 5 Ackmar Road. My family lived here in 1901 and they were Dairymen dealers or milk carriers. The family name is Seaton. I have also noticed that opposite Ackmar road is a small road called Dairy Close and wondered if there may have been a dairy here also. I have also noticed that 5 Ackmar road is a different style of house to the rest of the houses in the road and looks more modern.
I have an ancestor Harriett Hill Brazier (nee Price) whose death certificate notes she died in May 1877 at 3 Peterborough Terrace in Fulham. I am aware of Peterborough Road, but was wondering if anyone knows where Peterborough Terrace might have been located?
peterborough Terrace was renamed Harwood Road Terrace in 1881. Its now the first turning on the left as you go down Bagleys lane from the New Kings Road.
Thankyou so much!
Fulham Workhouse was on Fulham Palace Road. It became Fulham Hospital, which was demolished in the 1960s and rebuilt as Charing Cross Hospital.
I’m searching for my grandfather ,he passed away just before I was born .I haven’t got much information about him ,only that his name is Thomas Ronald sumpter ,he was in the navy and served as Churchill’s right hand man .As I’ve been told he was sunk 5 times in the war and survived ,married to my grandmother Mrs Lilian sumpter mother of four children ,eldest my father Derek Edward sumpter born 1942 10th of August , Kensington,London followed by a younger brother ,tony sumpter born on the 8th of August ,then Peter sumpter and finally a younger sister Diane sumpter born on the 31st of August .I wish to find out more about my grandfather I unfortunately didn’t get to meet him .
Hi Joanne
Service records for WW2 veterans are still with the MOD but are in the process of being transferred to the National Archives at Kew. There is a long backlog of applications for copies. You or your father should be able to apply but will need his death certificate. More details here
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records
Hi , was grove avenue part of Fulham work house ? , trying to find more info about my family tree , can’t find this on any maps
I can’t see Grove Avenue near Fulham Workhouse on a Victorian map. The workhouse was on the upper part of Fulham Palace Road near Hammersmith.
Grove Avenue became Heckfield place, where the former Fulham police station was. The site has jut been redeveloped again into a school. Its behind Waitrose and opposite the Fulham Sorting office.
Yes, I can now see a Grove Avenue on an old map. Where the old police station was, as stated above, now Heckfield Place. The nearby streets, Rock Avenue and Lodge Avenue, where my grandparents lived, were very poor streets.
Hi , hope you can help me , tracing my family tree , have found family born in Grove St Fulham , unable to find it on any map , Family name Crisp . Any information , would be amazing
Many thanks
Alison Thynne
There is a CRISP family living at 22 Grove Place in Ealing in 1911. William Crisp, his wife Emily and 2 children Henry and Louisa.
I think Grove Place in Ealing is now just known as The Grove.
In the A-Z of Victorian London there is The Grove that ran from Goldhawk Road to King Street Hammersmith. I noticed there are a lot of Crisp names in the later censuses in Hammersmith and Fulham. Any more info on what you know would be very helpful.
the grove running from goldhawk rd to hammersmith broadway became Hammersmith grove Grove
but still known to to locals as the grove
The name Chrisp has been associated with Hammersmith since the Stuart times. Sir Nicholas crisp is said to have pioneered much of the African Slave Trade , and had glass beads manuactured in Hammersmith for bartering.
I believe there is a monument i St Pauals Church hammersmith.
Suggest you also visit the “resistance exhibition” at Fulham Palace, which addresses some of the resistance put up to such injustices and the role played by the church and Bishop of london in the transatlantic slave trade.
Alison, The family of Sir Nicholas Crispe were originally farmers and came from the west country. He made his money as a City of London trader and in the reign of Charles I gained the exclusive rights to the trade (slaves etc) with ‘Guinea’ which I think meant part of the coast of West Africa. When he signed his name he spelt it in capitals ‘N. CRISP’ (no e). Before the Civil War He was an MP and member of the long Parliament. He supported the King during the Civil War after which the new republican government confiscated much of his land and possessions including the lands in Fulham (roughly the Crabtree Estate). He fled to France with Charles II but seems to have revisited England during the Protectorate. On the restitution of the Monarchy he returned as a great supporter of the new King Much of his wealth was restored but he died a few years later.
There is quite a lot about him in ‘Fulham Old and New’ there is a whole chapter on the family and there is a family tree. If you don’t have a copy the Hammersmith and Fulham archive has several copies of the books available for public view.
Of course your family may have no connection with this chap as Crisp is not exactly a rare surname.
Hi, Can anyone please advise if Studio Six, 6 Royal Parade, Dawes Road, SW6 7RE is still open. I have been trying to contact them without success. I am not local so am unsure if they have moved or closed. I would like to get in touch with Ken Scott if anyone has details or a forwarding address. Many thanks, Nicola
Would anyone have any information relating to the occupants of 63 Tregunter Road, South Kensington in March 1926. My grandmother was a housemaid there according to my mothers birth certificate.
Would anyone have any information as to the occupants of 62 Tregunter Road, South Kensington in March 1926?
My mother was born on 14th February 1926 at 302 Fulham Palace Road and I cannot find this address in any records so was it part of the West London Hospital? Her birth mothers maiden name was Foote or Foot and married name was Alice Mary Clarke or Clark. If anyone has any information that could assist me with this search then I would be extremely grateful as my mother was adopted by a family near Bath, Somerset and I have no details of her birth father. My contact details are newtrevor65@gmail.com and 07544732316. Thank you Trevor New
Today, 302 Fulham Palace Road is on the corner of Lysia Street on the west side of FP Road.
The West London Hospital was in Hammersmith Road, but there could have been annexes in other places. I will look on older maps for that date 1920s and get back to you.
In 1914, 302 Fulham Palace Road was the South Western Maternity Home and Nursing Institution
Thank you Lesley
Glimmerglassjen, it’s interesting that 302 FP Road was a maternity home, do you think it was in the house or houses that are there now?
TRevor, did you see a picture of the Maternity Home 302 Fulham Palace Road? I have just come across a photo in a Fulham history book. If you would like a scan of it then email me at lesleybairstow@yahoo.co.uk
Hi, I am new to this. Could anyone point me in the right direction for information/history on Irish immigration around the Parsons Green area from 1880’s to 1910’s. There only seems to be a paragraph or sentence in the local history books.
My Great Great grandfather from Cork emigrated to Parsons Green Lane about 1880. According to the census he was a Vestry Labourer, does that mean he worked for the Council ? Did the Irish come over to help build Putney Bridge ??
My Irish family lived at No:54 Parsons Green lane, the row of houses doesn’t exist anymore. Does anyone know when they were pulled down ?
Thank you, Sarah.
There were a great many arrivals in Fulham from Ireland in the 19th century. In the mid part of the century most came to work as agricultural labourers in the numerous market gardens which then covered much of Fulham (supplying food to London). They were nearly all Catholics and so founded first St Thomas’ church and later Holy Cross Church.
I don’t know anything about how who built the ‘new’ Putney Bridge but I suspect it was very likely that as the market gardens gave was to housing then the workers would change their work to building.
The vestry was the local authority (think Parish Council but with more powers)
My Great-Grandfather was a elected member of the vestry in the 1880’s and later became Mayor of Fulham in 1906. Its seems highly likely that your ancestor would have known who he was and they probably met.
Hi Basil,
Thank you. You have answered a lot of my queries.
My gt gt grandad probably met your ancestor. I did find a photograph of the Vestry men in Fulham library from around 1890. I think they were in a football team.
Just one more question, house numbers 52-56 Parsons Green lane (between the station and the CO-OP) do you know when they were pulled down ? Or where I could go for the information.
Regards,
Sarah.
Sarah, I can see that the Donavan family lived at54 PGL in 1901 and that James worked for the Vestry but his wife was from Southampton.
I have been looking for information about the redevelopment. Looking at the design they look like work from the 1990’s. My advice is to contact the archivist at Hammersmith and Fulham Council. Her name is Annaig.
Have you looked at the Booth Maps? They show that terrace as being ‘mixed’ with affluent and poor living close to each other.
Sorry I can’t help further
Hi Basil,
Thank you for your help it’s helped answer a lot of questions. My Donovan family moved from number 6 PGL to number 54. I have the family living in PGL from 1881 to 1911 according to the census. There’s a discrepancy in 1901 as both Mary and James were born in Cork Ireland. The Southampton link did throw me for a while ! Really appreciate your help and knowledge.
Hi
It transpired that one of my great aunts, Lillian Emeline Martin was a teacher around the Fulham area I think. She was listed on the 1911 census as ?? LCC teacher! She was living at 18 aspenlea road With her mother & 2 of her siblings at the tine. Not sure which school she taught at if anyone knows her or this road please let me know. I know nothing about this part of the family.
Was she French. There was a French lady teaching at Heathfield house . She had 3 Siamese cats abd suffered from Asthma
Hi Irene.
Thanks for your reply, No my aunt LIllian Emmeline Martin was not french. She was born in Chelsea 1889 to Alfred born Leic & Catherine from high Barnet. I never knew anything about them until I started to carry on my cousin’s family history findings. Regards Trude
I think the French teacher was called Miss Matheson.
I remember Mrs Simkin she taught me to read at the age of ten ( I had missed do much school through ill health. ) she was lovely. Miss Jame’s and Mrs Lee had an accident whilst traveling around Europe. Miss James was then confined to a wheel Chair.
A couple of members were asking about memories of Heathfield House School. I have some more information from an ex pupil who started in 1944 and siblings who followed in the 50s! Please email me if you would like to be put in touch with her.
Claire. Chorrowicz@outlook.com.
Hi Claire,
I was one of the people who were asking about memories of Heathfield House school. I went there before going on to Grey Coat Hospital grammar school.
I remember Miss James, Mrs Lee ( she had a son who made a record that got into the chart, his group was called ‘leapt Lee’! ) and I think a teacher called ? Mrs Gitkins who taught the younger children.
I always remember the last day of term when Miss James bought us all a jam doughnut!!!!!
It was a very small school.
I must have been there in approximately 1965 or their abouts having moved from another primary school.
Would love to know your friends memories!
Many thanks
I remember Leapy Lee! He had a record called ‘Little Arrows’. It got to number 2.
Anyway, to contact my old family friend who started at Heathfield House in 1944, followed by her siblings and my sister – email Mrs Janet Wade on Janetwade4040@gmailcom.
Hello , my name is Roger Warner , my grandfather Anthony Albert Warner born around 1903 was told that he was a foundling and was brought up by the Dawson family in great totham Essex who used to advertise In The Fulham and Hammersmith for nurse care . He lived with the family who received payments for his care until around 1910 ..he them went to Maldon work house . Through Dna tests I have discovered my grandfathers family are the Dunlop’s of church farm Hendon .the family have been very helpful and believe his father is George Dunlop who had a history of secret family’s . I would dearly love to find out who my grandfather’s mother was . He tried for most of his life ( he died at 92 ) to find out who is real family were. If there is a chance that you have records that may help that would be very much appreciated . Kindest Regards Roger Warner ( it is believed the name Warner may well be completely made up ) we don’t know .
Hi Roger
I might have a theoretical lead for you about members of a Warner family who lived near the Dunlop’s but were themselves forced into a workhouse in Hendon around 1910 (same year payments stopped for your ancestor) Not really anything to do with Hammersmith and Fulham but if you are happy to be contacted via email I’ll send you what I found. Just bear in mind it is a bit of a leap and more of a possible lead than anything specific!
Hello , so sorry I missed your message , I would very much like to follow a potential lead ..it may well be that the Warner name was not “made up ” and has links to my grandfathers mother .my email address is Roger.warner123@btinternet.com
Thank you so much Roger
Hello , I am sorry I missed your reply , I am very interested to see what you have found ..please do send me an email . My email address is Roger.warner123@btinternet.com
Kindest regards and thank you Roger
Hi did you get my message ..thank you so much Roger .. my email address is Roger.warner123@btinternet.com
Hi
I’m doing some research on my family history and my Gt Granddad had a tannery in Fulham Palace Rd.
Thomas Henry Marshal Harness maker late 19th century early 20th century.
Would you have any history on this please?
Hello, I have posted here before, trying to find any history of Vanston Place, Waltham Green, that might links to my ancestry. I previously visited the LMA and discovered the name was proposed by Rev WE Batty of St John’s (which is still in Vanston Place) but with no other background.
I have recently discovered that there was a Vanston House at this location – so maybe the name Vanston Place was proposed for that reason. I’ve also found out that a William Charles Smith lived in this Vanston House around 1893.
Can you offer any other information about Vanston House that might help clarify where it’s name came from?
Regards,
Paul Vanston
So no-one knows anything about Vanston House, other than it was at 7 Vanston Place?
Paul,
I don’t have any specific information to help you but the renaming of three small streets under the amalgamated name of ‘Vanston Place’ must have been agreed by the local authority. In the 1870’s this would have been the ‘Fulham Vestry’ which was the predecessor of the Borough Council. The Archives at Hammersmith library hold the records of The Fulham Vestry and they will almost certainly allow you to visit and inspect the records from the year the name changed.
Thanks Basil. I’ve already searched the records at the London Metropolitan Archives but not heard of the Fulham Vestry before. Sounds like the Archives at Hammersmith Library are worth a shot then. Thanks for the hint.
The Vestry was akin to today’s Parish Councils but with more powers. My Great-grandfather represented Hurlingham Ward on the Vestry from the 1880’s but not as early as the 1870s. Much of the debate in his day was on how to make Fulham a better place and cope with the urbanisation as the fields were swallowed up with new housing estates. The poor state of repair of local roads were a regular point of debate (just like today!).
Given that it is common for roads to be named after local ‘worthies’ I wonder if there was a ‘Vanston’ involved as a member of the Vestry or perhaps he was local rich person who donated to St John’s. St John’s might have parish records which may shed some light on the situation. I can’t find the election results on-lone but again Hammersmith Archives will have them. I once found the results from the 1890’s but don’t recall where I found them!
Do you mean local government election results?
yes, that way you can see the names of the various candidates for each ward. Vanston Place was in ‘Walham Green’.
Good tip: thanks.
Dear Sir, After WW2 living in Stoneleigh we rec’d coal deliveries from ,I think, a coai merchant called Herbert J Wilkes and Sons. My father said that used to be Wilkes and Last or the other way around. In tracing back my family history i discovered that his grandfather Isaac Last was described as a carrier living in Chelsea in the 1860s and in the 1881 and 1891 Censuses as a coal carrier of Fulham, Can you throw any light on this to confirm my father’s memory ?
Hello, I was looking at letters from my family trying to understand what happened to them and found a letter sent to my great grandmother ( Margaret Elizabeth Crawford) married to a Moxon (second marriage) who lived in 73 Sterndale Road, Brook Green, London W in 1909.
Do you have any information on the name of his husband (Mr Moxon) and with whom did they live, I believe she had a daughter called Clare Moxon.
Thank you in advance for any information you might have
Margaret first married John Payne in 1872. They had 2 daughters Mary (1874) and Hilda (1877)
John Payne died between 1877 – 1881.
After he died, Margaret became a housekeeper for James Moxon, Colliery Manager, in Pontefract Yorkshire, probably around 1880. James was a widower whose first wife died in mid- 1880 shortly after giving birth to a son. He was 18 years older than Margaret. They married in Pontefract in 1882 and later moved to London (Willesden Green). I don’t think they had children together but James did have a daughter from his first marriage called Clara who lived with them. So she was Margaret’s step daughter and is probably the “Clare” you are referring to.
James Moxon died in 1903
Margaret Elizabeth is listed as a widow, aged 56 on the 1911 census, still at 73 Sterndale Road. She died in 1929. Hope this helps!
Hi, I used to work for the Amalgamated Window Cleaning Company, based close to Eel Brook Common.
I think it was back in the late 60,s and the company was run by a family, can’t recall their name.
I would appreciate any recollections of the company and what happened to it?
Kind regards
John Eavis
My father in law was the manager of the company, they were the Wards and when their sons took over they sold up as the land in Fulham was a pretty penny. It is now a Mews with houses.
Thanks for getting back to me Len.
Yes the yard and offices were in a prime spot for development and as you mentioned they would have made a big profit.
Yes John i worked there my wife worked there and my sister in law aswell in the 60s 👍
Hi, I too went to Heathfield House school in Munster road Fulham and would also like more information on it. It was a very small school In a large house with a small ‘yard’ which was our playground. The Headmistress at the time was Miss James, a lady in a wheelchair, and there was Mrs Lee too who was ? Deputy head/admin lady.
I left there in 1968
Hi, I am looking for any information on the Realistic Travels photo works in Westwick Gardens. It operated from around 1918 to the1930s. Thank you Paul
If you Google Charles Hilton De Witt Girdwood you will find out a lot more about the Realistic Travels company. He was an “official” WW1 photographer, although it is accepted that many of the photos were staged for propaganda purposes. The British Library holds a rare collection of these photographs. Hope this helps!
Thank you. I am already aware of his activities but I was hoping that someone may remember or know something about the actual photo works.
I am working on trying to change perceptions, as history has been rather too critical of his activities.
Hi, does anyone have info on the death of John Wilbraham Webb in Hammersmith, possibly 1961? He was my great grandfather who lost contact with his family in 1940’s
Thank you
If you haven’t already done so, you might want to get a copy of the death certificate for the suspected death in 1961. That might contain some other helpful clues (such as who reported the death etc) and it might help to rule in (or out) any likelihood that this was him. You can order online via the General Register Office http://www.gro.gov.uk
Around 50 years ago I lived for a short time in a small house which was in a complex of what had been artists studios and homes. I cannot remember the address but it backed on to a stand at the football stadium. A tremendous racket when there was a game on! I wondered if you had a photograph I could show my husband. I don’t need a hard copy. Just something I could show him. Thank you. Pamela Brown
Was the complex in Fulham Road near Chelsea Football Stadium?
You were probably living in what is now called ‘Chelsea studios’ I managed one of the units in the late 1960s and remember that nearly all the residents were in showbiz or artists. My tenants included a young man who was part of the cast for the musical ‘Hair’.
The buildings back on to Chelsea’s home ground. – Stamford Bridge.
The buildings are now modernised and according to google are up market apartments. If you google ‘Chelsea studios’ you will find photographs though those I found are all modern. Good luck with finding some older ones.
I wonder if anyone has any information on my
Gt Gt Grandparents Thomas Drury or where he lived. Him and family lived 67 Onslow Dwellings on the 1881,1891,1901,1901 Census and in 1891 his son my Gt Grandfather lived at 65 Onslow Dwellings and in the 1901 census he had moved to 16 Upcerne Road.
Many Thanks
Hi, I seem to remember my mother had a friend May Drury who lived in the Lots Road area. This would be in the late 1950s to mid 60s. As Uverdale Road is also in this area, I wonder if it is the same family.
Hi, thank you for that. At the moment I have not come across May Drury or that address but I will now look out for her.
If I come across her or that address I will let you know.
Thank you again.
Researching the death of a thomas arthur fisher who was in wormwood scrubs awaiting a place in a borstal institution when he died on the 18/12/49 in hammersmith hospital who was sentenced in middlesbrough his mothers name is mrs t fisher father not been told had left the family and went to bradford wereabouts unknown just want to find any more about him or his family thanks
I am very interested in the practical operation of the Kelmscott Press ( Sussex House Upper Mall, Hammersmith) and the Doves Press ( Hammersmith Terrace). Sheets of Books printed at both these Presses were printed on dampened Handmade Paper. My question relates to the supply of running Mains Water to both these locations. Circa 1896/ 1900 would a mains water supply have been readily available to these Hammersmith locations? I would be most grateful for any help you could give me. I cannot receive Email/ but my Phone No. is 0207 380 0554/ afternoons best/ and my address is:- Paul Donoghue, 16 Wolcot House, Aldenham Street, London NW1 1PP.
hi liz re search tips britishnewpaper library
a free seach for your ivy elizabeth martin
gives
Preferred Prison to Borstal
… Chairman, London Sessions yesterday, when order ing Ivy Elizabeth Martin (19). laundress, to be detained in a Borstal Institution for a period not exceeding three years. Detective Weightman said that Martin was first convicted at the age of 10. To try and …
Published: Thursday 09 August 1928
Newspaper: Western Daily Press
County: Bristol, England
Type: Article | Words: 122 | Page: 5 | Tags: none
Having set filters for 1928 august and western daily press a search for >>>convicted at the age of 10<<>>>
.. in a Borstal Institution for a period not exceeding three years. Detective Weightman said that Martin was first convicted at the age of 10. To try and get her good company she \vas placed in a church choir, but the first Sunday she was there she stole …
so you can with luck edge forward
chris
My grandfather Henry Goulden was the Mortuary Keeper in Fulham until his death in 1924. He lived at Branksea Street which was near to the mortuary in Munster Road. His death certificate gives his address as Branksea Street but indicates that he died at 103 St Dunstan’s Road. From Street View it is possible to see 101 St Dunstan’s Road is the last house at the junction of Margravine Road immediately before Charing Cross Hospital.
I assumed he may have died at the house of a relation, but the address appears to be on the site of the present Charing Cross Hospital. Having studied an old map I think he may have died in what used to be the Fulham and Hammersmith Workhouse and Infirmary. Do you think that my assumption is correct?
Hi
Yes that’s correct my mothers address where born was no 103 and at first thought that the houses were knocked down but no as you say it was the old Fulham workhouse and infirmary.
They kept lots of records my mothers were found so your Grandfathers may well have survived. There is an expert who was writing a book on the Hospital and has lots of info.
Brian
Brian Thank you. It was something that had been puzzling me for a while but it is nice to have confirmation. I suppose there isn’t a lot of room on a death certificate to write the complete address. Regards Andrew
Hello there,
My friend has a historical indenture between that is about a house that is located between Cameron road and balmoral road. Right around the corner of Starch green road and its holyrood villas.
The paper is from 1877. we are curious about the houses.
Kind regards,
Susanne
Hello.
I’m curious about The Premier Inn on King Street, where we stayed for the King’s coronation recently. Does anyone have any information as to what the building used to be? I’ve found out that it was prerviously called the Vencourt Hotel, also the building was called Vencourt house?
There’s also the Black bull pub adjacent to the building, which is currently empty. There’s also the bull mounted on a plinth to the front of the pub, I believe is a listed building? Any information appreciated.
Vencourt house, was one of the many buildings that the council had in the Borough. It was where poll tax was administered from.
The Black bull statueoriginally created in the early 19thcentury stood outside the Black Bull pub in Holborn, and is mentioned in Martin Chuzzlewit by Dickens. When the pub was demolished it came to Hammersmith and stood outside the offfices of Bull and Bull, solicitors, . Sir William Bull was a well known M>P> fpr Hammersmith. On the closure of that firm, it stood outside the Ravenscourt ares and hence the Black Bull pub. I believe Hammersmith archives has many papers from his time as M.P.
Have asked for info before but thought there might be more people that have joined.I am looking for any info on Ivy Elizabeth Martin, born 1909 in Bristol.She was the first child of my grandmother from her first marriage.Her father was Albert Martin who was born and lived with his family in Fulham.For some reason Ivy left Bristol and moved to Fulham.I think to live with Alberts family. There was no other mention of her on my grandmothers side but in 1921 she was listed as living in Chiswick,Old Brentford,Middlesex I know a bit more about her until 1939 but then get stuck,
Any help would be appreciated to solve this family mystery. liz Belringer
Hi Liz
I’m sure you already know about her colourful history in the late 1920s and early 1930s. If you haven’t seen them already you would probably be very interested in the old newspaper articles you can access online via British Newspaper Archives. These contain other details about her family relationships which might be new to you? While I can’t guarantee it will turn up anything new I might be able to help by trying some additional searches. If you would like me to contact you directly let me know the best way. Good luck with solving your mystery!
Thanks for quick reply. iYes, I did know something of her murky past but haven’t seen anything about family relationships in the family being in the newspapers. The last thing I knew about her was she was on 1939 register as Ivy Turner living in Fulham. I don’t know anymore,? when died, any children etc.
This is a big skeleton in my families cupboard. Nobody knew my grandmother had married and had a child .she just appears on the census as Ellen Abbot Hopkins. She went on to have 7 children by my grandfather. then found a marri age certificate from ?1946 that shows them getting married, which means my mother and her siblings were illegitimate !
lizzieb55@hotmail.com
glimmmerglassjen
Could you let me have details of how to access British newspaper archives as i don’t know how to.Thanks.
Hi Liz
Yes – the website is https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
You will need a subscription but probably worth it for you for as there are some interesting articles about your relative.
re british newpaper library subscription
you can do a search for free and you get a snippit about 30 words for free if you then use filters to narrow down to date and newpaper and then change search to the last few word of the free snippit with luck you will get the next 30 words
however the new search terms need to be sometng that isnt in the repeateed earlier so aviod common terms/ the .and etc
Hi Liz
I sent you an email- hopefully it gives you some more leads and information. Good luck with your research!
My grandfather was born in 1883 at 15 Dimsdale Road Fulham. The road seems not to exist anymore. Is it possible to find a map or photo of this road/ location?
It was in Lillie Road opposite Normand Park parallel with Rylston Road.
If you go to LSE Charles Booth Poverty Map you can see where Dimsdale Road was in 1898. There is a slider that allows you to move between the 1898 map and a modern map so you can see where it was and what is there now. The buildings were knocked down to make way for an estate – I think late 1950’s/early 1960’s. As someone already mentioned below it was off Lillie Road, parallel with Rylston. The website is https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map
Thank you both for the information. The Poverty map and notebooks are fascinating.
Was there a greengrocers shop in Lillie Road called Lizzie Musgrave and where was it
There was a greengrocers on the corner of Humbolt Road and Lillie Road in the late 50s/ early 60s
There was a greengrocers on the corner of Humbolt Road and Lillie Road in the late 50s/early 60s
Opposite Normand Park i think
Thank you Lenny.
She had a veg. stall in North End Road
This is a update.
Hello
I wonder if you might be able to help me. I wonder if you have any details on a Dairy in Parsons Green near to Ackmar Road. I think my relatives may have had something to do with it. They lived at 5 Ackmar Road in 1911 and the names I have are Edward or Samuel Seaton born in 1869.
Thanks
My Great grandfather Joseph Edward NEWPORT married his second wife at the “District Church of Trinity, Shepherds Bush” (which would have been a Protestant church) in 1878. Would that be St Stephens or some other church?
I checked Ancestry and although Joseph was living in Shepherds Bush the wedding actually took place at Trinity Church in Marylebone.
Hi
I wondered if you might be able to help. My family were from Ackmar Road and they talk about a connection to a Dairy near by. The family name is Seaton.
Thank you Jackie Waller
My ancestor, Joseph Edward NEWPORT (1835-1908) is shown in the 1871 census at 64 Stowe Road, Shepherds bush with his wife and 4 sons. He was living at 21 Mayland Road, Shepherds Bush in Feb 1878 when his wife died there.
1. Am I correct in assuming that what was 21 Mayland Road is now 21 Coningham Road? If not, where would 21 Mayland Road be located today?
2. Is the current house at 21 Coningham Road the house that would have stood there in 1878?
3. Is the current house at 64 Stowe Road the house that would have stood there in 1871?
I believe that Coningham and Mayland Roads were two different ends of the one long road just known as Coningham Road today, with the names merged in the early 1880s. You can’t guarantee that house numbers would be the same and your best bet to identify the location of the properties you mentioned on both Coningham and Stowe Roads would be to contact the Borough archives. They are the most likely to have the old maps/title documents etc to help you. https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/libraries/local-studies-and-archives
Mayland Road numbers 1 to 151 and 2 to 170, Swankley Villas, Swankley Terrace, and Coningham Villas were renamed Coningham Road sometime after 1865 when the name was officially approved. On that basis number 21 would be the same building. Incidentally Charles Coningham Tubbs owned land in the area including 1 to 16 Coningham Road. Around 1865 he changed his name to Charles Coningham Coningham. The Coningham Arms pub on the corner of Uxbridge Road and Percy Road was probably built sometime between 1861 and 1871.
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone could help me find out what era the white buildings on Comeragh Road were built. I think they are Georgian but would like to get a more precise date range (within a decade). Thank you for this great website and any help that may or may not come my way.
Hi John,
The development of Comeragh Rd and the adjacent roads in ‘the grid’ were erected in the last quarter of the 19th century by developers William Gibbs and John Flew.
Prior to this development the area was principally market gardens. You can view an early map from 1872 by following this link: https://london1872.com/stanford42.htm#image
Regards,
Calum
Hi
You will find this conservation booklet on the Borough website helpful – it references the architecture of Comeragh Road and the history of that area https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/sites/default/files/section_attachments/barons_court_1_10_tcm21-63693.pdf
Thanks so much for your helpful reply, I really appreciate it. Have a great day.
I am researching a bus and coach bodybuilder by the name of Willmotts Motors Limited who were initially based in Shepherds Bush, but by 1938 had an address of 50 Ravenscourt Gardens, Hammersmith. Any information would be most appreciated, thank you.
Hi,
I would contact The Bus Archive at Walsall
They have a massive amount of bus/coach operators and manufacturers information from very early days as well as thousands of vintage photos.
Email. hello@busarchive.org.uk
Tel 01922 629358
Viewing at the Droitwich archives is by appointment
Suggest you type in on Google The bus archive and check out site and the enquiries should be sent to the email address shown at Walsall
May be slim chance but you never know as their records and photo collections are huge.
Good luck
Brian
Thanks for your suggestion Brian,
As it happens I am a regular visitor to the Bus Archive and think I have exhausted all the likely links there. This is why I thought that I would try something different and hit on the idea of posting on this website.
Anyway, once again, thanks for the suggestion.
Regards, Peter
sorry, i left the incorrect email address, i have entered the correct one below
Hello. We are researching our local Mill Owners in Cragg Vale, West Yorkshire. One of the mill owners’ niece, went to St Marys Maternity Hospital, Kings Road, Fulham and had a child named Enid Maud. Enid went on to live at St Marys Priory, St Annes road, Stamford Hill, Tottenham but we cannot find her on the 1921 census on FMP. Are you able to give us any information about St Marys Maternity Hospital and St Marys Priory to fill in our research please? Kind regards, Cragg Vale Local History Group
Hello, I am seeking any information available regarding 17 Ranelagh Avenue, Hurlingham. My mother was born there in April 1931.
I am doing some family research and would very much appreciate any help in this regard.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Hello, I have just traced my great grandmother to 83 Rayleigh road, Hammersmith in the 1921 census, I can’t find that road in current maps, can you tell me anything about the area please?
It was renamed Lakeside Road
Try to download the application” old maps online”. It may help you find this road
Rayleigh road is now lakeside road. I’d be very interested in your grandparents’ surname. My great grandparents and aunts/uncles lived in many houses on that road
Her name was Clara Cooper, she lived at number 83 with her two daughters.
Thanks for satisfying my curiosity. Not a relative of mine as far as I’m aware but no doubt would’ve known my ancestors. My family lived there from about 1908 until 1983! We occupied several houses in the street.
My gt,gt aunt Rebecca Bustard/ Mueller lived at number 23 Raleigh Road in 1907. Been searching for more information about her.
My great grandad lived in Hammersmith and Fulham in the late 1800s and early 1900 with his wife Mary Drake and children including my grandma Lillian Drake born 1899. He was a butcher and I wondered if you had any info on where he might have had his butchers shop?? Also any info on his children. Thanks
In 1891 Francis and Mary are living at 129 Askew Road Hammersmith (which was a butcher’s shop) and in 1901 the family is living at 117 Bishops Road, Fulham (which was also a butcher’s shop). By 1911 they had moved further south to Morden, Surrey, with Francis working as a cow man on a farm.
Francis and Mary had 11 children but 3 died. The surviving children were:
Mary Jane born 11/1/1891
Florence born 22/1/1893
Francis born 9/5/1896
William born 24/12/1897
Lillian born 2/4/1899
George born 1903
Christiff born 31/8/1904
Olive born 1907.
Thank you for that information that’s so helpful. I don’t suppose you have any pictures of the streets back then. I’ve visited the streets and can see for all locations they have changed askew is a Vietnam restaurant, Bishop Street just looks like a house and then Morden is a school. It appears they also lives in Middlesex where one of the children died less than a month old, I can see the death certificate but not the inquest. They obviously moved around a bit. I am curious as why they moved to London but may never know this. Thank you again
I’m interested in your family now as my great grandfather was a butcher. In 1894 he was in the west London gazette having let off fireworks setting light to a lady’s skirt! However he was noted as a butcher’s assistant living in askew road. I now think he could quite easily have been employed by your family so it’s good to have an address of the actual shop.
I thought I’d replied to this ealier but can’t see my post. Sorry if I appear to be repeating myself. The reponse glimmerglassjen gave you piqued my interest because my great grandfather and his sons were butchers. Gt grandfather had a small entry in the West London Gazette (for playing with fireworks accidentally setting a woman’s skirt on fire) in 1894, living in Askew Road, aged 17 as a butcher’s assistant. I knew he wasn’t with his parents at this point so it could be that he was the assistant in your great grandfather’s shop!
There is more confirming information for you Nicole as one of the children of the family, Francis Drake Jnr born 1896 went on to become a firework manufacturer (as listed on 1911 census) Might have been inspired by your great grandfather!
Hello,
Looking into the workplace of my great-grandmother.
She was employed at 1 Sussex Grove, Fulham in 1931 as a domestic servant. I can’t find any detail on this address and wondered if there were any records or photographs around.
I am carrying out some research on the murder of Jillian Smith in 1965 (November 22nd) and wondered if you have any details in your records?
I would be grateful for any information you may be able to supply.
Yours Faithfully
Peter Comley
You probably have it already but there is a file in the National Archives (you can access details on their website, noting they use spelling Gillian Stuart Smith) Also British Newspaper Archives is a good resource for reporting info from the time.
I have 3 cards (postcard size) dated 25 and 26 May 1941 from Hammersmith Civil Defence Organisation; Recognition of Fire-Fighter-Resident. I wondered if they would be of interest to anyone or if they are commonplace?
Text reads:
Surname / Natl. Reg. Letters and Nos. / Christian Names / Mr. Mrs. or Miss? / Date of Birth / Nationality / Address /
I hereby undertake to give at least forty-eight hours duty in each month as a fire-watcher in the neighborhood of my home.
Cross out (a) or (b)
(a) I already have a Helmet of Government pattern
(b) I acknowledge receipt of a Civilian Protective Helmet which I will return if I get a Helmet from any other source.
Date / Signature
Note: This limited undertaking entitles the signatory, if injured, to compensation on more favourable terms than those which apply to an ordinary civilian (though not so favourable as tho provided for the signatory of the full undertaking on Form CW302)
I recommend recognition.
Helmet size… Post Area… Signature of Post Warden.
CW.305 5000 10/4/41. Hammersmith Civil Defence Organisation; Recognition of Fire-Fighter-Resident.
Hello, my brother Liam Connell was a Cup winner for the Martians Swimming Club at Fulham Baths, he held the Silver Cups for a year and had his name engraved on them, I wonder if these cups are displayed anywhere in Fulham
Also he was a child actor and was in the West End production of Oliver, there was a photo in the Fulham Chronicle in the 1960s I wonder if you have a copy.
Yours faithfully
Mrs Rita Wales (Liam Connell’s sister)
The Fulham Chronicle is available from the British Newspaper archives. Inde is easy to use. hard copy would be at Hammersmith Archives dept.
I live at Muscal house on Margravine road. Please someone know when it was built? What was here before? If possible , is there any photos or pictures? Thank you
Fatima, there is a good picture in the Facebook group “Back Track Fulham”…if you search for “Margravine Road” there is a great picture (from Len Rutter)from the 1960’s, showing the scrap metal yard that was there and a corresponding recent picture showing Muscal House in the background
Hi there,
I’m looking for any information on the photography shop called “Camera Cat” in Dawes road. They did my wedding photos in 1973.
They did my wedding photographs in 1980. Yes, they were based in Dawes Road, Fulham.
The Camera cat did a lot of wedding photograohs around the 1970s and 80’s. They were normally published in the Fulham Chronicle each week, so if you want a picture of the Bride and groom checkout the British Newspaper libray under Fulham Chronicle and Camera Cat for the appropriate date.
I am looking for old photos of Chelmsford Street w6 50s onwards and Church path opposite Clem Attlee estate
Church path. I have ten year old exterior photos of St. Thomas of Canterbury RC church, Rylston Road, which is opposite Clem Attlee. Don’t know if these will be of help. I used to walk past St. Thomas in the 50’s and it looked very much the same.
I found the address 12H Westwick Gardens, West Kensington on a piece of a letter in a book that belonged to my father. The book is the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam. The letter must date from the 1950s or earlier. Does anyone know who might have lived at that address during this time?
Thanks
Angie Greenwood
Hi Angie
The electoral registers for Hammersmith can be viewed online at ancestry.co.uk with a subscription. I checked 1950-1955 and the address is never listed, the numbers jump from 10-16 or 6-16. 1956-1959 are not online. In 1960 there are eligible voters at 12 surname Penn and 12A surname Best but there isn’t a 12H.
Dawn
Dear Dawn
I wonder if I read the number wrongly and what I thought was 12H was in fact 12#? However the names of those listed in 1960 mean nothing but thanks for checking for me. What I useful website this is. Living at the other end of the country I doubt that I shall have occasion to use it again but glad to have discovered it.
All best Angie Greenwood
Hi Angie
The apartments were built around 1954. As Dawn mentioned, there is no 12H, only 12A. I have found some records for 12A that might be of interest but it may be better to contact you outside of the forum if you have an email address to save an overly long post here?
Thanks
I am interested. Try me direct on angela.greenwood5@btinternet.com
Angie
Thanks. Yes I am interested.
Angie
Thanks Angie – sent you an email today. Hope it helps!
I am interested in the history of the studio at 5 Margravine Gardens from the time when it was built in 1887/8 by Harris & Wardrop.
Might there be any records for whom it was built/originally sold? There is evidence that the artist John Dickson Batten (1860-1932) owned the studio in the period 1900-1913 (possibly longer).
I am also interested to know if there are any records relating to artists in that area around that time? Any help would be appreciated. Regards
I would like to locate a history teacher Catherine Ross at Hurlingham school for girls in the 1970s. I wish to thank her. She was educated at Edinburgh University and used to live in Putney. She taught during the time Molly Hattersly was the head mistress. Thank you
Hi there, my ancestors, John & Annie McLeod lived at 141 Hammersmith Road in the period between about 1905 and 1915, at which time I believe it was a three storey townhouse. It was re-developed shortly after 1980 into the office block that is now located at 137-143 Hammersmith Road.
I would love to see any pictures of the house prior to its demolition, or any other information about the house or its occupants pre WW1.
Many thanks in advance for any information.
Nick
I am looking for my family members who were living in Rosaville Road between 1946 – 1963 at no 26 and 59 i have names of
Alice Acfield Phyllis Pryce Violet Radford and James a Parker Fulham SW6
Many Thanks. 8
Dear friends, bit of a longshot, but please may I ask: where do you think a Mary Jane Lang who died Jan 1923, of Hurlingham Gdns Fulham, might have been buried? I believe All Saints churchyard was full by then. Grateful thanks, Tony
Fulham Cemetery, or possibly Brompton Cemetery. Or even Kensal Green Cemetery. Churchyard burials in London ceased around 1850.
My great grandfather was a landlord at The Conningham Arms, Uxbridge Road in the 50s. William Molony was his name. Would love any information, pictures, stories etc
I am trying to find an old photo of 32 Peterborough road, Fulham before it was demolished to become a telephone exchange.
My late Grandmother Elizabeth Marguerite Good lived there with her Grandparents. It would be lovely to see an old photograph of the house she once lived in.
Trying to find the location of an execution that took place in Fulham in September 1707. William Elby was hung for the murder after breaking into the home of James Barry and killing his gardener in the process. The hanging would have taken place outside the Barry home but I have no info as to where this was.
Do you have details from the court procedings? It is listed on Find My Past as 1707 Middx and London Old Baily Court Records 1674-1913, but I haven’t any credits to use at the moment to look further. Also do you have anybackground on James Barry?
Find My Past has William Elby 1707 Middx London Old Bailey Court Records 1674-1913, but I haven’t any credits to be able to look up further. There is also a James Barry burial 1725 Fulham under Middx Monumental Inscriptions and Greater London Burial Index 1725. I wonder what you know about James Barry. Perhaps you know all this anyway. A fascinating piece of history.
If you go to the website Old Bailey online and search the Ordinary’s Accounts you will find a detailed account which might help with your query.
I looked at the Old Bailey online site and found it easily. There is quite a lot about this incident that you, Richard, will find fascinating, but you might have done all this already! Execution Dock in Fulham is mentioned but not where it was. It also mentioned that James Barry was the rector of Fulham church, but I might have not understood this properly as the language is a bit challenging.
Keep us posted Richard.
Hi Richard, the only Execution Dock I could find was in Wapping and apparently used by Admiralty Courts for crimes connected to seafarers. I am wondering if you have found out any more on this event.
Hi, my grandfather William Molony was a landlord at the Conningham Arms and I’m presently researching my family tree and would like any information or pics relating to the 1940s – 1950s
Hi Joanne I wrote this article for the FHHS: https://fhhs.wordpress.com/2021/07/08/charles-coningham-tubbs-and-the-coningham-arms-pub/
Also early photos of the pub can be found on line.
I am attempting to piece together an event at Mulgrave House on 30 July 1855 and repeated at the Ranelagh House on 8 Aug 1855. The event was a demonstration of a war projectile by Captain Disney. Captian Disney’s first name is believed to be Henry, but that has not been confirmed. I’m interested to discover any information concerning the event. I have read the various newspaper accounts which have provided some good information but not enough information. Lord Ranelagh, 7th Viscount, and Arthur WElesley, 2nd Duke of Wellington were both in attendance for the second event. Others mention are Mr. Norton, Mr. French, Dr. Richardson, and Mr. Scott (who I am thinking is a reference to Wentworth Scott, an Oxford University chemist, and inventor.
The event will be included in my upcoming book about the early inventions of incendiary devices for use in warfare.
Any assistance or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Charles Webster
Dear Charles
You may already have this information but Captain Disney may be Henry Napier Disney, real name Arthur Battersby (1808 – 1861). One of the newspaper accounts of Captain Disney’s work with projectiles mentions he only has one-arm. There are other newspaper reports about a Captain Henry Napier Disney with one-arm who married a Sarah Strovin bigamously in 1837 (while already married to an Ann Mucklestone). At the bigamy trial he is reported as having worked for the Queen of Spain and as holding high rank in the Spanish army. He was sentenced to 7 years transportation and sent to Australia in 1837. He obtained a ticket of leave in 1842, has a business in Australia that went bankrupt and returned to the UK afterwards. When he died (in London) in 1861 Australian newspapers carried the death notice. If this happens to be new I hope it might be a helpful lead!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you, a thousand times thank you!! This information is absolutely new to me and I can’t thank you enough. I’m so excited. This type of information puts meat on the bones of Disney’s story. Would you mind if I asked for the sources so I can include them in my endnotes and see if there is anything else included to link my other subjects in the UK?
Feret Fulham Old and New has detals of Mulgrave house, but doesnt seem to record this incident. The house became part of the Hurlingham club, and their archivist may have some information. Were the shells for the grenades perhaps made by Fulham pottery?
Thank you for that bit of advice. The Fulham Pottery question is interesting to me. Many newspaper articles describe his grenades as being glass objects, so think that would eliminate Fulham Pottery. But I want to keep it in the back of my head considering the proximity. Was there a glass factory in Fulham? I will reach out to the archivist at the Hurlingham Club. Thank you for your assistance and advice.
Check Notes and queries index ans also Gentlemans magazine they were about at hs time i believe
Hi Charles – I am so happy that this was helpful! I would be more than happy to provide you with all the sources but there are quite a lot (and also more information about Captain Disney that I think you would find fascinating). I think it might be a bit too much for the message box here. Is there a way I can contact you via email?
You are amazing!!! Thank you, a million times!! 🙂
cwebster4@gmail.com
I have sent you an email today! Great story!
Hi can someone help locate Ancill street fulham i lived there late 60s early 70s as a small child not sure if the street still exists
Maxine, If you ‘google’ Ancil Close the area will come up with a good map and street views. By the look of the properties they are post 1960’s construction and from memory that part of Fulham was redeveloped in the 1970s or 80s
looking at my old street atlas circa 1960
Ancil street runs from Grey
hound road to Lillie rd’
3 rds east of fulham palace rd
Everington is to its west and adneny to the east
the north end of Ancil at Greyhound rd would be opposite Lugan av.
chris
your xmas postie when is was a teenager circa 1957
looking at my old street atlas circa 1960
Ancil street runs from Greyhound road to Lillie rd’
3 rds east of Fulham Palace rd.
Everington is to its west and Adneny to the east
the north End of Ancil at Greyhound rd would be opposite Lugan Av.
chris
your xmas postie when is was a teenager
Hi, I have today been posting about this area, that was re-developed in the 1960’s/ early 70’s, in our Facebook group “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”. Roads that included Ancill Street, Bayonne Road, Adeney Road and Garvan Road have all now gone, but have posted some old maps and photographs that might be of interest?
Hi, I just wondered if Lillie Mansions, Tilton Street, London was a de-mob Centre in 1945, if there was such a thing ?.
My relative was on the electoral role for that year but not with his wife. They were married in 1939 and together on the electoral role for 1946. Many thanks. Jay.
Hi. I noticed someone called Caroline Carson was asking about Heathfield House Preparatory School in 1960. My brother and I both went there and my brother was certainly there in 1960
Does anyone know what was on the site of the old St Paul’s Boys school (now a college)? I have seen old maps but I can’t decipher all the text.
If you have a look at the LSE Charles Booth Poverty Map website https://booth.lse.ac.uk/ you can scan between the modern day map and the old Booth map. To me it looks like the current St Paul’s School is on a site that used to be the West Middlesex Water Company. Hope this helps!
I have a certificate for The College of Preceptors, lower forms examination dated Christmas 1924. It is for mt father in law, Robert Gerald Peel aged 13 and the index number is 1403. He passed eight subjects and the certificate is signed by the Secretary, G Chalmers. I am hoping you may be able to shed some light on this school, please. Many thanks in anticipation of a reply. Kind regards
Carolyn Peel
Hello and thanks for the opportunity .
In 1851, one of my ancestors was :-
Christian Samuel BRANCH, living at 136 BLACK’S Road, Hammersmith.
He was a Stage Carriage Proprietor.
Later moving to 183, NAPIER COTTAGES, IN GEORGE STREET.
Any information would be appreciated .
There must have been some Horse Stables associated in the area.
thanks
Eric Fry
Hi. I’m trying to find photos of an old fish and chip shop 24 north end road in Fulham in the 50/60’s possibly called Wilsons but not too sure do you have any in archive please
I’m looking for informaiton about two builders in Fulham in the mid- to late- nineteenth century. Their names are Hart and Coomer
we are not a family history society. If you wish to try again by providing a little more information please do , but by it self and without given some direction, just putting in a name means nothing realy
I looking about my family the chesson my step dad is a chesson but he did not take about he family my dad is a brigit
Please edit and correct this request. thanks
Hi,
I wonder if anyone has knowledge of the churches in the area?
My Uncle Stanley Harold Short, was killed during WWII on 7/2/44. Details passed down through the family are that there is a plaque containing details relating to him over the exit door of All Saints Church, Fulham.
Does anyone know this church, and if the plaque is still there? If anyone has any knowledge or details relating to the church or the plaque, they would be very much appreciated.
Many thanks
Trudie (Short)
The church has a website which does reference a monument to members of the parish who died in the war. The website also has a Contact Us option and I’m sure if you contacted them directly they would be able to confirm and perhaps send you a photograph? The website is:
http://www.allsaints-fulham.org.uk
All Saints is a large Church next to Putney Bridge and is the flourishing Parish Church of Fulham.
If you google ‘All saints church Fulham’ it will come up immediately. Stay on the google page and click on ‘images’. Then scroll down quite a long way and you will find a picture of a blue screen with gold lettering showing the names of those parishioners who either died or who went missing in WW2. The name short is clearly visible.
Hi Basil, Many thanks for coming back to me with the information. I have found the image on the Google search. It is lovely to see Stan’s name. My family had also mentioned that our Nana (Stan’s Mum) had given some sort of flag or pennant to the church, in memory of Stan, that used to be displayed. A later memory was that the flag/pennant had somehow been mislaid, during a refurbishment of the church many years ago. Once again, thank you for reading my earlier post, and for taking the time to provide the details. Kind regards, Trudie
Hello, I’m a TV researcher that is working on a series for UKTV and I’m looking to find people with connections to Shepherds Bush station who themselves may have taken shelter in the station tunnels during the blitz or perhaps have relatives that did so.
Failing that, I’d love to have a look at any records from this era that might inform the story I’m working on.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards,
Aydan Banks
Hi Aydan
My family were living in Shepherd’s Bush during WW2 but I’m afraid that they didn’t have any connection to the tube station. To my knowledge not many local people actually used the station as a shelter. In fact there were four large shelters on Shepherd’s Bush Green and a further shelter at Wormholt Park.
Many of the roads north of the Uxbridge Road had communal shelters built in the roads and some houses had smaller shelters in their back yards (I have photos I can share with you). I am a local historian who researches and writes about Shepherd’s Bush and you might find the following two blogs interesting:
I would be happy to correspond further.
Peter
Hello. Please can anyone tell me where I can find records for St James Diocesan Home for penitant women, 484 Fulham Palace Road, Fulham.
My grandmother was there in 1921.
Many thanks for any help.
Angela Greaves
Hi Angela, there is an old topic here https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=391315.0 but records seem elusive. Looks like the usual places such as LMA have been tried without success
Hve you checked Lambeth Palce archives catalogue. One of their entries reads St. James’ Home for Female Inebriates; fl. 1876-1893; sisterhood. Dont know location of this institution.
Hi, Many thanks for your help. I contacted Lambeth Palace Archives a year ago and they did have some records for this institution, but unfortunately not what I was looking for. Interestingly, the record you have come up with (my grandmother was sent there for theft in 1921) was not included in the info they gave me. I have also tried various other Archives in London. I must admit I find those online catalogues dificult to use, and it’s too far for me to travel to the Archives on spec. Thanks again.
Hi my names Liz,I got you post from a relative of mine and I can help you.
Thanks anything at all would help
Can someone help me please, I’m looking for my biological father. He was born around 1960 -1973. He’s from London and lived in Hammersmith around my conception. (I was born in Jan 1998).
His name is Graham Tompkins and his mother we believe was Irish. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Jade, I am doing a lot of family research in London and have joined Ancestry. I’ve had a quick search on that name and there are two Graham Tompkins born in 1960. Mothers maiden name is Haynes for one of them and Alcock for the other. At a hunch Haynes sounds more Irish but without more information it would be hard to search. Were your parents married? You may be able to get mothers maiden name that way. This would be important as it would at least give you the right person to trace. You could then look at electoral registers to find etc. Your fathers date of birth would also be useful or at least year of birth and any middle names. Just giving a name is a very small needle in a very large haystack I’m afraid. I’m happy to have another search if you have more info.
Hi I replied to you on the 28th,I’m not sure if it was you!but I can help you,I don’t know how to get in contact with you,I’ll keep looking to hear from you!
I can tell you he was born in st Heliers hospital in Carshalton Surrey and his date of birth is 1963.
Hi trying to find anything to do with a family tree on the moby family from fulham all iv got is a picture code rg11/72 folio page 11 caravan victoria yard garden row but when I type this in nothing appears on it my nan was called ivy and her mum amelia thanks for any help
Hi, are you referring to the 1881 census in Fulham? I can’t find Garden Row on a Victorian map. If you look at entries either side you will be able to see the adjacent streets. That would be useful. In the 1921 census there is a Samuel Moby born 1880 Kensington. Is he related. Also noticed the spelling Mobey, that might be helpful. More info on your family could be good.
One site says Garden Row was behind St John’s Church, Walham Green, where there was some open ground. It looks like the family lived in a caravan in a yard. Do you think it could be where John worked as a general dealer?
My 2GGF is on folio 30, page 7. Each year the numbers would change. He often travelled with the Hearn family. I understand they rented the land.
Help needed please with information about the May family, who lived at 36 Bridge Street Hammersmith, for many years from around 1891. Before this, they lived at 78 Nasmyth Street. My paternal grandmother, Dora Christina May, was born in 1887, to James John May (b 1851, a coal agent) and Louisa Grant (b1850?), and had at least 9 siblings, whose descendants I am trying to trace. I have made some progress with the families of Ernest May (1892-1966), and Leslie Claude May (1885-1948), and I have everything I need on Dora, but would now like help finding information about the remaining siblings: Frederick May b 1872; Arthur John May b 1873; Louisa May b 1875; Alice May b 1879; Henry May b 1890 and Frank May b 1894.
Thank you for your help.
I am seeking the names of any domestic servant agencies/registries in the Parsons Green area in around 1903. If a young girl of, say, fifteen years of age applied for a job through the agency, could she be offered a position as far away as East Sussex? How would a Fulham agency know about vacancies in the Home Counties?
Would be interested too. I have someone in orphanage in Brook Green who turns up as a chambermaid in an hotel in Clacton along with another older, born in Fulham female. No relation as far as I know.
There were quite a few servants/domestics agencies in the Hammersmith & Fulham area and surrounds in the early 1900s. For 1903 I found Mrs Dacre’s Agency in Putney, the Registry Office on Fulham Road and Holland Park Agency in Kensington. There were also a lot of ads placed directly in the West London Observer and Fulham Chronicle from households seeking servants at the time so it was possible that they may have come across an ad there. Hope this helps!
This was a common practice in them days especially for Orphans. Domestic service was a sought after position and there was plenty of work in big houses around the turn of the century. Job advertisements would be posted in the newspapers under Situations Vacant (a common practice before the internet). Newspapers were published in every town. Well to do families probably posted situations vacant in national newspapers or they would be charitable donors to workhouses and orphanages so have links for employment. Philanthropy was a big thing. People moved around a lot more than we realise especially with access to railways.
I am an avid genealogist & are currently attempting to find a picture of Mooltan Street, Fulham.
It was bombed during WW2, however, my ancestors lived & grew up on Mooltan Street, so would love to see a picture of possible.
Thankyou in advance.
Hi there, I have a photo of my mother and her sister standing in Mooltan Street. It was taken in about 1925. I would be happy to send you a copy. Lesley
Hi i have photos of the bombed area which is now Norman Park, i lived in Lintaine Grove, Mooltan and Silvio streets were flat end in 1944
Yes I would greatly appreciate you sending me a copy – my 3x great-grandparents Flora & John Parkin, alongside their 13 children lived at number 24 🙂
Have you tried the LB of Hammersmith and Fulham archives.
Can anyone help me find out a name of a gentleman who lived at 20 hayter house sundew ave W12 back in 1980 he was about 38 and drove a blackout black car, please as very urgent
Voting lists at Hammersmith libray may give name.
I can check the electoral registers on Thursday at the British Library if you can wait that long.
I am formerly Gillian Trim now married to Brian Denness
My mother Connie Trim formerly Roberts is daughter of Adelaide Kirk who fostered a Tommy Lee married Brenda they had 2 daughters Susan & Brenda they lived in Lewisham S London at one time then moved to Woking Surrey where they were last heard of. Tommy would now be in hes 80’s & would love to find out if he is still around.
16 Barlby Gardens
Please send any history for the house. Any records related to children, health, or ghosts?
Thank you,
Stacey
I am looking for anyone who went to Heathfield house prep school in Fulham in 1960 or sny information on the school.
I was at the school from 1957 to 1964. It was situated at the corner of Hestercombe Avenue and Munster Road and the headmistress was a Miss James.
Me and my four brothers went to Heath field house from 1950s to 1974. We were the Rycroft family. Yes miss James was the head. And there was miss Mathewson, miss girl in and Mrs job.
I’m looking for a old photo of my great grandmother’s sewing shop. The address was 3 Ackmar Road in Fulham. Her married name was Ellen Martin. She owned this property and lived upstairs to the shop. I don’t know what the shop was called. She died in 1968 so I’m guessing the shop would have been in operation early 1900’s onwards.
I have photos of the entrance to Ackmar road showing the name and of the school I am sure you can visit on google earth but happy to forward.
Local directories are helpful if you can get to see them. You might discover the name of the shop.
Can someone help me with my subscriptions to this blog? I have previously posted a query and was happily receiving an email whenever someone replied to it. However, now I’m receiving an email whenever anyone posts or replies to any item and I cannot work-out how to stop this – without unsubscribing completely. Any tips?
Hi, can anyone give me any information about a dairy that was in Pellant Road, Fulham in the 1920s/30s
There was a dairy at 16, Pellant road Wm Davies. Mr Davies may not have lived there as there are other Wm Davies listed in the area. There was also a dairy man …a William Joseph living at no. 28 Pellant Road
Thank you so much for this information which is very helpful. My father was born at 35 Pellant Road and I’m researching the family tree to try and trace his father.
All we know is that he was Welsh, his surname was Jones and he worked at the dairy.
On the 1939 census, dairyman, Joseph Williams (bn 1901) is living with a woman (probably his sister) called Maggie Williams (bn 1905) at 28 Pellant Road. It seems that she went on to marry someone with the surname Jones. Also Joseph Williams himself died in Wales. So with occupation, surname and place matches it might be helpful to do some more research into the Williams family to see if you can find your Jones connection there. Good luck!
Thank you so much for this information, very helpful!
If someone was living at 88 Rectory Road in 1880 and was a barmaid at the Inn,what inns would have been close by?
Rectory Road is now called St Dionis Road. This is in the Parsons Green area. There are a few old pubs close by, including the well known White Horse (or Sloaney Pony as it is better known!) I think some of the old pubs in the area have closed and disappeared so it would be hard to say for certain which inn it was without further information to go on. Hope this helps!
You could try the Kelly’s directory under victualler (meaning licenced to sell alcohol). One of my ancestors was in there under that category
The Jolly Brewers still stands in St Dionis Road at number 2, so it was probably there that she was a barmaid.
Hi there trying to find info on the Barnham family. Alfred, Catherine with2 daughters Kathleen and Doreen and 1 son also Alfred. They lived in Pier Terrace Wandsworth and kept horses in a yard underneath Wandsworth Bridge. They also lived in Jews Row for a time
I am making enquires about the fatal accident of Mercedes Mead age 34 on 6 th March 1951 in Sedlescombe Road Fulham SW6 or North End Road SW6.. presumably run over by a milk cart . Was she pronounced dead at the scene? How did the accident occur ? Was there an inquest ?
Hi Jennifer
I found a newspaper article which states that she was actually hit by a horse drawn coal dray. The accident occurred at the intersection of Lillie and Ongar Rd. She was taken by ambulance to Princess Beatrice Hospital, but sadly died 20 minutes after admission and before her husband could reach her side. There was an inquest into her death opened a few days afterwards- you may be able to find those records to see what the findings were. I hope this helps.
Thank you for this informati
The railways sidings by the side of the Lillie road, now the west kensigton estate was a coal yard, and had many coal wagons and coal merchant offices on the Norh end road. Charringtons, Busbys, Reckitt and coleman are af ew I remember in th 1950s
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My father was born in the South Western Maternity Home, 302 Fulham Palace Road on 18 November 1922.
Can you give me any background info on the hospital inc photos please. There was a topic comment: ‘ I have found a photograph of South Western Maternity Home, 302 Fulham Palace Road taken in the 1930’s amongst my grandmother’s effects’ However, frustratingly I cannot access the post for some reason. Thanks.
Greetings from South Australia. I am looking for more information about my late maternal Grandfather, Peter Clarn. Born circa 1888 Stanley Cottages died c.1961 Adelaide. He grew up in Prothero Road and he and his siblings went to Church and school on the corner of Rylstone St and Prothero Road. Michael his Father was a Plaisterer and Modeler and Peter and Brother Robert were apprenticed in the same Trade. I know a lot about my Grandfather when he was in Adelaide but not so much about his time in Fulham and Hammersmith. I appreciate any information that you can find. Thank you.
Hello Pam, so we don’t duplicate what you might already have done, have you found them on the censuses before their move to Australia? you don’t say when they emigrated though.
Dawn
Thank you Dawn. I haven’t found them on the Census but I know he was newly wed and the Bride was Edith who apparently had family in Adelaide. Peter’s Father was Michael Callan ( son of Jeremiah Cahahalne from Ireland but buried in Hammersmith? ) Michael and his wife Ellen named all children Clarn. Some of the children were Robert, Mary Anne, Ellen, Nora maybe, Peter, Daniel and I think Winifred.
Hi, I’m being trying to find information on my late grandfather, his name is,
Thomas Morris, born in Longford, ireland in 1906, is last known address was 154 Victoria Road, Acton, London, W3.
He lived there in 1968/1970.
He was in the merchant navy, but have been trying for years to find out what happened to him. The navy cannot find any records on him. He has two daughters, desperate to find what happened to their father father and where he is buried.
Also what was, 164 Victoria Road in 1967 to 1970? It would be very interesting to know.
I’d appreciate any information and thanks in advance.
In the 1960s there was a hair salon at 154 Victoria Road, Acton that was run by David and Dora Blasco (called David’s Salon). They had 3 salons in Acton. It does look like there was another partner involved called Thomas Scoulding. I don’t know if this is helpful at all but I wish you luck with your search.
I’m a Morris – family from Roscommon and Longford. I wonder if there is a connection?
I would be grateful for any information you may have about my great great grandfather, William Henry Gibbs, of the Gibbs and Flew partnership who we understand built the area of Fulham
Hello,
Trying to find out information on behalf of my elderly Aunts and Uncle , reference the Slatter family of Hammersmith. I have names of Henry Albert Slatter born in 1902, Father called same name, born in the late 1880’s, master greengrocer. Also have an address of Baium Street, The Grove. Cannot find any reference for it on line? Renamed perhaps? I found a number of Slatter’s on line a few years ago but would be most grateful if more information if available? So I can verify details, unfortunately Henry Albert Slatter passed away in 1936 in Hampshire and my elderly relatives don’t know very much of their family history.
Thanks in advance.
Claire T
Hello. My mother and her family were Slatters from Playfair St, Hammersmith.I believe the family had lived there from the late 1930s. I remember some names-Daisy, Lizzie, Irene, Stanley, Edith and Brenda .If some family info would be of interest, please let me know.
Hello Sue,
Thanks for your reply. To be honest, I am not sure if this is the same Slatter’s, quite possibly. When I was looking at Census information I did not have the full details of Henry Albert who married my grandmother Mary in 1930, eldest son was Harold born in 1931, my Aunt will be 90 next year, she was born in 1933. Can you confirm if your grandparents had the same name Henry Slatter and Elizabeth or Florence? Two names I remember from the Census records. Henry Albert died in 1936 in Hampshire. My uncle remembers going back to London with Mary and his sisters, three girls, visiting a big bricked house.
Would love to know a bit more about the family, since I am documenting down information for the family with a view of sharing it with my uncle and two surviving aunts.
Thank you
Claire Trimboy
Hello again Sue,
There may be a connection since the family where living in West Ham in 1911, there is an Elizabeth mentioned on the Census return form, aged 3 in 1911. Also, a large number of siblings. Emma, Charles, William and Lillian. My second cousin named Emma, so I wonder if this is the same family. Mother was also called Emma, and Henry born in 1902 was the eldest son, a bit confusing but not uncommon.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Take care
Claire Trimboy
Hello, I’m searching for information regarding the creation of Macfarlane Road in Shepherd’s Bush. Can anybody tell me what year it was named, houses built, etc. Thank you.
Hi Martyn it was officially named in 1876.
Can you tell me the history of how Musard Road got its name?
It was officially named in 1885. It may have been named after the 19th century Mussared family who were very prominent in Hammersmith.
Does anyone know the history of what is now the Courtyard mews in Gowan Avenue?
I am researching and writing about the BAUM family who in 1914 lived in King St, and prior to that in 1911 in Bridge Avenue. Can you share some info with me about Hammersmith at that time and over the next decade or so. Can you please include answers to the following questions … Was it a poor area, comparable to Whitechapel? Were there many Jews living there? Was it bombed in WW1? Thank you for your help
Hello
I wonder if anyone could provide me with any information regarding Orbain Road in Fulham
When was it built and why was the road called Orbain?
The terrace properties doesn’t look like the surrounding area so I presume it was built earlier than the nearby road’s
Thank you
It was officially named in 1887.
Hello, I am writing to ask if anyone has any information relating to the Red Hall Picture Palace in what is now Vanston Place. In my search my identify my biological father I have learned that he was the manager of this cinema in the 1960’s. I have searched on Google and see that it subsequently became a bingo hall in the mid/late 1960s and indeed I do recall there being a Mecca Bingo Hall. Any information/stories relating to this building would be gratefully received.
The Gaumont in Vanston Place, Walham Green was originally opened as the Red Hall Picture Palace on 18th December 1913 with Len Bethel in “David Copperfield”. It was designed by architect H. George Leslie and the entrance façade was dominated by a figure of Mercury perched on top of a windmill shaped tower. Seating was provided in stalls and circle levels.
It was taken over by Provincial Cinematograph Theatres (PCT) in 1921 and they in turn were taken over by Gaumont British Theatres from February 1929.
It retained the name Red Hall Picture Palace until 8th May 1950 when it was re-named Gaumont. The final film programme was screened on 8th December 1962, Jayne Mansfield in “It Happened in Athens” and Victor Mature in “Fury at Furnace Creek”.
The building was immediately converted into a Top Rank Bingo Hall, and was given a modern look on the exterior when sheets of metal cladding were placed over the original façade and the statue figure of Mercury had been removed. It was last operated as a Mecca Bingo Club and retains the original Beaux-Arts style decoration within the auditorium and the original façade still exists hidden from view behind the cladding.
Mecca Bingo closed in March 2007 and the building lay empty until December 2011 when demolition work began. The work was delayed several times, and was completed in April 2012. Housing was built on the site.
Some pictures can be seen on the “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered” group on Facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/483620285498541/posts/1357302444796983
Thank you Cary. That’s much appreciated.
I can’t add anything to Cary’s great comment on the history, but in the 1950s my sister and I went there a few times (we lived in Chelsea but often went to North End Road) I think we called it the ‘Red House’. Childish mistake maybe but that sticks in my mind. We also occasionally went to the ‘bug house’ cinema next to Fulham Broadway tube station, down a back alley. Rough but cheap.
Thank you Lesley
My grandmother and family lives in Humbolt mansions Lillie Road Fulham from about 192o until 1960. I find no record of the mansions,? Hope you can help.
On the corner of humbolt Road and Lillie Road, Demolished some years ago. Hope that helps.
There are some references to Humbolt Mansions and Humbolt Flats in Lillie Rd in old newspapers accessible via British Newspaper Archives. Hope this helps.
Found a good photo on Facebook that Len posted some time ago – not sure how to get it on here….
Hello from Auckland New Zealand. I am researching the Sedwell Family who lived in Golding’s Cottages Fulham around 1870. I f anyone has any information or can direct me toward any detail concerning this family or even the address I would appreciate direction. A Susan McLean lived in Kings Road at the same time and their may be a marriage between the two families (Charlotte Jane Sedwell and William.
Hi Vernon
the 1871 census RG 10 piece 72 folio 69 page62
shows charlotte j mcLean aged 23 married dress maker daughter of
Harriet Sedwill widow aged 53 marine store dealer living at
at 3 Golding cottages
also gdau Eliza aged 2
free bmd shows the marriage of a William McLean junqt1868 Kensington to
Charlotte jane SADWELL*
i see on ancestry their son alexander McLean b.23 feb 1889 in auckland
enlistment ww1 war
lists william McLean and charlotte jane sedwell as parents born london
mother deceased father living nz 4 years
thier marriage at st phillips kensington on 4th june is also available on ancestrty
chris in ruislip uk
Hi Vernon i dont see my previous rthere is lots on ancestrty
including marriagwe of charlote jane sadwell to william mclean st phillips kensington
the 1871 census RG 10 piece 72 folio 69 page62
shows charlotte j mcLean aged 23 married dress maker daughter of
Harriet Sedwill widow aged 53 marine store dealer living at
at 3 Golding cottages
also gdau Eliza aged 2
free bmd shows the marriage of a William McLean junqt1868 Kensington to
Charlotte jane SADWELL*
on ancestry their son alexander McLean b.23 feb 1889 in auckland
enlistment ww1 war
lists william McLean and charlotte jane sedwell as parents born london
mother deceased father living nz 4 years
chris Glass in ruisluip uk
http://www.jccglass.me.uk
hi vernon my replies seem to vanish charlotte jane sadwell married william McLean kensington
Hi Vernon my replies keep vanishing contact me jccglass@gmail.com
What did you find on the 1871 census? If you look at the streets either side of their entry we can probably see where Goldings Cottages were and look on old maps for possible sites.
hi vernon golding cottages not on a modern map or my 1950 street mnap as whole area redeveloped but it was near the gas works south west of wandworth bridge
proably near the south end lots road or imperial way
check out this old 1873 map
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345976
you will see stanley road to north of gas works both of which are either side of golding cottages in census
hi venon looking again at adjacent places on 1871 census best guess the cottages were close to juction of stanley rd and sands end lane
I have some photos of 392 to 5221 Fulham Road . Would you be interested in these. Early 1900s I would estimate.
Kind regards
Anne Atton
suggest you offer them to Local Archives. or perhaps sell them via ebay, but many thanks for offering them to us, but we only have personal collections of materials , and no archives yet until such time as we may set up a museum on Fulham
Hello . I have in my possession 4 photographs of 392 to 521 Fulham road showing Arthur H Brown furniture business . The photos look Edwardian . Would you be interested in having them . 4 in total.
Hi! I’m trying to find out where 4 Craven Cottages, St Paul’s, Hammersmith was in 1877 and if it’s still there now?
It’s tricky because on a Victorian map Craven Cottage is on New Road that ran parallel to Fulham Palace Road with the river on the other side. I am not sure if that would be in St Paul’s jurisdiction or All Saints. Also because it’s Craven cottage in the singular might not be this place. You know Craven Cottage is where Fulham Football Club has been for over a hundred years, I believe.
Asked my Dad on this on, he thinks you may be looking for Craven Cottages, in Blythe Road W14 and they’re still there, he remembers the Swan Laundry being near by
It should be Jerdan place
New Subject: Vanston Place
Hi, I have previously contacted you regarding my research into Vanston Place: as my surname is Vanston and it is quite a rare name, I’ve been trying to discover if this was named after an ancestor.
Previously you told me that several streets were incorporated under the name Vanston Place on 2 Aug 1876 so I recently went to the London Metropolitan Archives to see if I could find out more. The minutes of the MBW Committee meeting of 8 Aug 1876 mention that this renaming was originally proposed in a letter from the Rev W E Batty, Vicar of St John’s, Fulham, and was initially considered at the Committee meeting of 28 Feb 1873. Rev Batty actually proposed 3 sets of changes:
1. South Parade, King’s Place, St John’s Terrace and Carpenter’s Row (Walham Green) all to be incorporated under the name Melmoth Place.
2. Market Place, Frederick Place and Prospect Place (Walham Green) all to be incorporated under the name Jordan Place.
3. Exeter Place, Farm Place, Robert’s Row and Pond Place (Walham Green) all to be incorporated under the name Vanston Place.
Unfortunately, the file of Presented Papers for this 1873 meeting includes a cardboard tab where this letter should have been filed, with the comment “With the Architect”.
So I’m writing again in-desperation in case you happen to know anything more about the Rev W E Batty or the proposals for Melmoth Place and Jordan Place that might further advance my Vanston Place research. Without some considerable luck, I fear the trail I’m trying to follow has now gone cold!
Thanks in advance,
Paul Vanston
With no replies to my August post below I guess non-one has heard of the Rev W E Batty, Vicar of St John’s in Fulham around 1876 or these other street renaming proposals. So my quest to understand the naming of Vanston Place goes cold!
Hi there
There are quite a few articles in the British Newspaper Archives about him but nothing popped up that would explain a connection to those street name changes. There is also an old book written in 1900 (called Fulham Old and New) which references the name change to Melmoth, Jerdan and Vanston but doesn’t explain why those names were chosen, although it does give a history of some other Fulham street name changes. You could try a deeper dive into the newspaper archives to see if you can identify any interests or connections that Rev Batty had that might provide a further lead for your research. Sorry I couldn’t solve the mystery for you – brick walls are so frustrating.
Thanks for the comments: I need to get a new BNA subscription to see if the articles on Rev Batty hold any clues. I wonder if he simply proposed to name these streets after some of his parishioners!
There is one rather famous Vanston that I came across: Sir George Thomas Barrett Vanston (1853-1923) whom you can read about at http://www.dib.ie but I’m not sure he would’ve achieved very much by 1876 when Rev Batty proposed the name change.
Anyway, I’ll keep searching. Regards, Paul
The Rev. Batty is on the 1881 census living at St John’s Vicarage, Daws Lane. If he is William Edward he was born in 1823 in Brompton, and I think had a brother Charles, a curate. I think the brothers were quite controversial. William had seven children and five servants. Sorry if you have all this – he sounds like an interesting man for the times. Do you know lots more?
I know precisely nothing about Rev Batty so I’m grateful for anything you can tell me. He seems like my only remaining lead.
Based on you comments, I can start tracing him through the censuses. Thanks, Paul.
Paul, look up stjohnsfulham.org>history there is a little bit about the Batty brothers.
Every little bit help! Thanks.
Thanks for all the comments.
Again
My relative Edward Hill was born at ‘Fulham Fairground’ in 1905, and his father was described as a ‘Traveller’.
Does anyone have any information about this fairground or, even better, a photo of the venue?
I’d be thrilled to get a response. Thanks so much.
Jeff Wells, Drummore, Wigtownshire.
Hi, did you find out anything about Fulham Fairground? It is a fascinating place or event. I haven’t any info about it but I am looking. My dad was born in Fulham 1909 he might have known it if they came there every year. Let us know if you find anything.
Hi Lesley
No, no further forward I’m afraid. It’s one of those weird family things where uncle Will was ‘rumoured’ to have come from the fairground but no-one took it seriously until, blow me down, there he is on Ancestry with a father listed as ‘traveller’ and fairgound fixer of some sort.
I’ll keep digging and keep you informed. Thanks so much for getting in touch.
Jeff Wells, Drummore.
I grew up in Fulham in the 1950s and have memories of being taken to a big fair on (I think) Eel Brook Common. I have found on google that in 2013 ‘Carters Steam Fair’ visited Eel Brook common for several days. Perhaps there is a link.
There are a number of places with lots of information about old fairground rides and the fairground community. The National Fairground Archive is based in Sheffield and might be a good place to start.
Eel Brook Common and also Parsons Green Common also apparently held fairs. Earl’s Court had a fairground/showground from before 1900 but I think that would be more in Kensington/Chelsea.
Did you know that Charlie Chaplin had no birth certificate. It was said he was born on a traveller’s site in Birmingham. As he was such a performer even at an early age, it’s not surprising that his birth family might have been fairground workers.
Hi
I am trying to trace one of my ancestors, born Sarah Harris about 1861, Little Hadham, Hertfordshire.
In the 1890’s she was with George Hammond Conradi in London and had five children, although I never found the marriage. On the 1901 census, they were husband and wife.
Before 1911 Mr Conradi had remarried and about that time he had Sarah Harris, now Mrs Conradi, put in an asylum.
Sarah never found on the 1911 census, but another related researcher states that names of people in asylums were placed in newspapers, who could be released and named. At this time Sarah Conradi. Not confirmed, but we believe in could have been Hanwell asylum. Do you know what newspaper this might have been that put the name in ?
Sarah we believe was released and taken in by one of her daughters who had been told Sarah had died by Mr Conradi. In 1930, Sarah, who was also known as Annie Sarah Harris, I believe is residing at 87 Mallinson Road, Wandsworth, as Annie Sarah Harris, with one of her daughters. I believe Sarah dies in 1933 as Annie Harris aged 72 years in the district of Hammersmith. Would there be a local paper at this time that would carry deaths? Sorry this is a bit long winded, but hopefully gives the bigger picture.
Kind regards
Martin
Hi Martin
There is a newspaper notice in the South Western Star dated April 2 1942 saying that Annie Sarah Harris 79 years old of 86 Mallinson Rd, Wandsworth was found dead in her bed on Sunday 29 March 1942 by a Mrs Foster. This same lady can be seen on the 1939 census living at 86 Mallinson Road with a family of the name of Foster. On the 1939 census her birth date is listed as 17 August 1861 which seems to fit with your address and birthdate information above. Hope this helps!
Hi glimmerglassjen
You are an absolute star. I have been researching for over 25 years and for about the last 5 years trying to find out what happened to Annie Sarah, but I think you have finally cracked the case. A big thank you from me. Good luck with your research. Regards
Martin
Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me? I am trying to find the grave of my relative Irene Short. I have a copy of her death certificate, and can confirm that she died on 3/11/1968 at 46 Adeney Rd, Hammersmith. The certificate also shows that an inquest into her death was held on 14/11/1968. I have been able to obtain a copy of the newspaper report of the inquest. I am trying to find out where she was buried. It may be that she has an unmarked grave, and I am unsure how to trace this, if this is the case? I have contacted the Register Office for Hammersmith & Fulham, but they do not hold a record for Irene. Does anyone has any ideas as to how I may be able to find her burial record? I would love to be able to trace the grave, so that the family can finally visit her place of rest. Many thanks
Hi Trudie, in the first instance contact the cemeteries office at the council, link below. They are still very busy so send an email with all the details, name, address, date of death etc which they can read and then get back to you. At the time of sending the email, ask them to confirm whether her grave is public or private. If it’s private, ask them to confirm if a headstone has been placed. Public graves which have several unrelated people in them don’t have headstones. Some of their records are kept off-site so there may be a delay with a reply.
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/births-deaths-and-marriages/deaths/cemeteries-and-burials
Dawn
Try contacting Mortlake Crematorium in case she was cremated rather than buried. LBHF do not run the crematorium so would not have any records.
Hello,
On my recent trip to England I thought I’d walk past the house my great-grandmother was born in – 52 Studdridge Street. I have the number from the 1911 census, but upon walking along the street I found that it, in its current form, only has uneven numbers!
I consulted an old map and it looks like the other side of the road always has been as it is now, so a renumbering may be most likely?
Is there any information on a renumbering? Or has the address been jotted down incorrectly for whatever reason?
Though out of the country again I’d love to know what number the house possesses now – for a future genealogical expedition. 🙂
Many thanks,
Geoffrey
Hi Geoffrey according to the Inland Revenue: Valuation Office Survey, 1910-1915 on the Layers of London website number 52 was in the row of houses opposite and between Bradbourne Street and Chiddingstone Street. It appears to be numbered 97 now.
Thank you ever so much Peter! Turns out I was unwittingly standing right in front of it at one point. Will know for the next time and am looking forward to another trip.
Sorry for the very, very late reply. I hope you’re well and thank you again.
Geoffrey
I’m looking for information about Fuller’s confectionary factory in Hammersmith. I’m researching Edward Siegfried Hengel who came from America and worked as a confectioner, calling one of his sons born in 1905 after the founder William Bruce Fuller Hengel. I can see there is a history by D A Nicholls called ‘The House of Fuller’s’ but I don’t seem able to access it at the Hammersmith and Fulham Library Service. Any information gratefully received.
I lived next door to Fuller’s Sweet Factory which was in Great Church Lane, Hammersmith. It was demolished in the 60s to make way for a hotel, which I think is called Novotel.
My uncle worked there & I remember their delicious walnut layer cake.
I’m sorry but I don’t know anything about the history of the factory.
I used to go to the Latymer school in Hammersmith rd. which was almost next door to Fullers sweet shop. I can also remember at play times at the school ladies, workin’ in Fullers used to throw the odd sweets out to us, but I don’t think I ever caught one!
Thanks. That’s a fun memory!
I think my grandmother also had a Fuller’s connection, painting (designing?) chocolate boxes.
Do you know of any jewellers operating in Parsons Green area around 1935, possibly linked to a family name of Cohen?
My family have recently been clearing out some old family ‘stuff’ and have found a large photograph album dated 1886. It was presented to my Great Grandfather by a group of his colleagues on the occasion of his promotion. They all worked for the Fulham and Brompton District of The Liverpool and Victoria Legal Friendly Society (LV today) The album was organised by a committee and since none of the photographs are of our family then it is likely that they are of the families of his colleagues especially the relatives of the Committee members.
The Committee members were G.E.W. Whitfield, J Barry, T.G Stevens, J Pavitt, A Pattinger, J’O’Brien, and R. Hewitt.
I would be pleased to hear from any of the descendants of these people.
Hello, I am looking into my mothers family tree and am asking if anyone has any information regarding the occupants of 302 Fulham Palace Road on the date of my mothers birth which was 17th February 1926. Her birth mother was Alice Mary Clarke formerly Foote and was a housemaid at 63 Tregunter Road South Kensington. My mother was adopted by family Holder in Freshford, Bath, Somerset but have no details of her adoption.
Hello Trevor, as a descendant of a deceased adopted person, you can now apply for access to your late mother’s adoption file. If your mother is still with us, she can apply for access to her file. In the first instance contact the General Register Office https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records or your local adult social services for advice on how to do this.
Dawn,
Thank you so much for this, I shall definitely look into this as I’m sure it will answer some of the questions.
Regards
Trevor
Hello
I am looking for inmates records for this place: Twynhham Orphanage, 710 Fulham Rd., London SW6 from 1911 onwards. So far I have found nothing on Ancestry or Google. In particular I am researching Wilhelm/ William Ude Born 1899 Germany. In the 1911 census he was recorded as being an inmate age 12.
Thanks
Hi, I’m trying to trace any photos of the houses around 182 Lots Road Chelsea. My grandmother was born there, and her father, (and therefore the house) was still living there in 1917 when she got married. The house is long gone, and I can find photos of the pub (now Lots) and the power station, but nothing of the houses just up the road towards the Kings Road. Any guidance welcome.
Jen
Hi, I have an Edwardian photo of a house in Lots Road near to where my parents lived in the 1940s. We lived at 146, up towards the Kings Road end.Can you tell me the name of those you are researching. I can give you details about Lots Road over the years, and I remember the old houses, shops and pubs, school, local families. etc.
Hi Leslie
It was Thomas & Elizabeth Smith, my great grandparents. They lived at 182 Lots Road from at least 1892 until at least 1917. Elizabeth died in 1904, when my grandmother Florence was 12. There was a sister Louise, and a brother Frank. Thomas may have remarried with one or both of the latter children being from that marriage. He was a carman and then worked in the munitions factory. My grandmother (Florence) moved to Australia as a war bride after 1917 and never wrote or spoke very little about her family. There were a couple of photos my mum has that Louise sent of the family, but that’s it. Anything appreciated, I’ve just started the search using Florence’s birth and marriage certificates but not got a lot more to go on.
Jenny
HI jen
I should have written we lived at 158 Lots Road not 146. with regard to the photo I don’t know how to send you a scan apart from having your email.
regards
Lesley
Hi Leslie, that would be great. I might create a new one off email account that I can put here, and I can delete it after that. Will try and do that tonight,
Jen
Hi Leslie
Try this email account,
LotsRoad@outlook.com
Thanks
Jenny
Hi, I’m wondering if anyone can help me. I’m researching my family tree and I’m looking for any newspaper articles regarding my uncle and aunt. Their names were Patrick Allum & Pauline Allum, they where killed in a road traffic accident on Wood Lane in April 1964.
I’ve had no luck on the net, thankful for any assistance.
Hi You should try the British Library’s Online Newspaper Archive. You have to register but it will have some of the Fulham and Hammersmith Papers – Fulham Chronicle and west london observer.
Good luck
Hi,
Thank you for your reply, somebody on ancestry.com recommended that to me which I did and found loads of articles on the accident. But thank you for replying.
LINDA WET MIDLANDS RE YOUR COMMENT SCRUBB ROAD
i DON’T KNOW ABOUT THE 1890s BUT CERTAINLY PRESENT DAY THERE is a Scrub Lane, Wormwood Scrubs Prison etc etc!
Use google maps and look for Hammersmith Hospital Du Cane Road (which isn’t in Hammersmith)
Thank you, Gilian and Dawn for your replies, I agree and can see Scrub Lane on modern maps, thank you for getting back to me. Very much appreciated
Linda
Hello, I wonder if anyone can confirm whether there was a road called Scrubb Road, Fulham Cross in the 1890s, or if there was a similar address at the time, please? I am trying to determine whether this was a fabricated address because so far, I have not succeeded in finding it in contemporary maps.
Thank you in anticipation,
Linda
West Midlands
Hi Linda, it might help us to identify it if you can tell us what document or census you have found it in?
There is a Scrubs Lane at Shepherds Bush
In map book of Victorian London, Scrubs Lane ran west of Kensal cemetery south to join Wood Lane. I think Fulham Cross was where Lillie Road met Dawes Road and I can’t see anything like Scrubs there.
Hi, there is a Strode Road right next to Fulham Cross School side of Fulham Cross / Dawes Road junction if that helps?
Tracy
Thank you everyone so much for your useful suggestions
Linda
In ww1secret agent’s army navy airforce were trained in balloon to fly over france and flanders to take photographs and pick up agents and escaping prisoners of war the balloon training school was run by the royal navy at the Roehampton club that moved to Hurlingham park it was taken over by the royal navy as the royal navy balloon training school run by Commander William “pink tights” Pollock also dropping agents behind enemy lines.
The photograph’s taken were taken to the hq at 41 Rue St Roch Paris France which is still there with French and British force’s working together studying for aerial photographs a book was written about this called The Secrets of Rue St Roch by Janet Morgan. Penguin Books a very good book
My Grandmother was only around 7 when Germany was bombarding London with Zeppelins. She remembers standing on the stoop watching it, and thinking it was pretty. She lived on Kenneth Street with a family named Hobbs. Kenneth Street isn’t there anymore. Her mother worked in the Woolwich munitions factory and her father went “to the continent” with the Royal Fusiliers Intelligence. They never came back to claim her. She never knew what happened to them. I have discovered that they both survived the war, but left her with the Hobbs.
Hi
I am looking for information about Fane Street, West Kensington. Relatives of mine lived there from 1861 until 1939 at numbers 25 & 27 and a few others. Family name was Floodgate and Styles. The Floodgates were wheelwrights and had a carrier business.
Thanks
Hi I wonder if anyone could help me please. I’m trying to find any information on a lady called Helen mckeown, she had a baby on the 13/2/1967 called Keith Patrick mckeown.
The address at this time was Fulham park gardens.
Hi all,
I am a history lead at a primary school in White City/Shepherds Bush.
I am looking to develop our curriculum to include more local history studies. I am reaching out to see if there are any important historical events you can suggest we look at.
Thank you!
Hello, I am currently researching and writing a publication about the Latymer Foundation in Hammersmith (1624-2024) and have unearthed lots of wonderful 17/18/19 century local history. Happy to share further ideas. The local event with the most national effect would have been the Battle of Turnham Green during the Civil War, imagine all those soldiers clashing right in our neighbourhood…
Dear Teacher – Thank you for note – I don’t have any events in mind but I would be very happy to donate a couple of the books that I published a few years back with a local historian, Caroline MacMillan – it was called Wild about Shepherds Bush and was very well received – anyway, please do get in touch if you’d like to – aw@unity-publishing.Co.uk – www. WildLondon.co.uk
Are you looking for events local to White City or all of Shepherd’s Bush? And what period?
Prior to development the area north of the Uxbridge Road there were brickfields and farms. There were several estates such as Thorpebanks and Oaklands. Locally there was the 1908 Olympic Games and the annual major White City Exhibitions that took place from 1908 to 1914. The opening of Wormholy Park and the White City Lido, and much later Hammersmith Park.
Many sporting events at the White City Stadium included football, athletics, greyhound racing and show jumping. During WW2 there was the bombing of Blaxland House and the Cleverley Estate. Post war the construction of the White City Estate and the BBC centre, and the demise of local industries such as T C Jones.
Within Shepherd’s Bush there was the planned assassination of Cromwell. Charles Dickens link to Lime Grove and Beatrix Potter’s connection to Shepherd’s Bush. Entertainment at the Shepherd’s Bush Empire and then the BBC. The film studios in Lime Grove that later also became the BBC.
The transport systems within the area could cover a whole term alone as could the development of local schools.
I would suggest you read some of the articles on this website and on the LBHF Libraries ‘more than a library’ website. Also apply to join the Facebook Group ‘You’re Probably from W12 if…………….’ where you can read many articles and see hundreds of photos on the area.
Are you looking for events local to White City or all of Shepherd’s Bush? And what period?
Prior to development the area north of the Uxbridge Road there were brickfields and farms. There were several estates such as Thorpebanks and Oaklands. Locally there was the 1908 Olympic Games and the annual major White City Exhibitions that took place from 1908 to 1914. The opening of Wormholy Park and the White City Lido, and much later Hammersmith Park.
Many sporting events at the White City Stadium included football, athletics, greyhound racing and show jumping. During WW2 there was the bombing of Blaxland House and the Cleverley Estate. Post war the construction of the White City Estate and the BBC centre, and the demise of local industries such as T C Jones.
Within Shepherd’s Bush there was the planned assassination of Cromwell. Charles Dickens link to Lime Grove and Beatrix Potter’s connection to Shepherd’s Bush. Entertainment at the Shepherd’s Bush Empire and then the BBC. The film studios in Lime Grove that later also became the BBC.
The transport systems within the area could cover a whole term alone as could the development of local schools.
I would suggest you read some of the articles on this website and on the LBHF Libraries ‘more than a library’ blog. Also apply to join the Facebook Group ‘You’re Probably from W12 if…………….’ where you can read many articles and see hundreds of photos on the area.
Are you looking for events local to White City or all of Shepherd’s Bush? And what period?
I would suggest you read some of the articles on this website and on the LBHF Libraries ‘more than a library’ website. Also apply to join the Facebook Group ‘You’re Probably from W12 if…………….’ where you can read many articles and see hundreds of photos on the area.
The only thing I can remember was the bombing of the railway station at White city, and how it was left like that for some years. I was told that people died there but not sure of what happened.
Hi there, I have been researching my mother’s family tree. My grandmother used to have a hair salon called Denyse salon de Coiffeur on Greyhound road. Does anyone remember this or visited? Any follow up on this much appreciated. I’m her granddaughter. Many thanks.
Hi. Would anyone have any information about old Greyhound Cottages in Fulham of Chelsea please? My great great grandparents were living there in 1871. His occupation was a pig farmer, but others with the same address are shown as gardeners and suchlike, so I thought it might have been part of an estate or something similar. I appreciate they might be long gone and untraceable, but thought it was worth a try. Many thanks.
Did you know that the artist ERIC RAVILIOUS lived on the River Thames in Hammersmith in the early 1930s shortly after his marriage to fellow artist TIRZAH GARWOOD? There is a blue plaque commemorating this at 48 Upper Mall.
His life and work is now the subject of a new film: ERIC RAVILIOUS – DRAWN TO WAR which will be shown at the Fulham Road Picturehouse on Tuesday 5 July at 1pm and again at 6pm.
http://www.foxtrotfilms.com/films/eric-ravilious-drawn-to-war
Yes I’m aware, as my ex’s family lived in Upper Mall.
Serendipity! I hope you’ll catch the film.
All best wishes, Maureen
Hi,
I’m trying to trace Hubert and Joan Cates who lived and 252 King Street, Hammersmith. Hubert died on 16th March 1968 aged 72, former occupation deputy Superintendent (docks). Any further information would be great.
Thank you.
I remember Palmer’s Stores. I went to see Father Christmas there when I was probably five or six. I remember it seeming dark in there and the floor was wet. Maybe there was a food hall. I remember another department store in the middle area of King Street. Also a food shop called Jolly’s that had chickens on spits in the window. There was Coopers in Hammersmith Market. I think they owned it. They hade a massive fruit and veg store there. I remember Peters the shoe shop further down. My Dad had a shop at 138, King Street called The Ritz!! It was a hairdresser and barbershop and then the barbershop was turned into a sweet shop. I remember the Regal Cinema, The Broadway Cinema, The Commodore cinema. Furnival Gardens at the front of the town hall and a guy selling newspapers shouting’Star, News and Standard. There was a telephone exchange in the road opposite 138 and round the back a shop that sold ice cream with pink juice on it. I think they were Italian. The fish and chip shop near us was owned by a Jewish family, like we were. There was a cafe, which still exists owned by in Italian family called the Capitellis. So many lovely memories
Hi Angela, it was H A Parker in Hammersmith Market, not Coopers. They didn’t own the market, but had the large fruit and Veg shop in the old market in Bradmore Lane. There are photos of this and other stalls in the market (and Palmers in the Broadway) in the Facebook group “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”. Regards, Cary
Coopers was, I think, the fishing tackle shop in King St and was the fish and chip shop called The Regal ?
I used to go in there in probably the late 50s early 60s, I remember the tall guy behind the counter.
Yes coopers was the fishing tackle shop on King Street. I still have my tackle box bought there in 1960.
Hi – I am wondering if anyone remembers the Adler family living at 196 Fulham Palace Road from the late 1940s-early 1970s? There was Panni (Anna) Adler, her husband Francis (Ferenc) Adler and also daughter Lilian Adler, aka Baroness Huszar, aka Livia Pursey; aka Livia Lemoine. I believe the Adlers ran a drapery store from this address and Panni made clothes for dolls. If anyone remembers them it would be great to hear from you!
Hi, I remember a clothes shop in King’s Road, Chelsea run by people called Adler. They made clothes in the basement. My mother worked for them in the 1930s as a machinist. I know they were still there in the late 1950s, because my sister and I used to go in there now and again. It was on the corner of Flood Street about number 145 or near. Any relation?
Let us know if you find out anything please.
Hi Lesley – Thanks for the message! I believe the Adler shop you are referring to was owned by a man called Woolf Adler? It was at 141 Kings Road Chelsea. I think they specialised in corsetry? He married Dora Goldenfield and she managed the factory. They are not related to the Adlers I am looking for but I hope this is of interest to you. Thanks! Jen
Hi Jen, thanks for the info on the Adler shop. Yes that would be the one my mum worked for. She had an accident with a sewing machine and had to go to hospital to get her finger top sewn back on! I recall now they made corsetry. My older sister in the late 50s bought a silver swimming costume in there, it was very Hollywood and I was aghast.
I wonder whether anyone might remember the Adler family who lived at 196 Fulham Palace Road from the late 1940s – early 1970s. There was Panni (Anna) Adler and Francis (Ferenc) Adler and their daughter Lilian Adler, aka Baroness Huszar, who married Commander Harry Pursey in the 1950s. I believe that the Adler family ran a drapery store at this address and Panni Adler made dresses for dolls. If anyone remembers these people or the store it would be great to hear from you.
I have now esablished that the name of the shop that the Adler’s ran at 196 Fulham Palace Road was called “The Kiddies Shop”. If this prompts memories for anyone who may have known the owners Panni (Anna) Adler, Francis (Ferenc) Adler and their daughter Lilian Adler, aka Baroness Huszar please let me know.
Since I was a very small child I had a a terrible dream of being chased by a young man in bishops park he stabs me in the back after I’m fling over my school trying to call my friends I know it sounds mad so I wanted to find out if my dream was for real. Or not.
Hello, I am writing from Australia.I am trying to locate any information about the family of George and Mary Harden and in particular their son Albert Edward Harden. Albert was born 16 August 1886, the address on his birth certificate is Willow Vale Nursery, Shepherds Bush and his father’s occupation was a florist.
The 1901 census the family at 6 Willow Vale, Shepherds Bush. Any information about the family or their home/business would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Vicky Harden
Vicky I would suggest you contact the London Borough of Hammersmith & Fulham Archives. They published a book called Images of London – Shepherd’s Bush & White City. In it is a photo of numbers 2 to 10 Willow Vale. Another of their books called Hammersmith & Shepherd’s Bush in Old Photographs has an old photo of the Queen Adelaide pub and the Willow Vale Nursery greenhouses can be seen in the background.
I’d like to find out when the buildings from 753 (Parsons Nose) to 761 (Kelpis) Fulham Road were built. They are all the same style so presumably built together. Across the road the building says 1894 on the top of it so I suspect it’s around that time, but I would like to find out as specifically as possible. An 1895 map doesn’t show these buildings, or the one opposite, but it was presumably out of date as soon as it was printed. The first map I can find that shows them is in 1906. Any ideas where I could find this information out? Thank you!
I’ve been searching my family tree for some year’s now, but what I’m interested in is a place my mother and 4 of my siblings lived
LCC WELFARE CENTRE 367 FULHAM ROAD.
It Would have been between 1950-1955.
My Father Was not allowed to live with us.
Would love to know more about this place also if its possible for a photo.
369 Fulham Road was the St Stephen’s Hospital originally St George’s Union Infirmary (1878-1914) then Fulham Road Infirmary (1915-1924) then St. Stephen’s Hospital that was closed in 1989. In 1930 the LCC took over the workhouse and renamed it the Public Assistance Institution. I wonder if the Welfare Centre 367 Fulham Road was part of, or next door to, the municipal hospital. In the 1950s there were council hostels for homeless families, I remember one in Cadogan Gardens.
if you find photos of the old workhouse you might be able to see 367.
I have been doing some old document transcriptions for the Foundling/Coram project and have been tracing a family via my Ancestry account. They were fairly wealthy but one of their sons died at 13, Paradise Cottages, Albion Road, Hammersmith. I am trying to discover where Paradise Cottages were and perhaps whether it was a small nursing home? (I have discovered an Old Bailey report about a murder at no. 9 some years later but still no idea where it was located.)
Thank you
Julia Blair
The A-Z of Victorian London 1888 shows Albion Hall, Albion Gardens, Albion Villas and a Paradise Row all off and around Dalling Road. Dalling Road is running north of King Street, Hammersmith. I hope this is of help. It is not a large scale map so quite hard to see the various small streets and roads here.
Let us know what you find out please.
You may find this list useful.
Also the ever reliable National library of Scotland online OS maps see this wonderful 25″ map
You’ll find it north of Flora Gardens and has been replaced by Ravenscourt House but the John Betts school, Church of the Holy Innocents and Thatched House pub sites look like fixtures although they may have been rebuilt.
Hope this helps
Thank you very much for the information. The maps are really interesting! kind regards Julia Blair
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Hi Dawn,
Would like to thank you for helping me to locate Clara Naude resting place. I used the links you provided me and through them I have located the her grave/resting place in Margarvine Cemetery Hammersmith. Many Thank you for your time and good help. Kind regards.
I’m wondering if there is any way I can find out who was living in 41 Mall Road, Hammersmith in 1926. My grandmother, using a false name Christina Isabel White, was in St Pancreas Workhouse and and gave birth there and names a husband Joseph living at 41 Mall Road. I cannot find a marriage or any trace of this man. I’m grateful for any help.
You need to search the electoral registers for Hammersmith, these are available at the LBHF archives above Hammersmith Library when it reopens in June, details at the website. This is not a failsafe as Joseph may have been a temporary sub-tenant or did not want to register to vote. You could try the newly available 1921 census on FindMyPast, which should be available in libraries or you can sign up.
Good luck with your research.
Thank you
Hi Susie, the electoral registers are online at Ancestry. I cant find the address in 1925, but in 1924, 1926 and 1927, the eligible voters were Percy Samuel Phillips and Eva May Phillips. The address is in Hammersmith South Constituency, polling district V.
1920’s I know little about my maternal grandmother as she died aged 24. She married in 1923 and was living at 21 Westwick Gardens. In 1926 she gave bath to twins at Parkside Maternity Home, which I have never been able to find. Her name was Vivian Price nee Bayley. Any insight you can give would be most welcome. Many thanks
Parkside Maternity home – jsut google that and there’s information there inc https://wellcomelibrary.org/moh/report/b18237952/118#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=118
Many thanks Gillian, that’s a big help!
I am doing research for a book set in the Victorian Era and I’m trying to discern whether balls would be held at Fulham Palace since if is the home of the Bishop.
I would contact FulhamPalace direct, and state which Bishops you are interested in. Bishop Tait was one on the Bishopa
of Qeen Viictorias reighn.
Hello
I am trying to find out about my Grandad Frank Sealey who is the son of Emily Wayling. In particular I am trying to find out about his life as an actor in 1920s in Fulham. We cannot find any info on this and would love to know more. Please let me know if you can help!
Kind regards
Lisa
Hi, my Dad was born in De Morgan Road 1941. Can you tell me which school he would have most likely attended please. Thank you
There was a school in Hugon Road and another one near Bagleys Lane in Langford Street I think it was.
Hello.
I am interested to find out the year the mansion block I live in was built and if there is any other interesting information about the building. I think it is Victorian. Aynhoe Mansions on Aynhoe Road in Brook Green.
check this website para5.22. Your thoughts are correct. For more info including maps directories and possibly photographs contact the LBHF archives above Hammersmith Library when it reopens.
@fhhs Thank you very much for the response and the link to that document. I will definitely get in contact with the archive for more information.
Hi
I had a friend called Ron Stone living off high street, near Putney Bridge
I have not seen him for over 30 years
Can you be kind enough to locate him
Many thanks
Basheer
I was born in Hammersmith 28th december1952 and lived in Parfrey st at least 20 years!
I remember my neighbours and Mrs Barker and a few others! Used to feed the swans at Putney and Hammersmith,paid 6d Gaument cinema Saturday
Hot dogs 1shilling and 6pence etc!
i wonder if you were related to Fontana the Coppersmith guy who I seemed to remember had an ‘electric’ van! I was very young and lived at number 17; I also remember Mrs. Barker who used feed the pidgeons by chuckin’ whatever out of her upstairs window! I remember the ‘Saturday mornin’ pictures at the Gaumont club and ‘Uncle Bob, who used to run it! I lived there until 1959.
Hello,
I am looking for the address of a tea and/or confectionery shop in Fulham that was operated by John Henry Speedy, his wife Sarah and their daughter Kathleen during the 1890s. Thank you very much for any light you may be able to shed on this.
Jenny Hughes
Hi Jenny, nothing showing up on the censuses for the Speedy family in Fulham, but when Kathleen married in Fulham in 1897 her father, John Henry, was shown as a Master Mariner. I found the family in 1881 in Thorne, Yorkshire, he was listed as a Master Mariner Barge.
If Kathleen married in 1897 you might find something under her married name re. the tea shop or at least an address for her in Fulham. What was her husband’ name?
I don’t understand how to post a comment – this is for Jenny Hughes’ post re tea shop and Speedy in Fulham. You say Kathelen married 1897 using FreeBMD she either married John Greenfield Graham or Herbert Roger Sadd Q1 Fulham. But Anc online says Sadd marrried someone else. Can you not find address where Speedy family were living in census ie for Kathleen ie 1901 and 1911 – i don’t have access Jill
Kathleen married John Greenfield Graham, according to the register they were both living at 853 Fulham Road. By the 1901 census they were up in Gateshead with her father, a Master Mariner Retired, and her mother.
Good Afternoon
My maternal great grandfather’s family (Coomer) lived in South Kensington (SW6) up to 1900 or so. They had two (2) roads named after them, Coomer Place and Coomer Road. The great grandfather’s name was Fredrick C Coomer (1858-1911), son of Joshua (Josiah) Coomer (1831-1906). Why would my ancestors have a road named after them? Were they a predominant family at that time? There is a large building on the corner of Coomer Place and North End Road now owned/operated by the NHS. Would this building have been owned by the Coomer family?
Thank you for your help.
Hi Sean, Have you found the family in the censuses? Apart from that a newspaper article from 1934 “Some personalities in the Making of Fulham” mentions 3 Coomer brothers, Richard, Charles & Josiah. Richard had a farm, which he turned into a building estate which included Coomer, Rylston, Haldane, Eastcourt and St Thomas’ roads. Charles developed his market garden farm into Bramber, Cheason and Archel roads. Josiah was at one time a green grocer.
Hi Sean,
I will be writing to you directly in the next few days regarding your Coomer family. I am partially responsible for this website, so have your contact details
hi,
my great great grandmother, clara naude died in the royal brompton hospital (consumption hospital) in 1895 of consumption. i have acquired a death certificate that states she died at the royal brompton in london. her husband ( my great great grandfather) died a month before in france which we believe was of consumption too while visiting his parents and trying to sort out their last affairs. my question is, if you died at the royal brompton of consumption and had no money, where would the hospital have buried you?. is there a possibility that the hospital would have had some arrangement with a local cemetery? i would love to find clara naude’s grave. i wish to thank you in advance for any help.
Have you tried the Brompton Cemetery site?
Hi Lesley, Yes Dawn has kindly checked for me. Thanks.
Hi Richard, the records for Brompton cemetery are online, she isn’t listed. The next likely cemetery is at Hanwell, managed by Kensington & Chelsea, not the Westminster one on the other side of the Road. Hanwell’s records aren’t online, you have to contact them to ask https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/births-deaths-marriages-and-citizenship/deaths/hanwell-cemetery other than that, where was she living before her death? if it was elsewhere, the Board of Guardians for that parish may have been responsible for her burial.
Hi Dawn, thank you for the information. I believe Clara Naude’s last address which was listed on her death certificate was Bassein Park Road, Shepherds Bush, London. So would you know who the Board of Guardians would be for this Parish? Thanks in advance. Richard.
Hi Richard, the address most probably came under Hammersmith. The current cemeteries dept is here https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/births-deaths-and-marriages/deaths/cemeteries-and-burials/cemeteries-hammersmith-fulham
Their records aren’t online. Send them an email enquiry with her name, date of death and last address and ask them if they can check their records. Also ask them to confirm if the plot is common or private if they find an entry. It could be either Fulham Palace Road or Margravine Road. Please don’t expect an immediate reply, they do reply but take ages as they are dealing with the recently bereaved in addition to family history requests which don’t take any priority.
Hi Dawn, many thanks for the information and pointing me in the right direction. Much appriciated for your help. Thank you.
My dad was born 25 July 1940 as Anthony Ernest Mills. He was adopted November 1943 & his name was changed to Anthony Derek Robert Frost. His birth parents were Ernest Victor Mills & Phyllis Ellen Phoebe Mills. I believe Phyllis died in childbirth when having my dad. But I believe there may have been another child/ren born before my dad in 1940. My brother & I are trying to fit the pieces together. Can you help please?
Suggest you start with what you know and use FreeBMD. It shows Anthony E Mills born in the quarter to September in Kensington and possibly a still birth registered as Male to Mills and White at Fulham a year previously. Then send for the two birth certificates.
A Phyllis White died in Fulham in 1943 in the quater to Jun. Another certificate to get.
You can then use electoral registers to tie down addresses from the certificates.
Hope this gets you started LBHF Archives will be a good source when it reopens alternatively you can use Ancestry or findMy Past for free in most libraries across the country.
Good luck with your search.
The death of Phyllis White would be incorrect as she would have been Phyllis Mills when she passed away. The male child born and died 1939 would not be a still birth, those are registered separately and that register is not publicly available, but most probably a child that sadly didn’t survive long after birth.
Hello Karen, if you are new to family history a good site to explore is http://www.freebmd.org.uk to search for births, marriages and deaths. The site is free to use. You can also register to search births and deaths at http://www.gro.gov.uk again free to use but the date ranges available are limited. I looked for your father’s birth entry, registered at Kensington 1940 with a mothers maiden surname of White. That led to a marriage at Battersea 1938. There are 2 potential children, a daughter in 1939 at Battersea but I won’t name her as she might still be alive, and a male child in 1939 at Fulham. There is potential death of Phyllis Ellen Mills in 1948 at Willesden aged 32. Unfortunately not all information is free, so you may need to purchase some certificates to prove this from the General Register Office (GRO). If you father is still with us, has he applied to the GRO for access to his adoption file? https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records
Dawn
Hello again, I just had a look at the 1939 register, the full details are available with a subscription but Ernest appears to have been married before as there is a son Ronald born in 1929 and redacted children who are under 100 years of age. That marriage might have been Ernest to Priscilla Meadows in 1923. Priscilla Mills dies in 1936. There are more children showing up on freebmd as Mills mmn Meadows, more to explore.
Hello Karen, if you are new to family history a good site to explore is http://www.freebmd.org.uk to search for births, marriages and deaths. The site is free to use. You can also register to search births and deaths at http://www.gro.gov.uk again free to use but the date ranges available are limited. I looked for your father’s birth entry, registered at Kensington 1940 with a mothers maiden surname of White. That led to a marriage at Battersea 1938. There are 2 potential children, a daughter in 1939 at Battersea but I won’t name her as she might still be alive, and a male child in 1939 at Fulham. There is potential death of Phyllis Ellen Mills in 1948 at Willesden aged 32. Unfortunately not all information is free, so you may need to purchase some certificates to prove this from the General Register Office (GRO). If you father is still with us, has he applied to the GRO for access to his adoption file? https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records
Dawn
Hello Karen, I had posted a previous reply but that does not appear on here now. It contains more hints and tips for you in addition to the reply from ffhs. Maybe the moderators have not approved it? Dawn
Hi Dawn
I don’t check everyday and am in the process of handing over to Vernon having moved away. Glad you are on the case and got more out of FreeBMD than I did with my quick look. Replies like yours are the life blood of our Contact Us site do keep helping.
Thanks
John
Hello, my great great grandfather ran a photographic studio at 110a King St Hammersmith I believe towards the end of the 19th century and/or around the turn of the 20th century. His name was Vincent Hamilton and my great grandmother was Louisa May Hamilton. I wonder if you have any information about him/them. Many thanks. Liz Thomas
Hi
My dad ran a business called Chancery Engineering in Black’s Road Hammersmith from the late 50’s until about 1973.
The business had to relocate when the M&S store on King St was developed.
My understanding is that their site was used as part if the delivery entrance for the new store.
Unfortunately we don’t gave any photos so
it would be great to see any photos or maps of Black’s Road from that era. There doesn’t seem to be anything online.
A long shot I’m sure, but the family would love to jog some now very hazy memories of that time.
Many thanks
Just adding some details to my original post. My dad was called Ric Blundell (Is actual name was Harold but always called Ric) and his partner was Bert Scott (Albert Frederick Scott).
I also recall they were good friends with Smee family who lived in Angel Walk. Peter and Lilly Smee and son Paul (I may have Peter and Paul mixed up) They worked for the business but I believe emigrated to Gibraltar early 70’s.
If that jogs any recollections or photos from the area would be great to hear from you.
Many thanks.
Some information on this came-up from some members of our Facebook group “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”. Both Bill Parker and Ann Byrne both lived in Angel Walk. Apparently, Lily and Peter Smee, who are now in their 80’s, still live at No 32 Angel Walk
Thanks Cary, That’s amazing!
I hope you can help please.
Next to what was the original Windsor Castle pub 136 King Street there are the remains of what I imagine was an ornate entrance.
Iam fascinated by them
Hi, is the Fulham/Hammersmith boundary marker at the Parr’s Ditch outfall just downstream of Hammersmith Bridge still there? I know the area around Riverside Studios has been redeveloped recently. Was the boundary marker preserved anywhere? I’ve walked along that stretch of the Thames Path to find it; also looked across the river from Barnes in case it was river-side but I’ve not found it.
Hi, I am trying to find out when St. Clement’s Mansions, Lillie Road were built. I have found an article in the Fulham Cornicle dated 1898, which mentions a resident of the mansions; I also note that the mansions are not on the 1891 Census, but are on the 1901. However – I have found a detailed map, dated 1900 and the mansions are not on it. Land registry doesn’t give me a date of build. Anyone know when they were built, or have any information about who built them, what was there before etc. Many thanks in advance, Charlotte
Mike Chilvers used to live in Parfrey St. Fulham W6 from about 1940 to 1959 and is keen to make contact with others who remember the area. Post a reply to get in touch.
Hello, I’m trying to find information about the death of my sister, not sure if this is the kind of thing that anyone can help with here but here goes. she was just 7 years old when she was hit by a car and killed on connigham Rd, Hammersmith in April 1965, I’m trying to find any newspaper clippings of the accident, it was reported in a least one local newspaper but we can’t remember which.
Some details in case anyone can point me in the right direction.
Christina Servey
Aged 7
Hit by a car while crossing conningham road. She was taken to Ducane Rd hospital where she passed away.
A bit of a long shot but maybe someone may know where I could begin to look for info.
Thank you
The Fulham Chronicle (local paper) should have written about this. Have a look at their website and possibly drop them a line. Good luck.
Hello, Mr Servey. The Hammersmith and Shepherd’s Bush Gazette of 29th April, 1965 says, on Page 2 –
GIRL HURT
“8 Year-old Christina Servey sustained multiple injuries when she was hit by a car while crossing Conningham Road, Shepherd’s Bush on Monday evening. Christina, who lives in Conningham Road, was taken to Hammersmith Hospital where she was detained.”
I checked birth and death records and she is shown as born in 1958 and aged 7 at the time of her passing so the paper has her age wrong and does not go on to record the exact date of her death. I was unable to find any more.
team photos of fulham football club 8th. of august 1968
Sorry,I don’t understand your rather abrupt comment, do you wish to find a photo or perhaps you have a photo you wish to share. My nephew is a great Fulham fan it’s possible he may be able to help if given more information.
Hi If you were trying to post photos on here that is not possible unless you use a link to a website.
The National Probate Calendar records the wills of Elise and Joseph Mayerl, who died in 1937 and 1937, living at 54 Richmond Gardens, Hammersmith. A Google search turns up a Richmond Gardens in Harrow and another in Hendon, Was there a name change? Bombs?
There was a Richmond Road on a map dated 1871. It ran down south east from Shepherds Bush common. There appears to be houses there, and the road passes under a railway bridge then loops west to Shepherds Bush Road I think. It got more built up later though. There is a shorter Richmond Way there today I believe.
Richmond Gardens lay underneath the shopping centre at Shepherds Bush Green, South Side. See this terrific map from National Library of scotland’s OS archive online. Go to the archive or Ancestry and look in electoral rolls or Find My Past for 1921 census.
Good luck
Yes, they appear to be on the 1921 census Find My Past , in Hammersmith. We’re they immigrants?
Hello
I am looking for inmates records for this place: Twynholm Orphanage, 710 Fulham Rd., London SW6 from 1911 onwards. So far I have found nothing on Ancestry or Google. In particular I am researching Wilhelm/ William Ude Born 1899 Germany. In the 1911 census he was recorded as being an inmate age 12.
hi, I have a glass etched with images of a man and woman and words saying ‘with compliments from Mr &Mrs W G Rout Fulham and am trying to find out who they were and anything about them.
Hi
This would be Walter George Rout and his wife Iris Irene Rout (née Galer) Walter was the landlord of the Prince of Wales pub at 14 Lillie Road from 1933. The pub is still there. Hope this helps!
Thank you to all who replied to my question. Think the rebuild at All Saints is the reason for the odd marriage location and it is Burlington Road. Thanks again to all
Could be burlington Road sw6
Hi, I have found a marriage for a Stephen Priddle & Annie Brien in 1881. It is listed under All Saints, Fulham, so is a C of E marriage but on the actual entry it says the marriage took place at ‘Lecten? Hall, Burligte?? Road’. I was born in Fulham, but no matter how many different spellings I try I cannot find any reference to such a place and I have no idea where this was. Any help would be very much appreciated, many thanks in advance, Charlotte
I suspect the Road is Burlington Road which runs from the site of the Fulham Pottery through to Fulham Road just to the east of Fulham High Street. It is walking distance to All Saints Church. I grew up close by and in the 1950s there were quite a few commercial premises some closed up. Google maps shows that many have been either converted to apartments or torn down and replaced in the last 40 years. One of these might have been a ‘hall’. Despite being registered at All Saints the marriage might have been from a religious group such as the Quakers who used a ‘hall’ for meetings. Also the name of your Hall might be ‘Lecture hall’ in which case it might have been part of a larger building one of which was (in the 19th century) an ‘academy’.
However unless you can trace the religious leanings of your ancestors this is just speculation. As I am sure others will suggest you could try visiting the Hammersmith Archives.
According to newspaper reports of July 1881, “The Parish Church of All Saints, Fulham, which has been rebuilt at a cost of £9,000, will be consecrated by the Bishop of London on Saturday next”, so it would appear the marriage took place in the parish but not at the church. Maybe the Hammersmith Archives has more information.
Thanks Dawn, think you have cracked it – Best Regards Charlotte
I don’t know if this is of interest but I believe there were Priddles who traded in North End Road market on the stalls. I also agree it could be Burlington Road.
Hi Lesley, I have just seen your reply about North End Road market. My Great Grandparents were Priddles and Coleshills and did indeed have stalls in the market. Are you from a family connected to the Market? I have a couple of mysteries you may be able to help with!! Best Regards Charlotte
Hi Charlotte, No I didn’t have family connected to the market. I went to school (Hurlingham 1957-61) with a girl called (Mary?) Priddle and someone said her family had a stall in North End road. Is the mystery about the 1881 marriage? Regards Lesley
I am in the process of investigating my family tree and my mother Vera Lucas (Robins) mentioned that her cousin Thomas Henry Michael Lucas born 4 April 1916 (his father was John Thomas Lucas and his mother Elizabeth) died accidentally by falling into a Vat at the Lots Road Power Station, Chelsea in June 1962. Unfortunately my mother has now passed away and I didn’t know if someone can confirm this. I appreciate any information you can provide.
Regards
John Robins
Hello John, there is an entry in the death index (I use freebmd.org.uk) Deaths Jun 1962
LUCAS Thomas H age 46 Chelsea vol 5c pg 332
a copy of the death certificate would confirm whether this is your person of interest or not ie the date and place of death and the cause. If there was an inquest, that would also show on the certificate. Coroners records are usually closed for 75 years before being shredded or deposited for safe-keeping at an archives. Most inquests, should the cause of death be newsworthy, made their way into the local newspaper, I suppose the Hammersmith Archives or British Library might be a way forward. I checked the British Newspaper Archive and, if your person of interest came from Dalston, there are snippets of news across the country. You can sign up to the BNA and see you first 3 articles for free.
Hi Dawn
Many thanks for your prompt response, as suggested I will order a copy of the Death Certificate and also look at the local newspapers, Hammersmith Archives and British Library.
I have details from the England and Wales National Probate Calendar Index 1962 and states that he died 12 June 1962 at Chelsea Basin, Chelsea. I know this is the correct person as the probate states the the the effects of the will went to his sister Nana Joyce Gooden (Lucas) who I recognise.
Kind regards
John Robins
Hello again, re: the entry in the probate calendar, could I just clarify for you that he didn’t leave a will, the entry is for a letter of administration and that his sister was the personal representative not necessarily a beneficiary. Had there been a will she might have been shown to be his executor. Personal representatives may or may not be beneficiaries. A letter of administration was required for something of value in his estate that had to be dealt with.
Hello Dawn
Many thanks for clarifying the details on probate and wills.
As suggested I also registered with the British Newspaper Archives and found the three articles you advised me of, that confirms that it is the same Thomas Henry Lucas that died in a Vat at Lots Road Power Station.
Many thanks for all your help and assistance.
Kind regards
John
Hi I had a grandmother that was born in hammersmith in 1897 but the rest of her family were born in Dorset. I cannot find a birth certificate the details I have found are through the census. I cannot see that her parents lived in London.does anyone have any idea where I can look.
Many thanks Geri
Follow up the address in the census using electoral registers. Ancestry or FindMyPast are usually available in libraries.
Search FreeBMD for the birth and her marriage. You may have to send for certificates but they are good sources of information on relatives, professions and areas.
Also put what details you have on this site and some kind soul may have a look for you.
Good luck with your research
I might be able to search for you…can you give full name of your grandmother, DOB and where she was born (Hosp, private house etc), parents name(s), mothers maiden name, where they lived in Dorset and I’ll look
Elsie Rose steel/steele
E. The family lived in Parley, her parents were Albert and Flora steel/steele and flora’s maiden name was Kent
We do not know her birth date or place of birth
Many thanks ladies for your help
I’ve come across a letter dated September 1898 which is addressed from River Nook, Cedar Gardens Putney. I typed this in Google and this society came up. Do you have any information? Was this a hospital?
Many thanks
Hi Karen
I noticed in The A-Z of Victorian London(1888) that there is a place called The Cedars marked on the map. It is just to the east of Putney Bridge alongside the river. Nearby is Cedar Lodge, Cedars Road at the eastern edge and something called the cedar tree (pub?) there doesn’t seem to be many buildings marked. I couldn’t see anything called River Nook. By the way what was the society that came up?
Hi
Just seeing if anyone from the group knows anything about WW2 connections to White City and Wormholt?
Apparently the Peabody place suffered a V bomb and 30 people were killed?
Google: white city london bombing world war two
I’ve just written a short article about this for The Local. See page 6 on this link: https://issuu.com/thelocalnewsletter/docs/the_local_issue_06
Was there prefabs in hestercombe avenue fulham
Yes as far as I know
I’ve been seaching the 1939 register for 91 Bayonne road Fulham but higher odd numbers are missing on find my past . The National Archives at Kew infom me the find my past has 10 more images than ancestry so if some kind soul can check with find my past
and tell me if my butcher family are living there. I know they are there in 1942 as it the address on a marriage and 1946 in a voters list
TIA
I was told my grandad used to jump off bridges in london for fun late 1800s. How can I find out. All I know is his surname was Benstead.
My brother used to do this in the late 1940s and 1950s. Him and his friends dived or jumped off Battersea Bridge into the Thames. I didn’t know it was done from other bridges in the 19th century.
Do you have other information on your grandfather ? It’s a good start.
Hello, I am interested to find out about Leffern Road please. Looking at both Google Maps and an 80s A-Z, the road looks like it may have been originally longer than it is now. I’m thinking maybe due to war damage, but I’d love to know for sure please if anyone can help. My great grandad was born there. Also interested to find out about Birchwood Cottages Hammersmith and where they might have been located in the 1880s, unfortunately no road name.
Thank you in advance for any help 🙂
For information on Leffern Road contact Cathnor Park Area Action Group (CPAAG)
Tim Corn – timcornuk@yahoo.co.uk
Morning
My grandfather has recently passed and my mother has kept his ring which was handed down to him by his father. It has a small leather pouch but unfortunately we are unable to read the marks to make out the origin of the ring. I wonder if you can help in any way?
What we have been able to see looks like
Diamond merchant
King street
Hammersmith
I have posted a picture below of the hallmarks inside the ring, the makers marks are LS. It is also date stamped 1915. I have tried to look this up online but can’t find anything and would love to give my mother some history of the ring.
David
Hi – there was a Saqui and Lawrence jewellery store at 3a King Street Hammersmith in 1915 which could be the one? There are some lovely old advertisements with sketches of their rings/jewellery in newspaper articles from the time. You might find a sketch that matches your heirloom!
I am interested in any historical information you may have regarding Palmers Stores on Hammersmith Broadway that later became Littlewoods store in 1953. I understand that my 3 x great Unce was Alfred John Palmer who I belive founded the store. However by 1891 he seems to have retired and become country gentleman in Cambridgeshire. Whilst living in Fulham for the two earlier censuses he describes his occupation as Cheesemonger but I think it is around that time in the second alf of the 1800s that he started Palmers Stores. I wonder if you have any information on the subject.
Ben, there are a number of pictures of the store/ comments in the Facebook group “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”…you can search the group for a particular subject (i.e. Palmers)
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Many thanks
Hi,
I am looking for information on an ancestor of mine born Emily A Young (later Benetiere) born July 15th 1872.
In 1891 she was a servant in Hammersmith, London. Is there a way to track down the name of household she was serving at this time?
Many thanks,
Lauren Barham
Try Ancestry or FindMyPast, may come up in the census. (Usually available in public libraries)
Alternatively if she changed her name by marriage in the UK then search FreeBMD then apply for the full certificate that will list her address which you can then look up in the electoral roll of street directories.
Good luck
Lauren, I have had a quick look at the 1891 census on Ancestry but nobody called called Emily Young was registered as living in Hammersmith. Where did you find her residency details? Are you sure it was Hammersmith? If she was a live-in servant then she would be registered at her ‘work’ address but many servants in West London were ‘day servants’ going home to their family every evening. Please post any evidence you have and I will look again.
Hi Lauren
The name should be Emily ann Obrien xx
I am trying to get information on the early life of my late father
His name was Sidney Henry Palmer
Born 13th march 1901 at 8 Mimosa Street
In the 1901 census he is listed as a two week old visitor in the home of Mr & Mrs Taylor in Brentford.
In the 1911 census he is listed as the adopted 10 year old son of Mr & Mrs Woods of Shinfield Berks
His birth was registered in South Fulham on 26th March 1901 by his mother Jessie Louise Palmer of 9 Adam Street Manchester Square.
My first question is, was the Mimosa Square address a maternity facility at the time of his birth?
How can I find Jessie in the 1901 census armed only with her name and address?
Regards
John Palmer
Mimosa is residential street with terraced properties on two stories some of which have a third storey added. On the 1901 census the house has a number of residents two of whom are described as ‘Nurses’ and the rest as patients. Three patients had babies with them (9 days, 3 days and 11 hours old) on census day. (NB Mimosa street is listed on the census in Fulham/South Fulham/District 8)
9 (Robert) Adam Street is just off Manchester Square in Marylebone. It is a large house and would almost certainly have supported domestic staff in 1901.
As you probably know there are many Jessie Palmers in the 1901 census and several of them are in south west London.
I suspect the most likely candidate is Jessie Palmer of 60 Davisville Road Hammersmith. This is a larger three storey terraced house which was then home to two large families. The Palmers and the Lefontes (?) (hard to read on the census).
Jessie was 21 and a housemaid (at 9 Adam Street?). Perhaps she came home to her parents before having her baby at 8 Mimosa Street and then giving him up for adoption.
I think that Jessie Palmer married a Francis Ernest Ball in 1902. She was described as a spinster.
If you have not yet joined a family history site such as Ancestry you should and you could then explore even more.
Basil, many thanks for your prompt reply to my enquiry. your message answers many questions and raises others. When I was unable to locate Jessie after she had registered my father’s birth I was concerned and wondered if she had died from complications after childbirth. My father lived a long and productive life, he died in Cheltenham in 1975 and I hope Jessie had similar good fortune.
I live in a retirement village in a suburb of Sydney Australia, recently the village started a genealogy group and two ladies who have experience with ‘Ancestry’ asked if they could assist in my search, they will be very interested in your response.
Thank you again for your help
Best wishes
John Palmer
Glad to be of help. Ancestry.com is set up to search for people not addresses so finding who lived at a particular property on a census day is not straightforward. My mother’s family were long time residents in Fulham so as I know the streets I knew where to look for Mimosa street. Most of London’s streets are unchanged from Victorian times (except those destroyed by bombs or slum clearance) so a good way to get a feel for a person is to find the property on Google maps. or one of the other property sites. If I can be of any further help to you or your friends at the village please email me on basilelaine@aol.com
Hello, my relatives lived in Hammersmith and Fulham for several generations. Their name was Gould, but for reasons unknown changed it to Golding in the 1861 census, and Goulding in the 1871.
They lived in Gales Cottages, Bradmore, Hammersmith, Orchard street, and also Lower Islington Terrace I was wondering if you have any images of any of these roads please as I have searched, and haven’t been able to find any.
My Gt Grandfather, George Gould, born in Hammersmith in 1847 joined the Royal Marines as a drummer boy age 13 and 9 months, he remained in the RM for 26 years. I have an incredibly well preserved picture of him taken in uniform, possibly around 1870, and his original record on parchment if you are interested.
Any help to build up a picture of where they lived would be much appreciated
Many Thanks,
Ursula
I am trying to trace my great, great grandfather Charles Jackson an African American who was born in America in 1848.
In the 1881 censor he lived in 9 St James Place, Kensington with his wife Anne and three children and was a labourer.
My great grandfather Christopher Jackson, his son, was born in 1879 and lived in Hammersmith and married Caroline, Kate Willis in 1898, he was a sewerman.
Any information about their lives, schools, occupations would be very very welcome.
Gini
Gini, this sounds like a very interesting story. I don’t think African Americans were common in London in those days. Do you know anything about Charles Jackson’s earlier life? And how he came to be in Kensington?
Hi Gini, I am currently working on a research project about the Latymer Foundation 1624-2024, and I have just found in the school records a mention of an Albert Jackson who was a charity pupil at the foundation, born Aug 19, 1867, could this be a relation?
I note you’ve mentioned Latymer records. Do they include school records for Latymer school? My great grandfather and his brother attended that school – so would I be able to find them in these records? Thank you. Ian
Thank you for your reply, unfortunately Albert Jackson born 1867 isn`t a relative.
My maternal grandfather, Christopher Jackson was born 25 Dec 1879 and had a brother Arthur Jackson, born in 1872 and a sister Florence born in1878, maybe they went to The Latymer Foundation? Their father Charles Jackson was African American but their mother Caroline Kate Willis was white.
They were all Christened together in The Church of St James, Norland on 25 December 1881.
My fathers family also came from Hammersmith and my father, Reginald John James Doel, born 6 March 1926, always said he went to Latymer College.
Gini
Can you advise whether if Avenue Road was changed to Sycamore Gardens
Thanks
Yes. I use this website for a quick check but for more detail you will need to get into a library or archive and look at the LCC list of road name approvals and changes.
Hi, my family lived in Cathnor road, my great grandfather was Charles Knight. His son George Victor Knight drowned in the Thames near Barnes in July 1921 aged 5. I’ve looked on FMP and not found any newspaper articles about this, and i’m also looking for the coroners inquest report using the details on his death certificate. Do you have any records on this event? Many thanks, Clodagh
Hi
One of my relatives Henry Morrell jumped off Hammersmith Bridge to save a young boy. I think they put a small brass plaque on the hand rail I think that was the Barnes side. I don’t know what the date was that it happened.
There is a brass plaque on the handrail on the west side of Hammersmith Bridge but it is for Charles Campbell Wood. He rescued a woman from the Thames around midnight on 27 December 1919. Sadly, during the rescue Charles received a serious head injury and as a consequence died of tetanus on 10 January 1920.
The London Metropolitan Archives has a research leaflet, it’s quite wordy, you may be out of luck. https://search.lma.gov.uk/rg_pdf_creator/index.php?research_guide=65 you could ask the Surrey History Centre at Woking about the inquest and the newspapers, the British Newspaper Archive may not have digitised any papers for that year and place yet.
has anyone on here got any info of the launch accident of hms Albion at the east end docks late 1800s.as my great grandmother was one of the poor souls that was tragically killed when the tempory viewing platform collapsed during the launch.
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 11:08 PM The Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society, wrote:
> Dawn Shilcock commented: “The London Metropolitan Archives has a research > leaflet, it’s quite wordy, you may be out of luck. > https://search.lma.gov.uk/rg_pdf_creator/index.php?research_guide=65 you > could ask the Surrey History Centre at Woking about the inquest and the > newspapers,” >
My uncle who lived in Hammersmith died in 2015, trying to contact his wife or daughter. His name was Cecil Narine Persaud. Wife is Jeannette, daughter is Jennifer. Loss contact. Would like to know where my uncle is buried.
The LBHF archives are closed at the moment but you could try cemeteries@lbhf.gov.uk but you would need to know the date of death. To find someone currently living you could try 192.com but they do charge a fee although you can search for free.
Good luck
Cecil & his family opted out of the electoral registers in 2002. They were last living at Elbe Street. It is possible the family are still there or may have even moved away. The current electoral registers are at the British Library, if you can’t get there, I will be there next Thursday and can check the address for you. However, I checked the death index and there is no entry for him in England 2015 +/- 2 years. Could he have died a different year or in another country?
Hi hello from Australia , im looking for any relevant information on my great grandparents , George Gordon and Sarah Gordon nee Aubon . They had a child also called George who was my grandfather. My grandfather George was born in 1862 he migrated to Australia and died in 1939.His father my great grandfather was born in 1812 and died in 1883 . Sarah Aubon Gordon was born was born as far as i can assertain in 1834 and may have died in 1867. Any information or suggestions of where i might find information would be mych appreciated. I have a feeling my great grandfather might have been a bricklayer as my grandfather George was a master bricklayer .
We have a great free resource here called http://www.freeBMD.org.uk which saves having to subscribe to Ancestry or FindmyPast. It starts with Death records in Sept 1837. Try this link. There is an entry for Sarah Gordon at Newington in the March quarter of 1867.
Surname Given Name Age District Volume Page Transcribers
Deaths Mar 1867
Gordon Sarah 62 Newington 1d 179 short_land
GORDON Sarah. 62 Newington 1d 179 Airlane1979
You do not say where your family came from so there could be loads of answers for GGF George Gordon. If you find the right death records you can apply for a copy of the death certificate which will usually record profession or work. You might have to sign up to ancestry as the easiest route. Census only got going in 1841 so not much help. If you know the area they lived in you will be able to contact the local archives to see if they have anything useful.
Good luck with your research.
The freebmd shows George married Sarah in 1857 in Peterborough. The GRO index (free) shows births of 1857 (no name), 1858 Hannah, 1859 Mary Elizabeth, 1861 George, all in Peterborough, 1863 Sarah Ellen in Clerkenwell London. A George Gordon died 1883 age 71 in Fulham. Census 1861 and 1871 via Ancestry or Findmypast may show more info. Good luck. E
Hello from Australia, I’m looking for information about a business that was on Lillee Rd in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s.
My Grandfather was an Apprentice to Mr Joseph Bickley, a Plasterer and Contractor between 1903 and 1910.
Does anyone know if this was a big business and was Mr Bickley in business for a long time.
Many thanks, I appreciate your help with this as I can’t get there to explore myself.
Unfortunately our borough archive is closed at present while they recruit a new archivist. The best thing i can do is point you to Leicester Uni online directories. I cannot find the business you mention in 1905 but you could check some other years.
Keep an eye on the LBHF.gov.uk website and make contact when they are open again archives@lbhf.gov.uk .
Good luck
I had family that lived on silvio Street Fulham from research I can not find it if anyone could help it would be much appreciated thanks in advance
This map from the National Library of Scotland will help. It is north of Lillie Road roughly where Virgin Active Gym and Pools are today. See also this from Faulkener’s Fulham Old and New, scroll to 26 or search with Ctrl f.
There should be some records and possibly a picture in archives@lbhf.gov.uk above Hammersmith Library.
It was bombed in 1944 and then demolished, it is now part of Norman Park on Lillie Road
I have photos of the bombed area
I lived in Ismaila Rd sw6 70 yrs ago and I was wondering in you had any history and pictures of area that i can show my grandchildren when talk to them about it.
Peter,
Whilst you may get some helpful replies from our followers, the best collection will be in the LBHF archives above the Hammersmith Library. The archivist can be contacted at archives@lbhf.gov.uk. There will be a charge for any copies or scans taken, but not much, there are photos from the 60’s for most streets and often earlier ones and other material such as press cuttings. So be specific about the house number (check electoral role on Ancestry or FindMyPast) and anything you remember such as shops etc that you would like pictures of.
Good luck.
Please could you tell me where the death records for 1931 for St Stephens hospital are kept. I am tracing my Grandmother who died after childbirth.
The National Archives have records for 1934 onwards.
Hello Joy
If the records survive, they may be at the London Metropolitan Archives. I had a look at their online catalogue but couldn’t find anything though. Your best bet would be to send them an email and ask https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/history-and-heritage/london-metropolitan-archives/about-lma/enquiry-service
However, the records for 1931 may be closed under their 100 year policy which restricts access so you may not get the information you are hoping to find. Let us know how you get on.
Dawn
Death certificate – order from GRO.
FreeBMD
I think that the St Stephens you refer to was probably in Chelsea and has morphed into Chelsea and Westminster across the Fulham Road. Your best bet is to contact the archives at RBKC. Email centrallocalenquiries@rbkc.gov.uk
Good luck with your research
I think the old St Stephen’s hospital was once the St George’s workhouse. Have you looked into finding the records for it?
I think the old St Stephens hospital was previously the St George’s Workhouse. Have you looked for the records for this.
I am looking for someone who knows about actors and the Theaters in Hammersmith and Fulham from 1880 to 1940. My great great uncle was born in 1870 Frederick William Goddard in Hammersmith. Any information actors lives around this time would be gratefuuly received.
I certainly know that there is a wealth of information in the archives of LBHF. They have a number of publications and some programmes probably mostly for the Lyric but I should start there. archives@lbhf.gov.uk and website.
Good luck with finding info, you may also be lucky and get a direct response to your query.
The Grand was built in 1897. Check out the arthurlloyd.co.uk website on theatres
I remember the Granville theatre in Walham Green in the 1950s. If you don’t already know old theatre programmes sometime come up on EBay. I have bought a few Chelsea Palace ones. Your great uncle might have appeared there.
Hi,
I’m not sure if you can help me, hopefully you can. I’m looking into my family history at the moment and my great grandfather was born at 19 Fulham Palace Road in approx 1888. This building seems to no longer exist, do you know if it was demolished and what year?
Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide.
Kind Regards,
Judging by the numbering of Fulham Palace Road today I would estimate that number 19 FPRd , which would have been on the East side of FPRd approximately under the southern end of the Hammersmith bus station mall. It would have disappeared when the original island was created and perhaps the Britannia public house no longer in existence was built, I.e.when the Hammersmith flyover it was built.
My GGrandparents, Harry and Jennie Randall, moved into 19 Fulham Place shortly after WWI. Their family is shown there on the 1921 census. Jennie ran it as a boarding house for medical students of St. Mary’s Hospital until she died in 1943. Her daughter Flossie continued running it.
The building was indeed demolished and it might well have been part of a redevelopment scheme.
What I do know for sure is from a letter my Auntie Jean sent to me 20 years ago, in answer to the same question. (She was living there during the Second World War). She wrote that an air raid bomb destroyed the entire block and put a wide crack up the side of the house. “That was the reason Fulham Place had to be demolished – the foundation had been made unstable”
hello, I am helping do a timeline for St Paul’s Church Hammersmith as our vicar is leaving. Is there any overall summary of key events from its beginnings to the C21st. we are focusing on the last 22 years but we wanted a bit about the history of the church included… i have the basics from its Chapel beginnings to the new Gothic structure of today – if you could point me in the direction of anything particularly regarding what happened in first and second world wars… thanks! Sarah Rutherford
The local archive above Hammersmith Library will have an extensive collection of photos and parish magazines. I believe there are also some books on the church, it will certainly be mentioned in the local histories and Pevsner.
Does your society cover the W10/11 area? My main areas of research are around Southam Street, Norland Road and Royal Crescent Mews.
These streets are in W11, and are in the Royal Borough ofKensington and Chelsea
Two relatives of mine died at the Nazareth Hospice in Hammersmith Road in late 1943
Lucy Ann Greenwood, born 1853, died 6 December 1943 and
Mary Greenwood, born 1859, died 10 December 1943.
The Nazareth Hospice has no record of their burial. They were the last of their family so there was noone to arrange for their burial elsewhere. Do you have burial records covering this period in the area?
Thanks
Hello John
In the first instance contact the cemetery office for Hammersmith and Fulham asking if they can check their records for the burials. Please give the full names, dates and place of death. The council may have provided a public health funeral if there were insufficient funds to cover the costs. Please note that the office are responding to a large number of family history enquiries on top of the recently bereaved so they may take a couple of weeks to get back to you. I put in a request on 29th December and have only just had a reply. https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/births-deaths-and-marriages/deaths/cemeteries-and-burials
Public burial records are generally held at the Archives (archives@lbhf.gov.uk) but as a Catholic organisation it is possible that your relatives were buried by the local Catholic church and they often retain records at the church. However do try the archives as they will have more knowledge.
There is a large Catholic cemetery at Kensal Green, where most of Catholics of West London are buried.
I am trying to discover more about Flora Gardens Boys’ School which my father in law attended in the 1920s. Was it on the site of the present Primary School? Many thanks
Cadby Hall
My grandmother worked in the Lyon’s offices at Cadby Hall for many years. I was invited to a staff childrens party in the early 1950’s to see Roy Rogers and Trigger, it was very exciting, he mounted the stage on his horse and sang for us. Can you tell me what year that was?
Many thanks
Sue Shilson
I was a young child in early 1950’s and remember I had a signed photograph of Roy Roger’s on Trigger, and a photograph of his wife Dale Evans. I am going to check the newspapers in due course but I was suspect that he was appearing at Olympia possibly in the circus at Christmas time it was Bertram Mills circus and was asked to do a special event at Cadbury Hall next door.
1969 I was 10 As a child I would go to kings st movies actually we called it Saturday morning pictures the cinema was on the corner, had a balcony , set between ravens court and Hammersmith. What was the theatre called ? The episodes of Flash Gordon and the lassie movies were my favorite. My parents lived in Chiswick all there lives .
Think it was the Regal, and another on Hammersmith Broadway called the Broadway?? I remember how noisy it was until the films started!
Hello. I am trying to find the name of a Gentlemens’ outfitters on King Street, Hammersmith in the 1920s, beginning with M. Would be grateful if anyone knows of one. It looks like Meakers or Mealers or Meachers on the 1921 census. Thank you to anyone who can help. K
Street directories will help. If you cannot get into LBHF archive in Hammersmith Library then you could use Leicester Uni’s online directories, but be warned it is a bit clunky so you have to get used to it. If as you imply people lived there then you could also search electoral registers (men only) for the period in the archives again or on FindMyPast or Ancestry (generally free in local libraries all over the country).
Good luck in your research.
Hi, I’m pretty sure it was Meakers, other than that I can’t help I’m afraid
Hi can I see any footage of the jubilee street party in prothero rd Fulham my nan & gran dad lived there thankyou
Hi
Your best bet would be to visit or contact the local archive in Hammersmith Library (archives@lbhf.gov.uk). They have folders for most streets and if lucky these can contain both photos and press cuttings. The other approach is to subscribe to the Britsh Libraries newspapers online (see their website), the local papers will have featured the more photogenic parties.
I have found a photograph of South Western Maternity Home, 302 Fulham Palace Road, taken in the 1930’s amongst my grandmothers effects. She was nursing at that time and could have worked or trained there. Can anyone give me any information on this home please.
This was part of the old workhouse on Fulham Palace Road. in the 1930’s it could no longer cope if there were more than 4 imminent births at a time, and was replaced by the Parsons Green Maternity hospital bythe Fulham Council in 1937. There is a brief mention in Medicine in the Parish of Fulhamfrom 14th century: Fullham hospital 1884-1959 by Arthur Wyman. See above under publications link for details and availability.
Hello Dawn,
My father was born in the South Western Maternity Home, 302 Fulham Palace Road on 18 November 1922.
Is it please possible to email me a picture of the Maternity Home in the 1930’s. Many thanks. Steve
HI
I was looking for information about a site in Fulham (on Lillies Road, possibly) being rented to showpeople around Feb 1923. It sounds like a Country Fair may have been part of this. My grandfather was born there at that time but I’ve struggled to learn any more about it.
Many thanks
Nick
This is from wikipedia. The ground may well have been the Earls Court exhibition site.
the Earls Court Exhibition Centre was a major international exhibition and events venue just west of central London. At its peak it is said to have generated a £2 billion turnover for the economy. It replaced exhibition and entertainment grounds, originally opened in 1887, with an art moderne structure built between 1935 and 1937 by specialist American architect C. Howard Crane., which was pulled down again in 2017, and land is now again wasteland.
I’m looking to trace an old school friend Margaret Hayes who lived at 55 Iffley Road Hammersmith W6. We left London oratory school in 1967. Over the years I tried writing to Margaret at Iffley Road to no avail. Is there any chance your historians could help find out when she left Iffley road and where she moved to. I know she wanted to study nursing. I know it’s a long shot bro any help you can give woukd be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much
Hi Cathie, the electoral register for 1965, the last year online at Ancestry, show Michael & Margaret Hayes (parents?) at 88 Iffley Road, there were other voters at 55. MA Hayes at 88 Iffley Road can then be found in the phone book again online at Ancestry upto 1977 but not 1979, 1978 is missing. It’s really difficult then connecting a possible marriage for her as we don’t know where the family went after that. There are deaths in Surrey in 1983 and 1985 for Michael Anthony or Michael Albert Hayes in Surrey but no way of knowing if this is the correct family or not. Maybe someone with more knowledge of facebook groups or social media can suggest other places to post your message bearing in mind lots of groups don’t allow searching for living people. Hope this helps.
Hello Cathie Edwards,
Dawn is correct, Maggie lived with her sisters, Mary & Therese and younger brother Michael at 88 Iffley Rd, Hammersmith.
Maggie went on to complete her nurse training and migrated to Australia in the late 80’s.
My connection to Maggie is thru her sister Therese. Maggie is my sister-in-law and Therese and I married almost 40 years ago. We also live in Perth, Australia and see Maggie regularly.
You can send an email to calumandtess@gmail.com and I would be happy to pass it on.
Best regards,
Calum
Hello,
I am seeking information about the former partner of my grandmother. His name was Ron. He lived in Sterndale Road W14 in the mid to late 60s, and sadly committed suicide in 1968/9. He was found by a young policeman: he had hung himself somewhere by the river.
I have recently come across a photo of him holding me when I was a baby, and a letter he wrote, and I would love to discover more. Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated.
Many thanks x
Hi Jay, the electoral registers are only online upto 1965. There were 2 Ronalds in Sterndale Road in 1965 but their names dont match with the death index and you don’t give an estimation to his age. You can do free searches at http://www.freebmd.org.uk if you search from 1965 to 1970, don’t put in a surname, put in a first name and select Hammersmith, Fulham and Chelsea district from the drop down boxes. Do the search to see if there are any names you recognise. You could also check newspapers at the Hammersmith & Fulham local studies library. An inquest may have made the news if it was considered newsworthy.
i understand my grandfather was a car mechanic in Britannia road Fulham in 1921 i would like to know what garages were around then Please
Hello,
I wonder if you can help me.
My Grandparents were married in 1919 at The United Methodist Church Walham grove Fulham. The marriage certificate indicates their address was 19 Hilmer Street Fulham London.
On the 1921 Census just released they were living at 69 Hilmer Street Fulham London.
I cannot seem to locate Hilmer Street and was wondering if it as been renamed ?
Also does anyone have any photos they can send me?
Les, Hilmer Steet was in the W14 (West Kensington) area of Fulham that later made way for the Gibbs Green Housing Estate. Just off the right hand side of North End Road, close by the West Kensington Estate.
Hello Mark, Thankyou for the information. I was not aware of that and will have a look on some maps to see what I can find.
Hello Mark, Thankyou for the information. I was not aware of that. I will have a look on some local maps.
Hello Mark, Thankyou for the information. I was not aware of that. I will have a look on some local maps
Hi Les, Ancestry have the electoral registers, the addresses upto number 14 were there in 1961 in the Barons Court ward of Fulham constituency. 16-50 were listed in 1957 but not 1958
Hello Dawn, Thankyou for the information. I will have a look on Ancestry.
PAGE RUMSEY BURR STARE
I am looking for help to find any relatives of Edwin William James Burr & Gladys Violet Burr nee Stare. I have found some documents and photographs from when the Burr family lived in the Hammersmith and Shepherds Bush area of London.
Most of the items relate to the Page family. Harriet Emily Page nee Philips seems the most likely to have made an impact locally on history. She was married to Edwin William Page. She owned a laundry at 60 Hayden Park Rd which was obviously successful by the contents of her will.
Also her daughter Alice Jane Rumsey (1st marriage Burr) plus family of Charles and Sarah Stare.
More details available
If there is no living family, is there anywhere else, do you know, that I could find a home for any of the photographs etc
Hi Irene
I recently had a similar situation. A batch of photos and documents relating to a Shepherd’s Bush family came into my possession. Initially I posted details on the Facebook group ‘You’re Probably from W12 if…………….’.You could join the group and post details, or I could do it for you (you can contact me via the group). Unfortunately I had no success in finding any relatives, so I passed everything to LBHF Archives who were happy to add them to their collection.
Peter
thank you for replying. I am afraid I am not good with social media. I have an excel list of items I have got. I will have a look to see what I can manage with Facebook.. My daughter will be coming at the end of January, she lives in North Wales so its a 5/6 hour journey. I will get her to look up the group you mention and try and upload the list. What is the group you mention that took the items from you.
Peter I think I have managed to apply to join the Facebook group you suggested. If it works I will be impressed with myself Irene
Hi Irene Yes you are now a member of the Facebook Group. I have messaged you via the Group.
I’m looking for information or pictures of the Fish and Chip shop at 3 Greyhound Road, Fulham in the 1920’s. The owner at the time was my great, great grandfather Frederick Murrell. Any help would be much appreciated.
One of our followers may have a photo for you but I would recommend visiting the LBHF archives in Hammersmith Library or contacting the archivist on archives@lbhf.gov.uk they have a wealth of information including photos although it is down to luck whether the property you are after is included most streets were rephotoed in the sixties. There will also be street directories that may be useful, of course electoral registers and the newly released 1921 census could be useful.
Good luck with your research.
At the start of WW2 the name of the shop was Popular fisheries Ltd.. Even today there is an excellent fish and chip shop there called Ocean fresh
Women did not have the vote until 1920.
Hi I’m a friend of someone who’s husband lost both parents in around the 1930s both were hairdressers in vera road Fulham and had a salon on that street ,, they were both killed in an air raid shelter and left behind one 5 year old son , the surname is dickens , any information would be greatly appreciated , kind regards Tina
On the 1921 census my Grandfather registered the address of his employer as Gray hound Road (i presume Greyhound Road Hammersmith ) and the employers as J Lyons Ltd. Can you tell me where on Greyhound Road this would have been? Many thanks.
112 Greyhound road was described as J. Lyons General engineers. It was located between Garvan and Tasso Toad.Today this is approimately opposite Margravine road, and has all been dvepoed a a new housing estate
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.48618,-0.213793,243.68h,4.73p,1.17z,WLwxkCQd_WHgCvdQt5M0Iw
Thank you so much for the information on J.Lyons in Greyhound Road. I’m very grateful.
Are you able to give me any information on the Convent of the Good Shepherd Convent in Fulham Palace Road please? I have a relative who was there in 1921.
There’s a history of the order here to get you started, depends on what you are looking for https://chestofbooks.com/food/household/Woman-Encyclopaedia-1/Religion-The-Convent-Of-The-Good-Shepherd.html
Dear Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society, I am fascinated with lost and forgotten females, in a historical sense. I write for the enjoyment of discovery of their lives and the bigotry/racism of the times and, what they had to endure to survive.I am writing about EDMONIA “WILDFIRE” LEWIS, a once famed international sculptor, who made her name in Rome.Her maternal heritage was the 1st Nation Ojibwe-paternal was African. I have an address but not the duration of residence, I believe she passed-away here as well. The address I have is :154 Blythe Road W14 0HD.I was just wandering if you could confirm or deny her residency.I write my pieces on LinkedIn + Facebook.Thank you for your valuable time and experience.Paul Tuley. PS. You did help me with Adelaide Hall, late last year.
She was in London for the 1901 census but not Hammersmith. I’m not surprised she doesn’t appear in the electoral registers being a foreign woman. I don’t think it is really possible to determine how long she was at that address. Maybe contact Hammersmith Archives to see if they can help with maybe rent books etc. There is an entry in the probate calendar but not obviously in the death index for Sept 1907.
Hi Paul
Glad we helped in the past.
Have checked free BMD and there is no record of death in that name between 1901 and 1956.
the newly released 1921 census could help.
It could be worth contacting the archive on archives@lbhf.gov.uk, I can’t see anything in the online catalogue but there are other resources and there was a strong women’s movement.
You could also contact the Emery Walker Society as he was prominent amongst the arty community and his daughter Dorothey continued in the house after his death. She is known to have kept diaries so there might be some mention of her.
Good luck
Good luck.
Hi, I am looking for information on Parkside Maternity Home in Hammersmith – circa 1920. Do you know where I can find information on this. I understand it was near Ravenscourt Park – possibly the site of Parkside?
Jackie Saddington
I have been researching Parkside Maternity Home as my grandma was born there in 1919. I have found out a fair amount of information.
I have a book of my great grandmothers from 1906….she has written her address inside as Wilton Road, Shepherds Bush but I cannot locate this road on current maps and nothing found from online searches. Can you help me locate where this road was and when it ‘disappeared’? Thanks
Try this:
Wilton road East Askew crescent Hammersmith pre 1912
Wilton road West (part) Askew crescent Hammersmith pre 1912
Wilton road West (part) St. EImo road Hammersmith 1912-17
From this website
Thank you so much this was a great help. I have found the actual house on Askew Crescent (from Street view) which matches a photo I have of the facade of the house from an old family photo album from the early 1900s! Amazing!
Hi Looking for information about Eliza Burgess who lived at 67 Moore Park Road, Fulham in 1939.
She was my 2nd cousin twice removed.
Thanks
Hi David, so we don’t duplicate what you already know, what sort of information are you looking for? According to the 1939 register, she was widowed, born 1851 and was living with Alice Burgess.
On the morning of22nd December 2000 I was working just off the NorthEnd Road market but couldn’t drive there as the whole of North End Road was closed off to traffic by police. I had to park my van and walk to the job. The reason for the closure was a multi-vehicle accident about halfway up the market stretch of NER involving a lorry, a coach and several cars /vans. one car was crushed under the front of the coach, another jammed on its roof between the coach and the buildings.It looked like a multiple moterway pile up. I never found out what happened despite scanning the local paper and askig everyone i knew or worked for in the area for years after. Did I just dream this??? Does ANYBODY remember and have any idea what caused it?
Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Paula Maguire an I am doing an MA in Film Curation and Programming at Birkbeck University. I am currently doing a study on the cinema at Riverside Studios and was wondering if you have any archive or current material that may be of interest.
If you have, I would be so grateful if you could let me know.
Many Thanks,
Paula Maguire
Have you contacted the new Riverside organisation?
Also would recommend a visit to the LBHF archives above Hammersmith Library. They have extensive records and photos of the area. I don’t know whether they have any records of Riverside studios but it would be a good place to start.
I’m presently researching the O’CONNER family. The 1901 census has them living in Home Cottages, Distillery Lane, Fulham. The 2 brothers live next door to each other and are Greengroceers. I have the map of the time, but it only shows houses in Distillery land, but not which are Home Cottages. I have a photo of the Rifle PH on the corner (1925) but am looking for any pics of the houses in Distillery lane. They are Greengrocers, but cannot find any shop, wre they prehaps stall holders somewhere. Any guidence on where to get further info on this area around 1900’s would be appreciated, I’ve searched Ancestry etc, but cannot find the 1911 census for this address. Thank you in anticipation. Reagrds, David
Since you asked David there was/is a well known street market in North End Road Fulham where there were many greengrocer stalls.
Thank you.
Hello David, the North End Road Street market is still there, market traders (greengrocers) with a long history there, often post on a Facebook Page called: I Grew Up in Fulham (2) https://www.facebook.com/groups/461220798516186/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=621470682491196#
Maybe post a message on that site, this group also post a lot of old photos of the area you are interested in.
Thank you, I’ll give it a try.
Hi David, was Distillery Lane in the Sands End area? I can’t find it on my old map of Fulham.
It’s at the Hammersmith end of F P Road
Lesley 👍
Oh yes, I had just found it. thanks Len.
There was also a small street market at the Shepherds Bush end of King Street, Hammersmith. I think, from memory, there were some greengrocer stalls.
Given the location, they are far more likely to have been atthe Hammersmith market. Some NERd stall holders did have lockups along the Greyhound roud, which connects Fulham Palace Road with North End Road though. Any way to return to Home Cottages the 1939 Local KelleysRecords the North side of Distillary lane as having Nos 1-12 as a consecutive sequence, Then 4,3, and !&2, then Distillers Co., and the Carbon Dioxide Co.
There was a James O’Conner and sons at the start of the war listed as Haulage contractors and removals at 40 Disbrowe Road, now this is near NEnd Rd. Possibly related and a move from Greengrocers to haulage due to war? perhaps
Thank you for taking the trouble to respond. I’ve always assumed that the 4 houses nearest the Rifle PH were Home cottages, because they looked different from the others, but looking again at the 1895 map, I can see that the 4 nearest the distillery are smaller.
The O’CONNERS I am researching the 2 brothers Timothy Edward died 1904, his wife 1903 and all the daughters went into Nazareth House. James died 1910 and his wife moved to Barb Mews, Brook Green.
Thank you again, Regards, David
Here is a map of the area.
Also this blog contains a typical picture.
Thank you for the trouble you have taken. The map is a little old, but it does highlight the fact that Home Cottages must have been built between 1866 and 1895. I have an old map of 1895 showing the cottages. I also have found a photo of the Rifle PH in 1925 where you can just see the houses in Distillery Lane. I see your point about Hammersmith market, I didn’t realise just how close to Hammersmith Home Cottages were.
Thanks again
David
This is a the same area 6″ OS for 1920s. This one is 1930s
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am tramscribing my Grandfathers memoirs. He was born in 1908 and talks of moving to an area in Hammersmith called ‘Wooden Bridge’. It was between the Hammersmith Bridge and the ‘New’ Town Hall. He says it was a rough area called (I think it reads) Water loo Square, but this may not be correct. It is definately Water but unsure of the other words. The area is no longer there, which makes me think it was alongside the old Hammersmith Creek and is now Furnivall Gardens.
I wonder if you have any info on this place, or have heard of the name?
Looking forward to your reply.
Regards,
Marion
I forgot to mention the time frame. My Grandfather was living at ‘Wooden Bridge’ between1912 and 1915, as his father joined the RFA in 1915 to go to WW1.
Probably Waterloo Street. You can see it on this map: https://maps.nls.uk/view/101201937
Hi, looking at the A-Z of Victorian London (1888). North of Hammersmith Bridge is Bridge Road.To the left of Bridge Road via Bridge Street and across Mall Road is a triangle of streets – George Street, Waterloo Street and another one I can’t read. Very near the river. This could be what you are looking for.
Regards, Lesley
Waterloo Street was named renamed as Macbeth St.. The Wooden Bridge, is most likely the one marked on the map as High Bridge, it crossed the Hammersmith Creek near the Thames, and had to be high so boats could pass underneath. There are a number of photes to be found of the bridge etc. in local history publications and at the library.
Looking to find anyone related to Elizabeth Mary Irene Robison, was married to Michael Pyke. Please reach out. Would love to thank them for all the pictures Michael loaded of my mom and grandparents.
I wonder if you can assist me?
I have been asked to find any information concerning an event that happened in Fulham Palace Road when the headteacher of St Peter School fell off a tram and died. This occurred in 1929. Sorry I have no other information.
David Whitaker
Please can you tell me whether you hold any information on residents of 67 Edith Road W14 in April 1939?
I believe my father may have lived at this address for a while after arriving in England as a refugee at the end if March that year.
Thank you.
Michael
the answer will almost certainly be in the 1939 Register of civilian population. You’ll probably have to sign up to FindMyPast or Ancestry or go into a public library as most have one of these available for free. You might belucky and a kind soul seeing this post may look it up for you so hold off signing up for a few days.
Good luck with your research.
I have looked on Find My Past. The 1939 Census was taken in September that year just after war broke out. I suspect that your father had already moved on however I can tell you that there were three people living at number 67 Edith Road in 1939 Ethel Gardner-Smith aged 52 was a Fashion Artist. Reginald Bourne was an Auditor in the Civil Service. His wife Dulcie is marked UDD which stands for ‘Unpaid Domestic Duties’
Interestingly next door at Number 69 lived William Kaye who was a Senior Immigration Officer. I wonder if this man knew that his neighbours had a spare room for your father? Sorry I can’t give you a comprehensive answer.
Thank you so much for your replies.
The context is that my father arrived in the UK on 31 March 1939 as a Jewish refugee from the Sudetenland in what had been Czechoslovakia from where he had fled in the immediate aftermath of the Munich Agreement. I know that he spent some time in London but I know nothing about his circumstances at the time. He moved later in 1939 to Belfast and worked in the linen industry. The stay in London is a bit of a gap. All know is his address which I found in a letter written by the National Council for Civil Liberties on h behalf in a vain attempt to rescue a friend trapped in Nazi Europe.
Greetings and such a joyous Historical Society.
I am trying to locate the residence of a certain Adelaide Hall singer/actress, I am just writing an article in LinkedIn.com about her. I have discovered she lived in Fulham from ~1980 until her passing. But am unable to discover where she lived. Could you possibly help? She would have been alone, as her husband Bertram died in 1963. Thank you for your time and patience.
Hi Paul, you would need a copy of her death certificate for that information. She died at Charing Cross hospital though. The London electoral registers aren’t online between 1965 and 2002. In 1965 she was registered at Collingham Road, Kensington London SW5. You can order the cert from the General Register Office online at http://www.gro.gov.uk, you need to register for a free account, her death is registered under the surname Hall-Hicks.
Dear Dawn, thank so very much for all the information, the extra info is a great bonus as well. I am not after any sort of paperwork. I just for my own interest, wandered if the info I had was correct. I just do it for an extended article I write on Facebook titled “The Lost Worlds of Forgotten Females.” Alongside the article I write on Linkedin.com. I am just doing a collection of jazz singers, which included Adelaide, her married name was Hicks, as she married a Trinidadian sailor named Bertram Errol Hicks-1924. Once again thank s for your mighty effort.
Paul.
Hi Paul, just found an entry in the probate calendar under Hicks, her address is given as 5A Fairholme Road, West Kensington, W14. You can apply for a copy from HMCTS, only costs £1.50 https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=hicks&yearOfDeath=1993&page=2#calendar
Great detective work Dawn thankyou for keeping these pages alive and meaningful.
John
Hi
I am looking for the birth certificate and/or baptism record of Charles Fair, a shoemaker, who was born in Fulham somewhere between 1840 – 1845. His father was Henry Fair who was deceased as of 1864 when Charles got married in 1865. Any help would be appeciated!
Try free BMD here This birth is in East London could that be your man? It is the only entry in the period you specify. More digging I am afraid.
Good luck with your research.
Kensington was the registration district for Fulham 1837-1875. Found two possibilities:
Charles Fairs – Kensington Vol 3 Pg 201 Qtr 3 1839
Charles Farr – Kensington Vol 3 Pg 202 Qtr 4 1839
I have searched the records on Ancestry and FM Past. On the 1851 census Henry is living in Bromley St Mary. Charles is listed as 6 years old which puts his birth as 1844/45 however Charles and his siblings are recorded as being born in Brentwood Essex. I have not tracked down his birth/baptism but there is the one in East London mentioned by fhhs but there other candidates. His father moved around a bit!
Henry and Charles appear on a few existing family trees (on Ancestry) one of which I assume is yours but if not you could contact the tree owners. None have evidence of Charles’ exact date of birth
Hello, I am trying to find out more about the building which is now the L’Ecole des Petits school in Hazelbury Road. My interest is that my mother was part of the ceremonies when in July 1931 it was inaugurated by The Duchess of York as the Princess Beatrice Social Centre. My mother was Irene Field and lived at 1 Hazelbury Road. My elder brother says that he remembers our father working in that building – probably in the 1950s. I would like to find out the various uses and occupants of the building from it’s completion through to the preset day. Thank you.
Alan
I feel sure that all the information you seek will be revealed at the LBHF archives above Hammersmith Library. Do contact the archivist at archives@lbhf.gov.uk, she will likely have photographs of the building, there will probably be council minutes or papers. There are also all the local papers on microfiche in which a Royal visit is bound to be covered. If you are not local then contact all the smae and ask for assistance. There will be charges for any copying or scanning of photos and perhaps you could use the British Library’s Newspaper Archive online to look at the West London Observer or the Fulham Chronicle, might even be in the times.
Good luck with your search.
Thank you for this. I live in Yorkshire so will contact them by phone and see where that leads me.
I believe Diana Princess of Wales shared a flat opposite this address for a brief period, before her engagement was announced
Hi Alan I lived in Oakbury Road just off Hazlebury from 1945 to around 1974. I used to walk past that building frequently. I recall that it was always a dance school all the years that I remember. It was quite a prominent dance school in Fulham but the name escapes me at present. They gave performances in Fulham Town Hall and at Bishops Park theatre. I’m sure they figured in The Fulham Chronicle quite frequently.
Thanks for that information.
I believe Diana Princess of Wales also lived in a flat opposite this address briefly.
Having been a resident of Sands End at the time I believe your understanding to be incorrect. It was known that the Duke of Wellington’s daughter Lady Jayne Wellesley lived for a while in Hazlebury Road and that Prince Charles car could be seen outside from time to time.
Hi. I have an ancestor who was a Master Tailor in Fulham round about 1810. His name was George Charles and I am wondering if he owned a shop for his work and if there could be any information about this person on record. Many thanks.
Hi. Try Google earth for pictures of the Gates. If that helps.
Am trying to gather more information about the death of my great grandfather Frederick James Dale (1871-1908). I’ve been told he worked with the early gas lamps and was killed during an accident at work but have no details of his exact death date, how exactly he died and where and when he was buried. The whole Dale family lived around Fulham and Chelsea and I know in 1901 he lived in Riley Street. How could I discover any more details ?
Hi
If you have access to Ancestry or FindmyPast you can search for your ggf and find the exact date of death. Alternatively FreeBMD gives you the same info for free. Then you can go to the British Library site and for a small subscription join their newpaper archive where you will be able to search the local papers for details. It takes a bit of time but usually gets results.
You could go into the LBHF Archives and search there they have the West London Observer and Fulham Chronicle on Microfiche and you could also chekout photographs of the street where they lived and get more family details from census and electoral registers.
Good luck with your search.
A quick search of FreeBMD this morning shows that his death was registered at Chelsea in the first quater of 1908 ie Jan/Feb/Mar. This may be enough for a newspaper search but if you have a look it gives you the details of the register so that you can request the death certificate to get exact date, cause of death and who registered it. If you are local do get in touch with the archive and book a visit.
Good luck.
Hello, I’m looking for information on the building of North Sheen Cemetery (formerly Fulham New Cemetery) in 1909, particularly the gates. Would you have any details of this, or know where I might find any information, please? Thank you.
Wikipedia has a brief entry if you look up Fulham new cemetery a name which the cemetry now located in East sheen has been known by since 1909.The best place to check would be the Hammersmith archives department but if they have no further information about the gates they may be able to contact the town halls archive records concerning the construction.. The council minutes of that timemay also have some details if a report was commissioned when the gates were built.
Does anyone have any historical information about 1 friston st, Fulham SW, the woodages lived there for years. Thank you.
Hi Julie, so we don’t duplicate what you already know, have you found the property in the censuses? have you found the address in electoral registers? when were the Woodage’s living there? What ‘sort’ of historical information are you looking for?
Hi Dawn, I’m looking for any info at all. There were there from about 1901 to 1970’s. They lived across the street from a couple named Nancy and Bill. My sister went to a school within walking distance in 1964 or so and I’d like to see pics of that school. Thank you for your quick response.
Good morning
I’m writing a book on the history of London pub names and the stories behind them. I know the Hampshire (formerly Hampshire Hog) was named after the Royal Hampshire Regiment, but does anyone know the reason why? I couldn’t see it mentioned in Chris Amies excellent book on pubs in the Borough.
Many thanks!
A nickname for someone born in Hampshire is a “Hampshire Hog”,I f you visit the Hampshire Council Offices in Winchester there’s a rather beautiful carving of a large stylised hog in the foyer. I think it might be by Eric Gill.
Best wishes,
Chris.
Hello,
I am am searching for the military number for a Thomas Jones. He lived at the War seal mansions ( accomodation for injured servicemen) for a number of years in the 1930’s. I’m hoping to find records of the War seal Mansions that has information about the Servicemen that lived there in the hope it may provide his service number in the records. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards from Australia
War Seal Mansions is now known as the Oswald Stoll Trust try this link. There is also an entry in Wikipedia. Try writing to them in the first place but i believe some records are held at the borough archives in Hammersmith library contact archives@lbhf.gov.uk.
I presume that you have tried Ancestry or FindMyPast for records at the National Archive at Kew, however I can believe how difficult this might be with the surname Jones. Do you know regiment, that might help your search and there could be regimental archives too.
Good luck in your search
Thank you so much for your reply, I will contact the archives with details you have provided. Very much appreciated!
Ancestry are currently giving free access to their military records. If you have his date and place of birth or other identifying information you should easily be able to find his service number.
Hi Peter,
I have Ancestry subscription, but haven’t had any luck. Born 1893/1894 but have no idea of his place of birth or enlistment place / date.
Hi Kristie,
Further to the earlier posts there are several avenues that could be useful to find your man. One not yet mentioned is ‘Forces war Records’ which not only has names and numbers but in some cases associated references.
As you probably know there are several dozen Thomas Jones’ so without some other information its pot luck. If you know his full name, his regiment, his date of birth his home town or any other family related stuff it will be easier to track him down. If you post this detail here I will be happy to spend some time digging into the facts.
Alternatively that web site offers some limited free access
Good luck
Hi Basil, Thank you for your interest. I have very little to go on. I’m working off the details I have on a marriage certificate. His name is Thomas Jones married Winifred Martha Ferris at St Mary’s church Putney on the 27th of January 1918. His age is noted as 24 ( so assuming he was born 1893 or prior to January 27 1894) he is noted as soldier and father is Samuel Jones a Collier. The next information I have is that he and his wife are both living at 92 war seal mansions with their children from 1929- 1932.
Last child born in Fulham in 1933 and then both he and his wife show up at Carshalton Surrey in the 1933 electoral role and then no record of him after that.
I assumed there would be a military pension record for him, considering that he lived at War seal mansions, which I believe was for injured servicemen. But haven’t had any luck finding it on Anceatry. If I can find his military number and reoord I’m hoping it might lead me to his parents siblings and birthplace.. any help would be amazing!
i note you have access to Ancestry so can you find the children in the 1939 Register – their marriage is listed as Wandworth. Do you have names of their children and particularly the last one born in 1933. I was going to say order his Marr cert as that might have details of his Military Service but I note you have it. With surname Jones and Father a Collier that would seem like from Wales.
Good luck!
Hi again Kristie,
I have spent a little time looking at various web sites and records. First of all there might not be a war pension to trace. At the end of WW1 soldiers had the option of taking a small pension or a lump sum instead. My own Grandfather did this and soon married Grandma to start a new life. My research has established that the lump sum was the more popular choice unless the soldier had been badly hurt making work impossible. I used to visit the Oswald Stone Mansions in the 1960s and most residents were perfectly healthy.
I have had no luck with his army number but I have found a family tree on Ancestry run by carolcornell100 which has lots of information about Thomas but nothing military (he came from Leigh in Lancashire and died in 1937). Perhaps this is your tree but if not you could message the tree owner. If you have trouble finding it search for Winifred Martha Ferris putting in her marriage date, husbands name and other info.
On the military front your best bet might be using the Fold3 web site which holds a lot of information.
I am currently researching my father’s family history. Could you please tell me where Fulham Mortuary was in the early 1900s? My paternal grandfather is listed as the Mortuary Keeper on the 1911 census living at 9 Branksea Street. The present Mortuary is near the Thames at Townmead Road, which is quite a distance from Branksea Street. Was there another one then?
Hi Andrew, 1911 Kelly’s Directory for West Kensington Fulham and Walham Green lists Fulham Mortuary & Coroners Court between 259 and 287 Munster Road, adjacent to Fulham Cemetery
Hi Dawn Thank you for your prompt reply and the information. This makes the location much closer to where my grandfather was living at the time. Regards Andrew
Hi Dawn I thought I had replied to you yesterday but cannot find my reply. Thanks for the information, however I have had a reply from Keith Whitehouse who gives another address in Fulham Palace Road south of the Guiness Trust Buildings. I am not familiar with Kelly’s Directories. My grandfather Henry Goulden was the Fulham mortuary keeper for over 10 years until his death in January 1924.
Hi Andrew, I saw your replies. If you don’t have an Ancestry account to see the street directories, try the original site at Leicester
University
https://le.ac.uk/library/special-collections/explore/historical-directories Narrow down by London or Middlesex when you’ve got a date range sorted. You should be able to find both addresses
Hi Dawn Once again thanks for the information. I obviously need to hone my Ancestry skills. I have however found the Munster Road address in a Kelly’s Directory using the link to Leicester Uni you gave me.
Hi is this the deaf school in Ackmar Road?
Hi Ian,
No. Mr Michael Myer Read (1913-1999), a teacher at Ackmar Road Primary School for the Deaf, left to set up this PDU in 1948 where partially deaf children from Ackmar Road Primary School were transferred to this unit. Later Mr Read was appointed as H.M. Inspector for L.C.C. Deaf Schools.
I am seeking information about Holman Hunt (Partially Hearing Unit) School, New Kings Road, Fulham which was attached to the Board School from around 1947 when it was opened to about 1970s when the unit closed down. Any information, teachers, pupils, photos, etc would be greatly received.
I went to St Peter’s Primary, Hammersmith in the 70’s. As I remember it we had a panoramic photograph taken of the whole school to commerate the Silver Jubilee in 1977. I am trying to track down that photograph. The school has nothing pre mid 80’s. can anybody help? Here’s hoping. Best Lee
Hi, I was born in Bracewell Rd W10. and seem to remember that the dustman who cleared our rubbish bins came from Hammersmith, yet the boundary map shows North Kensington. this I believe was also the case in Latimer rd too, was there a change in the boundaries? if so ,when….
Thanks Ken Rumsey
I am looking for any information about the Lenny, Lenny or Lennie families also does anyone know the following Roads.
Terrace Road I think near to Standish Road and
Oak Terrace near to Margravine Road
Many thanks
Paul
Hi
This is my go to site for street names as a quick check but neither appears. So I expect the best answer is a visit to the archives at Hammersmith Library where they will have the electoral registers and census so you can check for the names. There is also an LCC volume on authorised street names that includes more information such as those terraces or blocks that were incorporated into street or road addresses. There are a number of street directories that could help too. By the way there is a “Beaconsfield Terrace Road” in brook Green which might be one of them. You don’t give a period so hard to judge where to look.
Good luck with your search.
Morning, i occupy the Grage in Bramber Road W14 9PB, i understand from my Landlord that the garage was originally in 1896 a trolley bus depot. Can you let me have any info regarding this.Happy to pay for someones time. Thanks Geoff
My name is Larry Stevens and there is a post on your site looking for the children of Valarie Stevens and I am one of her son’s.
I have notified Tracey. (post of 17 Jan)
Hello!
I’m trying to find out the history of my property’s decorative porch wall tiles!
Sadly one fell off and is broken on one side so needs replacing, but after hours of googling I’ve been unable to find out much about them
Here is a link to a photo I took of them:
https://ibb.co/60jpRDZ
My property is on Langthorne Street in Fulham – which I believe was built by the Allen and Norris partnership in 1902 – I’m assuming these tiles are original from then
Any information would be super appreciated!
one would like to think that they used De Morgan tiles from the Sands End Pottery, that was producing similar works at the same prewar period, however they may be by Maws and Co. (There is also Doulton and Minton)The V&A art library may have catalogues of various tile manufacturers that could be worth a check. However National archives have an entry for the builders, Check website for reference, and these documents may contain purchase orders. Good Luck
Hi I’ve recently come across some info from ancestry that has me looking for information about the owner/manager of white hart pub on King Street in 1939.
Do you have anything on how long he was there for or any pictures etc?
Thank you
Stacey
I’m trying to find photographer camera cat who used to operate from Dawes road Fulham
Not sure this History stuff but someone might respond
Camera Cat did our wedding photographs Inn 1980. They were indeed based in Dawes Road, Fulham, SW6. They have now closed down.
I found a family I’m researching in the 1841 census listed at The Six Bells, Queen Street, with John HILL the head a licensed victualler, Hammersmith. Does anyone know if this is the pub that was demolished in 1959 or is a different pub altogether. The same family are in the 1851 census but the address is 45 Castle Street which is followed by Queen Street. John Hill is still a licensed Victualler so I am wondering if this is still the Six Bells or another pub/premises.
Evening all!
I am trying to found out more about a relative (Dorothy Hunt) who (according to the birth certificate), was born in October 1901 at 9 Sterndale Road. Funnily enough, I couldn’t find any houses with lower numbers in the 1901 Census. Could it be that that end of the street was not built by then and that the registrar misheard?
Perhaps someone knows when that end was built.
Kind regards
David Thompson
Bishop’s Park Mansions – I would like to find out more about the construction and early years of these mansion flats along Bishop’s Park Road. Any early photographs, or information about the developer, or plans would be of interest. Best, Alastair
I strongly recommend that you book in to the LBHF Archives where you are sure to find most of the information you are after.
A Gillepsie I merely googled Bishops Par Mansions and there is some info and it also refers one to Wiki – perhaps English Heritage can also help. Jill
Hello Berris. One of the other linkages I am looking at, is the relationship beteeen the Spicers and the Wilhmhursts/Mexteds. I suspect that Jane Spicer (born about 1820) might have been a daughter of one of the Mexted women. Your surname prompted me to ask!
Hello, I am trying to find anything about Mrs Sarah Toms who was in the Fulham chronicle as nanny Toms who lived in Bramber road fo 54 years and it was her 78th birthday.
You will need to give some dates for our readers to have a chance of helping
Hi,
Wondered if anyone could find anything on a person my Nan used to know from the 2nd world war but lost contact, here’s any information i know on her,
Rosina Allen, from Fulham London, aged 11 during her evacuation, would be 87 now (possibly 86/88). Had Siblings (4) unaware of their names though.
My father has a DNA match that I cannot place in my family tree. From shared matches I have a good idea where the match should fit but none of the surnames match. I am thinking that my father’s great grandfather may have fathered an illegitimate child with a married woman. Certainly in the 1881 census I have found this Grt grandfather in the same registration district as the matches great grandparents. I am wondering how close the two addresses are to each other (though I guess my ancestor as a commercial traveller could have had a large “patch”). 1881 details are:
Street Address: 4 Cambridge Cotts
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Comm Traveller
Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
Street Address: 4 Church Rd
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
Many thanks in advance
Hello – I am looking for information on a Mary Ann Chambers
B. 16 Mar 1821 in Piccadilly St James, England.
D. Sep 1857 in Fulham, Middlesex, , England.
and her husband Thomas Frances Pitt
Born 1811 in Fulham, Middlesex, Englan
Died Sep 1887 in London, Middlesex, , England
Married
29 Mar 1840 in Hammersmith, London, England
Children:
Eleanor Caroline Pitts, Louisa Fanny (Pitt) Jackson, Thomas Pitt, Margaret Pitt, Emma Elizabeth Pitts, William Henry Pitts and Sarah Pitt
I am a descendant of Louisa Fanny Pitt who married Thomas Benjamin Jackson
4 Nov 1861 in Hammersmith St Peter, England
I cannot track the ancestors of Thomas Frances Pitt, and I am wondering if anyone knows more about this family.
Hi Terence,
I had a quick look on Ancestry and found a matching family which says his parents were a Thomas and Ellen Pitts both born about 1770. It also says he had a child called Annie Pitt in 1842 with his first wife a Sarah Walker. I presume you are not on ancestry? I can give you more info if you need it.
As an aside, I used to live in Parsons Green in a house called Belgrave House which was built around 1795. Apparently my house along with a few others used to be known as Pitts Place Terrace so of course I am wondering if there is a connection with your family.
Best wishes,
Susie
Hello Susie.
That is brilliant.
No, I am not on ancestry (would much appreciate what you can find me), but I do have dna on ftdna, and so does one of my cousins (once removed) and one of my second cousins down that same Iine.
Louisa Fanny Pitt was known as Fanny Jackson. She married Thomas Benjamin Jackson, came to New Zealand, and then returned to England. Her daughter Fanny Jackson married Frederick Joseph Holt, (the Theatre entrepreneur known as Clarance Holt) ‘s grandson Clarence Holt Harris. Clarance Holt’s wife is variously surnamed Browne or Vaughan, but I think it is significant that her eldest daughter Ellen, who stayed in New Zealand, had Vaughan on her marriage certificate. Also, there was a Vaughan family living in Hokitika, which is somewhat close to where she was living. After her husband died (Edward Harris) , she remarried a Mr Henne and remained in that area of the country. My great grandmother was the daughter of Fanny Jackson and Clarence Holt Harris.
Ellen’s brother was Bland Holt, and her sister May Holt married a Fairburn.
Louisa’s husband was Thomas Benjamin Jackson, an architect who had a second family in Perth, Australia.
Either Louisa’s father, or Thomas’s father, was a Military Taylor! Is that information useful?
More information would be much appreciated. I am trying to work out just how these Pitts fit into the larger Pitt family.
Thank you Dr Terence Lomax
On Sat, 9 Oct 2021, 06:20 The Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society, wrote:
> Susie Richards commented: “Hi Terence, I had a quick look on Ancestry and > found a matching family which says his parents were a Thomas and Ellen > Pitts both born about 1770. It also says he had a child called Annie Pitt > in 1842 with his first wife a Sarah Walker. I presume you ” >
Hi Terence,
I’m glad you found the information useful. I have sent a message to the owner of the Tree on Ancestry and have asked her if she could help you but her Pitt Family only goes back to Thomas Francis’ father, Thomas Pitt born abt 1770 in Fulham. He is married to an Ellen Pitt also born abt 1770, died abt 1852.
I found Thomas Francis Pitt’s marriage certificate from March 1840 and he is listed as a labourer as is his father so I’m not sure about the military tailor profession.
If you have access to a public library, many offer free access to Ancestry. It would be worth you creating a family tree and seeing what pops up if you want to go back further. If you can’t get to a library I am happy to have another look.
Kind regards,
Susie
Thank you Susie. I would much appreciate a copy of the certificate if you are able to scan it. I will have to have a look at ancestry. I havent used it before! A lot of what I have is on wikitree.
I have passed a forwarding email address on to Susie
Please can you tell me what the shop wax in 1920 42 Fulham palace road
Charles Southgate appears on the electoral registers before WW1 and latest 1933 at that address. In the 1934 Post Office Directory, 42 Fulham Palace Road is listed as Charles Southgates Dining Rooms. Unfortunately not everything can be found on the internet.
There is a new puzzle for you in our latest post. https://fhhs.wordpress.com/2021/10/07/a-mystery-for-you-to-solve/
Can you help?
At the time of the birth of one of her children in 1900 my great grandmother was a servant at Molesford Lodge, King Street, Hammersmith, as stated on the birth certificate. I have searched for this location but cannot find any record of Molesford Lodge. Could anyone help with this please? Many thanks
I googled Molesford Lodge King Street and an alternative showed up as Marlesford Lodge School King Street. There is more information down the page here http://www.workhouses.org.uk/KensingtonAndChelseaSD/
There is a Molesford Street in Fulham, maybe the registrar mis-heard?
Great detective work Dawn
I wonder if anyone can help. I am looking for any record of 9 year old John Morland, drowned in the pond at Parsons Green in 1831. I assume this would have been reported in the local newspaper or have been the subject of an inquest ?
Thanks
Hi Martin,
I found his burial record on Ancestry – he was buried at All Saints Fulham on 10 February 1831. Sorry couldn’t find any newspaper article yet.
Susie
Thanks – I had the burial date but I am interested in trying to verify the circumstances of his death. Family information has it that he drowned in the pond – an event that had some repercussions for his father…..
Martin
I was Senior Student Manager – foorball at
Stanford l957, Does this role exist today? What is the history of this position?
Can you explain a little more please, readers may have problems understanding the context, for example do you mean Stamford Bridge?
I lived in Fulham Court from the late 60’s all thr way through to the 1980’s. Does anyone remember the Priest Father Joseph? He lived on the ground floor. He always wore his long black gown and was an invalid. He was either American or Canadian. I remember him as a boy and in my teens. Does anyone know of what became of him? I have never forgotten Father Joseph and with all my memories of Fulham Court he stands out.
Hi
I hope you can help me
I attended Hurlingham School from 1974-1981. My understanding is that it had just acquired comprehensive status in 1974 and the outgoing Head teacher was Molly Hattersley.
My query relates to the 11+. I am sure that I took this at my primary school, Harwood , Britannia Road, SW6. Unfortunately the school was demolished however I wonder whether either Hurlingham or Harwood would hold the ILEA details of whether I passed the 11+ and could have been eligible to attend one of the local grammar schools? My father is sadly deceased and my mother has dementia so I cannot ask them.
My email address is. Hrlbertram@gmail.com
I look forward to hearing from you.
Harriet Bertram ( nee Catling)
Hurlingham was one of the early comprehensives of the 1950s. It had been going a few years when I started in 1957. The head teacher was Miss Cocksedge. It took girls from a wide area whether or not they had passed the 11 plus. Do you remember doing the exam papers in primary school? Most parents made a big deal about it, although mine didn’t. And the other kids were very aware of sitting the papers, and getting the new bike etc., that their parents promised them!
I live in Brisbane Australia born in London lies in Pitney moved to aus in1973 was a bus no spotter using Ian Allen publications have a Garson garage I’d plate GR a circular plastic Lt radiator grille plate a RT bus triangular steel and enamel radiator badge and a trolley bus black gear shifter black lever is there any value of these pieces I have Peter at Blakey01@tpg.com-au or mobile on 0061438891247
What is it that you want to know? It would be helpful to use better grammar with correct spelling and punctuation.
And what is the relevance to Hammersmith and Fulham history?
Peter
Contact me on my email below re your bus question
Hi,
I wonder whether you may he able to help me?
I am trying to find the location of the Fulham Model Dwellings (workers accomodation). Many model dwellings in other areas still seem to be in existence. I guess it may have been repurposed, or demolished.
My daughters gt gt grandfather is living there in 3 rooms on the 1901 census.
Most of the children seemed to go to Munster Road school at some time.
Thanks alot for any help.
Hi there. We’re researching the history of the Hurlingham Book Shop currently run by Ray Cole. It ls located at 91 Fulham High Street. We have spoken to Ray at length about the shop and would like to know if anyone can recall its use before it was a bookshop. Through research at Hammersmith and Fulham archives, was know that it was an antique store in the 1970’s and a general store in the 1930’s. Does anyone know or remember what it was used for between 1940-1970? If anyone has any photographs of the shop or surrounding area that they would be willing to share, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Oz and Pat
G’day from Australia, I am looking for information about the gravesite of my GGrandfather Michael Callan/Cahahalne (born 1852) and his Father, Irish born Jeremiah Cahalane/Cahalan. They lived in Fulham and Michael lived in Prothero Road with his wife Ellen and family. The children went to school at the St Thomas of Canterbury Church and School. Any help appreciated thank you
almost certainly in St Thomas of Canterbury graveyard – contact them at fulham@rcdow.org.uk
Hello fhhs
I have received a message through social media from a Dawn Shilcock about being a Will recipient. I have found her via a comment on your page ( March 7th 2021 ) is there any way you can put her in touch with me? kind regards Paula
Cut and pasted here from above-
Dawn Shilcock says:
7 March, 2021 at 4:56 pm
Hello, I would like to make contact with Lesley Bairstow regarding her book Paradise Walk Chelsea. Can you help with this?
Thanks
Dawn
Reply
Lesley Bairstow says:
8 March, 2021 at 11:55 am
Hi Dawn, I am Lesley Bairstow who wrote Paradise Walk. I would be happy to help you with anything you would like to know. The book ran out of print copies years ago but I still have a few. Please get in touch here again if you would like to. Regards, Lesley
Perhaps you could donate a copy yo the chelsea library from the local history collection. I did try searching for Title in their online catalogue but without success many thanks
They did have several copies from me shortly after publication.
I now have re-prints of Paradise Walk. My email is lesleybairstow@yahoo.co.uk please feel free to contact me if you would like a copy. Regards, Lesley
Hi Paula, Lesley recently told me you had posted here. I don’t know how to contact you by email through this site and I don’t really want to publish my email address on an open forum. I asked Lesley to pass on my email address to you. You can send a personal message to me as Sandy Hayes, I joined the Frankston fb page, I also gave my email address to Shona to pass on to you. I suppose the moderators have my details, maybe they can pass it along. I hope we can make contact soon.
Message passed on.
Thank you, fingers crossed she gets in touch.
Hello Dawn I have sent you an email ~ can you check ? I’ll resend it, kind regards Paula
Why are these messages appearing on my email page?🤔
Hi Lyam
You may have checked a box saying ‘notify replies’ or ‘follow comments’ however I cannot find any evidence here. You should have an option to deselect it when you are in these pages.
I’m looking for a grave log for Fulham Cemetery (Fulham Old Cemetery) to find the location of Mary Carver’s grave, any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Contact Hammersmith and Fulham Borough Council; they should have the registers.
Hi Ellie,
Can you give me any more information? Year of death, age etc Are you sure she was buried in Fulham? Thanks,
Susie
Hi Susie, Mary Carver died 16th June 1885 at the age of 36, leaving behind a large family in 635 Fairlawn, Fulham, which is now 643 Fulham Road, and the house I’m researching.
I found a newspaper article mentioning her funeral in Fulham Cemetery (in 1885 I assume that the current Fulham Old Cemetery is what it’s referring to). She was married to a surgeon – Eustace J Carver – who was quite a notable figure in the community judging from the newspaper articles I’ve found.
Thanks!
Hi , my gt-grandfather who lived in Fulham died in 1913. He was buried in Margravine Cemetery, Hammersmith.
After researching I found that Mortlake cemetery have the records for the period and they were able to.give me a grave location.
This may be of some help.
I have a pewter mug with the inscription Chelsea v Fulham police , dated 1881 , any info would be appreciated
Hi it was also the Canada Dry distribution building in the 50s /60s.
My mum and dad used to run a cafe in Stephendale road in the 60s aprox 64 does anyone remember the name of this cafe?many thanks chris
Must have been in the parade of shops on the North side of the road between Hazlebury Road and Broughton Road as I don’t recall a cafe at the other end of Stephendale near the catholic church. Alternatively, might have been one of the several corner shops leading down to Wandsworth Bridge Road.
Hi , I live in pellant rd – would you have any photo s of this street + history of people living in these home s & road maps of this area .
Regards : Fabnat38 esq
Email: fabiennat@sky.com
Hi,
You should make an appointment to visit the LBHF archives on the first floor of Hammersmith Library. They will have maps, census, electoral registers, probably some photographs and they may have information about the builder too. They also ahve microfiche copies of local papers which would allow you to look up any interesting dates.
Good luck with your search.
I would like to know if Batey’s, who manufactured soft drinks, had a factory in Munster Road or Munster Grove during Victorian times.
The records for Bateys are held at the National Brewing centre archives. Check out national archives website. There was a well-known firm in Munster Road at the Coda centre see earlier discussions making soft drinks and I suppose it is possible that this was the original site for Bayteys. Trade directories need to be checked
I am trying to get any information about Ivy Doris Bloomfield formerly Stephens lived 14 Boscombe road W.12
Greetings from Australia.
I am researching my ancestors John and Sarah Rainger and their children who were living at 5 Munden Place according to the 1851 census.
I visit this area in 2019 and found Munden Street but not Munden Place. Do you know where Munden Place used to be? The area seems to have changed a lot over the years so I am wondering what it would have been like in 1851. John Rainger was a brickmaker.
Also, two of the boys – John Jnr 18 and Charles 15 faced the County Court at Clerkenwell in Jan 1847 and were imprisoned for three months each for larceny. Do you know anything of the social circumstances of the area at that time and which prison the boys might have been sent to – it seems that some of the “new” prisons were not built until 1847/48.
Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give.
Kind regards
Michele
Please see a map of the period from National Library of Scotland https://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=18&lat=51.49431&lon=-0.21236&layers=102&b=1&z=0&point=51.61989,0.09401&i=102345937
and do try Leicester Uni online Street Directories but they are hard to search.
If you know the dates the boys went to court you could sign up and search the local newspapers at the British Library online.
Then i suggest you write to the archivist at archives@lbhf.gov.uk and ask for help. They may have photographs or other maps of the area that might help and certainly street directories.
Good luck in your searches.
Edward Evans, we had the tally man collecting money each week.
There is a picture of Edward Evans on our Facebook group “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”.
See: https://www.facebook.com/groups/483620285498541/posts/1043265496200681
Many thanks.
My Dad, one of his brothers and my eldest sister all worked for Edward Evans at one time. Dad was a Tallyman.
I’m trying to find details of Lawsons, a shop that was near Hammersmith station.(NOT the estate agents) I visited, with my parents in the early 1950’s (I was only a tot) and have vague memories of the place and seem to recall that you collected your goods and paid, at home when the ‘Tallyman’ called weekly.
I can’t remember the name but on King Street across road from Co op which was also a department store, there was a department store where customers paid via a little notebook. I had a Christmas job there for a couple of months on the stockings and gloves counter. Identical set up to Are You Being Served. After buying tights or …..we made a deduction from this little book and gave it back to the customer. Looking back it seems very weird. I remember two floors with a wide staircase. Anyone else remember?
In the 1980s there was aDepartment store called Littlewoods it had a cafeteria on the top floor
My cousin and I both worked there. 1960 I think. She can’t remember either but river side of King Street. There was a central staircase to first floor, glass counters around a central display. I don’t remember any money being handled, just the books. £ shillings and pence. I will ask her if Littlewoods sounds familiar. I remember the catalogue a relative used to buy from so the name may be familiar because of that but thank you.
There was a large, old fashioned haberdashery shop, called Orton’s with cash tubes going around the store and large wooden counters and display cabinets.
The link below might be of interest to you-Hammersmith is mentioned and the fact that the company was taken over.
My Father, a Putney boy, had, apparently turned down the offer of a trial with Fulham F.C. as a youngster, as he preferred boxing. WW2 intervened and having asked to become a pilot (not realising there was a slight lack of planes) he found himself in the Fusiliers, “guarding” Dover Castle with a gun sans firing pin (the advice being to use bayonets to toss back any tanks attempting to advance up the beach), at one point he WAS the Regimental boxing team-it became increasingly apparent that he had stopped growing at 5 foot 6 and was rather too heavy for his height and thus at the disadvantage of punching upwards. Following demob (from the “Paratroops”) apart from a childhood friend, the Oarmaker, Roly Simms, offering him a chance (my Father was never very handy and health & safety was not very strict then) when he reckoned he nearly lost a finger or two on a band saw and a desire to become a Physiotherapist (family plus work plus a Correspondence Course failed
To add up) he was a Tallyman (or Supervisor or Manager of Tallymen-latterly a few women) for almost the rest of his life. At different times and at various sites (Battersea, Hammersmith, Shepherds Bush, Elephant and Castle and Kingston, I seem to recall) for “Edward Evans”, “John Blundell” and “Lawsons” (the last 2 being amalgamated at some point but still using the 2 brand names for some time and I think under “United Drapers” parentage. All met their eventual demise after falling prey to asset-stripping (? by Lord Hanson, enobled by Mrs. Thatcher, I believe). Not having a work pension, latterly my Father was allowed to stay on after 65 at HQ where he was required to approve loans-I recall, at this time, although he had rarely discussed the job he had hated for most of his life, he mentioned a colleague handing over a call from a nurse who was intent on paying some exorbitant interest rate. Although he met many decent people who felt the only way they could afford shoes, clothes, or household items was to get it “on tick”. He observed that a property that lacked both door knocker and bell was likely occupied by a “D/S” i.e. “Don’t Serve and was told to “go away”, on at least one occasion by connections of one of the less salubrious families resident at that time in South London.
http://www.scottishfamilyheritage.co.uk/list_lawsonsltd_memories.shtml
As I mentioned before, my Dad worked for Edward Evans and they, I think amalgamated with or were taken over by a company called Furdell’s (not sure about the spelling). He was with both companies between the mid-1950s and the early 1960s and at one time I remember him having to spend some time in Leeds with one or the other. Time and memory being what they are, I’d love to hear from anyone who can confirm who he was working for then and why he was in Leeds.
Mark, do you think there’s a chance it could have been “Blundell’s” (i.e. “John Blundell Credit Drapers”)? I remember my Mum mentioning that the family had visited Halifax when my Dad was considering a job thereabouts-think this was in the late 1950s (before I was born) – and think he might have been working for “Edward Evans” brand (?? in Falcon Road, Battersea or possibly Hammersmith then) evidently “Lawsons” had Scottish origins, “Blundell’s” had a big store in Newcastle but had branches all over the country at one time. The link I gave refers both to the aquisition of “Lawsons” by “John Blundell” and by “United Drapery Stores” in 1964-likely one and the same thing. I might be barking up the wrong tree or just plain barking! regards, Karen
Karen,
I don’t think it was Blundell’s but the name certainly rings a bell and it’s not a million miles away from Furdell’s. The memory does play tricks these days. I’ve a feeling that the company in question, if it was Furdell’s/Firdell’s or similar, worked out of Finsbury Park and it may be that Dad worked for them after leaving Edward Evans.
I’ve still got one of Dad’s Edward Evans business cards saying they were @The Family Store’. The reverse could be used as a temporary receipt for payments until, as it says, the ‘payment is in due course entered and initialled by our Representative in your payment card’.
I remember the Lawsons store too from 1950’s and by chance was talking about it with my aunt today. I still have a walkie-talkie doll, my Christmas present in 1956, which was bought there. The collector called weekly for payment. Did it become Littlewoods and start selling via catalogue a little bit later. Was Lawsons ever listed in trade directories?
I wonder. In the early 1960’s my cousin and I had a Saturday job as additional Christmas staff in a department store on King Street. We can’t remember the name but there was a wide staircase going up and customers had a little book with a total from which we deducted the purchase. We were on the stocking and glove counter and oh the time it took to decide. The layout of the floor was very much in the style of Are You Being Served. A glass counter, glass fronted drawers around a square. Would this new Lawsons?
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Hi. I’m trying to research my great grandmothers parents. Alice Louise Bell
She married a jamels samuel stanton
I’ve been been told that the bell steps were named after a relation in our family Frederick Bell. He owned a boat yard and ran a ferry across the Thames until hammersmith Bridge was built
Do you have any advice on how I can more information
Kimg.hatton@virginmedia.com
There are quite a few threads here. I suggest that you put together an email to archives@lbhf.gov.uk giving dates and names of the relatives you know about and ask for information on Frederick Bell. I imagine as an owner of a boatyard there will be some information. Ideally you should visit when this is possible, it has to be booked, where you should have access to maps, photos or pictures of the area and any documents. Depending on the period you could garner a lot of information from FindMyPast or Ancestry or FreeBMD. Armed with dates of deaths and marriages there may be entries in local papers and possibly info in the Ratebooks. Much better to do this in person if you are reasonably local.
Good luck in your search
All I want to do is find out where Heath Place Hammersmith Middlesex was.
My ancestors with the surname Heath lived there. Was that a pure co-incidence?
There is no where to ask
Hi I have researched Heath Place and it was in Shepherds Bush. It was demolished and replaced by Thorpebank Road. If you want to leave your email address I have more information I can give you Peter
Hi Peter
Thanks for your email re the Heaths in Heath Place.
My email is blueheaven1505@yahoo.co.uk
I look forward to hearing more from you please
Thanks Gillian Andrews
I was hoping to do the history of a house my son has just bought in Harbledon Rd Parsons Green . When it was built and who the residents have been over the years to date. Not sure where to start. Any pointers would be most welcome .
regards Jane Boyce
Voting lists would be at the library .The check of the planning website may reveal earlier developments and one of the property sites would give when the house was sold over the past few years
Have asked for info before but thought there may be someone who didn’t read my last request .Trying to find out why Ivy Elizabeth Martin (13/12/1909)was living with her father, Albert Edward Martin in Fulham and not with her mother, Ellen Abbott Martin in Bristol .Albert and Ellen(my grandmother) married in Bristol in August 1909..I know Ivy got into trouble with the police and at one time in 1932 ended up in Holloway. Last info I have is on 1939 register as Ivy Turner living with Leonard Turner. No sign of any marriage certificate.
Previous address when with father Sandilands rd,.Albert’s family also lived in this road.
I’m looking to find where my Grandad Frederick John Bootman attended school. He stayed at 131 Greyhound Road when he was 8 months old according to the 1911 Census but haven’t found him till 1929 when he went into the Army. He was born on 30/7/1910 to Annie E Bootman. Father unknown.
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone had any images of Lawn Terrace @1820. Researching the Gardiner family who lived in number 9.
Thanks Anna
Do you mean The Lawns at Shepherds Bush Green which was sometimes referred to as Lawn Terrace?
It’s the name of a street I believe beside Shepherds Bush, the street is still there but I can only find redeveloped images. I was wondering what kind of area it was because the next address for the family looks well to do, however the daughter was arrested for begging.
What is the present name of the road as to my knowledge there is no Lawn Terrace in Shepherd’s Bush now? The Lawns were a row of houses on the west side of Shepherd’s Bush Green between the Uxbridge Road and at one time the Pavilion Cinema (now the Dorsett hotel). The houses were bomb damaged in WW2 and were later demolished.
i can’t work out how to reply to a posting but re “Hi, I was wondering if anyone had any images of Lawn Terrace @1820. Researching the Gardiner family who lived in number 9. Thanks Anna” i just googled lawn Terrace Shepherds Bush and there are photos using this link
Old Shepherds Bush
@OldW12
‘The Lawn’ a terrace on west side of #bushw12 Green c1910. Demolished for Pavilion , now
@DorsettLondon
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Jill
Hi Gillian,
I’ve never been to London, I’m going by Google that shows Images of Apartments. When I look at old maps from early 1800s there is a very long street called Lawn Terrace, this is the time frame I’m looking at, 9 Lawn Terrace is listed on the baptismal certificates of some ancestors.
Thanks Anna
On the limited amount of information you’ve given it doesn’t sound as if the Lawn Terrace you are looking for was in Shepherd’s Bush. I would suggest it might be the one that was in the North End Road area of West Kensington.
I can’t understand how these postings work – in reply to Anna re Lawn Terrace as I can’t find your previous postings you say that in 1820s baptismal records give that address but do they not give any other info ie Parish etc etc exact place of baptism etc etc Jill
I am trying to find out details about 2 builders in Fulham. One was William H Smith who, according to the 1881 Census lived at 8 Barclay Road, Fulham and emplyed 32 men and 3 boys. The other is his sone in law Frederick Charles Hart who was living at 6 Peterborough Villas at the 1891 Census
Hi there, I’m a novelist setting a book around the Hammersmith Palais de Danse during world war 2. I’m trying to find information on what life would have been like at the Palais during that time (decor, how it was run if possible, who might have worked there) and plenty more details about the area I haven’t thought of. Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction? I am able to find information about 1950s onwards with relative ease but it’s the war years I really need to know about. Thanks so much for reading, Fiona Ford.
I would suggest you join the Hammersmith Palias Old Skool Group on Facebook and ask for help there.
Thank you so much for that tip Peter. I have actually already joined that group some time ago but looking to build my research if anyone here can help. Huge thanks for the reply. Fiona
I suggest you visit or contact the LBHF archives, I am sure they will have a wealth of material for you. Do look at the website under Libraries and Archives.
Thanks so much for this suggestion. It was the first place I tried but the searches all came with reports from the opening of fifties onwards – nothing for the war years.
If you have only used the online search I suggest an email to the archivist archives@lbhf.gov.uk as there are more resources than in the catalogue.
I had only used the online search as I didn’t realise there were further records. Thank you, I will email them immediately.
Many youngsters in the 60’s (myself included) would enjoy an evening at either the Palais or the Locarno in Streatham. Whether they did this also in the war years I really don’t know but might be worth exploring on a Locarno memories group.
You could also join the Facebook group ‘You’re Probably from W12 if…………….’ which has members from all over the borough
I’ve got a photo of my mum & aunty taken with 2 New Zealand airmen at Hammersmith Palais during the war. They just met them, were not dating, but the guys wanted a happy picture to send back to their families reassuring them life was good in London.
Hi, I have some brief diaries from my mum towards the end of the war and ‘going down to the Palais’ was a highlight of the week to meet up with Canadian airmen. I’d be happy to share the little I have
Hi Fiona, thank you so much for your reply. I would love to learn more about these entries if that’s possible – thank you so much for offering to share these memories with me. My email is mail@fionaford.co.uk if you want to reach me directly. Huge thanks once again, Fiona
Hi, not sure if my first post reached the site but my family and I were talking about the lane pool at Fulham Pools in the 80s – can anyone remember if it was 5 lanes or 6 lanes? I remember there was a diving pool somewhere! Thanks so much!
I just typed a long plea for help but the page wouldn’t accept it. My Anc tree is Watson, Hughes, Clark and I seek info on Benjamin Hughes, shop keeper of Fulham (Walham Green). Died aged just 44 years in 1830. Spouse Sarah. Believed from Wales but no info on that or his marriage. LONDON GAZETTE HAS ENTRY HE IS iNSOLVENT DEBTOR OLD BAILEY JAN 1823 “LATE OF NORTH END WALHAM GREEN Mid End” 3 children Sarah 1821 Bapt 19 4 1821 All Saints Fulham. Eleanor Elizabeth Bapt 25 8 1822 Benjamin Bapt 11 7 1819? Have his info from birth daughter Sarah 1849 Newcastle on Tyne
If I remember correctly there was a furniture shop in that area by the name of Hughes. I’m going back some 50 years now but I wonder if it was connected?
Thanks John sorry I thought emails were sent if a reply so only just seen your reply. I googled Hughes furniture Fulham and there are certainly lots of shops with that name but this is go
ing back to the 1820s! Think it;’s a lost cause but thanks. Jill
I work with a historical collection, and I’ve stumbled upon a notebook, largely filled in shorthand, but with repeated legal references (affidavits etc). There’s also an address: “7 Phillips, 58 Macfarlane Road Shepherds Bush”, with a date 1881. Anyone have any knowledge about lawyers located in the area at the time? I’m guessing this would have been owned by a clerk or secretary, but any information would be interesting. Thanks!
Hi Catherine
In the 1881 census Jane C Foster was living at 58 Macfarlane Road. At that time she was a widow and her occupation was listed as ‘Income from land’. Presumably she employed someone to look after her affairs. She was born in 1829 in Lambeth and her husband Stephen had been a farmer.
There were several solicitors offices in Hammersmith around that time. In 1880 Gabriel Samuel Brandon was listed as a Solicitor & Commissioner at 339 Goldhawk Road, Shepherd’s Bush.
I used to work at Watson Sons and Room, Hammersmith Road, then 235 King Street and several other locations in Hammersmith before. A family firm dating back to the 1800’s and still in the family in the 1970’s. The National Archives or Hammersmith Archives hold some of their records I believe.
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Nina Lincoln has asked for help she is trying to find some interior photos of the Eight Feather Club/Castle Club in Broomhouse Lane Fulham can you help please?
Hi
Apparently Archel Road is W14 which is West Kensington, but this area came under the Fulham Borough Council. I lived in W14 1948-1963 and then Fulham SW6 1963-1987. Good Luck.
Hi…..I am trying to trace history of my Primary/Prep School ‘Heathfield House’ in Fulham
( specifically at junction of Munster Road and Hestercombe Ave). The school was essentially a corner house so very small . The headmistress was a Miss James with her assistant Mrs Lee. I was there until approx 1961. Any info would be much appreciated and especially news of my former classmates . With thanks ….Michael
hi mate yes I was there with you Glenn Wylie in the same year i dtill have our class photo!
Glenn, Hi I don’t suppose you are related to Dr Angus Wylie and wife Kate who are deceased and were living at 43 Manchester St around 1913-1924
I am trying to trace Valerie Norman formerly of 2 Furber street Ravenscourt park near Hammer smith i believe married in 1970 to a Mr Halstead she may be deceased is there any information you can give me.
I am researching my grandmothers employer – Pope & Sons – Removals established in the late 1800s and listed as 21 Bridge Road, Hammersmith. I know the company ended up at Acton Lane opposite Chiswick Park Underground Station where the Sainsbury’s supermarket is now located, apparently after a compulsory purchase order was actioned in the 1940s in order to build the Hammersmith flyover. I suspect however that this date range may be wrong. I would be very grateful to hear from anybody who knew this company and may have more information – an old photograph would be very helpful.
Thank you
Jim Kirk
My great grandfather George Joseph Pryor was a friend of Edward Brownfield Pope (born c1812) who ran the carrier business from 21 Bridge Street. Edward had a son Alan Edward Brownfield Pope born 19/05/1913 and in 1939 he is listed as a ‘Removals supervisor & warehouse manager’. Edward also had a grandson of the same name born 24/06/1877 in Hammersmith. My ggrandfather was the MD of Palmer’s Stores which had premises on King Street as well as on Bridge Road and Pope & Sons worked for the store a lot. I have a photo of a Pope & Son van outside Palmer’s Stores if you are interested.
Best wishes,
Ros
Hi there – thank you for taking the time to reply to my query. I would indeed like to see the photo that you have and in return I have one to show you. I am not quite sure how to give my email – is it allowed to post on the site or is there a private message facility or means to attach photo here.
Regards
Jim
I have passed your response and email on so you should get a direct email in reply.
I’m interested in finding out more about Chesilton Road, Fulham in the early C20 – what sort of neighbourhood was this?
I have not received a response to the above question – does anyone have any clues? I’m specifically interested in early 1920’s.
Would these have been flats or individual houses?
Andrew,
I used to go to school around the corner from Chesilton Road and had friends who lived there. They were all large terraced houses then.
I’m 70 now and no longer live in Fulham but a quick check online shows that a 5 bedroom property there sold for £1.9 million in 2019. Many of the houses have now been converted to flats, one of which recently sold for close to £600,000.
Mark
Hello,
I’m interested in finding the original architectural plans for my Victorian terrace house on Greswell Street in Fulham. I’m also interested in who may have built it and who has also lived there. Do have any advice on where I could find such information?
You can look at the census of course. And don’t forget the 1939 Register. If and when the local studies department of Fulham & Hammersmith Library reopens its amazing what you can find about builders and look at maps etc.
Regards, Lesley
My late mother worked for estate agents Allen & Norris in the 1970s on Fulham Palace Road (now a different estate agent). The two men Allen & Norris built the houses and maisonettes in the Alphabet streets. There is a very good account on the internet if you google ‘ ALLEN AND NORRIS: the building firm that made Henry Norris rich’. My mother rented one of their flats and I am now sitting in it. The previous tenants had lived here during WW2 as had her by then elderly neighbours in the flat above.
Hello,
My mother was born at 302 Fulham Palace Road, in December 1936. She has no idea why she was born at that address.
Her mother was living in Parsons Green. Was this address a materity home?
It would be nice to have some information on this address?
Thanks, Gill
I seem to remember there was indeed a maternity home in Parsons Green. If I can find out more I will let you know.
Regards, Lesley
Hi Gill,
I had a quick google and found a chat on Genes Reunited from 2005 which says this:-
“Just found out today that 302 Fulham Palace Road was called the ‘South Western Maternity Home and Nursing Institution” and it closed in 1939.”
Can’t seem to find anything else about it but hoping that will help.
Best wishes,
Susie
Hi
On google look up Lost Hospitals of London. It was known as Fulham Maternity Hospital. Also there is something on
The National Archives. There might be something on the 1939 Register too.
Regards Lesley
Parsons Green Maternity Hospital existed beyond the 1960s. My neice was born there approximately 1965.
Many thanks Lesley for the advice and tips.
Sounds like it might be worth a trip to Fulham and Hammersmith local studies, when it opens.
PS Here is the link to the chat:-
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/849521
Hello Susie,
Really interesting and very helpful. Thank you.
My mum (who is 85 this year) now knows the name of the building she was born in!
Gill
Hi Gill,
My Mum is 84 and we had a house overlooking Parsons Green. My Grandfather and then my Dad also ran his own business from the same address. Also I was born at the Fulham Maternity Hospital in 1966. Where did you Grandmother live on the Green? It was like a village when I grew up there.
Best wishes,
Susie
Hello Susie, after speaking to my family, it seems to me that my mothers home was nearer to Fulham than Parsons Green. Their address was 88 Archel Road.
It seems I have quite a few relatives who come from this area, some who own local businesses.
However, we are at the start of our ancestry journey, so will use your vauable advice too.
Thanks
Gill
Hi
My father had a restaurant named “Mother India” in the 70s. He sold it in 1985. It was in Lillie Road, Fulham.
I would like to find out any records/ information about the restaurant.
We spent our childhood there. It would be great to have some information on our restaurant.
Thank you
Amina
My mother worked in a munitions factory in ww2 I assume in Hammersmith she lived in black lion Lane according to census c1939 she would of been 19 was there a factory nearby??
Also I notice there is a black lion Lane n south bkack lion lane anyone know when the road was split ?? Or renamed
Thanx
Pauline
Others may be able to help but Waring and Gillows Factory was turned over to munitions work in WW1, see https://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/details-photo/waring-and-gllow-munitions-factory-in-white-city-hammersmith-and-fulham-london-a-large-crowd-of-male-and-female-workers-leaving-the-factory/MEV-10822429 . Also Blakes Distillery became a Munitions Factory in WW1 so maybe that continued. There will be lots about this in the Archive above Hammersmith Library and there may be more in our book about Fulham in WW2. I am away from the area now but no doubt someone else will come up with an answer.
The A4 gret west Road was upgraded and forced through to Hammersmith Flyover in the 60’s splitting many of these small roads. Its now a pleasant enclave.
I imagine it was split when the Great West Road was put through, we were living at 47 Eyot Gdns and our house was knocked down for the road and like Black Lion Lane is divided in two now.
Would that be late 50s ? I’m sure someone will know.
Does anyone have any historical information about 1 friston st, Fulham SW, the woodages lived there for years. Thank you.
Can you help me please. I would like details of the industry that once was part of the riverside from Hammersmith Bridge to Fulham Football ground. I am leading a Windsor U3A walk along the river and I would love to be able to talk about what was there before all the more recent apartment blocks. I came across a site with a great deal of information and photographs but try as I might I cannot find that site again.
This might be more helpful and maybe what you saw.
This site also has some stuff of relevance in the Historical context section.
Click to access CDF.11_Thames-Landscape-Strategy_-Kew-to-Chelsea-2002.pdf
I know that if you can get into the Archives at LBHF 1st floor Hammersmith Library you would find heaps there with books on many of the industries including our own on Manbre (see Publications on this site). Good old Wikipedia has less of use but worth a look. British History Online is mainly concerned with buildings in the town. Good luck with the walk.
Hi, can anyone tell me where the Maxwell Arms was as my relative, George Land was, I believe, the publican there in 1902
Trevor,
The Maxwell Arms was at the Fulham end of King’s Road, number 614. No George Land is shown as a publican there between 1881 and 1904. What date was he there?
Hi Mark,
According to his marriage license, his address was the Maxwell Arms and his profession was Publican.
This was dated June 1902
Best wishes
Trevor,
How old was George when he married? Who did George marry in 1902? It was either an Emily Parks or a Carrie Cullum. What is his bride’s address on the marriage certificate and where did they get married?
I couldn’t find either and Emily Land or a Carried Land in the Fulham vicinity in the 1911 census. Maybe George and his wife separated or one or both of them died..
The surname of the publican at the Maxwell Arms in 1911 was Dodd so if George ever was publican there it must have been between 1902 and 1911. He’s not at 614 King’s Road in the 1901 Census nor the 1911 census.
Mark
Trevor,
It occurred to me that the term ‘publican’ didn’t necessarily refer to the owner or proprietor of the pub/alehouse/off sales business,whom you’d expect to live on the premises. George could have been the manager of the pub but lived somewhere else altogether rather than in house.
The 1901 Census lists many George Land names. Did he have a middle name? As the only paperwork you have shows George marrying in 1902 he could have been anywhere before that and somewhere else at the time of the next Census in 1911.
Bit of a mystery.
Hi Trevor, I’m a descendant of George Land Sr’s son Edward (Ted) Land, I have his sister Ellen Orford’s letter of administration as she didn’t leave a will, she was the landlady of the Maxwell Arms. She died without children so her entire estate was obtained by her last surviving sibling, George Land Sr. when it went into probate. George Land Sr. died in 1909 and his will (which he wrote in 1907) doesn’t mention the Maxwell Arms. Yes, George Land married Emily Parks, I think perhaps that George Jr. was living there and operating the business whilst they tried to find a buyer as George Land Sr. would have been more preoccupied with the Anchor Inn in South Benfleet, along with the other businesses he was operating. If you wish to get in contact, you can message me on my email churchleygenealogy@gmail.com and I’ll be happy to answer any questions you may have about George Sr. and the Anchor Inn. (I don’t use that e-mail as a personal e-mail so it’s checked every few days, but it’s an easier way to contact me as I don’t post my personal e-mail on message boards.)
I am trying to find a ww2 munitions factory around Hammersmith area where my mother might of worked she was 19 in 1939
And I have her living in black lion Lane around 1939 census
Thanks
Pauline
Hello. I’m interested in finding the architectural drawings for the original homes on Greswell street in Fulham, SW66PP. Any idea where or if I may be able to locate these?
With thanks.
Good afternoon to you
I am leading a walk for Windsor U3A from Putney to Hammersmith Bridge in August. I am looking for information please about the companies that were on the riverbank between Hammersmith and Fulham football ground before the coming of all the apartments. There is a very informative site with some marvellous old photographs (Duckhams, Manbre and Garton). I guess it is a History Society site but cannot for the life of me locate it again. Help please
This website should do the job https://www.jtp.co.uk/cms/pdfs/Fulham_hammersmith_riverside_a1_cpw_complete_set_first_10_s.pdf . Also if you can get hold of a copy of John Inglis and Jill Sanders Panorama of the Thames 1845 that will also help. Pevsner’s Architectual Guide would help too.
Good luck
Hello, I am looking for any Woodage or Pyke members that may still be living. My grandparents William and Violet Munro lived at One Friston St Fulham SW. His sister married Pyke and the grandson had several pics of my mom and her family but unfortunately Michael Pyke who loaded those passed away a few years ago from what I was told when trying to locate him on Ancestry. My mom didn’t have any siblings (they had 2 prior that passed of pneumonia) My grandfather did have siblings, a couple brothers and Annie who passed at a young age. I would love to find out if those brothers had any children or if Annie’s children had kids. Thank you so much for any help you can give me. I was born in Oxford in 1964 and I am so interested in finding anyone who shared my roots.
Friston Street is in the Sands End ward of Fulham. There a couple of Facebook Groups relevant to this area that may have members who can help you.
Thank you John. I am not however on Facebook, any other suggestions?
Good morning
I have spent many hours trying to locate the police records that had them visit my grandfather’s place of work in 1928. He absconded from here just before they arrived and has never been found since. Would you be able to help me locate these police records as they mentioned a wife and 4 children and non payment of maintenance!
Thanks for reading
Linda Saunders
Hello
Would anyone know of Elsie Doris Bramley who married Arthur Bannister in 1953 – St Pancras. They lived at 14A Wilde Street and had three girls, Shirley, Barbara and Pamela who were all born mid 1950’s.
Thank you
Melissa
I got my first football boots from Gabys and my first bike from Gabys shops in Lillie Road mid 1950s.
My dad got my firsts pair from Gaby’s , we lived about 400 yards away from the shop. In about1959. Remember the leather studs made up of layers of leather
There was a famous occasion many years go, late 60s/early 70s when foreign official turned up at Wembley to referee an England game withe wrong coloured shirt and Mr Gaby had half a day to manufacture him a new one.
He supplied most of the clubs in the Sportsman’s League with their kits as well as most of the referees of the Fulham and District Referees Society.
My grandfather Edward Delaney had a full time art studio in Holland Park, where he painted scenery for theatre, ballets, and opera. He rented a second location in Fulham up to about 1964. It could of been a hall or a church. Does anyone know of its location? Thank you, Sarah Atwood
Dear Sir/Madam,
I’m a London Taxi driver with an interest in the history of London’s roads. Who, where or what gave them their name?
Camden’s historical society have a comprehensive list of this type of information. I was wondering whether you do as well?
If you don’t have such information is there any chance you could point me in the direction of anybody who does for Hammersmith and Fulham.
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Kevin George
There is an out of print FHHS booklet entitled Street Names of Fulham and Hammersmith.
A copy of this booklet would probably be held at the Hammersmith and Fulham Local Studies Library on 1st Floor, Hammersmith Library, Shepherd’s Bush Road, London W6 7AT, telephone 020-8753-3850, archives@lbhf.gov.uk
Yes there is, Butt I don’t have a copy, it must be about 40 years old though?
I am not aware of a listing for the LBHF although there will be some stuff in council minutes. It seems most of the Victorian era street names were in the gift of the developer/builder. Latterly it is more political with councils deciding. You are probably aware of Bruce’s lists which shows name changes – https://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/Streets/New_to_Old_Abolished_London_Street_Names.htm#H and of course there are the LCC publications listing road name changes and authorisations which might be useful – it will be in most borough archives or reference libraries. Hopefully someone will come up with a better source of info. Good luck.
How can I trace a person who lived in Putney in the 80/90s
Please advise
Thanks
BS
The electoral registers in the local archive are probably your only source of address, although you might be able to locate old phone books (maybe worth trying the British Library). How you trace them now is more difficult. Facebook might work. in the past I have searched 192.com to find an absentee landlord – it worked but you have to pay for the searches.
Unfortunately I cannot find the original posting asking if anyone remembered Mr Gaby, the cobbler on Mulgrave Road – but my Great Aunt Jess worked in that same shop repairing shoes. I would be delighted to hear from whoever made the enquiry!
14 may 2021
I’m looking for a clear source to view the Fulham section of John Rocque’s map of London from 1741 if anyone could help.
Thanks
Hi Andrew, I think I put up a comment about Mr Gaby and his shop in Parsons Green. He used to mend my Dad’s rugby boots, not to mention cleaning the clods of mud off them first! I remember the shop being tiny and full of boots and shoes in every nook and cranny and the wonderful smell of leather. Weren’t there two brothers both cobblers? The one I remember lost a leg in WW1 I believe.
Susie
Hello, I was wondering whether anyone might be able to point me in the direction of information about St Matthew’s Church, Sinclair Road (also called St Matthew’s Masbro Road or St Matthew’s Hammersmith or St Matthew’s West Kensington). It’s celebrating its 150th anniversary of consecration in a few weeks and so am trying to write a brief piece on the early history of the parish. Many thanks!
The church already has a fairly comprehensive history on it’s own website but are you looking for something more specific? Also have the names on your WW1 memorial been researched?
You must check the west London observer on the British library on online newspaper archive site. Do an advanced search Ltd from 1868 to 1870 to select West London observer and search on Saint Matthews you should find plenty to be able to write an article including when the area was a swamp I thought to be plague infested, Before I knew so was built and also the church good luck. I believe you can just purchase a one month subscription still to get all articles but if you don’t have other articles that are later in your archives you may consider purchasing a one-year subscription and find as many references as you can to the church through the years
Hi I would like to find out more infomation regarding direct ancestors of mine and in particular George Samuel Peters born in Hammersmith in 1806 who married Harriet Chipperton also born in Hammersmith in 1805.
Family members have suggested the family were stockbrokers . Any infomation would be greatly appreciated
Thank you
Paul Holden
Hi Paul, I have had a cursory look on the web. There is a lot of information about George and Harriet.
They were married in 1828 lived in Alfred Road near Shepherds Bush and went on to have a great number of children even by Victorian standards. George died in 1866.
On both the 1851 and 1861 census returns he is described as a ‘Broker’ but this does not mean he was a stock broker and my guess is that he was some other kind of broker as in 1861 some of his children while living at home are working as servants or dressmakers. I suspect that a stockbrokers children would have not been required to take on such jobs.
George appears in a great many family trees so others have gone before you.
A subscription to Ancestry.com would be a good way to explore the family more fully
Thank you for replying to my request for information regarding my ancestor. I take your point about his employment. I have also contacted Brompton to locate his grave as he is buried there.
Many thanks once again
Best wishes
Paul Holden
I am looking for any photos of Field Road off Greyhound Road, circa 1950/60. I lived there for several years before moving to Fulham Court. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Do you know the address of the Fulham Arts Centre that reportedly saw a riot at a Generation X gig in 1976?! Many thanks!
It was in part of the old swimming pool/laundry, entrance was in Dawes Road SW6. The main pool entrance was in North End Road. All gone now, went there many times to various events.
I think you might be amused by this story. The building was known as ‘Fulham Baths’. There was a swimming pool but there were also a number of baths for individuals to use and there was a large laundry. When it was built much earlier in the 20th century not many people in Fulham had an indoor bathroom so bathing was by a tin bath or a visit to ‘The Baths’.
In the mid 1960s they installed a number of washing machines (Laundrette style) which was considered very forward thinking. In 1968 A recently elected lady Councillor of my acquaintance was taken on a tour as her committee responsibilities included ‘The Baths’ She saw the long line of machines and then commented to the Council Officer leading the tour…’I don’t understand…..why would people come her to wash their clothes…why don’t they just use their own machine?’.
The Officer looked stunned and had to explain that unlike the Councillor most people in Fulham did not have washing machines or even baths. Clearly a case of the class divide.
In fairness to the lady concerned it should be noted that for the remainder of her term of office she worked hard to promote schemes to provide indoor bathrooms throughout the borough.
Thanks Basil, yes my relatives used the warn baths, they had no baths in their houses, We had a prefab, with a bathroom! My Aunt worked in the laundry at the back of the swimming pools for many years. I loved the pools and used to play five a side in a yearly competition there, they covered the pool with boards.
Growing up in a requisitioned mansion flat near the Olympia, hot water was either light boiler, keep it running for hours, sometimes use an immersion heater to get two inches of water in the massive (and cold) bathroom with the roll top bath. So much easier to take the 28 bus to the baths. A white clad attendant would draw a deep, hot bath you could float in, a sliver of soap was provided as were the towels
At Beaufort House school we walked there one morning a week to swim. That together with a weekly attendance at the Swim Club used to keep us all relatively clean.
Last time I was in England a dance centre occupied the front entrance. The cubicle where we used to pay our pennies, and buy slices of bread covered in margarine after a swim, was still there, as were the doors into the baths. We were given a wrist band and when our time was up, the guard would shout ………bands all out and we had to leave pool.
I can smell the chlorine as I think back to those times. I am sorry to learn it has all now gone.
In the 70s, whilst living in London, I acquired and elegant ( expensive Parisian? Porcelain and gold guilded) ladies walking stick. Unusually it is engraved….. E. ASTLEY 14, MUSGRAVE CRESCENT, WALHAM GREEN.
I have established her name was Ellen her Husband Robert. The 1891 census records them living at 42, Limerston St, Chelsea. He was a Horse Trader. Employing 8 men.
The 1911 Census puts them at 14, Musgrave Crescent having retired. Here his occupation is recorded as Bookmaker.
My questions are…does anyone know if relatives of the Astleys still live in Area…. no children seem to be recorded. And were they prominent in the local area for any reason?
Hi, I wonder if you can help please! I was looking for info about Fulham Swimming pool in Lillie Road and wanted to know what facilities it had back in the 80s. I know it has an 8 lane 25m pool now and looking at an old photo I saw dated the 80s think it’s very possible that there was also a large lane pool then as well – I also seem to remember a diving pool or diving boards? Please can you help! Was it a 6 lane or 8 lane pool back then? Thanks so much!
My GG Grandfather John NOLAN died on the 15/02/1905 at the Fulham Infirmary i would like to find the details of his burial do you think it would be reorded in there records. John Nolan’s actual surname was COSGROVE he left his first wife and family in the 1850s and married again using his Mother’s maiden name. He had moved to the Hammersmith area by the mid 1860s and i was born in Hammersmith in 1959. I only managed to find out the truth about John Nolan due to my 2nd cousin having a DNA test which matched someone in MASSACHUSETTS he had letters from John Nolan from the 1870s which were from the address shown on the 1881 census. It took me some time to locate John Nolans death certificate. Johns first wife and children immigrated to MASSACHUSETTS in 1868 and i have managed to trace ancestors there to the present day. I would be grateful if you could help me locate details of John Nolan’s burial.
Regards
Ron Lalley
Have you tried billiongraves website? This will at least gives all possible cemeteries from its map in the area, but especially check fulham cemetery , margravine and Kensal Green records
Possible
As Editor of the Camden History Society Newsletter our July issue will have an article on the Dutton Street Gasworks, Grays Inn Road.. I was interested to read your article on the web page about Fulham Gas Works which records that the plant was transferred from Dutton Street to Fulham in 1829 and wonder if you have any further information about this. Malcolm Holmes
Dear all I think that my great grandmother Constance Baker Mother of the wounded that has two put up of her one in Bishops park Fulham I think she should have a statue put up of her.
Please can anyone help me find some old photos of Thames Row, Brentford before it was redeveloped? My 3 x great grandfather and all his immediate family were lightermen living there in the mid 1800s. I’ve tried google. Thanks. Giz Marriner
Suggest you contact this address, as Brentford is not in our area
https://brentfordandchiswicklhs.org.uk/
Hello, I am wanting to find out the names of any preparatory schools that were in Fulham around 1881 – particulary one that had Sarah Webster Rose as the Principal. I am attempting to find out details on two brothers who are listed as boarding and attending the school – it may have been at 66 Edith Road, Fulham
Just want some old photos of Eternit Wharf Recreation Centre
Do you know the name of the parade that was part of Hammersmith Broadway in the 1920s.
Hi, I’m looking for some help in finding out when a building was built. The building is 643 Fulham Road, SW6 (also known as ‘Fairlawn’). I thought that it was built around the 1880s after checking census records, but then found a photo of it from 1874 at the local archives. It was a YMCA building in the 1900s, but before then I think it must have just been a really big house. Any help would be great, thanks!
Ellie
The archives are likely to be the best source of information. Rate books may help. Also Feret’s book Fulham Old and New online may help if it was a big house. https://archive.org/details/b29010433_0003/page/16/mode/2up
This OS map from the wonderful National Library of Scotland online resource
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345976 will help tie down the local big houses, it seems Ravensworth House was the dominant presence there.
Good luck with your search
Hi FHFHS,
I wonder if you can help me, or point me in the right direction?
I am trying to find more information about my Aunt, Ena Maycock.
This is all I know about her:
Ena Maycock, born on 8th June 1919. She went to Ellerslie Road, then Wormholt Park, and then to Burlington School. She may have won a scholarship.
She became ill at about the age of 15/16. [1934/5] She left that school and went into hospital for a period. She went to an epileptic hospital at Epsom. This all happened just before the Second World War. She came home; she had obviously got over it.
She apparently got a job at Hammersmith Hospital in Ducane Road. I think she was a cleaner. She got a job at Barkers in Kensington after the war. She was a clerk in the pattern department.
I believe that you hold records/archives of the Burlington school, and wonder if she appears in them?
Hi
Can anyone shed any light on a fish and chip shop that was in Latimer Road, no. 276. I’m looking for details relating to my Grandfather, Alfredo Pelotto, owning the shop in the early 1900’s. Mainly trying to find , when they opened/took over the shop and how long they stayed there.. Thank you
Hi Chriss, not sure of how long they stayed there or when they opened but he’s my grandfather too. My mother was a little girl (the youngest of two girls and two boys) there at the time. Sorry I can’t be more helpful. You must be related to either my Aunt Doris or Uncle Bert???
I’m wondering whether anyone can provide details of when the building on Rylston Road between Prothero Road and Mendora Road was last in use. I believe it was probably last used by Kodak but can’t find details of when or what Kodak used it for. Was it for processing like their Harrow factory ? Any information about the building – particularly in the 1980s most welcome. Thank yo
It was a TA Centre at one point.
It was always listed as one of their recessing plants. Check out https://familypedia.wikia.org/wiki/Fulham for a small picture and the laundry chimney behind. I used to walk Past it every day in the early 80s but there was never much seemed to be happening although there were a few of their yellow vans outside.
Would anyone know of a person or organization in Hammersmith (or elsewhere) circa 1780-1820 with the initials H.E.J.C.? I am trying to find my 4xgrandfather James Holbrow who was employed as a clerk by this person or oganization. I have hit the “brick wall” with this and cannot move forward without knowing what these initials stand for. Thank you. Donna
Hi was there ever a little boy called Thomas who was murdered in the late 1800s1950s in what uae to housing esate be for it was Emlyn Gardens and do know what happened to his mum
Emma
This is a bit vague can you tie it down a bit? just to give our readers of Contact Us a chance to help. Your best bet will be searching the online newspapers of the British Library to get more detail – try looking at West London Observer -https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/titles/west-london-observer
Thomas was 5 he live in the house i lived which was 74 Ember Court Emlyn Gardens i dont know which year it was as i got told by one person in was in the 1800s and then someones wlse told me it was in the 1950s he had blonde hair and blue eyes from what they told me it was the nanny not his grandmother who mudered him sorry its vage i have being trying to find out more but no luck
Hi I’m looking for a Robert Farley worked as a barman in Pimlico about 1965 /66
Unless you know he lived in Hammersmith and Fulham there is little likelihood of anyone on FHHS contact us having any information. Try Westminster Archives but they will need more to work on.
Good luck with your search.
My grandmothers brother was married on 24th December 1937 and his address was 30 portnall road, paddington london. on his death certificate his occupation is listed as a chef. His name was simon mullins and he died 5 years later. Is there any way of finding out did he work in a local restaurant or something similar? Thank you
This is rather out of our area. You could look up local papers to find the notice of the death which may mention place of work or colleagues, Westminster Archive is very good, but also the British Library has an archive of newspapers which you can look up on line. Good luck in your search.
Hi Caroline, I have found a Simon Mullins on the 1939 register. DOB is 27th July 1909. He is in Paddington Hospital listed as a patient, he is down as a Delicattesen shop assistant. Is this the right one for you?
Dear Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society,
I am writing in from Pitzhanger Manor & Gallery in Ealing to see if your Members can help us discover more about a Victorian builder! When restoring the Manor (designed and built by architect Sir John Soane), a dramatic discovery was made when the plasterboards blocking the internal windows in the entrance were removed. This revealed original marbling paintwork commissioned by Soane alongside contemporary graffiti by the builder who had encased the windows. He had signed his name, date, trade and employer: D. L. Flack, 1832, Plasterer, in the employ of Mr [Boal] of Hammersmith.
We were wondering if you could help us shed any light on our plasterer D.L. Flack or the employer Mr Boal of Hammersmith? Might anyone know about either of these names/ families or indeed if it is Mr Boal (the handwriting is not easy to decipher). We would be fascinated to hear of any provenance or records that might link to our mystery builder, whose farsighted graffiti scrawl indicated that he knew Soane’s masterwork would one day be unveiled again!
For those interested, our new exhibition Soane Restored reveals the fascinating story of how Pitzhanger – special as an almost intact example of British architect Sir John Soane’s work – was returned to its original vision. The exhibition celebrates the careful and dedicated work required to reveal Soane’s Pitzhanger, hidden under layers of paint, new brickwork, and alterations. The graffiti can also be seen in situ.
Look forward to hearing from you,
The team at Pitzhanger Manor and Gallery
I am looking for information regarding Butchers Asylum,Walham Green.
This is clearly marked on the 1868 Stanford map but as of now I cannot find any reference to it’s existence.
High Keith
It’s Butchers Almhouses i think you will find, in Vanston Place
now Samuel Lewis Trust Buildings.
Ah, you spoiled it Len, as an ex butcher I rather liked ( and partly saw the need for ) an asylum for us knife wielding lunatics !
Ha Ha
I bet your favourite film is Physco 😵👍
Have you looked at the censuses? I have seen asylums ,workhouses and hospitals listed with patients and workers
Lesley
My 4th great-uncle John Knight, butcher of Walham Green, was a driving force to build the Butchers’ Almhouses, started 1840, demolished about 1900. He bankrupted himself and other family members in the process. John saw his last days out as one of its residents. ‘John Knight Lodge’, built 1990, is part of the Samuel Lewis Trust Estate @ Vanston Place.
Berris Knight Spicer
I am looking to find Woodages it Pykes. My mother grew up on Friston St with my grandparents. I would love to find a living member of either family. Thanks so much.
If you have followed the posts by Barbara, Geoffrey See and Heather Christine Potts in April then do have a look at the latest article on our home page https://fhhs.wordpress.com/2021/05/27/sees-get-in-touch-through-contact-us/ there is a photographic challenge for the detectives amongst you. Good luck in the search.
My G.G/F, Charles Wilkes b 13/3/1839 East Stonehouse, Devon & his wife, Alice Turner b 11/7/1855 Mayfair, London lived at 2 Ryecroft St, Fulham being a free-standing cottage built by Charles Wilkes from abt 1898 until 1919 when the house was sold. My search of London School Admissions located son, Sidney Herbert Wilkes b 3/12/1881 attending the Ackmar Road School (1890) and the Sherbrooke Road School (1891-92) however, there are no records of sons, Malcolm Wilkes b 16/5/1888 and John Liberty Wilkes b 27/7/1894 both born at Fulham attending schools in or around this township. Can you assist or put me in contact with a body who may have the required information. Regards.
John Wilkes.
Sydney. Australia.
Might the brothers have been educated privately, I see John is a student in 1911 census
Hello there,
My G,G/F attended a ‘private’ school at Southborough, Kent run by Mr Edward Fletcher – see1901 Census at the age 12. My info is that he attended a local public school in Fulham until he was around 11 or 12 before going to a boarding school. Malcolm did an apprenticeship – started as a fitter & turner moved into the electrical trades prior to leaving for Australia in 1910. Any assistance appreciated.
Regards.
John Wilkes.
Could you please tell me the name of the church that was in Fulham Road just along from Sir Oswald Stoll Mansions in the 50’s please?
Irene,
You could mean the Fulham Broadway Methodist Church which was on Fulham Road itself or St James that stood in Maxwell Road, off the Fulham Road.
Hi, I am looking for some information about Edward Bird and the very industrious Bird family which did so much for the borough in the 19th century, in connection with a research project I am conducting re the Latymer Foundation. I see that Jacinda Bird, a relation, recently did a presentation to the FHHS about her family history and wondered if anyone might have a copy of the presentation or could put me in touch with her. Many thanks.
Hi
It was an excellent presentation, very rich in illustrations and well worth hearing again. i will forward your enquiry.
Thank you!
Dear Christine
My apologies for the slightly out of the blue message.
I’m beginning to look into my family history and I saw here that you had a presentation from
Jacinda Bird about the Bird family in Kensington.
If possible I’d be really interested in getting in touch with her or you about the content.
(I’d also be very interesting in tracing the history of what happened to Eynham Lodge which stood on the site of what is now the old BBC television centre opposite Wood Lane Tube station and which must have been part of the 1908 Franco-British expo site.)
Huge thanks in advance
I have passed on yur message to Mrs Bird.
Good luck with your research.
Many thanks for this swift response.
Can anyone help please? I am searching the history of an address given to me as 139 King Street Fulham with a link to the year 1908. On the 1891 census the property appears as residential and belonging to the Montague family however by 1901 it doesn’t appear to be residential. The census shows people living in 138 & 141 but not 139 or 140. Can anyone fill in the gaps and tell me a little about its history please?
I would ask Hammersmith local history department to check the voting list around that time to see if anyone has been registered to vote. If you are sure the numbers existed,they they might not have been present on census night, and are recorded elsewhere.
How strange I’m looking for the history of the shop ‘O’dunn radio and television repair’ shop 257 king street as my dad lived above it and I believe it was my nan and Grandads shop but sadly I didn’t get to meet them 😢
Ms. F-C., I have an image of a page from the 1901 Census showing 139 King Street,Hammersmith (is that the address you’re interested in?) which shows a family of a different surname (Tompkins) living there . Don’t think I can attach it here.
kaj
I am looking into family history and believe that the address 139 Kings Rd was used as in 1908 as it was no longer residential. A false or untraceable address if you like. I have checked census 1901 but it appears to jump from 138 to 141 and my feeling is that by 1908 the property might have become a business and wondered if anyone could back this up. This would not have been done without very good reason and I would treat this info with respect.
No, not in what I have. Don’t suppose there’s a possibility that you’re looking at the schedule numbers by mistake, are you? I couldn’t find it on one of the genealogy sites (some have gaps where someone turned over 2 pages, or similar, on original photographing and sites bought them as is) but found it on another.
King Street East
Fulham & Hammersmith W14 & 6 Hammersmith Road @ 1885
King Street West Hammersmith W6 King Street @ 1900 King Street West
OK many thanks, King Street West runs from 73 – 93 with gaps which I assume became shops or businesses as did 139 – 140 King Street.
I think 139 Kings Road was the former snooker hall. It was, and is a big building with a wonderful frontage on King’s road. There was an entrance in Flood Street. It was various businesses over the years, but I don’t know much about it when it was originally built. It might be useful to check that this was 139 Kings Road originally. Not easy at the moment I know!
Cost of a bedsit in 1972?
Again with this Question it would very much depend on where the area was located and the facilities available. A one-bedroom bedsit in Chiswick could be about 18 shillings , £1 in Fulham and £1.26 in Notting hill. The size of the room and whether two people could share and perhaps a small kitchenette would also increase the price. A number of adverts for this time did not give prices and inspected people to enquire but occasionally there are a few amounts given for the cost per week
Hello, I would like to know how much a Bessie would have cost to rent weekly in 1972. Also the average wage for a computer operator .
Thank you.
Best Allan
This is a tricky it would very much depend on age experience computer used and obviously whether male or female in those days a check of the British newspaper archive for 72 indicates that the positions in the computer industry seems to indicate a good salary might be around £1600 per annum.for a computer operator
Cost of a bedsit in 1972?
Thank you. Much appreciated
Again many thanks
I’m trying to find information about the place I was born.
1961
Parsons Green
Nursing home ??
Hi,
I was born there too, 1966! It was a Maternity home. Their records are on the National Archives.
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=1558
It says it closed in 1970. What are you trying to find out?
Susie
I was born there in 1948 and my brother in 1951. It was a maternity hospital (like the one in Call the Midwife but without any Nuns). After the War there was an explosion of births (Known as The Boom) and this hospital was very busy for many years. So busy in fact that when I was taken to see my new baby brother, visitors other than fathers, were not allowed up in the wards. I can remember my mother coming out on the the balcony and holding him up so that my Grandparents and I could see him from down in the street.
After its closure it became a Family Planning Clinic which always amused me.
The building still stands and it looks as if it is now an apartment block. Its at at the ‘pointy’ end of Parsons Green very close to the Station and looks out over the Green.
In normal times the building operates a walk in Minor injuries clinic, it has a large doctors surgery practice and the rear of the building operates the podiatry service and children’s services etc.it is right next door to the White horse pub. Check it out on street view.
Nb the society is hoping to help publish a book about the Parsons Green area shortly written by Sue Pierson
Situated on the east side of Parsons Green and part of it is now within the campus of Lady Margaret Church of England girsl school. I was treated there as a baby in 1945 when it was a maternity clinic.
If you are not in the area and Google maps does not give a clear view, I have photos of Parsons Green, parts of Lady Margaret School and the building that was once the Receiving Home for the Board of Guardians (temporary home for children taken into care). Happy to send them to you. Susan Jeffrey
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Susan Jeffrey. Your photo of the Board of Guardians’ Receiving Home. I had a great aunt who died in Hammersmith in 1898. Her husband died in 1899. Their nine children were taken into care, Would they, first of all, have been taken to this Receiving Home? If so, may I have a copy of the photo please? Thanks. Stephen Lally
I am not sure if Hammersmith would be the same. It would depend upon how close I suppose. Researching ancestors on my grandmother’s side, many children ended up in the Parsons Green Receiving Home. If the part of Hammersmith is close, then perhaps. I imagine borders then were much more fluid. The area where I grew up changes from SW6 to W6 and I never knew. My period for the various children was twelve years beginning in 1893. On trip(s) to England I looked through the Board of Guardians’ records. Page after page of children, and they kept tabs on all of them. Where they went after taken into care, how much per week was paid for their upkeep, where they were placed at 14. I think they might now available on Ancestry. My email is suecjeffrey@yahoo.com. I will send the photo if you would like. Unfortunately the day I was there large equipment was parked in front of the building for road works but even so quite imposing to a child. Regards, Susan Jeffrey
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Can anyone recall in the 1950’s an electrical type tv repair shop in kings street/beavor lane Hammersmith ? There were flats above it?
Anyone know the family name Mott? Or Mingard?
I’m desperately looking for info on Hammersmith king street in around 1950. My dad is from there and born in king street/beavor lane I think palingswick house and wanting to see if any pictures of the area or info of the area around this time. My grandad was from this area and I never knew him…
Hi All, I come from a big family originating out of Fulham consisting of Foxs, Drakes, Pullens, Lawrence’s to name a few.
Just wondered if anyone lived in Fulham Court in the 60s and 70s and knew my mum Maureen Drake. Her dad was Charles ‘Bala, Drake and my Nan was Lil Drake?
My Dad Billy Fox was from Lewis Trust.
About 1963 I worked for a company called Moydens at Fulham cross they made windows for boats and busses, is there any photos or info on it
Thanks
Further to my comment about my Grandfather from Prothero Rd, his name was Peter Clarn.
My Grandfather and family lived at 20 Prothero Road and went to St Thomas of Canterbury Church and school, circa mid to late 1800’s.
I live in Australia so I can’t go and visit infact, in the 1980’s I did visit but the information had not been digitised. I’m hoping to find out more about his school years. He and brother went on to do an apprenticeship as a “Plaisterer and Modeler”
Hi, I grew up in Parsons Green on the New Kings Road and am trying to find any photos of the parade of shops where Bayley & Sage currently are. Ideally from the 60’s or 70’s but would be interested in any. I found the Express Dairy page on FB but they haven’t come up with anything yet. There used to be a bakery, fruit & veg shop, butchers, Express Dairy and a hardware store but can’t remember the actual name of any of them except for the Express Dairy. Also does anybody remember Mr Gaby, the cobbler who was an old soldier from WW1? He was such an amazing character and I think his shop was on the opposite side of the road along from the chemist C E Harrod, which I see is still there! Thanks in advance, Susie
Most roads in the borough were photographed in the 60s for the Archive. They also have street directories. When it re-opens do go along its above Hammersmith library or email the archivist.
Thank you, I will.
What school did you go to? I’ll ask my mum and dad
Hi Mick,
I went to the Marist Convent on the Fulham Road. Thanks for replying.
Susie
The Express dairy as i recall was originally Hickman s at no 32, the domestic stores i.e. oil merchants etc was Simpsons at 34, and i remember the last two shops only as a bomb site, where winkworths is now (nos.38 & 40. The Bakers was Shells, an anglicized version of the german surname Schiell I was told..
i remember Mr Gaby, always wore a brown overall, walked with a gammy leg, and had glasses. He was close by Yardeys in a sort of half shop I think opposite. I also remember the original Mr. C.E. Harrod, and his dispenser Mr. Bond. I was always amused that the Chemists stocked fertiliser and of course one could purchase chemicals from them, which of course is all that they are really, and they were in competition with the oil shop, with window displays in the early growing season.
Thank you so much for the information on the shops. My Mum said the name Shells rings a bell and Mr Gaby was just the best! I think he only had one leg but he was the best cobbler we’ve ever known! He must have bee opposite the bakery near the Post Office and the Launderette and I do remember his shop being very small with a lovely smell of leather. A real character.
Dear All,
I am a history teacher at Fulham Cross Girl’s School on Munster Road. Our Headteacher, Denise Fox, is retiring in July and has been at the school for over 35 years. She is Fulham born and bread and has a season ticket at Fulham F.C. The staff at the school would desperately like to make a book about the history of the school but do not know where to start. Is it possible to have any advice on how I/we get started on this?
Many thanks
Charlie Drew
Hello, I had the, erm…character-building (!?!), experience of attending the school in one of its earlier incarnations. If Ms Fox was born and bred locally, where was she, a pupil?. I daresay you’ll have gleaned what you can from your “Academy’s” website? Then, I’d suggest “Google” (other search engines are available 😉), using all the previous names for the school allowing for mistakes, spelling and otherwise, changing words around e.g. “County Secondary School, Fulham” as well as “Fulham County” etc. You’ll find the odd blog, facebook mention, “old girls” etc. Then, similarly, search LMA (London Metropolitan Archives) and TNA (The National Archives).
Hammersmith and Fulham Local archives here: http://www.apps10.lbhf.gov.uk/archivecat/
The following is a link to the papers of Mary Stewart, Baroness Stewart of Alvechurch (Governor of F.G. 1974 – 1980 etc) and Michael Stewart, Baron Stewart of Fulham (local M.P. >30 years) where mention of the school is made. https://archivesearch.lib.cam.ac.uk/repositories/9/archival_objects/483666
“F.C.” website doesn’t make it quite clear but “Fulham County” and “Gilliatt” schools were amalgamated to become “Fulham Gilliatt Comprehensive School” for Girls in 1973, in preparation for this, each school had halved its lower school intake for a couple of years. The “Comprehensive” ideal was somewhat, forestalled by the fact that all senior posts were taken by F.C. teachers, ĺikely, Tories to a woman but perhaps with superior C.V.s? So instead of the, “streaming” according to subject, used at “Gilliatt”, a 2 school system was adopted, whereby the Gilliatt classes were automatically entered for CSEs and the F.C. giirls for “O levels”! I joined “Gilliatt” in 1971, its Lower School was in Finlay Street then. Later the Fulham Cross and Hawksmoor buildings were used and I can remember us, literally, taking 2 steps forward and 1 back, at times, in order to delay getting back to those lessons which we hated, at Fulham Cross, citing the journey and hoping the teacher of that class thought we’d been “let out” late, in reality, it was only round the corner.
Sadly, I can only recall one mention of Alice Gilliatt, during an assembly at Finlay Street, I think, a Suffragette sash (possibly Alice’s own) was produced, perhaps by a relative, I often felt quite ashamed that the ambition and zeal she demonstrated during, her, lifetime, was not much in evidence at the school which bore her name. I was given to understand that there was some regulation which didn’t allow a full name to be used within a certain period after a person’s death. There’s a short piece about A.G. and there are 1 or 2 other images of her online as there are of the school, staff, etc. I’ll send some more links later as I’m currently using my phone-bad habit!
Only one Fox family from Fulham 😉
Does anyone know why Dancer Road in SW6 is called “Dancer”. Thank you
Mark,
It was probably named after the Dancer family, one of the parish’s oldest families. Dancer’s Nursery used to cover about 47 acres from Munster Road to the grounds of Park House, Parsons Green, extending back towards Rectory Lane and Parsons Green Lane.
Mark
thank you Mark. Very helpful
Hi, trying to locate a place of birth on a birth certificate from 1856: “Fitch’s Market Ground (Wilcox’s)” – it is prefixed by a word I can’t read, perhaps Jon or Jim.
Does this mean anything to anyone? The address of the mother was 22 Parsons Green Lane, Fulham. So I assume it would be close to there.
Thanks in advance.
Yes, Patrick, quite possibly. There were a lot of market gardens leading down to the river up until about (?)25-30 years after this date (someone correct me if I’m wrong, please) and Parsons Green Lane would have led to them. Hope I’m not “leading you up the garden path” with the following information:
It was mentioned in a gardening book published in 1824 that “Southfield Farm” (“which produced the first Auricula” and “first Pine Strawberry”) had been a Market Garden/Nursery for >2 centuries and up until the start of that century was in the family of a Mr. Rench who was said to have had either 33 children and died aged 99 y.o. or had had 35 children (and 2 wives) and had died aged 101 y.o., (in 1783, in the same room in which he had been born), somebody disputes both and says he was only 83 y.o.! It was said that Elm Trees planted on Birdcage Walk and in St.James’ were grown by him in his garden. One of his daughters married a Mr. Fitch and this man continued the business.
On the 21 August 1831 “Bell’s Weekly Messenger” reported that amongst the entertainments advertised to celebrate the Queen’s birthday (this would be William the Fourth’s Queen, Adelaide’s, birthday, the 13th of August) at Vauxhall Pleasure Gardens was a hot air balloon display. It seems they landed, after about an hour and a half (about 23:30 hrs.) in a field “near Parson’s Green” belonging to a Mrs. Fitch who seems to have been quite affable and attended to all their needs-the “Aeronauts” arrived back at V.P.G. at about 2:30 a.m.
Are any of your family gardeners? Was the helpful Mrs. Fitch or a decendant involved? Did this lady go into labour whilst working in the fields?
The current 22 Parsons Green Lane, appears to have been built a little later than the time of the birth, I think most of the house building in Fulham took place between about 1880 and 1905 (again others know better than me) and this would have included the site of most of the Market Garden(s). I note, however, that, next door – Swan House, 24 Parsons Green seems somewhat older in origin and possibly formerly a Public House. There seems some confusion and possibly conflation of the “lost pubs” named “Swan” or “White Swan” in the area.
In the 1840s and 50s large parts of south Fulham were market gardens, Fulham was especially known for carrots! but I have seen an old engraving of watercress ponds as well. I can’t find a specific mention of one named after Fitch or Wilcox.
Most of the labourers who have come to Fulham in this period were either direct from Ireland or of Irish descent (both sides of my mothers family came to Fulham during this time) and the census records of 1841 and 1851 are full of agricultural workers. Most were Catholic and this led to the building of St Thomas of Canterbury’s church and later to Holy Cross.
The Parish church (CofE) remained All Saints by Putney Bridge. It is possible that All Saints might have records of the baptism as in those days Catholics were sometimes ‘double dipped’ so to speak! As we did not have our own church at that time I think its likely that the child would have been christened at All Saints. Some of my family were. Also the Fitch family would almost certainly have connections to All Saints unless they were of a ‘chapel’ background.
Good luck with your search
Kaj and Basil
Thank you both for your fascinating responses. As you may have gathered, I am trying to track down my GGG grandmother and have 2 possible candidates, who may be the same person. Abel Gorman living at 283 Parsons Green Road in 1851 and known as Abigail in 1856 when she gave birth in the Market Grounds, and had possibly become Mary in 1871 when she is in Peterborough Road.
She/they were from Cork, and were indeed “Garden Women.”
Thank you again for your insights.
Whoops! I think you’re implying your ancestor changed a lot more, than just her name, prior to giving birth! I was a bit surprised by a female being called “Abel” but I’ve been surprised before. I had a quick squint at the 1851 Census on my phone, a few things awry: “283” is the schedule number not a house number (there’s not a house number given on that page), its not Parsons Green “Road” but “Lane”, Abel’s age is given in the MALE column. I know none of this is full-proof, which is shown by “Find My Past” having transcribed Abel’s relationship to the head of the household as “Daughter” when the image shows “Lodger”- (I’ve reported this to them) presume this is what led you astray ;-).
p.s. thanks from me too, Basil, seems we were on the right track. I came across an fhss self-guided walk, written by Maya Donelan for “Open House”, which says:
“Further down Peterborough Road on the left is South Park which opened in 1904 when local benefactress Miss Charlotte Sulivan sold the land to the Fulham Borough Council for use as a public recreation ground. The land, formerly known as Broom House Farm and Southfields Farm, had been part of the Sulivan private lands though it had been leased to Messrs Veitch & Sons of Chelsea as a nursery for fruit trees.”
I’ll look at some more when my eyes have recovered a bit. Cheers Kaj
Hi Kaj,
Yes, I made the assumption that Abel is in fact a shortened version of Abigail (as per the name of the mother on the birth certificate in my original post), and that maybe the gender was recorded incorrectly partly thrown by daughter in the transcript, which is actually lodger as you spotted
But I think you are right, and I will discount that now. 1871 census puts my GG grandfather at 2 Peterborough Lane (this time the number not the schedule 🙂 )so will take it from there.
Very many thanks for your insight.
See our posts of 14 Apr and 25 Aug 2020 and our book on West London Nurseries
Southfield Farm was in the area of the present South Park, Clancarty Road , Daniel Fitch ddied in 1858. it was acquired by the Veitch’s in 1865, when the last Finch disposed of it an then in 1903 by Fulham council for £35, 000 ( Feret) and (Wilson West London Nursery Gardens.)
Baptism records are at the LMA, but could be available on Ancestry.com
Here are the tombstone inscriptions
E141. Headstone
Sacred / to the memory of / Mr. THOMAS RENCH / who departed this life / March 31st 1728 / aged 98 years / Also Mr. HENRY FITCH / late of this Parish / who departed this life / May 23rd 1847 aged 50 years / Also Mr. THOMAS CLARKE / brother in law of the above / who departed this life / July 24th 1852 in his 61st year / Also Mr. WILLIAM FITCH / late of this Parish / who departed this life / February 1st 1856 in his 56th year / Also Mrs. ELIZABETH CLARKE / relict of the above THOMAS CLARKE / who died 7th Jan. 1862 / in the 74th year of her age.
E142. Headstone
Under this stone / are deposited the remains of / NATHANIEL RENCH / late of this Parish gardener / who departed this transitory life / January 18th 1783 aged 101 / Added to this remarkable instance of / longevity he enjoyed unimpaired / the full powers of his FACULTIES / until a short period of time previous / to his dissolution possessing in an / eminent degree SOCIAL VIRTUES / It may justly be applied to him that / an honest man is the noblest work of God / Also ELIZABETH his wife who died / April the 21st 1800 aged 72 years.
Note: In 2017 the footstone matching this headstone was found at location B59.
E143. Headstone
Sacred / to the memory of / Mr. DANIEL FITCH / late of this Parish / who departed this life / August 4th 1818 in the 71st year of his age / He was a kind husband a good / father & a sincere friend / patient in sickness & in his death resigned / Also Mr. NATHANIEL RENCH FITCH / son of the above / who died the 6th day of September 1825 / aged 44 years / Also Mrs. JEANNETTE FITCH / wife of Mr. WILLIAM FITCH / who died 5th July 1833 / aged 28 years / Also Mrs. ELIZABETH FITCH / daughter of NATHANIEL RENCH / and wife of the above DANl. FITCH / who died March 20 1834 aged 77 years / Also MARY, daughter of the above / who died Jan. 10th 1842 aged 62 years / Also Mr. DANIEL JOHN FITCH / late of this Parish / who departed this life / February 8th 1858 in his 74th year.
Note: In 2017 the footstone matching this headstone was found at location B24.
Thank you. 🙂
Hi Jane
I think these locations are not in F&H area?
Just looking to find any photos or news reports on the gas explosion in Mcdonald’s on King Street Hammersmith in the early 1980’s. I do remember it quite vividly even though I was about 7 but have looked for years now and can’t find nary a mention of it.
Thank you
Yours sincerely
David Nugent
Hello David, so far have only seen a small piece reporting that neighbours were complaining about noise of rebuilding a McDonald’s in King Street, after a water heater explosion which had occurred in May 1987. The only illustration was a photo of a pile of bricks! Armed with this information (presuming this is the incident in question?) there must be more to find. I’ll let you know.
Hello,
I am looking for any information on my great, great grandfathers school 4 The Terrace (Chiswick? Turnham Green) listed in the 1881 census. He was Dr. William White and his son George Marcus Chapman White was a tutor there. Could anyone confirm the site wasThe Terrace by Barnes bridge? It was a school with quite a number of young men listed from countries all around the world.
Thank you.
Jane White
I am looking for the photographer who may have worked in The Emerald in Hammersmith back in 1965 who photographed my parent’s wedding at the Holy Trinity Church, Brooke Green. I’m trying to locate the negatives I know it’s a long shot but you never know.
I am trying to locate some information regarding a Dr Knollys School in Fulham, extant late 18th c. Can you help?
Hi there,does anyone remember a toy shop on Fulham Broadway in the 1970s,it was stacked floor to ceiling with boxes but you could always get what you wanted,i remember going there with my grandmother,all my family lived in Fulham but no one else remembers this shop even though my brother used to go in there too,any information would be really helpful
Have you looked to see if there was a business directory for that time period, also look at local newspapers as advertisements usually carry address
I remember Patrick’s on Lillie Rd
Yeah i remember Patrick’s and think it’s still there,the one I’m thinking of was on the parade of shops at Fulham Broadway just before the station,i have a feeling it was called Phelps?
I remember that shop. It was opposite The Granville I believe. Might have been called Tedder Todds.
Yes it was opposite the Granville,thank god some one else remembers it i would love to see photos of it
Hi Jo, Referring to my previous response to you I am beginning to think that the shop in question may not have been Tedder Todds. I think they were a sports shop somewhere closeby to the toy shop. The toy shop is very much in my memory from my early years in Fulham.
Hi John,yes it’s very much in my memory too my nan used to take me in there on the way home from school and often buy me something,I’m just so glad others remember it and no one in my family does and this has been driving me mad for a long time
I remember a little toy shop just along from the station. It was stacked inside with shelves you could hardly get around the aisles. Next door was a driving school with a road scene in the window with little Dinky toy cars, traffic lights etc. My children were toddlers in about 1972 and loved going in the toy shop and gazing in the driving school window. . I am trying to recall the name.
Thank you so much for that information i actually started to doubt if the shop actually existed as none of my family or friends remembered it
Thank you so much i started to doubt if it actually existed as none of my family remembered it
Trying to recall name. It had a devastating fire and lost all its stock and reopened in a new shop opposite St John’s church but didn’t last many years after that. Never went into the new shop but as I recall it had a similar appearance. The original toy shop was next door. Lemons The jewellers and the motoring school w the cute traffic signs in the window was I think the British School of motoring BSM. I think there was another toy shop in Harwood parade With the name Woodward’s.The guy used to close one hour for lunch at midday and go home for dinner. That was the next door to Gyer, Hill and GyerPainting and decorating specialists. Not to be confused with Green and London, Where the present HSBC bank is.
Thank you so much,i would love to see photos if anyone has any
Thank you i would love to see photos
Hi Jo
I think you are correct in suggesting the name Phelps.
Hi,yes this is the name that is in my mind but can’t really find anything relating to it apart from other people remembering the shop
Hi, there’s a toy shop that matches your description that’s been going for years but it’s in lillie road just off of north end road so it’s a stones throw from Fulham Broadway. It’s called Patrick’s. I wonder if that’s the one you’re thinking of? It had everything including a working train set in the window. If so its still open today!
Seeking information about Henry George Ming and his parents, William Henry Ming and Maria Elizabeth Stead: Can anyone tell me anything about 9 Little Brook Green Place, Boarding House in the time of my fathers birth, in 1906. Although his birth is recorded as Fulham, Hammersmith, I see that there is a record reg: 1 Jan 1907 346 in Rsg Bk 25 that the family were registered as living at 9 Little Brook Place. Boarding House . In 1915 when Arthur Henry was killed in WW1 (recorded on the Helles Memorial) they were living at 4 Somerset Place , Ship Lane and still were in 1930 and 1932 he is shown as still at 4 Somerset Place, but in the Hackney area. . Dad’s father William Henry Ming died in 1933 , occupation a journeyman blacksmith. It looks like he was still living at 4 Somerset Place although his death is recorded 63 Volume 1a Page 197 at 28 Marloes Road,(was this a hospital?) Auricular fibrillation and Heart failure25 Feb 1933 • Kensington, London, England. Did the names of the census areas change all the time? very confusing!!!!. The 1939 register shows Dad and his Mum were at 369 Lonsdale Road. in Barnes (?)
As we now live in NZ I’d really appreciate it if anyone can enlighten me as to any interesting details to help me get the feel of where they were in the early 1900’s. Only Dad and Uncle Jack survived to the WW2 days. Most of the family died very young: William 1895 96 Bronchial pneumonia, Arthur: 1898 – 1915 killed in Turkey (Helles memorial) age 17, not 19 as recorded in records) Alfred 1901 – 1923 Bronchial pneumonia, colitis and heart failure) Richard 1902 – 1905 tubercular meningitis, Ann 1909 – 1914 measles, which left remaining sister Florence who died in 1916 who according to reports, commited suicide, which we query as she apparently was recently happily married but the coroners report originals are “lost”. Family question the verdict. No wonder the poor mother was categorized in the 1939 census as being “incapacitated”!!
Any help would be gratefully received!
Mags Meechang New Zealand
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 1:37 PM The Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society wrote:
> Tracy commented: “Hi, there’s a toy shop that matches your description > that’s been going for years but it’s in lillie road just off of north end > road so it’s a stones throw from Fulham Broadway. It’s called Patrick’s. I > wonder if that’s the one you’re thinking of? It had ” >
Exactly what do you want to know? It would help if your question was more specific. The information given is not clear. Who was the Dad? Who was Arthur Henry Andy where did he fit in? We are not psychics! By the way, during the WW1 young men often lied about their age, adding a few years, so that they could join the Army to fight.
I want to know if there is anyThing you know about the addresses I mentioned. Any photos I could source. Henry George Ming was my dad. The other names were his siblings their causes of deaths indicate to me that their living conditions were not healthy. Were they poor housing areas? Are they still evident in Hammersmith? Sorry if you found my message unclear! It was clear to me!!!! Mags
Hello again,
I’ll try to answer your questions as much as I can.
Barnes is on the other side of River Thames, southwards, from Hammersmith. Lonsdale Road is still there.
Marloes Road is in Kensington which is east of Hammersmith.
Little Brook Green is a small area between Hammersmith and Shepherds Bush (just north of Hammersmith).
Nowadays, these areas consist of upmarket residences. Mostly Victorian properties which have been converted / done up.
As far as BMD registration is concerned, the registration districts are large and covers a number of smaller districts. The Fulham Registration District include Hammersmith, West Kensington as well as Fulham itself.
The LBHF Archive / Library should be able to help. I believe they have a collection of old photos of the locality.
Regards, Ian
Brilliant…
I know ship lane was bombed out during the war, and the few photos I have found show that area very rundown and written stuff indicates a slum condition along the rivers and creeks. Articles on the measle pandemics show the whole area was hit very hard, so your info added to that gives me a clearer vision of their circumstances. I’ve been told many records were destroyed during the bombings of. WW2.thanks for your time. I’m now searching photographs in a collection by Frith. Fingers crossed. Nga mihi ( thankyou in Maori)
Hello, I am looking for information on the Gillon Family 69 Dieppe Street, Fulham. Arthur and Pamelia Gillon. My cousin is looking to trace his father’s family. I was wondering if anyone would know if they had children. Thank you.
Hello Maria
You might like to give a little more information such as the years involved.
We are not a genealogy site but you may be lucky and get some helpful replies. If it is in the modern era you could search the electoral register on Ancestry or Find my Past or at the archive when it opens next month. Free BMD is also useful.
Good luck
Tailors’ Shop at 309 New King’s Road
I am interested in the history of 309 New King’s Road. I have a photo of a man standing outside the tailoring shop – it looks like it is from the early 20th century. Many of my family were tailors in the 19th and 20th centuries, and I am researching my grandfather Edgar Harold Tomlin. He lived in Gowan Avenue, Fulham in 1911 with his father Julian and brothers Julian and Montague, all tailor’s cutters, and I believe that he worked in the shop at 309 New King’s Road between the wars. He lived next door at 307 in 1939. Please get in touch if you would like me to send you a copy of the photo.
I looked up the shop today it is a clothes shop. I happened to be perusing EBay today, searching for Kings Road and came across two pieces of ephemera. A new photo of an old postcard/picture of Mickle, Bootmaker, outside 309 and an enquiry from a Mr Frank Linzell, Builder of 309 (about renting a property). Quite a coincidence. You might like to find these. Also see street maps where you can see the entrance to the flats above these shops, (307?) if you haven’t already.
I lived all my life in Chelsea until 2005. I will keep your search in mind. I would love to see a copy of your photo.
Hi Lesley
Thanks for following up my post. Unfortunately you are referring to King’s Road rather than New King’s Road.
I can email the photo if that can be done. I have a website about my dad which has my contact info. https://myrafkoggala.weebly.com/contact.html
Julian
I am doing family history on the family of George Massey who lived in Fulham and Chelsea in the late 19th century. The Massey had lived at 44 Flood Street and then moved to 88 Rectory Road. George’s son, Robert, was living in Sefton Villas in 1884 and George’s daughter, Annie Elizabeth, was living there in 1890. I am trying to discover more about the family and this area. Also I am interested in Henry William Scaife who was an advertising news agent and was living in Fulham Pt. Gardens and working
Are you able to assist? I purchased a very elegant guilded decoration/hand painted pocelain ladies? walking cane in the 70s. It is engraved E Astley, 14 Musgrave Crescent, Walham Green. I am aware Walham Green was incorporated into Fulham in the 50s. My questions…. was E Astley a person of note ? Did she live in Musgrave House and is this a building of Historic Interest?
Hello, I’m looking for info on the Coleman’s building starch green,
Hello – I wondered if someone might kindly be able to help. I am looking for a map of the old metropolitan borough of Fulham as at 1965? Thanks!
This map and several others at the wonderful National Library of Scotland show the boundary..
https://maps.nls.uk/view/189259151 enjoy your research.
I have uploaded a copy to the Backtrack Fulham Facebook page for you.
Hi. I am looking for any information you may have relating to one Frederick Ernest Cooper, b:20/1/1877, Harrold, Bucks. He resided at 36 Humbolt Road, Fulham in March 1891 when he was recorded as being an Apprentice Wheelwright. It is possible to assume that he was apprenticed to one Frank Pearson who was a Wheelwright and the head of the household at the same address on the 1891 Census. Frederick married Rose Ambrose in 1895 and they continued to live in Humbolt Road until moving to 44 Gastein Road, some time before the 1901 Census was taken and on which Frederick is still shown as being a Wheelwright.
Frederick eventually moved to Wilstone in Herts and took on the Half Moon PH there, dying in the same area in 1943.
If you have any information regarding Wheelright shops in Fulham that Pearson, or Cooper may have worked in/owned, it would add a lot to my research.
Many thanks
Clive Reedman
John wheeler had a motor repair garage in the corner next to the large bakery John also built and rented out market stalls and hand barrows I remember a wheelwright working for him but sorry I didn’t know his name this would been in the fifties I don’t know how long he worked for John
My dad was a policeman at Hammersmith.He was on duty one night on Hammersmith Bridge…during ww2.He fought two Irish men he said were R.I.A
One ran off.the other grappling with dad,fell over the bridge and hit his head on an iron part of the bridge,and fell in the water.He did die. Has anyone anymore information on this episode please.
Hello,
I am looking for a copy of PARADISE WALK – CHELSEA
The History of a Chelsea Street 1796-1994 by Leslie Bairstow and wondered if anyone could help with this.
I have recently discovered that my forebears named Edwards lived there in the first half of the 1800s and I would love to read about the place.
Thank you.
Sue Locke
Hi
I am Lesley Bairstow. Did we have contact before about getting a copy of my book? It has been out print for many years but if you could reply to me with your own email so I could contact you off this site, it would be easier to help you. Regards.
Hello, thanks for replying. I haven’t had co tact with you before. I can be contacted at mastermum@hotmail.com Many thanks, Sue Locke
Hi, Is it possible I could buy a copy of your book too? I would very much like to read about the road.
Thanks, Rachel
Hi Rachel
I am in the process of trying to get a reprint of ‘Paradise Walk’ if and when this happens I will be able to send out copies. I hope this is of help to you. Meanwhile if there is any particular family you are looking at I might be able to help if you let me know who they were.
regards, Lesley Bairstow
Thanks so much for getting back to me. I live near by – so just pure interest.
Do you happen to do house/street histories in the Chelsea area? I would love to have one done.
Best – Rachel
Hi Rachel,
I would do more research on Chelsea Streets but I don’t live there any more. When I did Paradise Walk I was suffering with ME so it was very hard for me to actually complete it. I now live in Wiltshire. Out of interest what street are you interested in? I lived in Chelsea all my life until 2005 so I do know quite a lot about it.
regards, Lesley
Thx for getting back – and I am sorry to hear about your ME. How difficult… About five years ago, we moved to Paultons Square which I love. During lockdown, I spent an awful lot of time walking the streets and reading about Chelsea. Most recently I read A Chelsea Concerto by Frances Faviel – which mentions Paradise Walk… which is why I wanted to read your book.
my email just in case is rachel@horne-stone.co.uk
Hi, does anyone have any photos of Turners flower shop on Beadon Road Hammersmith. I’m looking for photos of the old Turners when Joan and Fred ran it. It was a small wedge of a shop and then the next shop was open next door. Thank you
I have a photo of Beadon Rd in about 1910 if its any use. My grandfather had a bicycle shop there (Rosebery Cycles) in about 1898 – 1902 and I always live in hope of finding a photo of it
Suggest you join the Old Hammersmith Market remembered site on facebook and ask question
I am curious to find out if anyone knows the origins of the name Everington Street. It is my family name and is unusual. Many thanks.
Looking for any information on William George see b1876 boat builder hammer smith and William Biffen hammer smith boatbuilder
Hi Barbara, sounds like you are looking for one of my forebears, my father Walter See had a boatyard between Hammersmith Bridge and the pier called Hope Wharf.
His father Charley See I believe started it but I don’t know when. I have an old photograph taken from Hammersmith Bridge of o lot of skiffs for hire.
Biffs said I think I saw them mentioned in a documentary on the Thames about boatyards, it was on you tube.
Should read Biffens
Geoffrey, I have you in my ancestry, as well as your father and Grandfather, my maiden name was See, and you are my 3rd cousin!
Geoffrey, I have got back to 1740, another Charles See who married a Hannah Bird. I too would like to connect directly with you, so we could share our ancestry better. If its allowed by the admin/moderators, my email address is heatherpotts121@hotmail.com. If my email address is not allowed, perhaps Admin/moderator could forward it on? I am certainly curious about your Grandmother, would love to hear about her.
William George See, boatbuilder, was actually born 9 APR 1867, he is my 1st cousin 2x removed. I have his ancestry back to his Great Grandparents, and forward to his Great Grandchildren, so I can tell you a lot. 2 of William Georges brothers, Charles and John, entered the Doggetts Coat and Badge Race, John actually won it in 1899.
Hey ! That’s great ! I spent most of my working life as a butcher and had a shop in Chiswick near Goldhawk Road, one time a customer announced that he was Alan See and I replied that he couldn’t be because Alan See was my brother and he didn’t look anything like him. It turned out he had researched the See family and had done a tree, which I have ( somewhere)
He had got back to 1750 ish
Another customer once asked me if I had a nephew called Gary I said I did, he then told me he had played golf with him I said my nephew didn’t play golf so there is another branch you may be aware of.
I knew that John won Doggetts, a family story said my father was hot favourite to win but someone smashed his boat the night before the race, true or not I don’t know.
It would be good to follow up, hope to hear from you.
My grandfather Wilfred Harvey Smith, whom I never met, owned an off licence called The Cromwell Stores in the 1950s at 64 Shepherds Bush Road. My father took over the shop in the early 1960s and I wondered whether anyone has any photos of the premises from back then.
It has most recently been a motorbike shop i believe. Any information/photos would be gratefully appreciated.
Hi there was a Beaufort house school in Lillie Rd Fulham but there has been a lot of redevelopment in that road but there are old blocks of flats!
Hi,
I tried to reply to my previous thread but it would not submit. Thanks for the tip on Church/Rylston Road.
I am also looking for Shuters (how its spelt in the Will) Terrace and Beaufort Villas, any ideas on where these may have been, I’ve been searching various maps all day to no avail.
George Mullenger owned 4 properties in Church Road, 8 on Sun Street which I have found, two on ‘Shuters’ Terrace and was living at 8 Beaufort Villas when he died in 1872. The earliest Map I’ve found in 1865 but I can’t find it on there and neither can I locate it on any later ones.
Thanks
These two places I believe are right on the postal district borders of SW6 and W14 in the Star Road/ Northend Road area
Can anybody help finding a photograph of Philip and Tacey Ltd 69 Fulham High Street they moved to Fulham in 1919 and moved in the 1960’s.
…. can I suggest you look at the Electoral Rolls, some of which are on line, and also Trade Directories…… if there were any known children of the marriage the LMA has bpts of some London Churches on line.
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April, I think you may have replied in error to this thread, which is asking for a photo of the Fulham High Street premises of a school supplies company, named “Philip & Tacey Ltd”.
This firm according to companies house still seems to be in existence, if it’s the one Founded in 1902 I suggest you write to their archivist.
Thank you, good idea!
I am researching my family history. My grandfather (George Edward Morse) lived at 78 Langford Road in 1891. His father (Henry) was a baker and he was a “baker’s boy.” Are there any pictures of 78 Langford Road which are available on the internet. Thank you. Catherine
I am looking for members of the Bonner family, last known address is 32 Milton Road, London. Names I have are Mable, Dolly, Thomas, Fred.
Im not sure if this will help, but my Uncle Les Bristow married Freda Bonner from London. Freda was the daughter of Robert Bonner (1872 -1949 ) and Mary Turner (1878 – 1947) . Roberts father was Fred Bonner (1828 – 1887) born St Marys Islinton, Middsx died Buckingham Bucks. The Bonner family has put together a history and you can contact them through my cousins. I can give you a contact email if you contact me through my email, magsmeechang@ mail.com. Hoping this helps. Mags.
magsmeechang@gmail.com
Hello, according to their marriage certificate my parents were married from St James church Fulham, my mothers address being Blakes Road Fulham. I cannot find any record of either. Are you able to help me on this please. Thank you. David Chilvers
St Jame’s Church was on the Fulham Road close to Maxwell Road. There was a Blake’s Wharf in Stevenage Road Fulham.
This church is often referred to at St James moore park road. Try this link to registers .
https://aim25.com/cgi-bin/vcdf/detail?coll_id=14817&inst_id=118
I’m looking for photos of old hardware shop Bradshaws
Do you have any information on address or which part of the Borough?
The archives in Hammersmith Library are the obvious source when they reopen but will probably need more to go on than just a name.
Hello. I am researching family history. My grandparents were married at the Fulham register in May 1913 and her address was given as 26 Dawes Road. The 1911 Census does not have her as a resident at Dawes Road. If she or the Gray family had bought or rented 26 Dawes Road, how can I find documents supporting this? Or any other information relating to Lilian Gray who lived in Fulham at that time. Thank you for any help in advance!
If Fulham was in Middx at that time you could try looking in the Middlesex Deeds register at the LMA – it may be time consuming so try speaking to an archivist first.
Thank you April, I will follow this up.
The public library will have voting registers and these will give an indication yearly when they may have lived there, they may have been elsewhere on census night.
Have a look at the Facebook page for Fulham a community page for your memories – and search for Musgrave Crescent- you will find several on there
Hello. I’m looking for old photos (early 1900s) of Musgrave Crescent? I have Patrick Loobey’s book and it has what feels like every street but that one! It even has Favart Rd, on the other side of Eel Brook Common, but nothing for Musgrave Crescent.
Many thanks in advance.
Melissa
Your may find it easier to look for Eel Brook common.As the road is higher than the common it often features in shots of the common.
Britain in old photographs …fulham by Christine Bayliss and Jane Kimber has an Edwardian shot of the common with the crescent in the background but it is a long way back. It’s morethe New Kings road end.
Hiya have just found out that my ancestors by the name of Jennings lived at the swan laundry blythe lane, am searching and searching for any photos or any old memories from the 1920’s era
Hi. I’m looking for a fred moore who lived in Cheam or tooting Surrey. He was dating a lady in Queens road new malden surrey in 1935 called Violet adkins. Anyone help find information plz. Fred also went to wormwood scrubs prison.
Looking for the Sunday league chairman for Hammersmith and Fulham in 1970’s was also the county counciler and a chauffer
Hello Lisa, are you by any chance the L. Poulter, who took History A-Levels in 1988 at York Sixth Form College? p_vonbrandt[at]hotmail.com
Have you ever come across Fulham being referred to as “Soap city” ? Thanks
I thought that South Acton was called Soap Suds City in the 1880s and 1890s. In the days when mains water came from local springs and bore holes this area had very soft water and there were dozens of laundries there as the washing was much softer. I had a relation who moved there (Palmserston Road) as a laundress and in the 1891 census nearly every other house was a laundry. https://www.bpra-web.org.uk/soapsud and http://www.chiswickw4.com/default.asp?section=info&page=conhistory076.htm
Yes there were many laundries in Acton and also I believe in Kensal Town where my ancestor was a laundress.
Thank you Stephen and Lesley. This was a query from someone during an online talk, so I thought this would be a good place to ask on their behalf. You might well be confirming the suggestion made at the time, that Acton was the area most known for laundries; although, undoubtedly, Fulham had its fair share of laundries, given its position in London, probably not particularly remarkable. Cheers
Hi, I am researching some properties that an established builder built in the early 1800s. He left various properties to his children when he died in 1872 but some of them were inhabited by them in previous census records also. The builders name was George Mullenger and some of the properties he built were 1-6 church road cottages, fulham and George himself lived at 6 Beaufort villas, fulham when he died and gave the impression that he own more than one on that road also. I am waiting on a transcription of the will to be 100% certain. I am trying to locate any information on these properties in particular old pics as I cant see that they still exist now but also haven’t been able to identify them on old maps either.
Thanks
Sam
Church Road is now Rylston Road.
The archive is likely to be the best source of photos and has an extensive collection of maps.
Good luck with your research.
This website is extremely helpful as you can pinpoint specific locations and then overlay them with older or newer maps: https://www.layersoflondon.org/
Hi
I’m trying to find out about the death of my great uncle in 1933 Leonard Webb, he was 23.
He was knocked off his bike in Latimer road, Hammersmith by a drunk driver and died in Hammersmith hospital. He was my nans little brother and she constantly talked about it.
I managed to find a newspaper article about the incident but it seems lots of details were left out of the report. It does tell me where the inquest was held, the name of the coroner and the name of the man accused, and the name of the doctor who treated him.
I’d like to see if I can get hold of a report from the hospital or the coroner’s report.
I’ve had a look online but I’m lost where to start and I keep going around in circles.
Can you point me in the right direction please?
I looked at this site. Which contained these words of advice!
“The 1921 ruling also advised that more recent records need only be kept for 15 years. All coroner inquest records are closed to the public for 75 years, although next of kin can apply for access. Look for the coroner’s name under the ‘cause of death’ column in a death certificate which indicates a coroner’s inquest took place.” Which seems to contradict itself.
Sorry cannot be more helpful. Perhaps one of you regulars will ahve the answer.
No it is helpful thanks!
A good source for finding details about a coroners report is in the local newspaper where these cases are, more often than not,reported
the inquest exonerated the driver as it was a genuine accident
I have the small from the newspaper report which can send
Thanks for this I’ve asked for my email address to be forwarded onto you. I think it may be the article I already have but I just want to check. It’s fantastic you’re able to find it so easily, it took me ages! 🙂
I know the driver was exonerated but the reality of what actually happened differs massively to the article which is why I’m interested to find out more about what happened to him. Its something my nan would’ve wanted and it’s in memory of my great uncle.
Many thanks
Hi,
Does anyone remember a College of Further Education at the bottom of Brook Green backing onto Cadby Hall (Lyons Cakes) and what its official name was?
I attended in the early 1970’s and am wondering when the college closed and what now occupies the site?
Would really like to get a photograph of the front of the college.
Any information gratefully received.
Hi, I think it was called the West London College for Further Education. I am not entirely sure. I did some O levels there in 1974. If I can find out or remember more I will let you know.
Lesley
The 1982 published English Brown Stoneware by Oswald, Hildyard & Hughes mentions a number of early stoneware bottles being in the possession of the Fulham & Hammersmith Historical Society. Do you still have them or have they been transferred to the Borough Archives?
regards, Philip Mernick
Not sure we have any property now, have asked our Chairman. He will be in touch if he is aware of their location.
I am a member of W Mx FHS and have just learned of the talk given by Keith Whitehouse regarding the White City Exhibition, which sadly I missed. …… my grandfather, Thomas Wood, was living in Claxton Grove, Fulham until 1905; he was a Journeyman Joiner, carpenter employer, not employee; he went on to be a Builders Foreman, working at the Irish Expo(1907) & Brussels Expo (1910); he travelled to Vienna c.1910 and also undertook work for The Southall Development Company.so it is likely that he also worked at The White City Exhibition. I have documentary evidence and also some excellent professional photos -but I am unable to identify location or the other rather smartly dressed men with my grandfather. So, I am looking for some advice………
I have passed your enquiry to our chairman, hopefully he will be intouch soon.
John
Thank you
Hello, I would like to make contact with Lesley Bairstow regarding her book Paradise Walk Chelsea. Can you help with this?
Thanks
Dawn
Hi Dawn, I am Lesley Bairstow who wrote Paradise Walk. I would be happy to help you with anything you would like to know. The book ran out of print copies years ago but I still have a few. Please get in touch here again if you would like to. Regards, Lesley
Hello I am wondering if you would like to contact me about Paradise Walk .
Excuse me butting in but I have only just seen this after I posted a similar request today. I do apologise for spelling your name wrong in my post. I am very keen to acquire a copy too if you have one left.
Sue Locke
Hello Dawn – I know you have been reaching out to me through social media but can we communicate another way? Kind regards Paula Ewington
Both my great grandparents and grand parents lived in the Avenues 14 Lodge and 14 Rock.If you go on to the Charles Booth’s poverty map of the late 1800s the Lodges are there where now stands Raversworth and Swan Courts . Thee great thing about the map is there is a slider that takes you from the late 1800s map to the present day map
Hello, I am writing a book that includes a chapter on Carlos Finlay, a Cuban scientist who played a major role in the elucidation of the means by which Yellow Fever is transmitted (i.e. by mosquitoes). Do we know whether Finlay street is named after him?
Kindest regards, Paul Reiter
I don’t think it was. Finlay street is one amongst the ‘alphabet streets in Fulham which were built in the early years of the 20th century. One company erected most of the estate moving southwards on what was previously farmland. They stopped at Harbord street and later a second company erected Finlay, Ellerby, Doneraile and Cloncurry streets. The common factor in the names is that people with those names were late 19th century politicians associated with London. Well in truth Finlay, Doneraile and Cloncurry were but I can’t find a prominent Ellerby.
These houses were sold for purchase at a time of an explosion of house building and roads were often named for local politicians.
I am sure Carlos would have been a better source as Lord Finlay although rising to become Lord High Chancellor and sitting on the woolsack for three years was thought to be of less than perfect character.
Hi
I am trying to find a picture posted in the Fulham chronicle in Sept 1961 of the wedding of Sybil Webb & Stanley Hocking. I have tried the archives but no luck so far
Thanks
My Grandmother Winnifred Horgan Finbow lived at 11 Kenneth Rd in Fulham during the 1911 Census. She was born 1906/07. She was left with the family of Charles Hobbs around 1914. They lived at 13 Archel Rd, W Kensington. Her parents never returned for her, although I have found evidence that they each married someone else and had other children. I can find no record of her birth, but she says she was born on Marlybone St. There seemed to be a hospital named Queen Charlotte laying in Hospital on that street and I am wondering if that was where she was born and if there would be any archived records and where I would find them, if they exist. Thank you for any help you may be able to offer.
Leslie
My husband’s ancestor George James Chivers and his brother Frederick Thomas Chivers, was at the Bradmore House School in Chiswick for a few years between 1851 and 1871. Do you have any records or photos of the school for any years during this period?
They were orphans yet spawned a long line of Chivers in the London area.
I am looking to chat with anyone who remembers/knows someone who knew my grandfather- Raymond Graham Hatfield- who worked at Messrs A J Carpenters catering contractors in White City in 1928. Or who knows family of Captain Hewitt the manager or Mr Stringer who was a partner in the company.
My grandfather absconded from work just before the Police came looking for him due to non payment of maintenance for his wife and four children!
Would love to here from anyone as I cannot trace him after this date!?
Many thanks for reading.
Linda
I have just discovered a relative of mine received the freedom of the city (London) on 6th April 1911. His name was Alexander Archer Barnes at it states Day Overseer. “Times” Newspaper.
Does anyone have any ideas what this may of been for?
I have been told that my great grandfather, Vincenzo Dimarco, had a barber’s shop on Bramley Road, Hammersmith in around the 1940’s and I just wondered how accurate this might be? As I cannot seem to find anything on the internet about a barber shop on Bramley Road! Any info would be greatly appreciated
Hi, I traced back my 3rd great grandfather (George Peter Haines) I know so far that he died in 1907 and lived at 71 Filmer Rd, Fulham but I’d like to know more and wondered what it would have been like in that area back in those times and what that particular road may have been like back then. I couldn’t find out what his job was or what type of jobs people in that area had. Any information would be much appreciated.
Fulham old and new by James Feret was completed about 1900 and is a volume work dealing with the history of the whole of Fulham however you can find it free to download on Google books and it is also available as a three volume paperback you might not want the whole work but you could use Google books to find the best volume fulfil my road I would also suggest perhaps a one month subscription to the British newspaper library you can select Fulham Chronicle and Weston on the server and read the weekly issues around the time that you are looking for which will give you an idea of the events that were happening in Fulham. Basically housing Estates were developing as the population of London expanded and transport systems became more successful so small farms,And stables that provided the horses for the buses were taken over along with market gardens to house the growing population
Hi, I am trying to find information on the existing buildings of the secondary school The Bridge AP academy at Finlay road. I found earlier pictures of the building when it was the Finlay girls school (arounf 1904), but nothiing more. do you know when the buildings were originally built and what additions were made in later years?
This is a test page
Hi, I’m trying to trace a lady who’s name is Helen mckeown, she lived at 71 Fulham park gardens in 1967, I can’t seem to find her or her household for that year,any information would be a great help, many thanks. Tamara.
Try 192.com, you will have to pay but it can be worth it especially if you can narrow down the area. I found a lost landlord that was holding up our extension of lease this way through locating relatives with the smae name in the area and then posting a note to them.
Good luck
You have not given us much to work on! I lived in Fulham Park Gardens in 1967 but don’t remember the name but its a long street and my home was the other end.
I see that three people named Helen McKeown married in London over the years following . One in 1969, another in 1973 and a third in 1982. If she was a young person in 1967 those might be worth following up.
Do you have any idea about her age, where she came from etc?
Thankyou for responding, I think she may have been 16, she was born in Ireland, she had a babyboy called Keith patrick mckeown born 13th feb 1967, I have found his birth certificate, but I can not find any other information on Helen.
I would be grateful for any Adelphi.
If she was born in Ireland she was probably Catholic. If so the baby was almost certainly baptised at Holy Cross RC church. They have a web site and might be willing to help you but I suspect you would have to say exactly why you are searching for the mother and the child.
If you think that the baby might have been adopted then there are people who can help you provided you are family (think of the TV show Long Lost Families as a possible lead). As you probably know that 71 FPG is a three storey end of terrace house. In the 1960’s those houses were mostly in multi occupation. Young people would rent a room and travel to work on the several local bus routes to the West End or use the nearby tube station of Putney Bridge.
If she was 16 in 1967 then the 1969 or 1973 marriages look a good bet to me.
Sorry I can’t help further.
Hi Tamara was Helen Mc Ewen married to a charles Mc Ewen if so i have some info for you there is a marriage for Helen in 1954 Wandsworth home address putney she was deceased in 1968.Age 72 she was my grandmother
How do you know her? From jean pikett.nee Royle
Try 60 Wadham ROAD Putney there is a Helen mc Ewen at this address
Hi Jean, Thankyou for replying my partner was addopted, born on the 13th February 1967. His birth name was Keith patrick mckeown, and the address given to the hospital by his birth mother Helen mckeown was 71 Fulham park gardens, we have been on many websites and organisations including NORCAP, but haven’t managed to trace Helen mckeown.
Reasons for the search are totally honourable
Thankyou for your time, kind regards Tamara & Keith.
Hi I wanted to find out whether their are any old school photos of ackmar road secondary modern school
HI in 1963 I was in a fire at 295 Munster road and was saved by a film producer it was in the paper just wondering if you might know more thanks
Unfortunately local newspapers for this state have not yet been added to the British newspaper library archive therefore you would have to check the hardcopy or get a check for you around that date in the local Hammersmith library when they reopen located in the Shepherd’s Bush Road check tCouncio website for details.
I couldn’t find the Add a Comment button mentioned above, so I hope this is the right place.
I wonder if you can help me find out more about my ancestor, Gerald Benney (or Jerrold Benny)? According to the 1861 census, he was 32 and living at 2, Hope Lane, Hammersmith (St Peter’s parish) and he was a boat builder. This appears to have been in a working class area. It’s possible he might have worked for Biffen’s, which was an old established boat building company on the Thames at that time. However, by 1871 he was living in Hope Cottages, Great Church Lane. On Booth’s Poverty map (admittedly later) this address is designated as middle class, well-to do. I am wondering now whether he worked for a boat builder, or had his own business. Is it possible to find out? Many thanks. J.Goodacre (Cape Town)
If you scroll down to the very end of the posts there is a box for leaving original posts. I have just used it for the post above.it’s about 2009.
Can anybody help please? I am trying to do my family tree. My Dad used to live down the bottom of Queen Caroline Street, I think Wellington Walk, In the 30’s, i think. Does anybody know if there was an Aukland House down there? Thanks.
Hello, I have been researching our family and I know that my Grandmothers family lived in Walham Avenue Fulham between 1908 and 1910 as it is written on the baptism certificates. They are then found on the 1911 census in Lodge Avenue Fulham. I can not find either of these addresses and was wondering if anyone can help? Many thanks Janice
Hi J both avenues were demolished many years ago and replaced with Lancaster and Swan Courts in Fulham Road SW6
Hope this helps
Hi my father was born in Lodge Avenue in 1909. They were very poor and he said it was a working class street with a reputation for being rough. It was I believe just off Fulham Road near what is now Fulham Court. If I come across any more information I will let you know.
Hi, My father grew up in Lodge Avenue in the 1910s. They were extremely poor and I gather the street was populated with the poor working classes. It was off Fulham Road near what is now Fulham Court. If I can find out more I will let you know.
Hello, wondered if anyone on here went to or knows anyone who went to St Augustine’s RC Primary School in Fulham from 1964-1971. We joined the baby class aged 4 or 5 when the school had just been built and were the first class to go all the way through the school. Just looking for old friends. Mr Maloney was the Headmaster and Miss Pink one of my teachers.
Hi I started st Augustine’s (think it was 1965) it was a brand new school, sadly I left in 1968 as we moved to Putney. I remember Mr Maloney, he used to give us a lift in his car to st Augustines when we first moved until I started my new school (our Lady of Victories). My friend at St Augustines was called Margarita and my teacher was Miss barrow. If you look on Facebook there is st Augustines page on there
I wonder if you have access to any records that could help me. I have been researching my family tree during lockdown and have a record of an ancestor who at the age of 14 was an inmate of a home at 5 Parsons Green in Fulham. This was originally built for the moral correction of young women and eventually became Fulham maternity hospital. Is there anything available, apart from the short items on the internet to discover its exact function in 1901 and what conditions would have been like.
Very many thanks for any suggestions you may have
Message for Jacqueline MOULDING. I think I can help here. I think you mean MELINA Road and the infant school was Westville Schoo ,l(just a few 100 yards from Melina Road. In fact Westville school was bombed in ww2 but built quite soon after, In fact in 1946 it was still being rebuilt and that year at the age of 5 I had a long walk to Wormholt infants. However I too attended Victoria Junior Girls. (do you remember a lovely teacher named Miss Ellingham ?). Did you go on a school journey ?I ived in Findon Road. not far from Melina Road, There was a fish and chip shop. a pub on the corner and further along in Greenside by the school was a bomb site (church?) where we played. Margaret ,
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Hi Mags, Thanku for replying. Yes it was Melina Rd and I lived there until 64 when the houses were pulled down. I remember Miss Ellingham well. She used to bring in sandwiches and cakes for after school. She was an inspiration to me. No, I didn, t go on any school trips. I remember Gregory the greengrocer, the sweet shop, the fish/chip shop and the Crown & Septre pub on the corner. Like u we used to play on the bomb site at the bottom of Lefern Rd?. Thanku for replying. Do u know how I can get photo, s or pictures of our area. I vaguely remember the street party for the Queens Coronation. Do you?
I’m try to find we’re 23 Avenue road Hammersmith was in 1930 and if the building still exists
Hi, I was hoping that there are photo, s and information specifically to Melinda Rd,, Shepherds Bush, London, W12..
I was born in no 1 Melinda Rd and then 35 Melinda Rd. We moved away from Melinda Rd in 64, when the houses were condemned and demolished as not fit for human habitation. I remember the remand school at the back of the yards, the bomb sites, the little row of shops opposite 35.
I also remember the little infant school, was it Westfield? I went to Victoria junior school in the 50,s and then Hammersmith County Council Secondary School.
Any info, pictures, memories would be much appreciated. Thank you.
I believe you mean Melina Road. If so try contacting this group: http://cpaag.blogspot.com/p/about-us-copy-this-commun-ity.html
Thanku for replying Peter. Did you live near Melinda Rd? I will try the site u gave me. Thanks.
No I didn’t live in Melina Road but I’ve recently been researching the history of the Crown & Sceptre pub
Hi Peter,. The Crown & Septre pub was the regular pub for my family, esp my father. I remember waiting for him outside for when he had finished his pint!
Good luck with your research. I didn, t get anywhere with the website you gave me for info on Melina Rd or the Moulding family. Perhaps I will be lucky soon.
Hi Jacqueline contact me on peteretrott@tiscali.co.uk
Hello Jaqueline,
I was in your class at Victoria Junior Girls and remember you. Miss Ellingham was a lovely teacher. I’ve never forgotten her either. I think I visited your house in Melina Road, but it’s so long ago that it’s a bit blurry now!. I’ve recently caught up with other children from Victoria and Hammersmith County Schools, all in our early 70s now…
Very best wishes.
Jan Ashworth
I wonder if anyone might be able to shed any light on a ‘Mr Bateman’ who was living (with some degree of wealth) on Hammersmith Road in the 1760s. Does anyone know how, or if it would be possible, to refine his identity further. A first name? He collected art and is mentioned in the notebooks of the artist George Vertue.
Hi,
My mum used to live in Lintaine Grove, Fulham W6 during her childhood years, and she can remember the road being bombed during the blitz years.
She remembers her parents house being the last one before Norman Park…..the family name was Morris.
Do you have any history or images from the period 1940-1964?
Thankyou
Mark Haggerty
mrkhaggerty@yahoo.co.uk
HI the burke family live in this road and the were all in the sam e house when it was bombed i940 it was a direct hit none survived all are buried in fulham Old cemetery London
Hi Mark I lived in Lintaine Grove and I have photos my email address is len48@live.co.uk
I new the Morris’s 👍
I wonder if you could kindly help me, I am looking for old photographs of Imperial Square SW6. Hopefully showing the square had grass in the middle. Us residents are being impacted by the huge development in the old gas works and unfortunately the historical square was not considered in the planning process so we’re trying to arrange to improve the square with an improved communal square area in the middle. Photographs would be a very big help please.
Wendy de Capell Brooke tel 07973 317663
Certainly in the 1950s the Square was still lit by gaslight as it was owned by the Gas light and Coke Company- the rest of Sands End was electric. Pity i never took any photos of it!
You could look up some of the Fulham face book sites like I grew up in Fulham
I am currently researching a pair of painted signs on what appears to be 60 Richmond Way (previously Richmond Road). They advertise a dairy, and a bakery run by an A.E. Cresswell. So far my work in available directories has yielded nothing substantial except that there were bakers there by different names in the 1920s and 1930s:
1925: Stanley Herbert Lockwood, baker, 60 Richmond Road
1930-34: Hedley Bakeries, 60 Richmond Road
By 1940 the address is home to Thomas George Weedon, Shopkeeper.
Something odd is that prior to 1925 the 60 Richmond Road isn’t listed where expected in the directories, so my suspicion is that there was a renumbering at some point, or that the address itself previously corresponded to one of the other streets, although I’ve been unable to find evidence of that.
If this location is beyond your usual remit then please do direct me to the relevant local historical society. The location itself can be seen via google streetview here: https://goo.gl/maps/drNPiEt1YHEiDxBz5
Many thanks, Sam
I am looking for anybody who can enlighten me on the following ; I have a relative that had a photograph of one of our relatives Mr John Herbert in a team photograph holding up a large cup engraved Fulham and Hammersmith. They appear to be holdings sticks like a hockey / hurling type of stick. We believe the photograph was taken around the turn of the century . The Herbert family lived in a house that overlooked the London Athletic Club . The land is now Chelsea FC ground since 1905 .. Any help would be gratefully received.
David English
Hi, I’m trying to find out which “Martin Bell”, Martin Bell’s wood in wormwood scrubs is named after.
There is nothing for this online! Does anyone have an idea?
Hi
Looking to trace or find out the owners of the greyhound pub crystal palace road in approximately 1958 to 1962
Any help much appreciated
Do you mean Fulham Palace Road?
Sorry yes
This may be of help;
Hello my grandparents owned a little shop in Battersea when I was a baby.
Sidney and Julie Beard, they had 10 children it would have been around 1972 – 1975.
Does anyone remember the family ?
David Taylor, were you asking regarding information for an alleged bigamist in this area? I’m keen to also find this out. I’m researching my maternal grandfather-Ernest Taylor married to Rose who was (apparently) jailed for bigamy as he married someone else!! Possible 1940s/50s. I believe they were from this area as my mum grew up in Fulham. Her name is Patricia Ann born 1944.
Hi Rachael
My mother worked in this pub from 1958 to 1962,I am trying to find my father ,
Hi Rose Taylor Who was married to Earnest was my mother who had a lot of children most put up for adoption And yes Earnest Taylor was a Bigamist and sent to prison ..
hi
looking for any person who knew Bridget (Breda)Taylor Irish lady working at the greyhound pub Fulham palace road in the early 1960s
Thank you
David
I take it Breda Taylor was the Woman that Earnest Taylor left he’s Wife Rose for
My grandfather, Leonard Woods (born 1896) was born and brought up in this area with his father running Albert Woods, Van and Cart Builders on 149 Latimer Road West. He married Ethel Cecilia Thompson (born 1897) who lived in Cambridge Road. She had 2 brothers, Harold Thompson (born 1899) and Albert Thompson (born 1901) and we know nothing about them. Any ideas or information?
My grandfather, Leonard Woods (born 1896,) was brought up in this area with his father running Albert Woods, Van and Cart Builders, in 149 Latimer Road West. He married Ethel Cecilia Thompson (born 1897,) who lived in Cambridge Road. She had 2 brothers, Harold (born 1899) and Albert (born 1901) Thompson who we know nothing about. Can anyone offer any information?
Hi, I wonder if anyone can help? In 1949 (age 3) I caught Polio in both my lower limbs. In 1953 we moved to the newly constructed Sulivan Court in Peterborough Road, Fulham which also had a brand new Sulivan Primary School. In those days schools were run by the London County Council which had a ruling that any child with a disability of any kind had to attend a “special” school. So instead of being allowed to go to Sulivan School, which was on our doorstep, I had to go in a special bus to Rosemount School, next to Holman Hunt School in New Kings Road, Fulham. My disability was that I had to wear knee length braces to help with my walking and running about.
99% of the pupils at Rosemount were very seriously physically disabled or had severe learning difficulties.
After a long fight by my Mother and my Fulham Hospital orthopaedic surgeon I was eventually able to attend Sulivan Primary School.
I have been trying to find out more about Rosemount School and why it eventually closed (although the building is still there, as is Holman Hunt). However, there is nothing on the internet and have so far drawn a blank
Hello, I was wondering if anyone has heard of St Margaret’s College for Ladies, Northend, Fulham. I can’t find anything online about it. In the 1860’s my friends 3 x Great Grandfather was the Italian Master. He had been Princess Victoria’s Italian Master immediately before she became Queen in 1837. I’d like to know if any staff records exist as we are trying to find out his exact date and place of birth. Thanks.
Do you mean Lady Margaret’s School for women in Fulham.
Hi! I was looking for historical info on Ideal Studios, used to be 1 Beadon Road, Hammersmith. My mother had a portrait/picture taken there around 1952/53 and I wondered how long the studio had been there before it’s demise. What is in its place now? It is my mother’s old stomping ground as a teenager and she often mentioned The Hammersmirh Palais.
My ancestors were Farriers in the Fulham and Hammersmith district
the family name of Bardrick (Joseph) in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s. Other relatives moved slightly east to Chelsea and set up a successful plumbing business. I have found information on the plumbers but not had any success with the Farriers.Do you have any information?
I’m trying to find out what happened to Florence Ada Johnson (nee Parker) b 23/5/1903 in Hammersmith who married Wiiliam Johnson (b Abt 1901) on 16/6/21 in Hammersmith. They had 2 daughters who were taken into care in 1929 but Florence and Wiiliam seem to disappear after that. Can anyone help or point me in the right direction? TIA
Can you please contact my father John Parker was cousin to Florence Ada Parker do you know the daughters names please contact me through my e mail Please look on Facebook site called Hammersmith market remembered it has a photo of James Parker memorial with me and my brother Michael recently cleaned up if you e mail me I will give my phone number
Have messaged you on facebook. Thank you
Hello, I am researching the opening of Latymer Upper School on King Street, on behalf of the school for a 400 year anniversary publication re its Foundation. Would you have access to newspaper archives from January 1895 at the time of its opening by chance? Many thanks!
Hello, I am researching the opening of Latymer Upper School on King Street in 1895, on behalf of the school for a 400 year anniversary of the Latymer Foundation publication. Would you have any of the newspaper archives of the time, the school opened in January 1895? Many thanks, Christine
Access is the libraries to hardcopy newspapers is not available. I suggest you take out a one month subscription to the British newspaper archives and then you can search Lattimer foundation in the newspapers that have been put online and you may well find other references outside of the Fulham Chronicle and West London observer you may even find references to the foundation that goes ba further than 1895 and founding of the school
Hi
You might need to get in touch with kensington & chelsea archive
Good afternoon, my Gt Gt Parents Thomas Drury & Mary lived at
12 Onslow Dwellings then 67 Onslow Dwellings.
5 of their 8 children died between 1871 – 1887 between the ages of
10 months to 12 year old.
4 of these children are buried at Brompton Cemetery in different graves but all buried with up to five other people.
The 5th Child Albert George Drury died 1887 aged 1 but he does not
seemed to be buried there.
Has anyone got any idea on where he could have been buried.
Many thanks
John Drury
Hi John, Brompton Cemetery has a web site. I am sure they must have registered every burial. I don’t think it was closed 1887 but you can check that. Have you thought about Kensal Green?
Hi Lesley
Thank you for your reply that was most helpful.
I have been on the Brompton Cemetery site where I found the others had been buried with multiple other people but i will re look incase I have missed him.
I never knew about Kensal Green so I will give that one a look.
Thanks again
regards
John
Hi,
I am just trying to find out some history about wheatsheaf alley, now wheatsheaf terrace in Fulham. Any info would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Hi if you scroll down to October 2020 Mark Foulsham gives a description. The current Sainsbury’s local opposite the firestation used to be the Victorian Wheatsheaf and replaced a much earlier pub. The Alley ran from there through the Lancaster Court Council Estate to the vestige remaining now changing to Gunter Grove now a back alley between Bishops Road and Dawes Road. i cannot lay my hands on it but there is an old map showing the Alley marked.
Just wondering if there are any photos or drawings of St. Joseph’s School for Roman Catholic Girls which was located in Brook Green, W. Fulham; or a map showing its location. My grandmother and her sister were there after their father passed and appear on the 1911 Census for the school
This map from the wonderful online resource at the National Library of Scotland shows an RC School in Brook Green. For photos or drawings you would have to wait un til the LBHF Archives in Hammersmith Library open again. You can access the catalogue on line if you go to LBHF Library service and look for the archives.
Good luck with your quest.
Hi. I was wondering if anyone had heard of The Bishop of London’s Grammar School for Girls. My mum said she went there in the 1950s. She passed away already so I can’t ask her more about it. I can’t find any records of the school. I would appreciate any help trying to locate it or at least if it existed.
Are we talking about Fulham or Hammersmith?
Fulham Palace Road 👍
Hi
I looking for your help on two matters
(1) who where the owners/manager of the “greyhound pub”
175 crystal palace road Fulham during 1958 to 1962.
(2) Any information or knowledge of a fish shop near the greyhound pub during the same period of time,
The manager of this shop may have a first name “ALBERT”
Any assistance would be greatfully appreciated
Regards
David
There was a fish shop in the Greyhound Road, a short way down from the Greyhound Pub on the opposite side of the road (1960s). Our family knew the owner quite well but I can’t remember the name unfortunately. However, the owner sold his car to my brother!
Hi sue
This is important information concerning the fish shop ,I am trying to trace the manager of the shop,I understand his name was “Albert “ ,and further information you can obtain would be greafully appreciated in solving a family heritage
Kind regards
Dave
Sorry, I know no more than what I have already told you. He wasn’t the Manager, he was the owner. My mother bought our fish from him for a number of years before the area was redeveloped by the council and we moved to Devon. Good luck.
The Greyhound Pub, incidentally, was on the corner of Fulham Palace Road and Greyhound Road.
Hi sue
Thank you ,very much appreciated
Dave
Hi, my gandfather (Harry Ennever) owned and ran the fish shop – 2 Greyhound Road from 1940’s taking it on from my great grandfather.
Many thanks Steve. I knew he had an unusual surname but couldn’t for the life of me remember what it was. I remember the car..light green Austin A30 I think (forgive me if I haven’t got the make quite right!) My brother looked after it well all the time he had it.
Hi
I am also looking for information in relation to this fish shop. Can you help me if there is a man going by first name Albert who was employed in this shop in 1961
Kind regards,
David.
I think the fish shop was known as Ennever & Sons and was owned by Henry Thomas Ennever after his father George died in 1942. The address was 28 Greyhound Road. Henry was married to Emily and they had a son born 1942 and they all lived above it
HI Does anyone have any photos of Fane Street please, around 1900-1920? I did visit a while back but see it maybe was bombed or bulldozed and only the first two houses are still there. Many thanks. My family name was Tyson and they lived in Fane Street.
Hi there
My family have lived at 3 Fulham Park Gardens SW6 4JX for over 60 years. The a name over the front door is Staughton House & was built in 1879. I recall my nan telling tales about the house i.e. that it was built for a Lady Lily of Munster (there is a figure head over the front door) & the gardens used to go all the way through to Munster Road. I’ve Googled these bits of information & got no where & wondered if you had any information in your archives etc. that would validate or dispel this information.
To whom it may concern,
I am a professional London tour guide and West London local and I’m currently putting together a virtual tour of Hammersmith. As part of the tour, I talk about the Lyric Hammersmith and its wonderful story. I was wondering if you had any photos you might be able to share of the old theatre, some of their early programmes, and its demolition in the 1960s, which I would be able to share in my presentation.
Thank you.
All the best,
Amber
You may get a response from some of our regular contributors but a good deal of material is held by the LBHF local archives in Hammersmith Library. Although it is currently closed you could search the online catalogue or contact the archivist (see library website for both). There will be photos and of course there will be a charge for their copying and use. No doubt you have already contacted teh Lyric.
Good luck with your project.
Thanks! I’ll have a look at the local archives. Yeah, I’ve been in touch with Lyric and I’m waiting to hear back.
Amber,
There are some great photos of the old Lyric on the Arthur Lloyd website…see http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Hammersmith/Demolition/LyricDemolition.htm?fbclid=IwAR3vzMwRWsZiItu4wbH7pMKQdhpo4unoKaFnvziEXIOvfR1xQE3QIAD3DvE
Many of these images are actually owned by Vernon Burgess, who I know features in some of the messages on this site.
You might also want to take a look at our Facebook group “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”, since there are some great images here too.
Regards,
Cary
Hi Cary,
Thanks for your response! Yes, I found the Arthur Lloyd website and there are some great images there. It was actually that website which led me to yours. I like Vernon Burgess’ pictures of the Lyric being demolished and would love to use a couple if he ends up seeing this!
Thanks,
Amber
This site Ia a must to check for anything theatre related .
http://arthurlloyd.co.uk/
you will also find images on the site of the Lyric Theatre being demolished and interior views before it did become a building site , although arthur Lloyd has the images of the demolition they are actually in my possession
Hello, thanks so much for your reply! The Arthur Lloyd website is a great resource. That’s amazing that you have those photos of the demolition! Is there any chance I could please use a couple of them for my virtual tour?
All the best,
Amber
Hello I have read you web page which is of interest. My past relative lived in Fulham for many years from the 1900’s – 1990’s, firstly at an address in Turnholme Mews through finally to Fabian Rd. Other family members lived in St Thomas’s Rd, and Mirabel Rd.
Are you able to assist in confirming that a road existed called St Thomas’s Rd as I can only find reference to a St Thomas’s Way ?
Also I have an address at St Clemence Mansions Fulham. How would you suggest that I trace these address which no doubt have been removed from later maps ?
Thank you for your help. Melvyn Sexton
St Clemence Mansions is at teh junction of Lillie Road and Fulham palace Road see this on Google.
St Thomas Road is now St Thomas Way runs alongside St Thomas Church and Schools.
Thank you for your reply and clarification regarding the change of name for St Thomas’s Road, does anyone have a clue as to why the name was changed. Am I correct in assuming that the terrace houses that made up the road were demolished to make way for ‘1960’s improvements’. My recollection is of ‘two up/two down’ housing with single storey kitchen and a WC outhouse in a yard at the back where chickens were regularly kept ? Pretty little houses that would demand high prices in the 2021’s. Thank you to the organisers of this Website chat forum. Regards Melvyn Sexton
Hi, Does anyone know where Clyde Buildings were in Fulham as i have a relative who lived at number 24 in November 1919 ? Thank you, Melvyn
Hi M they are at the junction of rylston Road and estcourt Road sw6
Hi Len, thank you for your help..
Regards
Melvyn
Hi M there was a pub opposite called the Lord Clyde 👍
Re Clyde Buildings I think the reply from Len Fuller relates to Clyde Flats which is a fairly new development just where he said it is but its not the Clyde Buildings from 1919.
I remember delivering leaflets there in the 1960’s and as I recall it was a three of four storey block with wrought iron staircases. It was not on a corner plot but I think closer than the Flats are to the Fulham Road. I was a teenager at the time and was always given the delivery rounds with lots of staircases while my older friends did the houses!
In any event I have been on Google maps and searched the area. Sadly the Buildings have clearly been redeveloped.
Hi Basil
If you didn’t get my previous reply – thanks for your help.
Hi, my grandmother Annie Pitt was born in the Good Samaritan pub in Whitechapel on 15.05.1892. At 12 she became an apprentice dressmaker and in 1911 census she is an assistant to Annie Reeves from Scot land who is a dressmaker at 235 Fulham Rd Chelsea. I have two delightful photos of her with friends in beautiful dresses. I’d love to know if she worked for a large concern where such fine dresses were made. She could not have afforded to buy so she was either modelling or in fancy dress maybe. She may have worked sewing parachutes during the war before moving out of London to settle and marry in Hampshire.
Regards, Marilyn Berridge
Thank you for your enquiry.
This Address is actually in Chelsea I have found that in the 1940s the businesses around 235 was as listed below and you will notice that there was actually a funeral directors at this number you need to check other sources possibly the Kensington and Chelsea libraries.
Interestingly though 239 is listed as a dress agency
197 Onslow Garage Ltd
Royal Cancer Hospital (Free) (The) (incorporated under Royal charter)
… here is Dovehouse street …
Hospital for consumption & Diseases of the Chest (extension building)
223 to 233 Mawers Ltd, house furnishers
235 Ashton Edwin Bell & Co, funeral directors
Ashtons Garage, motor car agents (Dudmaston mews)
… here are Dudmaston mews …
Royal Cancer Hospital (Free) Chester-Beatty Research Institute
Jews Burial Ground
239 Malcolm Miss Blanche, dress agency
Queens Elm Parade :
3 Searle Mrs Beatrice L, tobacconist
4 Lewis M M, antique dealer
5 Prior Frederica, dyer & cleaner
6 Pole Miss Margaret, second hand bookseller
7 Gallops Ltd, boot repairers
I was born in Hammersmith hospital in 1938 and lived, in Coalwith rd. afore movin’ to Parfrey St. where I was brought-up until about 1959 when I moved away. I’m 82yrs old and in ‘good shape’ but i wondered if anyone is still alive that also lived in Parfrey st. Also
went to Fulham Palace rd. school (my first school!) and also Lower Latymer in Hammersmith. Also became a musician startin’ from the ‘Skiffle’ days and even playin’ under Hammersmith Bridge with others
back in the 5os! Would be good to make contact with others that are
still ‘alive’ and remember those days. I now live in Farnham but miss
those ‘good ol’ days’ in Hammersmith and Fulham. Be good to know
a little about the Lower Latymer school, can’t seem to find anythin’!
Thanks for anyone’s time!
Mike Chilvers
Thanks for your email I used to work with a guy called Mike Dewe, who used to play skiffle with his brother and others under the subway at Putney Bridge.Sadly Mike is no longer with us but he did write a book called the Skiffle craze which is still available on Amazon for about £9 if you have not read it .the school In the 60s that I went to had a number of well-known musicians,Including Brian Auger, Brian Johnson and Steve Hackett, Keith Strachen, (co-wrote mistletoe and wine for Cliff Richards ), Michael Mullins, wonder if he is related to Charlie Mullins of Pimlico plumbers?, Bill Kimber and the couriers. Tony Allen of radio Caroline can be added to the number
We also had our fair share of well-known actors Thanks to a famous well-known amateur dramatic productions By the school pupils and of course sportsman as well made their name.Well there’s a few names for you to think over and hopefully it will bring back some memories.
Hi you can apply to I grew up in Fulham face book site to join it there is plenty of Fulhamites there 👍
I am trying to find out more about Staughton House in Fulham Park Gardens SW6 4JX. My family have lived there for over 65 years. I recall some tales my Nan told me about the house but have no idea as to the validity of them.
I am really interested to know more about it.
Hi I just wanted to let you know that I have just published my book London’s Loveable Villain, about my great uncle Hammersmith born Wrestler Boxer and TRIPLE LIFESAVER Chick Cocky Knight’s colourful life! It’s out now and selling really well. Chick was a celebrity and local guy well known in Hammersmith. He saved 2 people from drowning in the Thames at Hammersmith in 1930, going in not once but twice. All of this is in the book available for sale on eBay.
My 3 times great grandmother died 1857 Parsons Green, where is likely to be buried?
I’m not sure you are getting my reply??
It happened at Putney Bridge station
Thank you
Sorry there is always a bit of a delay awaiting moderation. Even more so now i am away from the borough. Will try to do better. Good luck with your quest.
Hi
I’m looking for a news article about my partners mother. She was tragically killed on a train track when he was very little. Her name was valerie stevens she had 2 children at the time of her death which I believe was possibly 1967 ?? But could be year before or year after.
Hi
Where did this happen please
It happened at Putney Bridge we were told there was an article in the Fulham chronicle
Thank you
Unfortunately the Fulham Chronicle at West London observer for the period that you are searching the article for is not available online so the actual copies of the newspaper will have to be checked at Hammersmith archives either in person if you are located nearby when they reopen or you can send an email to the archivist and see if she is able to check for you I can’t recall at the moment with the physical copies of the Fulham Chronicle re located in the Borough
I wonder whether you can assist with my research. My grandfather lived with his parents at The Golden Lion, 57 High Street from 1910 to about 1928. In the 1911 Census he was working in the “Motor Trade”. I understand that he was working in the construction of wooden ambulances, and I wondered whether you were aware of any locations local to Fulham that this may have occurred.
Many thanks. Kind regards, Steve
Sounds as if your grandfather was a coachbuilder. There were many coachbuilders in the area at this time. Many of them switched to building ambulances during WW1. All the ambulance bodies were made of wood,then most were skinned with metal. Some prominent local companies were Clement Talbot Ltd of Barlby Road, N Kensington, W & G du Cros of Warple Way Acton, Darracq Motor Engineering Co of Acton, D Napier & Son of The Vale Acton, Hooper & Co, Western Avenue, Acton. All an easy cycle ride from the Golden Lion.
I am still trying to research my family tree – on my Maternal Grandmothers side. Her maiden name was Cecilia Agnes Driscoll, married Stanley Gurney Pickard in 1925 and then lived in Danehurst Street Fulham. I have her D.O.B as 18/12/1902 ,but Ancestry and Find my Past seem not to have a record or birth certificate for this or any date around that time nor can I trace her mothers maiden name . She had a sister – Mary who married John William Noble in 1910, and 2 brothers (Henry and George) who may have been shipped as children to Australia. There are records suggesting the other childrens mothers maiden name was Scanes , but again there is nothing to tie Cecilia back to that name .Does anyone know the “Pickards” and can anyone shed any light on my grandmother and her Mother?
Hello I wonder if you could please help with my search for the Slade family of 81 MacFarlane Road Shepherds Bush. They resided there in the late 1800’s to mid 1900’s. Charles Henry Slade senior and Charles Henry Slade Junior were both sign writers and I am.told also owned a hardware type shop. I cannot find any information as to where they worked etc. I am told some of the projects included signs for Wrigleys Gum at Piccadilly Circus and Black and White Whiskey. Charles senior was killed in 1931 when a hoarding fell from a grocers shop outside of the station on Uxbridge Road. Any information or pointers would be really appreciated. Thank you in advance
Claire
Published: Friday 18 December 1931
Newspaper: West London Observer
County: London, England
Type: Article | Words: 1019 | Page: 9
This article has details of the accident and the inquest report when the heavy shutters of a greengrocers slope fell down during a gale
Thank you very kind
If you are still wanting information drop me an email on information you would like to discover
Brian
Hi Brian
Thank you for the reply. The area I am stuck on is where my Great grandfather and his father actually worked. Also I believe they had a hardware shop which I am trying to locate. I did wonder if perhaps this could of been in one of the railway arches in MacFarlane Road as this is so close to the house they lived in. Any help or pointers would be appreciated. Regards Claire
The info you require may well be in directories in the research library in Hammersmith which is closed re virus at present .
You can email them and they may be able to help , you may be very lucky to find a photo , you never know.
Email archives@lbhf.gov.uk
Brian
brianjeffreys1@gmail.com
Please can you help I’m trying to find Susan Patterson married to Michael Patterson they live in this area.age 70-72.jan
Try 192.com it’s a paid for service, but there is a Michael and a susan Patterson living in SW6
To the Archivist, F&HHS.
Searching for school records or information for children of Charles & Alice WILKES who lived at 6 Bovingdon Rd Fulham (1895) and 2 Ryecroft St Fulham (1898 to 1918);
– Edith Wilkes b: 1883 and is noted as ‘deaf’ – may have attended the Ackmar Road School for deaf children.
– Charles Wilkes b: 1888
– John Liberty Wilkes b: 1894.
Edith & John L Wilkes are listed on 1901 & 1911 Census.
My Great Grand Father, Charles Wilkes was a Master Carpenter / Builder in partnership with his brother, Henry James Wilkes, with business known as Wilkes Bros Builders around Kensington.
My understanding is that Wilkes Bros Builders were instrumental in the construction of detached houses & the family home at 2 Ryecroft St, Fulham. Any assistance or information would be gratefully received.
Regards.
John Wilkes.
Sydney, Australia.
Michael Street is on the Peterborough estate and can be viewed very much as it was built on Google maps Street view the black and white tiles at the front are replacement ones and the originals
Would have been a lot smaller and the white painted tiles on the front would have originally been cream terracotta . the door would’ve been black and the woodwork cream there are very few detached houses on this estate. Previous comments on this website especially around the 18th of July 2020Have talked about Ackmar schools and a book on the history of the deaf schools is mentioned.is mentioned .www findmypast website also is said to have records of schools and this may be worth checking .otherwise you should check out National archives and the London Metropolitan archives for school records
All of the above known . . . .looking for specific information about schools and the students attending i.e. Edith Wilkes b: 1883, Malcolm Wilkes (not Charles) b: 1888 and John Liberty Wilkes b: 1894. Can you please put me in contact with whoever may hold the information as this may not be with your Society.
Nothing located on Findmypass or at the National Archives. Does the London Metropolitan archives house the records of the London Board of Schools? Kind regards.
John Wilkes.
My mum had an uncle, Charlie Eariss, aged 8 die in the Hammersmith Creek on June 13th 1946. I have been lucky enough to find an article online but my mum always said she believed there was a memorial somewhere. As the creek isn’t there, can I assume any memorial would now not be there.
The creek is still there but has been culverted nd runs approximately along Nigel Playfair Avenue this site is now being developed by the council so who knows they might reveal it again. if there was a plaque near the site it could have gone into the archives department otherwise there may be something in one of the three local churches that are near the site St Paul’s Hammersmith Rivercourt Methodist Church or the decommission St John’s Glenthorne Road. As you say there only appears to be one article in the local newspaper but the person who tried to save Charles was awarded the road humane society middle and it may be that the society has further details that were current at the time
Does it say the name of the recipient of the award from the Royal Humane Society in the article, it may be possible to garner some information from their award certificate.
My father Walter See had the boatyard just downstream from the creek and he had several certificates from the society for saving lives, most of them were destroyed when the barge that was used as a workshop sank.
Hi Geoffrey,
Thanks for getting in touch, yes the West London observer does give your father as the one who tried to rescue Charlie
The waterman, Walter See, aged 32. of Eyot Gardens, Hammersmith,
Wow, I didn’t know that, as I said most of the certificates were destroyed when the barge sank. There was one badly water damaged which I have and apparently copies can be obtained.
Thank you so much for the information, can you tell me how I can access the article.
Yes that is right as I have a picture of the newspaper article where he is mentioned for trying to save him after he got stuck trying to get his football back.
Can I ask if you dad is still alive? Amazing to find that connection. What a hero your dad was. Although Charlie didn’t survive, it still takes great bravery to put your life on the line like that.
Hi Gary, you did give me a bit of a laugh there, unintentionally I know.
You must have missed it in the reply from the archivist when it was said my dad was 32 in 1946 that would make him about. 112 now, not unheard of I know, but unlikely.
No, he has been gone a long time now, but thank you for the nice things you say about him, he saw a lot of things down the boatyard, not all pleasant.
Best regards.
Hi Geoffrey
Yes I must confess my face has a smile as well when I did the maths. I would suggest you take a one month subscription to the British newspaper archive. Do and advanced search under Walter See and select West London Observer.Being a slightly unusual name there are very few entries that could cause confusion and you will find at least nine articles mentioning your dad, including one when I think it said you’ve lost the boat yard in 1957 good luck. PS if you want to email me outside of this website click on the church image and other details will be revealed
I am trying to find out about the area my mum would have lived around late 30’s. She was born 1930 abd one address I have for her is 21 Burnaby (street?) Sands End.
Has anyone any information about the area. All I know is she did a paper round during the war abd her mum I believe worked in a grocers shop.
Many thanks.
Steffanie
There is/was a Burnaby Street near Lots Road Chelsea which is just quite close to Sand end. During the 1950s when I went to school close by and my father worked in Lots Road, the area was rather “run down” and not a place you went after dark.
Sands End is between Wandsworth Bridge and Chelsea Harbour, where the actor Michael Caine lives. Burnaby Street is a quiet street closer to the World’s End, I’ve lived in the area for 40 years and it hasn’t changed much apart from becoming more upmarket as the years go by, it’s a street of pretty terraced houses that cost a fortune these days. The Chelsea Ram is also in Burnaby Street it’s been a popular pub with locals for years.
Hi
I grew up near Burnaby Street. It ran from Lots Road towards Tadema Road. Along part of it was a wall of Ashburnham School. There were some shops in Burnaby Street including a greengrocer, a grocer, an off licence that was once a bakery I think. A pub on one corner, and a dairy. Sands End is an area on the other side of Chelsea Creek that is actually Fulham not Chelsea. I might be able to help your research if you reply.
That’s very kind to offer help with my query about Burnaby St. what years were you there? My grandmother was a grocery/provisions manageress at the time. I wonder if she worked there x
Steffanie, I lived in Lots Road from 1946-53 and continued to attend Ashburnham School in Tetcott Road. I remember several shops in Burnaby Street. there was a grocer/sweet shop and a greengrocer run by the Ainsby family I think. I will think about the grocer’s shop (Gale’s ?) not sure. I will keep thinking and researching . . . what were your mother’s and grandmother’s names at the time?
Thank you for taking the time to reply to me
This is a positive reply. Thanks.
My mum was Freda Elsie Jones b 1930
Her mum Ethel Mary Jones b1909 (worked in shop)
My godmother Mary Meader b1925 (also in shop)
Ethels mum Mary Louisa Jones b1882 – she married Charles Seymour Jones who died from an accident at Lots Road power station where he worked for many years. Their son William lived in Humboldt Road at the time of the accident. I have a picture of the newspaper covering the accident.
Not sure how to attach pictures but have some of my mum/ gran/g gran as well. Mum went on to study at the Norland College in 1947.
I seem to remember she said something about having gone to a grammar school? But not certain.
Steffanie, The 1939 Register says that Ethel Mary Jones (1909) and Mary Louisa Jones (1882) lived at 21 Burnaby Street then. Was Freda Elsie evacuated? The Register also has William E Jones at 27 Humbolt Road, Fulham born 1904. Is this where you have your information from? (sorry if its nothing new). Was Ethel their daughter-in-law, as they have her as Jones (Lawton.)
I will still try to help with the area and the shops, and will reply again soon.
Hi. Thanks for your reply. Ethel Jones was not married as far as I know (unless to another Jones?!) at time of Freda’s birth 1930. Ethel then married Frank Lawton but not till 1958. I think mum was evacuated at some point but not sure when. Mum was also in a Barnardos home for possibly 4 years in her early days but never discussed that and I haven’t yet contacted them to see if I can find out more.
William’s address I got from the newspaper article about Mary’s husbands death in 1936.
I’ve had a look at the census now. But it shows 2closed records. Not sure what that means though.
Most of my info comes originally from mum but she never gave specifics of years.
I really appreciate your help.
Thanks.
Steffanie
Hi Steffanie
I asked my older sister if she can remember any shops in Burnaby Street – she said only a laundry but I asked her to think again. I can contact Chelsea sites and ask. Meanwhile I tried to find directories on line but no good. If I lived in the borough and not 80 miles away I would try and see the directories at the RBKC library. Not during lockdown of course. I have a photo I took years ago of Burnaby Street but can’t send it here. Would you like to message on our email sites? Lesley
Thank you Lesley. That is very kind. The email address to use is LadyHawke@hotmail.co.uk. All information gratefully received.
Steffanie
My grandparents lived in the area in the 1930s and were active members of the Church of Christ, which I think used to meet at ‘Assembly Hall, on the corner of Wandsworth Bridge Road and Hugon Road’. Family tradition has it that they took in the minister and his family when they were bombed out in WW2. Does anyone have any information about this church (or indeed where I can obtain further information)? A quick look at GoogleMaps shows that the building is not there now and I’d be interested to know what happened to both the building and the Church of Christ.
Duncan
I recall The Church of Christ in Wandsworth Bridge Road with great affection. I never attended the church personally but was a regular at their youth club. St Matthews on the opposite side of the road was our church. The youth club was legendary to us teenagers with guys and gals coming from afar as West Kensington for the dancing and live group music. This would have been around the early 1960’s. It was packed and very lively with regular coach trips to Kingston Odeon to see the top groups of the day. I’m fairly certain the church building was still there when I left the area around the early 70’s.
Thanks for your reply John – what great memories. I guess my grandparents would have been slightly surprised – in their day, they had to pursue their courtship outside of the Church, so joined the local tennis club. My grandfather built the wooden cross that hung above the pulpit and the hymn board at the Church. Best wishes Duncan
Any other memories that would be helpful from Sands End just ask Duncan.
Hi I’m researching the family Bootman who stayed at 131 Greyhound Road in the 1800s to 1930… Arthur and Mary Ann Rebecca Bootman gave birth to Annie Elizabeth Bootman who was my great gran. She gave birth to her son Frederick John Bootman. Father is unknown.. I have found Annie up till 1930 then disappears. She stayed at 131 Greyhound Road till then with an absence of a year in 1911obviously after the birth of Frederick.. found a death listing for Annie Smith (her married name) in 1932 but unsure if this is her and am having difficulty obtaining more info. She got married to an Arthur Sidney Smith in 1914 but he left the above property in 1927. Desperate to see what happened to Annie and where my granda Fred got brought up before moving to Scotland as an adult.. i found him in 1911 census at above address he was only 4 months old. Born 1910 July. Mum wasn’t listed there that year… any pictures of the house as thst number 131 not on google.. sorry this is rather long winded. I have reached stalemate through ancestry sites. I wait in anticipation.
I’m still looking for information on the Bootman family who stayed at 131 Greyhound Road, Fulham between 1890 till 1930s.
Hi, Can any body help me. I’m trying to find what the shops were in the area of Greyhound rd, particularly between the Queens Arms going up to and including the Prince of Wales at the corner of Margavine Road. Also along that first part of Margavine Rd. In the late 1950’s and early 1960’s. I used to live in Musard Road between 1950 – 1967. Thanks Ron Jones
The whole section from the Prince of Wales to the Queens arms was shops according to Kellys 1939 with one of everything from149-169, i..e. Tobacconist, greengrocer, chemist, butchers, grocer, snackbar, corndealer, hairdresser, cycle engineer ,fish shop and baker. Whilst 1-11 Margravine road West side, comprised of a florist, fried fish shop, Boot repairer, wardrobe dealer, and David Jones Dairy….a great selection.
I presume Kelly’s 1939 is some kind of trade directory. Can the public look at it to see specifically which shops were where? Thanks for your help so.
Can you tell me how to access a directory for that location for 1960?
Do you know of any shops under the name of Cleetons? Possibly a greengrocers or similar?
the last local directory was published in 1939 for fulham .Kellys Post Office London continues for many years afterwards, Hammersmith library should have them when open. Ancestry also has them I believe. what shop are you looking for?
Thanks for that. I’d like to know what shops were where in 1960 so i will continue to search, but specifically where the fish & Chip shop was in (fried fish shop) in the start of margarine Rd, off greyhound rd. Thanks for your help.
My grandparents lived at No 48 Langford Road Fulham in 1911 and I wondered if there were any pictures of the road at that time. I believe looking at Google maps that the houses on their side of the road have been knocked down now.
The houses in Langford road were demolished in the 1950s. I have a photo of those on the south side of the road but I expect 48 was on the other side. The houses were very old and I remember there were outside steps up to the first floor
My great grandparents and my grandad a baby at the time lived at no 40 in the 1901 census ,looking at the Booth poverty map he said it was a dreadful place full of hard core criminals,drunks and assult on police officers..,police would not go alone ..lowest of low ..so Booth said
I lived in that part of Fulham between 1945 and 1973 and recall Langford Road. It was in an area known as Sands End where at the time you mentioned there was significant poverty. The houses were of very poor quality in Langford Road. That road was close to the gasworks in Imperial Road and the riverside industry all along Townmead Road and Carnwath Road. Much pollution and grime. Sadly the population would be in a very low income category with no doubt many having to resort to crime to exist.
Hi
I’m trying to locate/find a street in LB Hammersmith /Fulham at 47 Perimeau Street in 1906. I have a 1938/39 London A-Z which doesn’t show it.The word Perimeau is hand written and may not be exact. Internet searches come up with zero.
regards
I would suggest that the street is actually Perrymead Street. It runs from New Kings road to Studdridge Street and is the first turning on the left after Wandsworth Bridge road. Does this fir. Its on the Peterborough Estate
Hi
Thank you. It could indeed be Perrymead. The handwriting is on a death certificate of my wife’s great grandfather who was a Blomfield and related via cousins to Bishop Blomfield. The Blomfield’s all seemed to live around Fulham/Lambeth area up to the 1920’s.
I gather Perrymead is the only street with this name in the UK which makes it more intriguing
Regards
My wife is a Blomfield though her branch of the family adopted the oo spelling in the 19th century. I have quite an extensive Blomfield family tree. If you would like more info please email me at basilelaine@aol.com
I would like to find out more about the Twynholm Orphanage, 710-712 Fulham Road. I am researching a family tree which includes someone who may have been resident there between 1889 and 1901.
I haven’t been able to find much out, so would really appreciate any information anyone may have about the orphanage.
Hi there
I’m researching family and wondered if anyone knows of the Pichon or Bramley family in Hammersmith please?
I am researching my father’s family. His father was born in May 1889 in Chelsea, and was adopted by a family sometime between then and 1901. The birth certificate lists his name as Charles Clarence Hallworth, son of Charles Hallworth (“licensed victualler”) and Ethel, nee Smith, of 69 Third Avenue. I have found no other records for the parents. He may have lived for a while in Twynholm Orphanage 710-712 Fulham Road. I have not been able to find much about the orphanage, and wondered if there were any records which may help – a long shot, I suspect?
My name is Sarah and was looking at info on my Nan Charlotte Lane her parents (Goats name) had a grocery store on pudding lane back in 1920s. Is there any photos of it? Or any info would be lovely please.
My grandfather lived in Goodson Road, Fulham. I cant find this road so I guess it was either demolished or renamed. Can anyone tell me where abouts it was. Thank you. Anita Bailey amolistar@yahoo.co.uk
Goodson Road was located in the area where Normand Park is to day running from 33 jervis road, including an entrance to North end road school It only had some 14 or so houses. It could be Mulgrave road betwen the present park and school
Bill Colley is my dad. He’s a boat builder. His gran was Amy Colley and she used to run the sweetshop from a stall opposite her home at 11 Lower Mall. My dad was a boatman at London Rowing Club in Putney in the late 70’s and then had a workshop by Richmond Bridge. He still dabbles.
This query involves William Tierney Clark who built the original Hammersmith Bridge, which was opened in 1827. He was the Chief Engineer of the West Middlesex Water Works. A disgruntled employee wrote a letter to the Directors (full text can be supplied, the original is in the London Metropolitan Archive) in which he mentions ‘his horse and black servant’. I would be interested to find out who this black servant was as they would have been very rare in Hammersmith in the early 19th century.
I have written published papers about Clark (please see my website).
This would also add to the interest in the history of black people in this country at that time. Unfortunately all of Clark’s papers after his death in 1852 were destroyed.
Many thanks for any help.
Sandor Vaci
One would think that the census would be the best place to check the household of tierney Clark, however heseems to be a difficult person to track down especially as his name comes out thus in the census record 1851 living at Grove road Hammersmith
W. Taing Clark b 1788 Bristol,
Although it does not mention Clark’s black servant remember that a a new edition of Hammersmith bridge with colour photographs and some new content has just be published ..Available for £12.00 inc postage from publications link.
The 1851 census entry IS for William Tierney Clark, but though it lists servants none of them can be the black servant mentioned, so if he was still alive and working for Clark he cannot have lived in. The Bristol birth is worth following up – Bristol was a slaving port and a major Atlantic trader. So, of course, was London, but not quite on that scale. There was certainly one barrister in Jamaica of the Tierney family, who died in 1785 leaving a mixed race, free mistress, Margaret Dunbar. He was brother to the Radical Whig politician George Tierney, MP, who was also involved with the West Indian trades through his brother in law, the London merchant and banker Abram Robarts, MP for Worcester. The surname Tierney might just be worth checking in Jamaica registers (Family search) or on ancestry, though it doesn’t follow that the servant necessarily bore it. But Clark did, and it may be that that would lead in interesting directions.
Jim Brennan
One additional comment – Clark’s will (very difficult to read online) mentions a Rev Bowerbank. Another Rev Bowerbank (Lewis) was a Church of England parish minister in Jamaica until the early 1840s. It’s quite a will.
Hi!
I’m currently researching my great great grandparents & was hoping you could help answer a query?
Their last known listed address in the 1880s was 1 Hatfield street in Fulham. I was hoping someone might be able to tell me whether this still exists as a residential area & if so what it might be called now?
Many Thanks, Alison
Hi
This has come up before.
Hotdesker wrote in August this year.
“Hatfield Street was definitely in Fulham. I have a number of census material that shows my family lived in the area.
An electoral listing shows it came under the Margravine Ward (No. 3 Margravine District. My family are shown on page 124 of the 1914 electoral list. Also mentioned on the page is Greyhound Road, where my GGP’s moved to later in life.” This map from Nat Liby of Scotland shows the area. Cannot see the name there but directories and other maps will be in the archive.
Good luck in your search.
Hatfield Street
1899
Avonmore Place Fulham W14
John’s Place 1909
Thank you!
Hi Hatfield St is now Flats called Cox House
Hatfield St is now Flats called Cox House in Field Rd.
I am trying to trace the photographer’s camera cat that used to operate from Dawes Rd Fulham. We got married on the 28/07/1979 and camera cat done the photography. We paid part of the bill but due to unforeseen circumstances didn’t pay the remainder always intending to later. We moved to Ireland in 1982 and by the time we were able to pay fir our Album the photographer’s were gone. Despite calling to the premises we couldn’t find any trace of them
I got married in June 1980 and we used Camera Cat as photographers for our wedding. They went out of business years ago.
Sir
I have seen Avonmore Road London W14 named as William Street on an old map before the nursery gardens were built on in the third and forth decade of 19thC. Thete are also various other road name differences.
Is there any history on this available?
This would be text or maps.
Thank you.
Hi, I believe there are bloggers on here related to Mr. Arthur Newport born 1869. He played for Fulham also becoming the club secretary. He was a master at Halfords school before. He married a Annie Stscey from Putney born 1872. They had a number of children. I also am related to the Stacey family and would very much like to get in touch as there is a mystery within the family and you never know they could help. Please e-mail : husseyboy@live.co.uk
Hi, following on from my previous note, I also have an interest in 28 Chesson Road West Kensington, the home of a great Grandfather etc and relatives with the surname CHALK. Does anyone have knowledge of that street 1900 – 1945? Thanks Terry Matthews
My mother was born at 10. On a recent visit to England 10 was still there. It is a street running from North End Road, cross street Lillie Road towards West Kensington tube station,
10 has three floors. Most of the street is in original condition but more upmarket than when my grandmother had to carry water up from ground level.
Although the archive is closed you could try emailing archives@lbhf.gov.uk with your search for photographs. Most streets are caught on 1960s photos but many have older pics too. There are also old maps and some church magazines but cannot recall seeing St Andrews.
good luck with your search.
My grandfather was born in Chesson Road in 1896. That road is still there.
Good Afternoon, Can any one assist with and inquiry re 1 May Street W14. Google maps show a @fairly recent@ street but I was wondering if any pictures/info survives of 1930s 1940’s May Street and details of any redevelopment. My family were in Dieppe Street at the time but it seems relatives used May street at the same time and were like my Nan and granddad were members of St Andrews Church. Many Thanks Terry Matthews springfield4000″msn.com
Hi
Looking for help on tracing Barbara lally from Dublin she was known, as nuala moved to London in 1938 and May have lived in the area,
She may have possibly served in the wrens or waafs during the war,
I do not know her married name
Any help kindly appreciated
Would anyone know of an old Button Factory in Fulham please? I know of the Pottery but am looking for the button factory- age wise – we lived in Cambria Street in the late 1940’s and heard about it.
Churchill and co. Made button at 35 Uxbridge road in the 1930’s
Thank you for this. I will see if I can get any further with it. Much appreciated.
Hi there, I’ve been trying to find some information on Greyhound Road, W6 for a number of years but have been unable to find something that would explain its name. Do you have any information?
Hi there,
Does anyone have a history of business on or near Pond St Hammersmith? I’m looking for a family related haulage firm or similar – surname is Brooks or Brookes. It would have been there c1920 onwards.
Many thanks!
Leigh,
I can’t help with the origins of Greyhound Lane’s name other than to say that greyhounds were used as hunting dogs before they were raced and it may be that the lane was named after where the dogs were kept before being taken hunting.
I do know that before it became Greyhound Lane it was called Musical Lane.
Muscal lane was a previous name for Greyhound Lane/road and was used in the court rolls of the 16thcentury. A very ancient highway with few houses . In the early 19th century it here was a public house of that name Dating from the 1800s.a well known pugilist lived there and trained people.
Thank you all, fascinating information! Any idea if/where I could access those court rolls or any other sources?
Check out the National archives website catalogue by putting in Fulham and court rolls .
Hammersmith archives may have a copy of some but they seem to be in the Guildhall manuscript collection but your other copies can be found in the London Metropolitan archives will ever they are located the National archives website will tell you good luck
Hi there
Do you happen to have any information about Staughton House, 3 Fulham Park Gardens, SW6? My family have lived here for over 65 years & I recall my Nan telling me a few stories about the place but wondered if there was anything documented about who lived here from 1879 when it was built?
Voters list can be checked at library. Nothing in Feret, although mentions a few other houses in the gardens.
Hi
i am researching my great grandfather Alfred Morris who was a police man in Hammersmith about 1880s, he retired in 1898. i wondered if you have any info regarding him or indeed pictures of the police station etc.
My e mail address is janetlovett3@msn.com.
I would appreciate any info that you may have.
Many thanks
Jan
My great grandfather also served as a policeman and was stationed at Hammersmith for his entire career, so maybe they knew each other. When I was researching his background I got a lot of help from the Friends of the Metropolitan Police Society. They do have a website but I think it is being updated or revised. Good Luck
R.W.
Hi. A late reply but new to this site. if you have more details of Alfred Morris stint with MetPol you could also try the National Archives which has MetPol records and or Ancestry website which has pension records. I have had a quick look and just based on name I couldn’t find any record. At the moment it is possible to access NA records for free (those that are digitised) although this will change I guess when things open up a bit. The station your fore are new was replaced on or before the 1930s when the ‘new’ station was built. There might be a picture on sites like Pintrest or Francis Frith but as already suggested you might get help from the Friends of MetPol. All the above may be old hat and you’ve already found what you want but hope it helps. I worked for MetPol for many years and I’ve found both cops and robbers in my tree!
My great great grandfather George Comber was also a constable in Hammersmith from 1872-1894 so they probably knew each other too!
I will take Reg Watson’s advice myself (thank you).
I know that it was T division (the station) and my relative was taken on a Scotland Yard. Have you seen your relative’s retirement notes? Mine notes his height, hair and eye colour and complexion which is interesting to know. Found on ancestry.
I’m looking for more information regarding the death of Mary Ann Arnold on 20 December 1922. She was knocked down and run over by a motor lorry when crossing the road. Can you advise where I can find more information/news article about the incident please? x
Published: Friday 29 December 1922 p 5
Newspaper: West London Observer
County: London, England
British library newsPaper archive as a report in the following newspaper it appears the lady was crossing the road at dusk on a windy day in the Gold Hawk Road on the corner of Brackenbury Road carrying a bag and holding her hat on when she walked into the path of a vehicle travelling towards Chiswick and 5 mph
I have article I found regarding the accident in Goldhawk Road
The lady had been to the Doctors
Write to my email below and I will send you a copy
Brian
I am interested in finding any records of the St Mary’s RC Orphanage for Girls, Brook Green Road and/or the Hammersmith Guardians.
I am looking for records of one Violet Ford who was in St Mary’s approx 1914 – 1918 and was adopted by the Hammersmith Guardians.
If you check out whodoyouthinkyouare.com you will find an article on the 14 best sites for checking orphanage records.
Search for orphanage records in the Census & Electoral Rolls index. If you’re looking for orphanage records and know the child’s original name, try searching census records with the name and using keywords “orphan” or “orphanage.” This can turn up the name of the orphanage at which the child lived.
Thank you
I recently used the paid document research facility of the London metropolitan archives as my great aunt was in an asylum. They hold records for the Hammersmith board of guardians.
Good Afternoon, I have an enquiry about street addresses in Fulham. My maternal grandmother was born in Fulham in 1894. Her birth certificate reads that she was born at 2 Kings Terrace, Fulham. I wondered if that correlates with the contemporary street address of 2 New Kings Road or whether Kings Terrace was a different location in Fulham in the late 19th century. Thank you.
King’s Terrace Fulham SW6
Chaldon Road 1882
This is where Dawes Road meets Munster Road,up by Fulham Cross.
A few months ago I asked if anyone could help with tracing the location of the Electric Palace Cinema which operated in Fulham around 1910-12 because my grandfather worked there as his first job. I was grateful for all the really helpful replies I received and can now say I have definitely located the place. It was indeed at 474 Fulham Road, next door to the Kings Head Pub at 476 and I have found some more recent photos of the building on-line. The Kings Head became the Slug and Lettuce, then the Slug and then the Broadway Bar and Grill and the doorway to 474 is still there and now leads to the Fulham Comedy Club, which, according to pictures on its website, still appears to have a stage and theatre. The doorway is just as it was when my grandfather (aged 14 to 16) and another lad (wearing their Electric Palace uniforms) were photographed in 1910 advertising for funds for the Xmas Pudding Club for the poor children. So thank you to everyone who replied.
Hi we used to go to the small cinema we called the bug hole down the side of Fulham Broadway station, formerly Walham Green station. This was early 50s. There was another cinema in Vanstone Place might have been The Regal then, not sure. There was another cinema in North End Road past the old Baths roughly where Waitrose is now. It was a funny sort of vintage clothes warehouse in the 70s before it was demolished. I hope this helps. Lesley
One of my ancestors has a place of birth in 1928 at 302 Fulham Palace Road. I understand that that might have been a maternity hospital – the SouthWestern Maternity home, which eventually became part of Charing Cross Hospital. But I have also seen that 302 is listed as the home of the composer Constant Lambert (1905-1951). Is there anybody able to shed any light on what exactly was at 302 Fulham Palace Road in 1928. Many thanks Andrew Hubbard
I am researching my mothers family background. From her birth cert. She was born in 1932 at Parkside maternity home and her mother lived at 26 Edith road, hammersmith. Her father was Alan Beresford Moore. Who worked at a hotel in overstone road. This is much as I know. Any other info would be gratefully received.
Thanks
Mike
There has been a hotel, Had many names over the years located at the bottom of Overstone Road where it meets Glenthorne Road on the corner it is not very large and has expanded over the years into neighbouring properties I believe.It is now called a boutique Helton concept hotel Luma.
As far as I can find out, Parkside Maternity Home was an institution for “destitute” women, basically a workhouse. I believe it was located at the original Parkside House in Ravenscourt Park (the west side) which was demolished circa 1933 to allow The Royal Masonic Hospital (which subsequently became Ravenscourt Hospital) to be built.
Hello, I’m wondering if you could help me. My great grandmother Elizabeth McDermott and her daughter Elsie came over in 1920 from Australia, when Elsie married my grandfather. Her married name was Elsie Castle. They both died in Fulham, my great grandmother in 1922 and my grandmother in 1923. They were Catholics and although I know where and when they died from Ancestry and Death Certificates, I don’t know where they were buried and this is where I would like help if possible. Thank you.
I assume your ancestors died in Fulham but if not the following will not be much help.
By 1922 there were two Catholic Churches in Fulham. St Thomas of Canterbury and Holy Cross. My family were associated with Holy Cross but this parish never had its own cemetery. On the other hand St Thomas’ has a large churchyard and my family are there. St Thomas’ has a web site so you might try messaging them but in my experience London Catholic parishes are very poor at record keeping. I still visit Fulham although I now live away in Sussex and if you don’t get anywhere with St Thomas’ direct I would be happy to visit the Churchyard and have a look for myself. Unfortunately the churchyard is usually closed to the public as it became full some years ago (my mother was I think the last person to be buried there) but perhaps I could get permission to have a look around on your behalf.
The other possibility is the nearby Fulham Cemetery in Fulham Palace Road which is I think administered by the London Borough of Hammersmi9th and Fulham. I suspect they have good records of burials so that is another option for you. If you would like to get in touch direct my email is basilelaine@aol.com.
Good luck
Hello Basil,
Thank you so much for your reply. I’m not sure, if they are buried in either of these cemeteries, whether their graves are marked in any way. I will try the web sites for these cemeteries first but may well be back in touch. Thank you again for information. Amanda.
St Mary’s Catholic Cemetery is located at Kensal Green in London, England, and has its own Catholic Chapel. Its official website was updated in 2019.
This cemetery was also used
Thank you very much for this information. Amanda
Hello, to all who have helped me with information regarding Catholic burials, THANK YOU. I have found the burials of my grandmother and great grandmother at St Mary’s Catholic Cemetery. I am truly grateful. Amanda
I left Fulham (Lindrop Street) in 1963 when I was 10, and left behind a number of friends. It would be nice to drop them an email saying ”here I am, after 57 years. Do you remember me?”. I honestly don’t expect anybody to remember me but I wish to try anyway. My former friends were Philip Turner, David Brooks and David Webster.
Many thanks
Regards, Robert Comber
Two of them are members of the Facebook group entitled “I grew up in Fulham”.
Many thanks.
I’ll no doubt give it a try.
Hello , I am researching something called the Heston Cup of 1903 , i am in possession of a very nice gold and silver medal/fob with the above engraved on its rear, on front are the (i assume) winners initials “H.C.” , i cannot locate any info at all on this “cup” , i don not even know for what sport , i am in Australia so any help you could pass on would be greatly appreciated , thank you and regards Kim .
A quick search shows Heston Sports Ground in non league football and public schools fixtures. Latterly it was owned and managed by Imperial College now bought by Queens Park Rangers Football Club. So there could be a connection and you might find some leads from this website.
having trouble tracing a great aunt .have many birth certificates to no avail .emilycollins born 1897 .earlsfield .
4 yrs old on the 1901 census.
I have found a Emily collins b 1897 in the fulham infirmary .but nomination of parents any one know where I can go from here.withthanks .Mike collins
Mike,
Unfortunately, Emily Collins was quite a common name around this time period. I might be able to narrow it down for you if you can tell me if she had any middle names and if she ever married.
I think the Emily Collins you’re referring to in the 1901 Census was living in Guelph Road. This later became Kimber Road.
Hi Mark, The Emily that Michael is looking for matches up with my Grandmother she did not have a middle name and Elesfield is the Wandsworth area. Many thanks for helping him regards Jean
Hi Michael my grandmother was Ellen Collins born 1897 known as Emily her father on her marriage cert is a Samuel collins . He was a builder who built most of Wandsworth town.
Ellen had a brother peter living in Putney . As far as i know they came from cork ireland.
I hope this is some help for you.
Hi Michael, i believe the
Emily Collins you are looking for is my grandmother she was allways a bit of a mystery when i grew up she was know as Ellen
She Married Cecil Royle in 1919 And they had 5 children and was living at 8 Geraldine Road Wandsworth. There children Terence William born 1919 Denis 1924 twins Leonard and Lionel 1925 margaret 1927 all born Wandsworth. This is y you could not find her she re married a Mr Charles Mc Ewen in 1954 in Wandsworth and was living at 60 Wadham road Putney she is Buried at Putney vale cemetery as Amelia Mc Ewen 1968. I have grown up not knowing any of the Collins side of the family only that grandmother had a brother Peter i was taken to meet him at a flat next to Putney cemetery he was married and had a very young son age about 4 in 1968
I hope this is some help to you
From jean pikett. Sanderstead.
Hi Michael Emily’s mother died i was Tould when Emily was Two her father was a builder his name on her marriage cert is Samuel Collins Who came over two England from County CORK. He Built Most of the house in Wandsworth and Putney. The company was trading as Mitchell and Collins. EMILY MAY HAVE GROWN UP IN A Catholic orphanage.
Hi there,
Do you have any pictures of when Fulham Rugby Football Club started playing back at Craven Cottage in 1979/80?
There was a picture of two girls sitting on a rugby players shoulders, and the TV cameras were there too. (I was one of the girls).
I hope you can help. Thank you so much.
Kindest regards
Georgie Heapy 🙏🏻
Suggest you check the British newspaper archives online advanced search ticking illustrated option and time limit it for say a year.
Hi, I am trying to find out if Caroline Place in Fulham became Caroline Walk and are there any photographs exisiting please?
This website seems to confirm this but a full answer and possible photographs would be in the LBHF archive in Hammersmith Library. If you are not local it may be worth an email to archives@lbhf.gov.uk there would be a small charge for any copies. Currently the archive is locked down like the rest of us.
Bruce’s lists has
Caroline Place Fulham W6
Caroline Walk 1937
Thank you. I’ll contact them tomorrow. 🙏🏻
Got a couple of photos of Caroline Walk as well as many personal memories of playing there as a kid – if you message mrbtjb@gmail.com I will reply and attach the photos
Thank you all for your help. Much appreciated.
Hi, I am researching family history and wanting to find records of an Edward Pitkeathly who was named as a resident of Rowton House (a workhouse) on the Hammersmith Rd in 1946. Any records you have or may be aware of relating to the workhouse and it’s residents and how long Edward was there for (and why) would be most appreciated. Many thanks.
Hi Mark – I am researching my great grandfather who was a resident of Rowton House just before he died in 1915. There is information about the history of the Rowton Houses online at http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Rowton which made me feel a lot better about my relative being in there! There are photographs etc, some of which may relate more to the time you are interested in. I hope that helps a bit – if you should discover where one can access registers / logs for Rowton House, I would be very glad to hear, please.
Kind regards, Tracey Robins
Just a quick update on the search for my late grandfather’s shop in Filmer Road, Fulham. The photograph we have is of a shopfront with the name W.R.Dracott above, General Stores, and my late grandmother standing in front. We have now discovered a receipt for the purchase of the business at 44 Filmer Road. It was bought for £140 with a £10 deposit. Thank you to all those who commented and spent time searching for the premises. Much appreciated.
I have been researching my grandfather’s family. They lived in Cristowe Road in Fulham in the early 1900s. Of particular interest to me is that 2 of his brothers attended Ackmar Road School (possibly because of problems with their hearing) I was wondering if anyone has any information about the school or knew of any other resources where I could obtain more information. Many Thanks
Hi, yes there was a deaf school at Ackmar Road, but sadly it is now closed. My first wife (we are deaf) attended this school in the 1960s. The Principal was a Mrs Reid. Records of this school should be at the London Metropolitan Archive, if not at the H&F Archives.
Hi Ian, I grew up and lived in Fulham for the first 30 years of my life. In the 1940’s and 50’s Ackmar Road school was known as an establishment for those children who had proven difficult to teach in mainstream education. From the comments you have received it looks to me as though the facility for hard of hearing came about in later times than I have mentioned. If you are looking at your family in the early 1900’s I too would be interested to learn if the facility for deaf children at this school existed in those times. Good luck with your research.
In the 1950s there were three classes of Secondary school
Grammar, Central and Secondary Modern. Ackmar Road was a Secondary Modern for those children not considered good enough for the other two. the teaching I gather was less academic and possibly more practical..
My colleague known as ‘History All Saints Fulham’ wrote the following back in July. Hope it helps.
“A history of a London school for the deaf: Ackmar Road, 1898-1983
Author: Geoffrey J Eagling; British Deaf History Society
Publisher: Feltham British Deaf History Society Publications ©1998.
This book covers the deaf schools history,Which I think was a separate smaller building on the site.
But there was the standard school design building also that had quite a bad reputation this when it closed became
St. Marks lower school when both schools eventualy closed completely it was changed into a council housing development this was most important at the time as Hammersmith & Fulham Council had a hung council and the old Eel brook common ward was very marginal. (No overall control from 1978-1986)There was an unusual covenant in the lease which meant that the school had to remain the school unless it was no longer required as an educational establishment but only if a direct descendent of Queen Victoria was no longer living”
Thank you for all your comments- I will definitely check out several of the sources mentioned.
Hi
I have just watched a film on TV Talking Pictures called The Silent Hope that features Ackmar School for deaf children. It was made 1959 with the LCC by Custom Films presented by George Chatterton. It had a lot about this school and good it was.
Just for interest there is a free short Introduction to Genealogy course available at the moment, provided online by Futurelearn and the Open University. As a complete novice I’m finding it a helpful starting point for family research. Apologies if you are already aware of this. Here’s the link:
https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/genealogy
Hi Robert
Thanks for the info.
I have been researching both my and my husband’s family trees for prob 10 years now so have lots of experience in this, though I do not claim ‘expertise’. Am always happy to try and help others with their research so do let me know if you think I might be able to help you.
It took me many years to finally crack the mystery as to the real identity of my gt grandmother (like your dad she was born to a single mother) and the name on her marriage cert was not the name her birth was registered under. With dogged determination and many hours of work, I did manage to piece the bits together.
In a previous post you mentioned Anselm Rd. I know it well as I grew up in a street literally round the corner to it.
Do let me know if I might be of any help.
Pauline
Thanks Pauline. As the occupation given for my alleged father’s father (John Thomas Smith) was Upholsterer Journeyman, would that suggest he served a long apprenticeship and if so, are there likely to be records of his apprenticeship somewhere with trade guilds? Journeyman suggests a travelling tradesman – is that correct? I just wondered if any of the Fulham trade directories for somewhere between 1920 and 1925 might list him at the address given on my dad’s birth certificate – 11 Heckfield Place, Fulham, but I suppose if he didn’t have commercial premises it probably wouldn’t. I just wonder how a skilled upholsterer would advertise his craft without premises? Door to door perhaps? If only we could travel back in time.
Any advice or help would be gratefully received. I live in Dorset now but when restrictions allow I intend to visit some of my family’s old haunts in Fulham. It has a strong pull.
Thanks
Robert
Robert
Beware of the word journeyman its is not always what it seems
I came across it twice as a lie when they were hiding their own history for personal reasons. I mention this as you say your alleged fathers father.
Also my mother was born in the st dunstans road infirmary and managed to get details of dates etc
Brian
Thank you Brian. I’m beginning to understand that nothing should be taken at face value when researching family history. Errors in transcriptions, misunderstandings, red herrings, cover ups and lies abound in one side of my family, whereas myths and embellishments colour the other. One of my great grandparents was thought of as someone high up in the medical world – it transpires that he was employed at a Fulham hospital as a chimney sweep cum window cleaner. Nothing will surprise me now. Thanks for everyone’s comments – much appreciated. This is a great forum.
Hi Pauline. Would welcome any advice you can offer….I’m trying to trace my Nan’s parents. She was Cecilia Pickard of Danehurst Street Fulham ( married Stanley Pickard in 1925) the marriage certificate has her father as John Driscoll (deceased). Her sister Mary married a John Noble and her marriage certificate says the father was Edward John Driscoll (deceased). No-one in the family knows the mothers name
Any suggestions would be more than welcome. I know the birth certificate should give me more but there are so many Driscolls in London at that time and other than the marriage certificate I have no early record of her – apart from a loose connection to a Celia Driscoll in a Church School in the 1911 Census. Any thoughts? Kind regards
Hi Chris
Have had a quick root around but you have given me little to go on so it is a guesstimate only.
I found a marriage in St Peter’s, Hammersmith in 1880 of an Edward Driscoll and a Cecilia Scanes. Both give address as 2 Alma Terrace. Edward born c.1859 in Hammersmith, Cecilia born c.1860 in Chatham, Kent. Edward’s father is Jerome Driscoll. A Cecilia Driscoll’s death was registered in the Fulham District in 1907.
I found the couple and their children on the 1881 and 1891 census records. There is a Celia Driscoll on the 1911 census at St Josephs School for Roman Catholic Girls, Brook Green, Hammersmith. Her birthplace is ‘unknown’. She is a boarder which may tie up with the death of Cecilia (nee Scanes) in 1907.
Edward and Cecilia’s children as shown on the census records I’ve found are Ellen, Henry, George and Mary.
As I say this is my best guess and some of it may be meaningful to you.
Do let me know if this ties in with anything you already know
Hi Pauline. Really grateful for you spending time to research and reply. Nan was Cecilia Agnes Driscoll and was 22 when she married in 1925 . I have made the assumption that she is the Celia Driscoll you have found in 1911 census as I know she was a boarder at some kind of institution. Can I reach you on Ancestry UK where I can share more of what I have ? My family tree is called “Hare Family Tree” ?
Hi Chris
I will look out your tree on Ancestry so we can correspond on that as need be.
I couldn’t find any birth registration for Celia/Cecilia on the GRO index but there’s loads of errors in their indexes just as there are on Ancestry.
All the best
Hi Pauline. Thata the problem – how things are recorded. Nans sister Mary was 19 when she married John William Noble at St John’s Church in Fulham 27.3.1910 and I am told Nan had 2 brothers who were shipped out to Australia as kids under the care of the church but have no names or DOB. Look forward to hearing from you via Ancestry . Kind regards. Chris Hare
Hi. I am researching my family background. They lived in Basuto Road Fulham. Records indicate that their house was bombed sometime before 1943. Is there any record of such wartime events?
The ‘Bombsight’ web site shows one direct hit with a high explosive bomb in Basuto Road close to the junction of Ackmar Road. Several other bombs fell close by. The target was probably the district railway line which runs very close to Basuto Road. The bomb image on the bombsight web site is opposite the current site of Holy Cross School which was of course not there in the 1940’s. I grew up in Fulham and recall a scattering of prefab houses in that part of the Borough but I can’t recall if there were any in Basuto Road. The ground opposite the current school is occupied by a small 1960’s development of flats which sort of fits with your information. If you know the number you could use google maps to find the house or the building now on the site. Most 1950/60s housing in that part of the borough were just infills so if the flats are where your family house was its likely that the site was cleared by the luftwaffe!
Ackmar road and Irene road had continuous numbering.
Nos1-24 Ackmar south side were consecutive up to the right hand bend. Nos 25-30 north side were destroyed,However a prefab number 29 was erected on the corner with Campana.
In Irene Road 31 to 35 were lost and this space was replaced by two for prefabs number is 31 and 32 when these were subsequently pull down the school keep this house for Lady Margaret School was erected but even this has now been absorbed into the new development of the school.if you require a postwar map of the area let me know…click on my logo for email address, and I will send it.
My father was also a long suffering Fulham supporter. He lived in Lilyville Road during the 40s and always said he had a choice of turning right to go to Craven Cottage or left to Stamford Bridge. He chose right to Fulham!
His bad choices came down the gene’s to me as I chose Charlton to follow so I feel your pain Basil.
Hi again. A real Smith conundrum and potential bigamy in the family have got me stumped. Could someone help please?
My father was christened John Smith, and was born on 19 October 1925. His birth certificate states place of birth as being 103, St. Dunstan’s Road, Fulham. Was this the site of a former workhouse as we have always been led to believe? It’s now the site of Charing Cross Hospital.
My dad was always ashamed that he was born illegitimate but his mother always claimed she went through a “form of marriage” with my dad’s father somewhere in Fulham but I can find no trace of this anywhere. My Dad’s birth certificate states his “father” was a John Thomas Smith of 11 Heckfield Place, Fulham, and mother as Selina Maud Smith, formerly Patterson of the same address. Father’s occupation is given as Upholsterer Journeyman.
Rumour within the family is that my father’s father was already married when he met my grandmother. I’m not sure where to start looking for reports of bigamy in local Fulham papers of the time, if in fact it ever occurred. Could someone point me in the right direction please? (I note that 11 Heckfiled Place would have been immediately opposite the old Fulham Police station, so he was taking quite a risk, if he was already married.)
The plot thickens with my dad’s mother recorded as living at 18 Hugon Road, Fulham in 1933 using her maiden name, Selina Maud Patterson and sharing a house with a Harry, James and George Smith, none of whom are believed to be my father’s father. More confusing still is that in the 1939 register she appears as Selina Maud Patterson (widowed) and living at 1a Anselm Road Fulham with a different Smith (James Smith), whom she later married legally in 1943. She also turns up in later records living in Colehill Lane, Fulham.
I have trouble getting my head around it all with so many myths and too many Smiths.
Thanks
Hi Robert
Yes, 103 Dt Dunstan’s Rd was Fulham workhouse.
Do you know who all the Smiths with whom Selina was living on the 1933 electoral list were? Could some of them be your grandfather’s siblings? Annie Elizabeth Sutton married a Harry James Smith in Fulham in 1901 so Harry might well have been born around the same year as John Thomas Smith.
Seems unlikely Selina was actually married to John Thomas Smith if she carried on using her maiden name. However, if the Smiths she is living with in 1933 ARE John’s rellies then she must have had a good relationship with the family.
Shame your father felt stigmatised by being born to a single woman. It was rife, just covered up.
Good luck – researching Smiths is no mean feat!
Pauline
Thank you Pauline. The human desire to understand who we are and where we’ve come from is profound. My father said his early childhood in Fulham was so painfully deprived that he blotted it out. My grandmother did her best for him but it affected him deeply. Having said that he said his happiest Fulham days were those as a member of the congregation at All Saints church, where he met my mum, who helped organise the Sunday school. He also loved Fulham FC and he’s passed that on to me.
Appreciate your help.
Kind Regards
Robert
Hi Robert, Just a note to say that if your dad was a Fulham supporter he must have been a great fellow. It takes a certain resolve to support The Whites as our success is usually scraps from the table of our more successful neighbours particularly Walham Green FC. Good to know you have inherited his devotion. Sadly for them so have two of my children and three Grandchildren. Last Christmas I asked my 7 year old granddaughter what she would like for a present. She paused and then replied ‘Well, I would like to see Fulham win’. I think this underlines what makes a real Fulham supporter.
Hi Basil. I was lucky enough to see George Best, Rodney Marsh and Bobby Moore play at Craven Cottage in 1976. They made watching football so entertaining. My late mum recalled watching the Whites play when she was about 5 in the early 1930s perched on my grandfather’s shoulders. She said she couldn’t ever remember seeing them win but just enjoyed the friendly atmosphere and the roar and groans of the crowd. History repeats itself!
Hi. I’ve discovered an old family photograph showing my grandparents’ shop in what we believe to be Filmer Road in Fulham. The name above the shop is W.R.Dracott (William Richard Dracott, my grandfather) and either side of his name it says, “Grocery Provisions & General Stores”. We believe the photo was taken in the mid 1930s. The number above the door is blurred but could be “42”. Would someone be able to confirm that this shop was indeed in Filmer Road and what address it was. The 1939 register doesn’t reveal a number 42 Filmer Road, however the shop appears to be a lockup with no upstairs accommodation. I believe my grandparents lived in Micklethwaite Road at the time, with my great grandparents, also named Dracott.
The shop front has advertising signs including Nugget boot polish, Beefex, Excel luncheon sausage and Pork Brawn , Monk & Glass custard, HP sauce, Cadbury cocoa and Bovril.
I’m interested to know what happened to the shop as my grandmother Laura Dracott, who managed it, was evacuated with my mother to Brighton at the outbreak of war and didn’t return to Fulham until 1943 when she moved with my grandfather mother and uncle to Epple Rd in Fulham.
Many thanks for your help.
I live just round the corner but as you are probably aware from street view there is no such number now but it could have been in the area where there are garages or possibly the rear extension to a mansion block.
The answer will lie in the LBHF archives but they are closed at present. Do write to archives@lbhf.gov.uk there may well be photos and directories to help.
Meanwhile no doubt one of our regulars will come up with an answer.
Good luck.
Thank you, I’ll do that. I’ll email the photo too.
Kelly’s directory of Fulham 1939-40 hasWilliam Draycott senior at number 30 Micklethwaite Road , William Draycot Junior is is at 7 Epple Road, .
There is no number 42 listed in Fillmore Road only a 42B and a 42C. Nothing is listed in the trades directory or commercial directory that is relevant
Thank you. Yes, that matches with the address info I have for my great grandfather and grandfather in Micklethwaite Road and Epple Road. The spelling is Dracott but a “y” often crept in. The photo of the shop in Filmer Road, with the name W.R.Dracott, looks to be early to mid 1930s going by the clothing style worn by my grandmother who is standing in front of it. A pity I can’t share the photo here but I have sent it to the archivist at lbhf as suggested earlier. The number above the door is very blurred so may not be 42 but could be 42a. Appreciate your help.
Sorry, not 42a.
Sorry about spelling. Blame spell autocorrect. There is no number 42 either. If you click on church picture you will find a contact email from me so could send image if you would like
Hi,
My Nan went to Hurlingham Girls school on Hugon Road in Fulham from about 1951 to 1953. I’m trying to look into the history of the school and wondered if you had any information on it’s past or what’s happened to it since as I can’t find much information online.
Kind regards,
Alexander
Hi Alexander, I lived in the Sands End area of Fulham for the first 30 years of my life. I certainly recall what the locals referred to as the ‘old’ Hurlingham School (for Girls). It is (was) on the corner of Hugon and Peterborough Road. The building was in the typical style of a three storey London school with an assembly hall on each floor. I actually attended the Boy Scouts that met there weekly. I recall the school relocated to a much larger,modern building further down Peterborough Road on the left hand side heading towards the New Kings Road. My old school Chelsea Central merged with this school in the 1960’s and I believe the new name for the enlarged school was Chelsea School. I hope this is ueful to you and I suspect others will be able to expand on what I have described.
My Mum Maureen Drake went to Hurlingham Girls. All my family are from Fulham…Foxs Pullens Drakes Lawrence’s
Hello Mick
This is a long shot and not connected to your question about Hurlingham school, but did your mother once have a friend in Fulham called Mary Morris? And did your mum visit Dublin to stay with Mary after the latter moved back to Ireland? I’d be interested to hear if your mum is the Maureen I remember.
Deirdra Morris
Hi Diedra,
No I’m afraid that wasn’t my mum.
Regards
Michael
Thank you Michael.
Alexander, this is a link to info describing the school that I described earlier. It looks as if it has in turn been converted to an Academy status. The name now looks to be Hurlingham Academy. https://get-information-schools.service.gov.uk/Establishments/Establishment/Details/100361
Alexander, The school your Grandparent would have attended in Hugon Road is now called St Thomas’s. You can view it on Google Maps in street view. There used to be a St Thomas’s school in another part of Fulham but I cannot be certain if this is that school relocated to Hugon Road. South Park is situated right opposite the school so I bet your Grandparent would have spent many an hour in there. This school is not close to public transport so I suspect they would have had quite a walk unless they lived local to the school.
Thank you very much that’s very useful to know. Yes she was mentioning South Park.
Hi I went to Hurlingham School for Girls 1957. The first year was spent in the Hugon Road building that was previously the old Hurlingham School. It was a typical late Victorian building with tiled walls and stone staircases. I have tried to find out more about the original school but there seems to be little about. After the first year girls went up to the new building in Peterborough Road built 1956. if you look at the Hurlingham reunited site you might be able to contact someone who knows about the original school. I think some of the teachers we had were from the old school. I will find out what the actual name of the old girls site is and let you know ( if you don’t know already) and anything else that I can find.
regards, Lesley
Joseph Collard a stonemason born in 1845 in Chelsea and married 10 April 1864 to Elizabeth Dorey at St Peter’s Church Hammersmith.
Would anyone have any information to share about Joseph Collard?
I think he might have been the captain of the Serpentine swimming club from 1893 to 1910.
Thank you
I lived at 14 Townmead Rd from 1950 to 1960. I’ve looked on maps and can’t find Ismaila Rd, which was just round the corner from us, is it still there please.
Jean,
There is an Ismailia House on the corner of Townmead Road and De Morgan Road. I don’t know when the area was redeveloped or why.
Ismalia Road was a small right angled road that joined Townmead Road to Wandsworh Bridge road. I have a map showing it if you are interested. It was demolished when the whole area was rebuilt ? in the 1950s
If one checks Hammersmith & Fulham Libraries website for Ismailia road there are two entries one for a shed in 1945 and one for transformer chamber in 1953 although it was pre postcode time they give a postcode of SW6 2PD this if one checks thisPostcode today it gives the location of Barton house Wandsworth Bridge Road
Please can anyone help? I am looking for any information about the Electric Palace Cinema in Fulham where my grandfather got his first job; He left school (Munster Road) aged 14 yrs in 1908; he was certainly working as a “hall porter, picture house” at the time of the 1911 census and I have a photograph of him in the Electric Palace uniform with the name around the hat. I believe the cinema was located at 474, Fulham Road? Does anyone know what the original buildings were like and how long it operated for? I would be grateful for any information, please.
Thank you.
Giz, there was an Elexctric Cinema in Fulham, located at 303, North End Road, which is close to the corner of Bramber Road. There were a number of Electric Cinemas around the country and if you Google it you’ll find photos of some but I wasn’t able to find the one in North End Road. There was also a cinema at 344 North End Road but I’m not sure if it was called the Electric. 344 stands somewhere between Epirus and Shorrolds Road At 260 North End Road stood the Fulham Picture Palace (later known as The Ritz.
Hi There,
this cinema was located at Fulham Broadway. It was accessed down a narrow passage way, which if you look on the present google street view is the grey gated one between the Pub\(various names over years) and the orange coloured brickwork of the former entrance to the Underground . in later years it was a bingo hall. The following is from the cinematreasures.org website
Located in the Walham Green area of the west London district of Fulham. Opened as the Broadway Gardens Cinema on 19th November 1910 with a seating capacity given as 816. The cinema was hidden from view from the main Fulham Broadway and was located up a narrow alley on the approach to Walham Green underground railway station (today known as Fulham Broadway tube station). A 1912 postcard does exist in Fulham and Hammersmith A portrait in old picture postcards, by Drinkwater, Loobey and Whitehouse (yes our Chair). it is a Johns PC 1228
In 1937 it is listed as the Broadway Cinema with seating for 850 persons and from 1943 it was taken over by the Birmingham based Clifton Cinemas Ltd.
The Broadway closed on 26th March 1955 with Charles Chaplin in “Modern Times”. It was converted into a bingo hall, then after a few years it became an Irish social club named the Hiberian Club. By March 2000 it was in use as an all-night nightclub named the Leopard Lounge but this closed and the building has since been demolished.
Yes, Vernon, the one behind the station was the Broadway Gardens but there was also another on the Fulham Road, opposite the Granville Theatre, known as Pike’s Circuit.
Giz, that book I mentioned is very expensive but this link tells much about the various cinema chains of the time and Montagu Pyke in particular –
Click to access unequal_pleasures.pdf
I was born in Archel Road W14 in 1954. My mother was a Scottish pianist who played boogie-woogie music in a local band. She went by the name of Marion. She had played previously with the Phil Green Ochestra — can anyone confirm or provide any further details?
I’ve traced Pyke’s Walham Green (now Fulham Broadway) Cinematograph Theatre to 583 Fulham Road. Pyke had 14 cinemas and the Walham Green one opened in 1909. Pyke was made bankrupt in 1915.
Historyaschurchfulham is also correct because Broadway Gardens was also a theatre owned by Pyke. I’m just too young to remember it as a cinema but I did enjoy many a night in the Hibernian Club, built on the site.
Giz, I can now confirm that the cinema at 474 Fulham Road (where the Sports Bar now stands, next to the old entrance to Fulham Broadway Station) was called the Electric Palace, as you said. The Electric Palaces were a chain of cinemas around London. There first one was at the Marble Arch end of Oxford Street.
A book called The British Cinema Boom 1909-1914 by Jon Burrows might be able to help more.
Wow, thanks. That was a fantastic load of responses and will give me plenty of research to be getting on with. My grandfather became assistant manager at the Palladium Picture Playhouse in Brixton in 1915 where he met my grandmother who was a cashier there. Thanks again
Thanks Mark, For picture houses that became or were theatres http://www.Arthurlloyd.co.uk Is a must to check out..the Brixton palladium is on it including photos.the website is brilliant. PS you may wonder about all these fabulous websites that contain very interesting information as to what happens to them if they fold well it is possible to register them with the British library and they take precautions to record the information available for posterity
Vernon,
If I remember rightly, it was you who alerted me to the British Library’s UK Web Archive and I registered the Sloane website as a site of historical interest with them in 2013. Thanks for jogging my memory, Vernon. I’ve now updated the Home Page of the Sloane website to alert members to this. I did let everyone know when I did it but as it was 7 years ago it’s probably a good time to place information about what I did permanently on the website. Thanks.
Mark
My family are travelling Showpeople and my great grandmother Beatrice Pettigrove was christened at St Johns Chelsea in 1892. The family’s address was 368 Stamford Bridge. Where would that have been and was there a fairground in the area at that time please?
I cannot find a reference to Stamford Bridge other than the Studios but Stamford Road became Holmead Road. I am sure one of our other contributors will come up with more useful inforamtion.
Good luck with your search.
368 Fulham Road is actually right next door to Stamford Bridge and the block is known as Mentone mansions it is technically in Chelsea SW10. I would suggest that as Fulham Road was a long road it was easier to use the number and locate it as it was right next door to a well-known feature. Incidentally the bridge that carries the Kings Road over the railway line is known as Stanley bridge the boundary markers been on the bridges themselves
I am researching family who lived in Wheatsheaf Ally, Fulham shown on census records for 1851-1871. I gather the alley is no longer there. Are you able to point me towards any sources of information about the place itself and the way of life, please?
Ann, you probably know that Wheatsheaf Alley was a very narrow alley which ran from alongside the Wheatsheaf Public House, on the corner of Fulham Road and Darlan Road (formerly the site of Walham Avenue and Lodge Avenue), up to Dawes Road from where it continued as Goater’s Alley. It’s last seen in the Census in 1881 and between then and 1891 it became Wheatsheaf Terrace (much more upmarket!). What remains of it today is still called Wheatsheaf Twerrace but it only consists of a few houses that run between Dawes Road and Burnthwaite Road, parallel with Kelvedon Road. Lodge and the other ‘Avenues’ were the poorest areas of Fulham yet, only yards away, stood larger houses belonging to the wealthy. The Acenues remained occupied until the building of Fulham Court in 1931 and, later, Lancaster Court in the 1950s, although the Second World War bombing did some of the clearance work for the council. When the Avenues were demolished Lodge Avenue and most of Wheatsheaf Terrace were demolished to provide Darlan Road and Lancaster Court. Barbara Denny’s book Fulham Past is excellent but doesn’t say much more about the area than I’ve said here. Charles Booth’s Poverty Notebooks and Maps will probably give you a better idea of what the area was like. Try online at –
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/notebooks?q=wheatsheaf+alley+fulham&mode=any
Hi, I am trying to find my Great Great Grandfather George Baker. I know from his marriage certificate of 14 May 1893 which I have found through Ancestry that his birth year would be 1867 or 1868. The marriage took place at St Peters Church in the parish of St Peters Hammersmith in the County of London. There are a lot of George Baker’s births registered in those years and I am finding it very difficult to narrow down the list. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Teresa
Could you use George’s father’s name and occupation, assuming those details are on the marriage certificate, to locate them on census records within a family group?
Thanks for the suggestion Pauline. I will give that a try. George’s father is also called George and they are both laborers according to the marriage certificate.
Hi, is there anyone with memories of Tilton Street (the street was in two halves) and our half was pulled down in the early 1960’s. Tilton Street was next to Lintaine Grove and backed on to Church Path.
Hello Lesley I lived in Lintaine Grove from 1948 to 1963 and i have some photos of the area.
My relative George Smallman (b. 1856) moved with his family to Glenrosa St in Fulham in 1901. They are on the census in 1901 and George is on the electoral register until 1907. In 1911 the family is still in Glenrosa St but George is absent (he is still described as the head of house and his wife marks herself as ‘married’). In Nov. 1914 his daughter marries and he is described as ‘deceased’ on the record. There is no civil death record and I haven’t located a burial or inquest. The rest of the family stayed and thrived in Fulham. Any suggestions on how to track George’s fate down? Thank you for your attention.
Unusual for people to disappear in the UK so I searched freeBMD. This link shows a George T Smallman who died in 1925 at roughly the right age. You would need to send for the certificate to check if it is the same George. Could be “deceased” was the least embarrasing explanation for left home. You could check his employment to see if it involved working abroad.
Someone else may come up with more helpful angles. At present you cannot check the archives although most records are likely to be in Ancestry or Find my Past.
Good luck with your research.
Yes I agree re 1925 death if his middle name was initial T possibly Thomas. Need more info on what you have on this person as there will be and are lots of George Smallman s so every fact known and confirmed will help .
It’s possible he could have left the family and it would be quote common for the family to fib and it was easy to say he had died
Rather than admit to shame. They may not be the case but I have come across it several times.
More information on George required middle name work any medical probs exact place of birth
You can contact below if you wish
Thank you both for this. He had no middle name. He was born in Upton Bishop, Herefordshire. The family seem to have moved to Fulham because he had been in prison a couple of times. I’m still looking for links to the boro’ that would have suggested it as an option. The rest of the family (wife and children) seemed to do well in Fulham. It’s certainly possible he fled – he absconded once before and was tracked down by the police. The George Thomas S who died in 1925 was from Staffs and is a different person (but thanks again for the advice).
8 October 2020
G’day from Melbourne, Australia
I was born in Hammersmith but have lived the larger part of my life here. I am trying to get some pointers where an address 60 Reonale Terrace, Hammersmith recorded or the marriage of a family member William John Jennings and Isabel Denton 25 December 1889. Could anyone suggest an index, directory or map to look up please.
Many thanks
Mike Hester
[Michael John Hester]
E: mike.hester@ozguyz.com
The road name sounds like a miss spelling. Try this directory from Leicester Uni, the ‘R’s start at page 460.
As for the marriage you will need more details to get further if you have already exhausted Ancestry or Find My Past you will have to send for a copy of the certificate. Free BMD shows the record as Fulham Volume 1a page 502.
(Note Fulham encompassed Hammersmith then )
Good luck with your search.
I have discovered my great grandparents were married in St Thomas’ RC Church, Fulham Fields in 1874. They lived at 3 and 17 Crown Street, Parsons Green, Fulham, respectively. I cannot find any trace of Crown Street in my A-Z of London. Does anyone have any clue what has happened to this street? I found a Crown Lane which was close to the church.
Stephen, Crown Street became Novello Street.
Ah, that makes more sense. The only Crown St I could find was up in Acton. Do you know if there was a Caroline Place in the Parsons Green area? The only one I can locate is off the Moscow Rd in Paddington, which is where the rest of my family are from. Maybe they moved from Parsons Green to Paddington, I’ve no idea. And why is Fulham in the Registration District of Kensington back in 1874? Any ideas
Novello Street has its entranceis opposite Parsons Green Underground station and changed its name in 1895 the pub on the corner at 45 parsons Green Lane was known as the Rose and Crown and it is now called Novellos but it is presently closed .it was owned by Punch properties til 2010, but is now privately owned, it’s on the 25 year lease to Cote It was rebuilt by Crown,a local brewery in 1881.
Caroline Place Hammersmith & Fulham W6 & SW6 Fulham Palace Road #1882
Caroline Place Kensington, Chelsea & Fulham SW3, 10 & 6 Fulham Road # 1862
Caroline Place Chelsea & Fulham SW3, 10 & 6 King’s Road 1881 Caroline Place
There is a choice Queen Caroline was Associated with the area hence the popular choice of name
Fulham came under the Chelsea voting district in those days. Bounderieis in the Fulham Hammersmith Chelsea area have always been very intertwined see our main page article a few months ago
Stephen,
I had family in Novello Street as one of my Great Granddad’s sisters married into the Kybert family who lived down there. I have a lovely photo of the Rose and Crown taken in the 1930s with my Dad’s brother Percy standing outside with two of the Kybert brothers. Shame I can’t post it here.
Hi Mark, my great, great grandparents lived in Novello Street, which was Crown Street, back in 1874. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they supped a few pints in the Rose and Crown! Be nice to see a pic of the place, even better to go up to London and see the place for myself.
ASKING FOR HELP PLEASE.
Our Dad “John Bevan” passed away Friday 2nd Oct and we would like to honor him in a memorable way at his funeral on 22nd.
Our family are so proud of the fact that we were born and bred in Shepherds Bush. We had a family business BEVAN BUILDERS MERCHANTS LTD based in Percy Road and our local was the Crown and Sceptre in the era of Jim and June Arnott.
We desperately need any photographs of the outside of the pub to pay tribute to him. We are looking for a picture taken between 1980-1990. (We do have pictures of the interior and Dad at the Bar!).
He was also a regular at the Acton Vale Club and many other pubs in the area.
Following last orders he could often be found in the Kaiavaki Greek Restaurant in Adelaide Grove. So any pictures of this between 1980-1990 would also be fantastic.
Thank you.
Mandy, Andrew & Dan
Dear Mandy – you might also like to take a look at my book, Wild about Shepherds Bush & Askew Road, as it celebrates much of what you speak – just thought it might be of interest – regards AW
You might also ask on the Facebook group Shepherds Bush Friends and Familys or Finding lost friends from Shepherds Bush also on Facebook
Hi Andrew, I was wondering how I could buy your book. Does it cover, Shepherds Bush from 40,s to 60,s? Thank you.
There is an old photograph of the pub from the 19th c. In Chris’s Amies book Hammersmith And Fulham pubs. It’s on page 17 this is important as the book does not actually have an index therefore making it difficult to track down the pubs by name very easily
Hi there, I was wondering if you are the Beven family belonging to an Iris Beven. She was a best friend of mine in the mid 50,s. We went to school together and were good friends. It was Victoria’s Girls School and we may have attended Westfield Rd Infant school. I rather thought her family were Welsh but seem to remember they had a business. Iris would, like me, be in her 70,s. Could she be part of your family?
My Nans cousins were Bevans but Fulham end
Hi all, I am just enquiring to find a solicitor under the name of eric j woods, I believe he had a office in hammersmith but is no longer trading under this name, does any one know who brought this company or if it changed names. Thanks in advance
Andrew dakin
You should contact Solicitors regulation authority the online public directory of solicitors does not seem to list Mr Woods all the replacement firm so you will either need to see our old hardcopy library or write or email to
SRA
2nd Floor
24 Martin Lane
London
EC4R 0DR
Their contact centre is in Birmingham
mailto:contactcentre@sra.org.uk
Hi, i wonder if anyone can help. In the 1861 census my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather William Thomas Drury was down as living at what looks like Back of New Garden Collage and on his death in 1863 it states
Died Back of Seven Stars Public House. As they both mention back of were both places close together and would his death have been just outside the public house.
Many thanks
John
Hello, doing a bit of family history and came across the address “the cottage eagle terrace” does anyone know where or what that was? Thanks!
Hi there,
My name is Maria Noyen and I’m a reporter with the South West Londoner news website. We are planning on doing a story about Gordon Cottage on Avonmore, specifically about the petition to stop the building being demolished by property developers. Those involved with the petition say it’s a building with a lot of historic value and that it survived bombing in World War II. I’m very interested in getting some background about the building if you are able to provide it or connect me directly to someone who knows more about it.
The petition currently has over 200 signatures and can be found here: change.org/p/lbhf-planning-and-development-control-committee-save-the-avonmore-conservation-area-from-property-developers?redirect=false
Thank you!
Maria
Hello,
My great grandfather was thought to have worked at a green grocer’s shop on Putney high street in the 1930s. In terms of specifics we know that the building was 116 Putney high street and that he was working there in 1935.
If you have any knowledge of the name of the green grocer that was present at the address at this time I would love to know, and if you had any additional information that would be amazing.
We are currently researching the life of my great grandfather, so to know this piece of information would be wonderful.
Thank you so much for your help
My Dad, Henry George Ming was born in Hammersmith in 1906. His parents were William Henry Ming(1869 – 1933) and Maria Elizabeth Stead (1871 – 1939) They lived at 4 Somerset Place, Ship Lane. From what we know, They were bombed out during the war. William Henry had been a farrier for a brewery (Blacks?) Can anyone tell me what school my Dad would have gone to? He told us he got a scholarship to go on to another school but the family was really poor so he could not take it up, and went to work in an office. We know he worked for the National Union of Teachers at the time he was enlisted to join the war effort as a signalsman , in Burma. Is there anywhere we could find out more details of my grandparents? There seem to be few traces of their lives, especially of the Stead branch of the family. Most of Dad’s siblings died young, and during the WW1. (one in Turkey, a sister in Thrapston , who is recorded as having committed suicide, although we arent convinced that is fact, although paper reports report it as such.
Any suggestions of how to find out more would be fabulous. We live in NZ (moved here in 1952)
hopeful thanks !!
Margaret (Ming) Meechang,
As a start have alook at this document. Especially footnote 1 it describes the area of Ship Lane now long gone. Also this map Expand the area at the top of the map behind Hammersmith Bridge and Marlborough Wharf.
Someone else may be able to tell you which school was nearest at the time, hopefully you should get more answers. In due course when the archive reopens an email to archives@lbhf.gov.uk giving as much info as possible may get you more detail.
Good luck in your search.
Thankyou…thats a good start! cheers, Mags
Does the society know of Rudolph von werner a dentist lived and worked in fulham around 1901.
Update on Rudolph Von Werner he is on the 1901 census for 567 Fulham Road he died in fulham October 1907 I have been told he is the brother of Anton Alexander von Werner the court portrait painter of Kaiser Wilhelm ll of Germany. Tim
I have at last found the death certificate for my GG Grandfather John Nolan who died on the 15/02/1915 in the FULHAM INFIRMARY. I would like to know if the INFIRMARY records would show where he was buried.
Ron Lalley
A search of the archive records is likely to be the quickest way to find which cemetery. Margravine and Fulham Old Cemeteries are nearby. Once you know the Cemetery then you can ask the authority which grave.
So a visit to the Archives at Hammersmith Library or an email to archives@lbhf.gov.uk when it opens will get the ball rolling.
Good luck with your search
Hi I lived in Chelsea in the 1950s as a child and remembered going to eel brook common paddling pools. Could you tell me when they went as I see they are no longer there. Thanks kath
I can only remember one padding pool in Eelbrook Common near the tennis courts and the swings. It was emptied in the late 1940s because glass was found in it – possibly on more than one occasion. I remember padding in it around 1945 and told I must never go in it again ( I was not cut fortunately)
My Gt, Gt aunt was registered as living at Raleigh Rd in Oct of 1907 on her wedding certificate. I have read that it changed from Wharton Road to Raleigh Road just prior to this? Let me know if this is incorrect so I can research further.
Hi Lynn Wharton road became Rayleigh road and today it is Lakeside road.
We have had enquiries for these road names before. Please scroll down contact us to read correspondence around thes dates
22 January, 2019 at 11:18 pm
This Column has information about Rayleigh road if you scroll down to 14th Feb 2017
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Lynne Bustard says:
26 January, 2019 at 8:23 pm
Hi,
I’ve also been researching Raleigh Road in Hammersmith.My great, great aunt lived at number 23 in 1907. It seems to have changed names a few times. It was changed from Wharton Road and re-named Rayleigh Road on the 13th of March 1906. It later became Lakeside Road and,I believe, it still exists according to google maps.
Hope this helps! 🙂
Hi, my Father was born in Rayleigh Rd in Hammersmith in 1938, I know the road no longer exists but I was wondering where it used to be? If anyone could let me know that would be great, many thanks
Rayleigh Road is now Lakeside road. In 1896 it was named Wharton road and changed its name in 1915 to Rayleigh road not sure when it became Lakeside road Regards K Warren
I have records of Fuller family members all dying in 1909 in Fulham. Just wondering what social conditions were like at the time, was there a specific outbreak of some disease during this time period? the family lived in College St Putney.
Hi Carolyn if they lived in Putney you could try Wandsworth council archives
good luck with your search.
Len Fuller
Hello, I’m wondering if you can help me at all. My name is Kate Norton, I’m an archive researcher currently working on a new programme and looking for stills or footage (preferably footage) of the Fulham area (also Chelsea, Putney), specifically during the 1980s, of ‘upwardly mobile’ young people at the time. I believe, there are a number of bars that they would frequent, such as Tootsies and Crocodile Tears on the Fulham Road that I would very much like to get some archive of, if anything I think stills of these places are probably going to be my best option. We’re trying to illustrate the lifestyle of young people who lived in the area at the time, coming from upper middle class families and starting out in their first jobs, attending social events etc. I have, of course, access to all the main archive houses but I hope you don’t mind me posting here in case anyone has some hidden gems they would like to share or can point me in the right direction. Thank you in advance for your time and feel free to ask if you have any further queries about our production.
Hi I am an NHS Link Worker in LBH&F work across GP practices. I have an older gentleman I am working with and he likes art and medievil in particular. I am struggling where to connect him with. Preferably inthe local area so he can get to eash as mobilty isnt great and replies on others to help him. Have you are anyone reading this got any suggestions? If you want please email me at a.carmichael2@nhs.net He also likes cricket, rugby, polictics and literiture is nayone has an idea of local groups really appreciate it thanksTony
Anthony great to hear that you doing such terrific work I am sure it is appreciated. I am afraid that all our activities are meeting or visit related which of course is not possible at the moment. If your client has email I can add him to our circulation list for posts on history and other news. However it seems it might be a good idea to contact our borough they have introduced a network called CAN for just such an instance during the restrictions. See this link. Good luck with your task.
My grandfather, William Best, died in Fulham Infirmary on 28 April 1906 as the result of an industrial accident. I believe that he worked at the large food processing plant of J.Lyons and Co, 66 Hammersmith Road. Do you know of an accident in that factory in April (or perhaps March) of that year? I would be grateful for any details at all,
John,
This website might be able to help. Scroll down there Home page when you get there as there are other links to click on –
https://www.kzwp.com/lyons/
Hello Brian.
Your reply regarding the circumstances of my grandfather’s death was very welcome. I would like an email of that newspaper article’s details of the inquest. My address is 55dmjb@gmail.com
Thank you for helping to clarify the details of the accident.
—–John Best
Thank you Mark for the website note. I am hopeful that it will clarify some of the details about my grandfather and will follow it up.
There was an explosion at the factory and 3 died inc William Best
I have small copy of newspaper report at the inquest , a few lines I can email you with.
I would love to know any history about Palmers Stores. It was run by my grandma’s Uncle. Any facts, information or photos would be great! Thank you
Hello. I wondered if you knew anything about the architectural period of 432-436 Fulham Rd. I have downloaded the land registry title of No. 434 and it was registered in 1919, so I think this row of houses are Interwar Neo-Georgian. But it would be great to hear from anybody who knows any more about that style of terraces. Here is a link to google maps – it is the white terraced buildings.
Best wishes, Richard Blanco
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fulham+Rd,+Fulham,+London+SW6+1DU/@51.4802465,-0.1919103,3a,75y,54.05h,91.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srPExLQTdyDVyzZWFQ3HDMQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x48760f86f12d81ff:0xdc723052ad4ddb21!2sFulham+Rd,+Fulham,+London+SW6+1DU!3b1!8m2!3d51.4805287!4d-0.1920425!3m4!1s0x48760f86f12d81ff:0xdc723052ad4ddb21!8m2!3d51.4805287!4d-0.1920425
Hi, My family lived at 434b Fulham Road from 1963 until 1981
Am wondering if there’s any way I could get hold of any records relating to the employees of Gapp’s Stores. My grandfather worked at the branch that was on the corner of Lillie Rd and North End Rd (well that’s how I remember it anyway).
Thanks to anyone who might be able to help.
Good Morning – My Dad was born in Hammersmith in 1940 and I am compiling some information for him for an upcoming Birthday. I was wondering what the population of Hammersmith was in October 1940 and would also like to buy (if possible) an aerial photograph of around this time? Any thoughts appreciated. Many thanks
Population about 28,000 see this link
I know the LBHF archives at Hammersmith Library will have later aerial photos, I haven’t seen any for that period; but they are currently closed. Of course at that time such photography would all have been military and controlled. You can see old OS maps of the period at the National Library of Scotlands website and purchase copies/print.
Good luck with your project.
Thank you so much for your reply. I did wonder if obtaining a photograph would be tricky for that time but will definitely look into it. Many thanks again
Register on this site and you may find what you are looking for: https://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/
Thank you so much for your help. My Dad would love an aerial photograph of Hammersmith so I will definitely register with the site you suggest. Many thanks
Dear Peter trott and Claire Aldridge there is a book has all the aerial photograph’s of london in colour.
London the photographic atlas
published by Harper Collins illustrated.
Isbn 0 00 762298 8.
Published in 2000
Hello, I’m looking for information about a sweet shop in West Kensington possibly Masbro road owned by Parkinson family in 1918
Thank you very much for any help
Jackie
Looking for any information or anyone with a connection to the Nunn family from Chelsea?
Samuel and Ann Nunn lived at 15 Stepple Street Chelsea in 1851 with their 7 children.
Hi all,
Am doing a project for my nan and am looking for old pictures of places between 1940s-1970s. I will list them, if anybody has any photos for me please email them to hollietravers25@icloud.com. Have looked on google but haven’t found much.
Harbledown road
Fulham road
Dovers corner shop
The chimney sweep house down Darlan Road
Lancaster court down Darlan Road
Fulham court
Heckfield place
Kind Edward mansions
The George pub
The regal cinema
Dawes road
Farm lane
Johnnys record shop
Fulham town hall
The swan pub
Hazelbury road
Bryan alley
The star cinema
The hole in the wall grocers
Langford road
The queen pub
Pears Croft road
The old Salvation Army down pearscroft road
Bagleys Lane
Eelbrooke common
Eelbrooke common paddling pool
Eelbrooke common playground
The Whitehorse pub
Parsons Green maternity unit (near the Whitehorse pub)
Recently took her back. To Fulham for a walk down memory lane and took new photos at these places aswell as many more which I have old pictures for to go with the new pictures. Need these for a scrap book I am doing for my nan.
Thank you in advance, need them as soon as possible!
Dear Hollie – just seen your enquiry and thought your Nan might like a copy of my book on Fulham, as it covers a lot of these places – Wild about Fulham. You can get it direct from me http://www.wildlondon.co.uk or Nomad books in the Fulham Road or Amazon or Waterstones online – anyway just thought I’d mention it and good luck with your picture hunt – regards AW
Francis Czucha Old Fulham and Old Sands End has a lot of theses places in photographs. (Check online bookstores for fuller details, or may be on shelves at Nomad
There are tons of old photos on the Facebook group called I grew up in Fulham…
I am trying to research my maternal grandmothers family tree , and believe she (aged 8 or 9) may have been at St Josephs School for Roman Catholic Girls which was situated at 50 Brook Street Hammersmith as she seems to be a “resident” according to the 1911 Census. This institution does not seem to exist any more and I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of the school and where or who I can contact to access any additional information. Thanks
I would love to know too too as my grandmother was there in 1901. All I know is that it was an unhappy time that she never talked about other than to say she lost herself in books. I see from the census that the nuns came from. Europe as well as the UK. Her accent and manners were quite refined and we were under the impression that it was a small convent school. Not the orphanage we now know it to be. If you find out anything about this establishment I would love to know. I believe the building is now an office?
A quick google of this school reveals that it was originally a poor law school for girls run by the Catholic Church by an order of nuns. Established by 1840 (probably following catholic emancipation) it went through various stages during its life. I suggest that you approach the Catholic Archdiocese of Westminster as I know they have extensive archives which hopefully include this school.
In addition there are a number of references to St Joseph’s on other web sites from which you can piece together a story.
Roman Catholic schools and orphanages for boys and girls is quite convoluted in the Brook Green area you should include in your search’s Popes’s Corner by Denis Evinson FHHS 1980. This I believe may now be OP with us. Get it from library, or find online.
I am interested in finding out if there were any bookshops along Fulham Road in the year 1906. I’ve seen books about the history of Fulham but I’m not sure if they would detail which shops existed or have any photographs. If anyone here could advise me which book(s) I could buy or anywhere I could search on the internet I will very grateful. Thank you, Tania.
Leicester University’s online historic directories will probably be the best source of info until the archives open.
Good luck in your search.
I found what I was looking for, thank you very much for your advice.
Hello, I’m researching my Great-Great-Grandfather’s life. He was born at 4 Cambridge Place, Uxbridge Road, Hammersmith in 1857. Has anyone any idea where on the Uxbridge Road that was situated and are there any photos of that show the type of building it was. Thank you.
May I please ask a question about schools. Brothers George ((dob 20/7/1880) and Charles (dob 23/4/1883) HATHWAY were ‘removed’ from St Mark’s Mission School on 20 April 1888. They entered Waterloo Street School on 3 Feb 1891. The admission details for Waterloo Street say they came from ‘St Pauls’ and in the comments it says ‘Fees too high’ These details are on Ancestry. This would suggest they were at St Paul’s School between April 1888 and February 1891. St Paul’s School has records of all pupils and their archivist assures me they were not at St Paul’s School. Can anybody suggest what these comments mean. Was there a school at St Paul’s church, Hammersmith? It is unbelievable that they were at St Paul’s Cathedral Choir School. Any ideas? Many thanks.
Hi it could be that they were from the parish of St. Paul’s.
Thank you for your comment. They lived in Britannia Court which is spitting distance from St Paul’s church and quite a way from Waterloo Street so that may be the answer. But what about the comment about fees? Many thanks.
The comment about the fees were probably made in relation to the family’s financial situation.
Ian. Thank you for jogging me away from my fixation with the famous St Paul’s School. There was another, at St Paul’s church. Fees? A bit more research tells me that although school was compulsory for 5 – 10s from 1880, it wasn’t free till Sept. 1891. They probably moved to a school that charged less. I feel I’ve solved my problem with your help. Thanks
With pleasure. It wasn’t until the 1890 Education Act that free schools were set up by government / local authorities. I believe they were known as Board schools. Ian
Hi
I am a resident of Pankhurst House in Du Cane Rd, and would like to know more about the property.
Date of construction, public intended, facilities and anything else.
Thank you
My great grandmother was among the victims. Is there a list of those that perished💔😪
I am looking for details of a court case in 1986 where a young woman was arrested for masquerading as a policewoman. She was tried at Horseferry Magistrates court in June 1986. The police station involved was Hammersmith and I am trying to find the names of the Police officers involved in the arrest and any involvement that other officers may have had. I have found a few newspaper reports but they don’t give any details. Any help in finding the information would be appreciated. Best Regards, Graham Overton
Suggest you search West London Observer online.
Thanks for the tip but the year I am looking at is not available, the records stop at 1957
My great-grandparents Emily Rose and Alfred Edward Mounter are listed in the 1911 census as being proprietors of a dining room or cafe at 5 Glenthorne Road, Hammersmith. I would be very interested in finding out more information or seeing photos of this establishment if available.
Thank you very much
Kate Taylor, New Zealand
Hello
Wondered if you could help
I have a coat hanger from a laundry/cleaners in Fulham from 1960.
The printed type on the hanger says
” 1960 Cleaners Ltd
17 Barons Court Road
Phone Fulham 1950
My late mother was from the Fulham area and this is possibly why she had it.
Can you tell me a little about the company – does it still exist.
Hi searching my grandparents home. Mills 42 Dimsdale Road SW6 but recon it was war damaged. Cannot even find where Dimsdale Rd was any ideas.?
Thanks Paul Mills
Serffs cottages
Fulham SW6
Dimsdale Road 1881
Serff’s Mews Fulham W14 Star Road 1884
Serff’s Terrace Fulham W14 Star Road 1884
I have found a record of a mortgage granted on a property at 23 Dimsdale Road, West Brompton in 1867. Over the years the area of West Brompton has moved between Chelses, Fulham and Hammersmith Boroughs so I suppose this must be the road you want. The record of this transaction is with the London Metropolitan Archives held in the City of London. email ask.ima@cityoflondon.gov.uk. Phone number 020-7833-9136.They can probably tell you where the road was and it new name if it still exists.
Hi Paul. Dimsdale Road was off Lillie Road and demolished mid 50s with other streets to make way for The Clem Attlee Estate. It was opposite Norman Park Gates. I have a map of the area I could send you via email
Regards Len Fuller
Hello please can you help?
Within my family tree I need information on my 4 x great grandfather Robert Bloomfield. He worked for a greengrocer/coal merchant in North Street Chelsea from the 1851 census.
My belief is that he worked or managed the company however in 1852 he moves to Thames Ditton which is not within a close proximity and had my GT GT GT grandmother.
He dies a month later.
Do your records hold any info on a greengrocer/ coal merchant in North Street Chelsea in 1850s and if so did they file for bankruptcy?
Kind regards John
North Street is now Basil Street parallel to the brompton Road see this map.
You could have a go at searching the street directories at Leicester Uni online resource.
Otherwise it is well outside our area, your best bet would be to contact the RBKC Library’s website and get help from their archive.
Good luck.
Hello! I’ve been searching my genealogy and I have discovered that my Great Grandfather
Henry Smith had a Grocer’s shop at 89 May Street, Fulham from around the1920s to the 1940s. We have looked the street up on Google Maps and the road has been completely regenerated. We were wondering if there may be any photos of the street as it would have been back then, or even a photo of the shop in your archives.
Thank you in advance and kind regards.
There may be photos in the LBHF Archives at Hammersmith Library when they reopen.
This map view may help the whole map can be browsed at the National Library of Scotland site. The archive will have street directories from the period.
If you are not local you could contact the archivist by email see above but it may take some time for a reply having been closed for so long.
Good luck
Is there any way I can look up the owners/renters of shop space on the North End Road during the 60’s?
I ask simply because I am updating my family tree and I recall, as a lad, my Father, Frank Scott and his brother James ‘Fred’ Scott, ran a small engraving business from a basement of one of the shops.
Sadly both gentlemen and spouses are now passed and so there is nobody with first hand knowledge of the location.
I now reside overseas and therefore in-person searches of records is very limited for me, I would appreciate any assistance if at all possible,
Thanks in anticipation,
Anthony D Scott
Do you have any information on P.Ellis a cycle shop in Lille Rd from 1897 until 1959 please.
Does anyone know what happened to the houses on the corner of Munster Road and Aintree Street where the 1960s built (approx) block has been built. Were they bombed? Was the area just redeveloped? I would be really grateful for any information.
Looking at Bombsight (which is not always comnplete) it would appear not to be the case. I have to hand an OS map (50″-1 Mile) published in 1951 which shows the gaps and prefabs in the area after the clearance of damaged buildings and there appear to be 4 terraced houses 254-260 Munster Road on that junction. I expect it was part of the general social housing development of that period. When the archive reopens the minutes of the housing committee will reveal all.
Please can you tell me if any Fulham newspaper for 1897 has been digitalised? My great grandmother Catherine (Kate) Warne was found in a street 21 May 1897 & died later from a fractured skull. An inquest was subsequenty reported in great detail in the local paper, around the 26th May 1897. I would like to read it. Thank you.
The article you are seeking is available online from the British newspaper library and was published on the front page of The West London Observer on the 28th of May 1897 .the early part of the article uses the name Darne due to a typesetting error, further down the actual name of Mr Warne is there. it makes reference to the fractured skull et cetera it’s quite a long article.
Thank you for helping me, and for teling me of the typesetting error. I shall try to seek it out, it looks to be an interesting read.
West London observer
Front page 1st column of The Supplement 28/5/1897
It’s almost the whole column ,a lot of detail , you may be shocked
At what was discovered
I found it on Find my past newspaper section but took a while to find the supplement
Thank you very much for your help, it was kind of you to seek it out. I will try to find it.
Susan if you can’t find it let me know on my own email and I will endeavour to find it again and take photos of the report for you
Hi, I have the name Werne in my tree also a Cathrine AKA Kate Lewsley? lived in Fulham Could these be the same people??
Hello, the maiden name of my Catherine/Kate was Griffin, so it doesn’t seem as though they could be the same person. Good luck with your research.
I am a lover of old wills and as a result have recently become an obsessive researcher of my Chalkhill ancestors from Fulham. I have hit a brick wall and am hoping for some help…I’m interested in Richard Chalkhill son of William Chalkhill. William died in 1583 and his will refers to his 8 children, one of them being Richard and another (my line) William, both under 21. The son William Chalkhill died in 1606 and he refers to his lately deceased brother Richard’s children. I have a theory that Richard Chalkhill’s line carried on in Denham, Buckinghamshire and that they were a family of tanners. Until recently I was under the impression that my 9th ggmother Bethia Chalkhill was the daughter of Richard Chalkhill and Bethia Booth. Bethia (the daughter) married John Andrews of Staines, a tanner and they had at least 7 children including my 8th ggfather John Andrews, a clockmaker, William Andrews, a tallowchandler, and a daughter Bethia Andrews. According to the abstract of a 1684 land transfer record “Bethia Andrews the daughter of John Andrews of Staines, tanner” was left some land by her “grandfather Richard Chalkhill” to be held in trust by a John Page of Harrow. However, after stumbling across a will by Judith Chalkhill of Fulham (1678) I have now located the correct line for my Chalkhills which is the Fulham branch not the Denham branch. Judith refers to her sister “Bethia Andrew wife of John Andrew of Staynes”. Judith’s will also explains how the Andrews children happen to be cousins of a Mary Sibley of Studham, Bedfordshire whose will was written in 1719 (another mystery I’ve solved after 12 month’s research)…Mary Sibley’s parents were John Page of Harrow and Mary Chalkhill, another sister of Judith Chalkhill. This is the same John Page in the land transfer record. I can’t access the original record until the Buckinghamshire Archives are operational again but I’m wondering if the word “grandfather” has been mistranscribed or misinterpreted from “godfather”. I’m wondering if any of your members might have an interest in the Chalkhills of Fulham or their cousins, the Chalkhills of Kingsbury. Quite a prominent family from everything I have read so far. Thanks for reading and best wishes from New Zealand.
I have just done a free search on the website deceasedonline and I found a Sarah who lived in Islington and who died in 1745.
I have also checked the records of burials for all Saints Church Fuller but no one is listed with that name.
Have sent a list of items on Chalkhill in the LBHF archive catalogue direct.
The new assistant priest at Holy Cross RC Church in Fulham has been asked to research the history of the Church since its founding early last century. I have told him about the LBHF archive which will be of help when it reopens but does anybody have any information or can they signpost him somewhere. His name is William Johnston and his email is johnstonewj@gmail.com
The church archives are somewhat lacking!!
Barbara Denny’s book Fulham past says that the Roman Catholic Church of the Holycross in Ashington Road began in 1848 as a mission by Saint Thomases(Rylston road built 1847) to serve a community of Irish gardeners and their families in the vicinity of Parsons Green .
Feret Fulham old and new c.1900 Unusually has very little to say about the church.
The present building was built in 1925 by Scott and Williamson and is of red brick with a belt turret and a plain interior
Thanks for the information. I fear that BD has got her dates wrong or may have thought that the 1848 ‘mission’ was a new building. I know that Holy Cross parish with a temporary church was not established until early in the 20th century (hence the non mention in Fulham Old and New) because my Great-grandfather donated the land for the church to be built on. Another wealthy parishioner paid for the present church to be built in the 1920’s.
The ‘Mission’ was I think based in St Dionis Road (then called Rectory Road) where many of the Irish Catholics lived including another branch of my family.
I will pass on your note to Fr Johnstone. Thanks again.
thanks for this. I mentioned the book and the source as I have heard before that BD book is not entirely accurate in certain bits , so was wary.
Also came across this, and ofcourse the British newspaper library has records of weddings reported in the FC and other local newspapers.
London Monitor And New Era Archives, Mar 31, 1905, p. 12
newspaperarchive.com › … › 1905 › March 31
At the service on Sunday evening at Holy Cross Church, Ashington Road, Father Herbert, O.S.M., preached on “The Miasion, of the Redeemer
Very helpful. I have forwarded your email to Fr Johnstone. It seems he is really interested in the names of previous parish Priests as their records are sketchy or non existent. The article mentions the name of the priest and given it was 1905 I think the parish was then very new.
Hello! I am an author, writing a book on Sergeant Issy Smith, VC, which I expect to publish next year. I am trying to find details of a relative, his sister-in-law Hilda Isbitsky, who appears on the 1901 census as living at the Jewish Institute, Charcroft House, Roseford Lerr (?) in Hammersmith. Can you tell me anything about these premises? She appears to have been a wash laundry maid, aged 20, at the time. I can be contacted via lamkconsulting@gmail.com
Kind regards
Lian Knight
There are some entries on this site that may help unfortunately they do not have links to detailed info. See:
Jewish Rescue Home Hostel 1 Roseford Terrace (Terr), Shepherds Bush W12, and further down
Jewish Rescue Home, Charcroft House, Roseford Gardens
With the maps I have to hand in lockdown I cannot be certain but it looks like a block of social housing
(Roseford Court) was built on the site.
Hopefully one of our readers will have more info.
Good luck.
Thankyou. That’s really helpful
Hi, I did ask about a week ago about the Civic, Fulham Palace Road, thanks for the answer. I was wondering what they produce during the 2and WW, 1939 to 1945, thanks.
Haven’t been able to find anything specific, I did check the War years in the local newspapers using the British newspaper library index but there was nothing too much to know except people pilfering the normal stock and getting caught so they may have just only been producing special things for sending out to the troops.When archives reopens they may have something further to add but at the moment it’s closed and I understand that they have well over 70 queries to deal with at this present time after lockdown and produce material for the searches in due course
Thanks very much for your help
Hello
I am trying to find out who the architect was for Alder Lodge, 73 Stevenage Road. I believe the building dates from 1974. It’s that group of apartments in heavy dark brick with a kind of serpentine form, directly north of Craven Cottage stadium, set in gardens, and on the site of the former Eternit factory. I realise the information should be in the LBHF planning applications database, but something this old will be on Microfilm and probably not easy to access at the moment with Covid-19 restrictions. It’s also likely to be in an architectural Journal for that year – RIBA probably has it, but again, I can’t get to it right now. I’ve drawn a blank on every online source I’ve tried, and also Pevsner, etc.
Does anyone know?
many thanks
Cynthia Poole
They have a Management Company – Riverside Gardens Amenity you can see their officers on any companies house listing: just google. They seem to have a facebook page so maybe just make contact.
Good luck with your quest. Keep checking one of our readers may have the answer for you.
Many thanks for this. Will follow up. Someone has suggested Ted Hollamby, LCC architect, d.1999. Born in Hammersmith, did a number of post war housing schemes, later involved in restoring William Morris’ Red House. But haven’t found a mention of Riverside Gardens as being by him, yet!
River Gardens housing Architects: Ted Levy Benjamin & Partners
Turns out there is an entry in Pevsner after all, 2002 edition. Also in architectural magazine A&U no. 3 (102), 1979 Mar, p. 41-50.
regards
CP
My Grandfather, Cyril Charles Francis Haynes, died 12.4. 1932 in Fulham Hospital. As a member of the Hammersmith, Chelsea & Norfolk Lodge RAOB his funeral, 18.4.1932, was conducted with RAOB honours at St Albans Church, as in the funeral notice in the West London Observer 22.4. 1932. Apparently this branch of the RAOB met in the Norfolk Arms PH in North End Road. The RAOB have no information available on this Lodge. Is it possible that you might have some records ?
Thank you for any help you may be able to offer.
Lucille Robinson.
I am looking for any information about Turners Stores on the Hight St Harlesden certainly in 1901. Alexander Turner owned it. He is my great great uncle. I would be very grateful for any help. Lisa
This is well outside our patch do try the archives at Brent. You should also try Willesden Local History Society which covers that area there is contact information on their website.
Hi FHHS, Can you tell me if there was a St Dunstans Nursery on St Dunstans Road around 1945-1950. I have found a ditty my dad wrote & dedicated to the nursery & its staff. I believe my sisters went there before the family moved out to the wilds of Watford. My dad was born at 36 Sterndale Road, Hammersmith, married my Mum at Oaklands Chapel Uxbridge Road when he lived at 21 Orminston Grove Shepherds Bush. My Great Grandfather moved to Hammersmith from Bedfordshire & was living at 50 Ceylon Road in the 1871 Census & my Grandfather lived in Hammersmith all his life.
ALSO – When I was researching my family tree in 2004 I found a newspaper article reporting the death of my Great Grandfather Andrew John Birch. He was a dustman & died while on the rounds in Hammersmith on 2 June 1881 at the age of 23. I would love to find that article again but no amount of searching online has given any results.
I hope someone might have information about either of these subjects. Thank you.
Hallo
My ancestor was the licensee of The Three Kings Tavern North End Road Fulham in 1866. I am looking for any photos of this hotel taken in the 19th century or early 20th century?
Yours sincerely
Sue Hamilton
Hammersmith and Fulham Pubs in the Images of London series ISBN 9780752432533 has 2 old pictures of the pub. One was before the A4 was put through. Apparently it was rebuilt in 1904. Presumably you are looking for the former building.
So I expect your best hope of a picture is the LBHF Archive at Hammersmith Library when it opens again. You could contact the archivist at archives@lbhf.gov.uk if you are not local but wait until the website says that it is open.
Dear Fulham & Hammersmith Historical Society I am researching my ancestry and my great grandparents lived at 55 Latimer Road, Hammersmith in July 1898 and then at Blechynden Street in October of the same year. I would like to find out what type of accommodation they lived in as the area was very poor. Their youngest child died at the Latimer Road address aged 6 weeks also in 1898 and I wonder where she is likely to have been buried. Any pointers would be much appreciated. Regards Ann Jordan
Hi Nicola,
Thanks for your reply. Yeah, I’m sure our ancestors passed each other in the street frequently! Best of luck with your family searches.😇
Hi I was wondering if there is anyway to find out what type of property 5 Langford road Fulham was in 1885 a relative died there it was not his home was it a pub ? as he worked in one a Sarah chalk registered his death this was not his wife regards sue banks
Good morning
I’m looking into a company that was running in 1928 called Messrs A J Carpenter- catering contractors- residing in White City W12.
Can you help?
Kind regards
Linda Saunders
There is a teapot with their name on for sale on eBay at the moment
5 Langford Road was just an ordinary terrace house .a few numbers in Langford road still remain today after Gilsted Road, the rest I believe may have been destroyed during the war as it is fairly close to the gas holders in Bagley‘s Lane in fact Langford Road connected with Bagley‘s Lane subsequently after the war when famous William Parnell house was pulled down in 1961.the area became a park the 5 Langford house was in occupation right up until 1939.
See previous replies and comments regarding the pineapple block history just after the First World War
My Mum and Aunt mentioned, when they were alive, but did not say much, only that they worked at the Civic in Fulham Palace Road, during the war, on war work. Was this correct? as all I can find out that, they made Briers pipes there. Thanks.
Pipe company was at 79 to 83 Fulham Palace Road you can find some information about them at pipearchiv.co.uk
To whet your appetite I copy here an extract of an interesting document that the have puY on web.
The Civic Company Ltd of Londont was formed in 1921 out of the Imperial Tobacco Company (Fancy Goods Department) Ltd which was located in Fulham Palace Road Hammersmith. The Imperial Company itself was formed in 1901 in response to an aggressive take over raid in Britain by American Tobacco and involved the pooling of tobacco retail outlets including closely related items such as briar pipes. In 1902 Imperial purchased the Salmon & Gluckstein retail empire, which included a section that finished briar pipes, originally made in France, for sale in Britain. It is this unit that became the fancy goods department within Imperial and, ultimately in 1921, the Civic Company. In 1928 Civic formed a key element in the merger with other producers and retailers that formed Cadogan Investments which still trades today.
Salmon And Gluckstein was mentioned in an earlier email as thowning a shop located next door to
a restaurant and of course this company is actually J. Lyons in later years the well-known Hammersmith company and food empire
Thank you for the information about the Civic, Fulham Palace Road, very interesting, I learnt something. But have you any idea what was manufactured there between 1939 and 1945 thank you
I worked in a bank in Hammersmith in the middle to late 80’s and we used a tracing agent to help trace people. There are several there now but does anyone remember the name of the one that used to be the only one in Hammersmith please? Thanks
Dear Mr McThredder,
I was interested to see your post about Dr Sandbrook Falkner, via the Ancestry website. He was the grandfather of Dr John David Falkner (my mother’s first cousin). John was a senior partner in the same practice (Tudor Gate Surgery) as me in Abergavenny, where we both still live. He says he would be delighted to receive these documents, and would reimburse the postage. If you are agreeable, you may send them to him at 45 Chapel Road, Abergavenny NP7 7DN.
I can send you a link to our family tree on Ancestry if you like.
KInd regards,
Dr Peter Davies
43 St Helens Rd
Abergavenny
NP7 5YA
Tel 01873 858762
daviespll@hotmail.com
Does anyone know of or can can confirm if there was ever a Taxi Cab Shelter built in the early 1900s at Hammersmith Broadway? I found a document announcing the establishing of a fund to do just this in the London Metropolitan Archive but can find no record if it was successful and built at all?
Green cab shelters have a fascinating history. There are now only some dozen or so left but despite costing £25,000 each to restore in recent times there are now grade 2 listed buildings .the cabbieblog.com has a history of them including a map where they all werebut there was not what it appears in Hammersmith the only one near fulham was in Putney and this at the top of the High Street when it went was changed into a cab rank for about three taxis in the middle of the road.they are not solely the province of the cabdriver and one can order some food there as well.
Hi, I’m looking for a marriage/engagement announcement in the Fulham chronicle for Thomas Blagrove and a lady called Mary (not sure of surname as of yet) could anybody help me with finding this? It’s for my grandmother. Thank you
Searching the FC on microfiche is a ‘pin in a haystack ‘ job. You may not get a volunteer!
If you have full name and likely dates and any addresses it maybe that the archivist could allocate someone to have a quick look when they open again. See the link above for teh Archivist’s address or teh LBHF website.
Hollie,
I assumed the marriage was in Fulham/Hammersmith and the best I could find was a marriage between Thomas E Blagrove and Mary L Potter in Fulham in 1947. I couldn’t find anything in the Fulham Chronicle about it.
Hi Mark,
Thank you ever so much. I sent it over to my nan and she Asked me to ask you if you used to live in Lancaster Court? Her aunt Mary and uncle Ed Dunning would have lived above at number 16. I think the name may have rung a bell for her.
Thank you again
Hi, I also wondered if you or anybody else has any old pictures (1950s) of the George pub in fulham, Langford road primary school (building), Parnell house & Darlan Road? I am putting together a photo book for my nan to go with photos we have taken on a day out around fulham of all her old hangouts. Any help would be much appreciated. Any images, please send to my email hollietravers25@icloud.com
Thank you in advance
Hello again, Hollie. Yes, I and my family used to live at number 12 Lancaster Court, as you say, directly under the Dunning family. I’m still in contact with their daughter, Sandra, from time to time. Sadly, Sandra recently lost her husband Paul to the coronavirus disease. What was your Nan’s full name? I do remember a Blagrove family in Darlan Road.
I’m afraid I don’t immediately have any of the photos that you’re looking for but if you use Facebook, there’s a group on there that I belong to called I Grew Up In Fulham. Search for it and If you join the group there are plenty of photos and memories that I’m sure your Nan would enjoy.
If I can find any photos I’ll send them direct to your Email address.
Mark
Hi mark. Will pass this on to my nan. Yep, the Blagroves were her family & yes they used to live on Darlan Road. Her name was Susan Blagrove (now Susan Conn) she had an older sister called Christine Blagrove, her father was Thomas Blagrove (Tom, enjoyed drinking in the George) & her mother was Mary Blagrove however she passed away when my nan was very young but she continued living with her father along with her sister as he did not want to send them to an orphanage (as was usually the case in these such circumstances). I will have a look at that Facebook group & yes if you do find any pictures please email to me! You have been a huge help!
Hollie, please say hello to Sue for me. I remember her well. She may not remember me but I did go into her house in Darlan Road a couple of times as I used to be in a crowd that included Reg Butler, Malcolm Dover (whose Dad, Sid, ran the corner shop at the top of Darlan Road on the corner with Fulham Road), Tony Carter, Dave Kean and Kenny King. Doug Humphreys and Michael Old are other names she might remember. I also went to Munster Road School and I think Sue did too. I went on to do a disco in the 70s, for about 10 years, in the Wheatsheaf pub next to Sid Dover’s on the Fulham Road but I think Sue had moved on by then.
I’ll keep looking for those photos!
Mark
I am doing a Family History for a friend and have found her grandmother was a “pupil” at Ackmar Road School. The only info I can find is about a deaf School on Ackmar Road. Was there another one? Her name was Ethel Blanche Durant and was unofficially adopted by a Charles Okey (Oakey). She was signed out by his wife Mrs Okey on 14. 1. 1898. I would appreciate any help you can give. Thank you.
Barbara Bullivant
b.bullivant1@outlook.com
These comments from march 2019 give some of the background. I suspect there will be more in the archive when it opens again.
In reply to Mrs.Jill Morris.
Ackmar Road School was where, temporarily, children taken into care, orphans, went and they lived around the corner at 9 Parsons Green. If you are interested I have a photo of number 9, now part of Lady Margaret’s School, the Old School House, the cornerstone of the new Ackmar Road School where your relative went. I have had success in tracing relatives in the Board of Guardians records both in the London Archives and on Ancestry. It is amazing how well they documented children even down to when they reached 14 and were found employment, how much they were paid per week. Personally I know of the places Roman Catholic children were sent, a convent in Brook Green for girls, two orphanages in Heston, Middx. For boys, St. Mary’s and St. Vincent’s.
2019/03/08 at 3:49 am
Select comment Susan Jeffrey
In reply to Kerry.
Ackmar Road School was in Parsons Green, Fulham. It was the school of choice for the Board of Guardians Receiving Home just around corner. It was later a school for deaf but not sure of dates. I have a photo of a stone carving rescued from the demolition dating to when the school was expanded. Would be happy to send. Also the old school, now a private home.
If your relative was R.C. Then from the Receiving Home boys went to St Mary’s or St. Vincent’s in the Hendon Middlesex area. You might find your relative in the Census of 1911 for those orphanages. Not always orphans, just poor.
An alternative for boys was the Training Ship Exeter moored out in Grays, Essex. It equipped boys for a life in the merchant navy.
Effie Road perhaps?
Hope this helps.
Susan Jeffrey
HI yes the school in Ackmar Road was a deaf school. So your relative was probably deaf. There is a lot of information about Ackmar School. Regards
I remember Ackmar Road school well. I lived off of Wandsworth Bridge Road between 1945 and roughly 1973. That school may well have been used by deaf children but I’m sure there was a spell when that wasn’t the case when I lived in Fulham. It had a reputation for being used for children who had misbehaved to such an extent they were excluded from mainstream schooling.
A history of a London school for the deaf: Ackmar Road, 1898-1983
Author: Geoffrey J Eagling; British Deaf History Society
Publisher: Feltham British Deaf History Society Publications ©1998.
This book covers the deaf schools history,Which I think was a separate smaller building on the site.
But there was the standard school design building also that had quite a bad reputation this when it closed became
St. Marks lower school when both schools eventualy closed completely it was changed into a council housing development this was most important at the time as Hammersmith & Fulham Council had a hung council and the old Eel brook common ward was very marginal. (No overall control from 1978-1986)There was an unusual covenant in the lease which meant that the school had to remain the school unless it was no longer required as an educational establishment but only if a direct descendent of Queen Victoria was no longer living
Ackmar Road School has always been something of a mystery to me. I believe my Dad was a pupil there at some time. He wasn’t deaf and was born in 1919 so I imagine he was there sometime in the 1920s.
Ackmar Road School opened 1884 and in 1951 became Parson’s Green Secondary School for Boys and Ackmar Primary School. A class for partially deaf children was established at the school in 1898.
My 3xgreat grandparents were teachers at st Mary’s school in the middle of the 19th century, Has anyone got any photos info about the school or them. Thomas Vennimore and Susannah Sarah Beeston Vennimore.
Dear Rebecca – I published a modern take on Fulham 5 years ago (Wild about Fulham) but I’m pretty sure that my historian could help you. She was born in Fulham although she now lives in Shepherds Bush – if you’d like to get in touch I can pass on your details plus send you a copy of our book – regards AW
Dear Andrew
Thanks so much for your reply and the very kind offer both of help and of your book! It would be great to be able to reach out to your historian contact – I will pop my details into the website linked to your account.
Look forward to hearing from you and thanks very much again for your help. Best wishes, Rebecca
You are beginning to get some useful responses. Some others may popup but thought it might be worth wheting your appetite for the archive and a few other sources.
LBHF Archive have the Fulham Chronicle and West London Observer and some minor titles on microfiche but it is a bit of a ‘b’ to search through unless you have key dates. You could start, if you have not already, with a look at the British Newspaper Archive online which now has West London Observer though I cannot remember which dates. There are also parish and school magazines that may have snippets. You can search the archive catalogue online. In addition there will be folders for most streets in the area containing photos and press cuttings so that is worth a browse when it opens. Bombsight Map online does show much in the way of damage in Sands End but this is not always complete so you could check the LCC Atlas of Bomb Damage this may yield stories and details will be in the papers. The London Metropolitan Archive can also be searched online as I am sure you are aware.
Good luck.
Dear Rebecca – it might just be easier to email me at aw@unity-publishing.co.uk – all the best AW
hi there,
My dad worked in a restaurant on fulham road in1963 called the Eyebrow. I am trying to find a photo of the front from back then… and or maybe an address? Anybody able to help please? thanks thanks. Mike
mikejosephci@gmail.com
Stil to track down address, but if check the companies house website you will find there is the eyebrow restaurant limited given as a dormant company which still produces accounts on a yearly basis albeit very small there seems to be records back at least to 1986
Hello,
I wondered whether you might be able to help. I am trying to locate a teacher or his family, who may already have died, called Tom Saunders. He was my mentor at St Mark’s CE school, which closed a long time ago.
Thank you,
Andy.
Hi everyone, I’m a history student at Cambridge University, about to start research for my master’s thesis. As you may know, Fulham (to be more specific, East Fulham) was of particular interest to the social science research organisation Mass-Observation at the 1945 British general election – I’m hoping to use this archival material (as well as the constituency papers of incumbent MP Michael Stewart) to examine political culture at 1945.
I would really love to know if the Fulham & Hammersmith Historical Society have any recommendations for further primary or secondary sources relating to the above, for instance newspaper clippings or letters from residents concerning the election – your publications page includes Leslie Hasker’s ‘Fulham in the Second World War’ which I will definitely try and get hold of. It would also be great to know if there are any oral histories/autobiographies or memoirs written by Fulham residents which include accounts of 1945? I’m hoping to look at how the election was remembered and looked back on by Fulham residents themselves.
Thanks ever so much for your help on this! Once the local LBHF archives are open again I’ll be sure to look there as well.
Best wishes,
Rebecca Goldsmith
Dear Rebecca, Thank you for making contact. Your planned research examining political culture in 1945, specifically in East Fulham, sounds interesting. I’m sorry I have not studied that period or Mass-Observation (being more comfortable looking back at the 18th century!).
Our FHHS publication (1984, 2nd impression 2005): Leslie Hasker’s ‘Fulham in the Second World War’ should, indeed, give you helpful background inforamtion. Also, I see that an earlier book of 1970 published by The Fuham History Society ‘A History of Fulham to 1965’ has an extensive Bibliography of Sources on pp 291-297. But, when skimming the final chapter on ‘Fulham in the Twentieth Century’ I did not find a reference to the Mass-Observation. However, there are a couple of intriguing socio-economic graphs.
Best of luck with your Master’s thesis. (I enjoyed working on mine – for London University 20 years ago!).
Regards
Jane Bowden-Dan
FHHS Committee
Dear Jane,
Thanks very much for your speedy reply and recommendation! I will certainly get hold of ‘A History of Fulham to 1965’ as well as Leslie Hasker’s history of Fulham in the Second World War – both sound really helpful; I imagine this will prove an easier task once libraries have reopened, but I’ve jotted down the details of both books and will do my best!
Happy to shed a bit more light on Mass-Observation and its relation to East Fulham in the hope that this proves useful or interesting. M-O was founded in 1937 and was influenced by movements like surrealism in its early years, so as well as commissioning amateur ‘observers’ to note down details about the 1945 election campaign, Mass-Observation also asked interested locals to note down wall chalkings/drawings and words written inside phone booths around Fulham in the pre-war years. As you can imagine, the M-O records are a wonderful, mixed bag overall, but I’m hopeful that the 1945 research will prove really insightful about political culture at that election.
Thanks very much again for your help on this,
Best wishes,
Rebecca
Hi Rebecca, I can’t help you with facts about Fulham in 1945 or the mass observation project but I can add some anecdotal thoughts which you may consider relevant.
In the late 19th century the Fulham parliamentary seat was held by the Conservatives while the Liberals held a majority on the Vestry and then from 1900 the Council. In 1906 something odd took place. First there was a general Election which saw the Liberals sweep the Conservatives from office with a landslide victory and gain Fulham with a small majority of 600. Later that same year the Council elections saw a reversal of fortunes with the Conservatives gaining a majority for the first time.In that year my Great grandfather became the first Conservative Mayor of Fulham.
From then on through most of the next 30 years Fulham returned first one and then two Conservative MPs until the two by-elections of the 1930’s which saw two gains by Labour. West Fulham was retained by the charismatic Edith Somerskill until the two constituencies were amalgamated in 1955 while the Conservatives re-took Fulham East at the GE in 1935 holding it until 1945.
The list of candidates for both seats in that period is most interesting with many names living on in the names of buildings. For example Banfield House at the corner of Fulham Road and Fulham park Road is named after John Banfield a prominent Labour Councillor who contested two General Elections for Labour in the 1930s.
Clement Attlee was a frequent visitor to Fulham and friends with some of the long serving local Labour activists. Michael Stewart once told me that he recalled sometimes buying Fish and Chips from a shop in the Fulham Palace Road late at night during the 1945/1950 parliament and eating the food sitting on a garden front wall with Attlee. Why Attlee had an attachment to Fulham I do not know.
Labour regarded Fulham as a talisman for their cause and put a great deal of effort into securing the seat for the up and coming Michael Stewart. On the other hand the loss of the seat in 1945 and the worse performances at the next six elections seriously undermined the morale of the Conservatives. My whole family were members of the Conservative Party and activists and never really came to terms with the fact that they were being regularly beaten.
Things did not start to change until the Hammersmith and Fulham GLC election of 1967 and the Council election of 1968. I especially remember the latter as I was a trainee Election Agent responsible for running the campaign in Fulham under management of the official Agent. Previously we held only one of 19 Fulham seats and afterwards held 18 out of 19. My mother was crying for joy the next morning and eleven years later she was even happier when following the retirement of Michael Stewart who was a very good and popular MP the Conservatives captured Fulham in 1979.
By the mid 1960’s Fulham was changing through what my Labour friends described as ‘gentrification’. The Labour run Council decided to stop Tory voters ‘leaking’ down the Kings Road from Chelsea by creating a huge Council Estate in the Moore Park area. Local people were to be decanted as ‘slum clearance’ took place. The 1968 election was fought over this issue and the Conservatives stopped the process however one block was already under development and can be seen just east of Fulham Town Hall.
My point in all this rambling nonsense is to impress on you how important both political parties used to regard Fulham. In the early years of the century it was turning from countryside to suburbia and by the 1940s it was thoroughly urban not to say industrial with its neighbour in Wandsworth. There was little in common between Hurlingam Court near Putney Bridge and Fulham Court near Fulham Broadway and the two societies lived side by side not really knowing each other.
As you will know the main deciding factor in the 1945 vote was probably the ‘service vote’ for while those at home voted along traditional family lines and regarded Churchill with some affection the troops around the world had very little affection for ‘Winnie’ and instead wanted a new way of running things. Opinion polls were in their infancy but most showed the Conservatives heading for a narrow victory until the postal votes from overseas changed all that. I am sure Fulham was a microcosm of this situation.
I have been out canvassing for every election since 1964 and the biggest change I have noted is that most people in the 60’s voted the same way as their parents and wives the same way as their husbands. This has largely broken down with people drawing their political affiliation from either their economic situation or more commonly their emotive attachment to a particular leader. When a leader stands out there is a feeling of tolerance for his or her weaknesses but if leadership is hard to detect voters become more promiscuous and as a group less decisive.
I hope all this is interesting if not illuminating!
Dear Basil,
A huge thank you for your insightful comments about Fulham’s political life. As a relative outsider, trying to learn as much as I can about Fulham’s political past, this is hugely useful and I’m very grateful for your insider’s knowledge! From what I’ve found so far, Fulham absolutely seems to have been held in very high regard by both parties as a significant political site – it’s great to know this continued well after 1945. I think Mass-Observation’s research into the 1945 election at East Fulham also reflects the seat’s long-standing importance, as I’ve found quite a few references to the ‘peace’ 1933 by-election in the materials which suggests Fulham was recognised as an important indicator of popular political opinion by then.
It’s fantastic to hear about your personal and family connections to political life in Fulham – one of the aims of my research is to incorporate reflections on the 1945 East Fulham result both at the time and later across the twentieth century: if you know of any relatives or other local political activists who
wrote memoirs or accounts of Fulham’s twentieth-century political past, including their attitude towards or involvement with the election at 1945, please do let me know as I’d really love to incorporate them.
In terms of the service vote, I’m definitely hoping to find out what local contemporaries expected the result to be, and whether they were aware of quite how significant this alternative factor was – as you say, I imagine voter motivations and behaviour has changed quite a bit so it should prove really fascinating!
Thanks so much again for your insights – they are really appreciated.
Best wishes,
Rebecca
Dear Basil,
A huge thank you for your insightful comments about Fulham’s political life. As a relative outsider, trying to learn as much as I can about Fulham’s political past, this is hugely useful and I’m very grateful for your insider’s knowledge! From what I’ve found so far, Fulham absolutely seems to have been held in very high regard by both parties as a significant political site – it’s great to know this continued well after 1945. I think Mass-Observation’s research into the 1945 election at East Fulham also reflects the seat’s long-standing importance, as I’ve found quite a few references to the ‘peace’ 1933 by-election in the materials which suggests Fulham was recognised as an important indicator of popular political opinion by then.
It’s fantastic to hear about your personal and family connections to political life in Fulham – one of the aims of my research is to incorporate reflections on the 1945 East Fulham result both at the time and later across the twentieth century: if you know of any relatives or other local political figures who wrote memoirs or accounts of Fulham’s political past, including their attitude towards or involvement with the election at 1945, please do let me know as I’d love to incorporate them.
In terms of the service vote, I’m definitely hoping to find out what local contemporaries expected the result to be, and whether they were aware of quite how significant this alternative factor was – as you say, I imagine voter motivations and behaviour has changed quite a bit so it should prove really fascinating!
Thanks so much again for your insights – they are really appreciated.
Best wishes,
Rebecca
Hi again Rebecca, Sadly I have nothing from my family beyond memories. My brother has all the contents of the family home so i will ask him to have a search…but don’t hold your breath he is not a well person and things take time.
Although the history books make much of the 1933 by-election in east Fulham its worth noting that the seat went back to the Conservatives in 1935. My family did moan about the West Fulham by-election at which Edith Summerskill was elected and went on to hold the seat at several elections. She toured Fulham in a caravan which my family thought was a cheap trick!.
On bombing my family home was hit by an incendiary bomb in 194041. the house (8 Fulham park gardens) was empty at the time because the family had evacuated to Oxford. The house was on fire but a couple of off duty soldiers walked past after the pub closed, saw the flames and broke into the house. With help from others they put out the fire with the eventual assistance of the fire brigade.
I think that exhausts my info for you!
Regards
Basil
Hi Basil,
Absolutely understand about family records – these facts and memories are already terrific and will prove hugely helpful, thank you! It’s really very kind of you to take the time to share them.
Wishing you all the best,
Rebecca
Suggest you have a look at the Fabian Society pamphlet series of very old established socialist organisation Michael Stewart published a few pamphlets with them and these can be accessed online for the LSE website time was when hammersmith libraries would have had a file of all of these and the Conservative political party leaflets As well in their special collection.They had great typography and printing style
Sounds like a great idea – thank you for the tip!
Hi everyone. I wonder if anyone has an old photo of Humbolt Road, Fulham please? I am researching the Streets family who lived at No 70 in 1891. The head of the family Thomas was a rail guard according to the census. Many kind thanks for your time. Theresa
If none of our contributors come up with a pic do try the LBHF archives in Hammersmith Library when they reopen. They have folders on each street and if lucky there will be old ones and other info in there.
Hi there,
Tried my old trick with these type of requests and did a search on eBay.Sure enough there is one there for Humbolt Road its expensive at £20 but he give you an idea of the type of housing and what street looks like without any motorcars
Hello,does anyone know anything about the buildings or family.
My Gt Gt Gt Grandfather William Drury lived behind The Seven Stars Public House in 1861 and died there in 1863.
When his son my Gt Gt Grandfather Thomas Drury got married he moved to Number 12 Onslow Dwellings in the 1871 Census, in the 1881 Census they had moved to 67 Onslow Dwellings where they were still living in the 1911 Census. Thomas’s son also called William had moved into 65 Onslow Dwelling in the 1891 Census when he married.
Was the building behind The Seven Stars close to Onslow Dwellings
and because they moved from number 12 to number 67 Onslow Dwellings would this be because they were bigger rooms
regards
John Drury
Good afternoon
I have a very difficult scenario, I am trying to track down my father who owned a car mechanics garage on Fulham Road around number 555 Fulham Road SW6. But back in 1979 it was mainly open land and they just had a caravan and workshop and opposite the garage was a pub called the Wheatsheaf which is now closed down. Please can you advise me on who or where I would go to try and find out who owned or rented the land back then as then I may be able to find out the name of his company and obtain his full name as I currently only have his first name and his business partners first name.
Thank you Leona
Bit of a conundrum as the Wheatsheaf on Fulham Road is now a Sainsbury’s local and flats is on the corner of Darlan Road opposite the fire Station which is 685 Fulham Road. Apart from their yard all the frontage of Fulham Road has been built up for many years. 555 Fulham Road appears to be near Fulham Broadway, again built up. Perhaps one of our regular contributors can help.
The other approach is to try a search of the partners name using something like 192 or one of the dedicated business look ups that search Companies house for bankruptcy and other history. when the Archive opens again there may be business directories that could help.
Good luck.
Hi 555 is in the King’s Rd opposite an Italian restaurant which was the Wheatsheaf.
Leona, I could be wrong but this doesn’t sound like Fulham Road to me. Could it possibly be Fulham Palace Road? I lived close to the Fire Station from 1951 to 1981 and it just doesn’t ring a bell with me.
I used to do discos in the Wheatsheaf opposite the Fire Station but there was also a Wheatsheaf at the Fulham end of Kings Road, just around the bend from New Kings Road . It’s also closed now but was at number 562
To Basil Larkins
How wonderful to pass on first hand memories of when Fulham had farmland! interesting about the smallpox outbreak too … I have just read some of the related press reports with locals fearful about air transmission from when the fever hospital was built – it has echoes of our current lockdown!!
Ancill Road was middling according to Booth’s poverty map… the family I’m looking at lived in various houses in Ancill road over the years – and had a house to themselves but not well enough off to have a servant. A lot of their relatives also lived in the street. I don’t think my pageboy lad was living in as he is listed with the family on census night- although they might have just included him in error…
It’s an interesting story that I am uncovering – this started off because my brother in law does a lot of work for the poppy appeal and he was given a WW1 poster awarded to a Frank Kingsbury who was ‘some sort of relative’ but no one any longer knew who he was… so I have been tracking him down. it turns out the mother of the family died and his father who was an omnibus driver / groom was left with eight children – then the dad was involved in a tragic accident when the horses pulling the horse drawn bus bolted for home as he approached their yard in Laundry Road and before he could duck he hit his head on the stone archway to the yard and was killed. The younger kids all ended up in institutions – four boys in the West London poor school and one girl sent to the orphanage for fatherless girls in Brixton. I guess the lads were all trained for service or the army and the poor school tried to place them in jobs…. One was sent to the royal naval music school in Portsmouth but returned because he failed an eyesight test… one was sent to the doorstep / houseboy brigade in Brixton…. I wonder if there was an institution where the other two were sent for army training? That’s my next bit of research. I got some wonderful help with his military career from his regimental museum – he was already joined up before the war – then his WW1 career was cut short when he became a PoW in first battle of Arras and he was sick or disabled on discharge and died soon after the war. I just want to fill in the jigsaw with how he joined the army now. I’m writing up his story as I don’t want him to get forgotten again!
Very best
Lesley
If you are interested in the smallpox outbreak there is a very detailed report by the local Health Authority which is where I found the reference to ‘your road’. Its almost 100 pages long and easily found on google although I don’t recall exactly what I typed in to find it!
Any news on Queens Manor Primary School in 1983-1985 Chess Team or any schools in West London LPSCA Chess League
Hello, I wonder if anyone could shed any light on Charles Thomas Daniels and his family and descendants and/or information about the property they lived: 75 Olaf Street Hammersmith
When Charles Thomas Daniels was born on 18 July 1900, his father, Charles, was 29 and his mother, Fanny, was 21. He married Ada Florence Grant on 10 July 1920. They had three children during their marriage. He died on 19 November 1940 in Harrow, Middlesex, at the age of 40.
I wonder how many households in Fulham / near Ancill Road would have had page boys? Lx
Lesley, can’t speak to the issue of page boys in particular but in the 1880’s Fulham was ‘coming up in the world’. There was a good deal of building going on which attracted the new middle class to the area. My Grandmother remembers living near to what is now Stamford Bridge and recalled that at the back of their house were wheat fields.
By the 1890s there were a number of three storey house built in Fulham and these often accommodated ‘servants’ on the top floor. My own family rose spectacularly in the 1890’s and were typical of the aspirational middle classes so that in the Edwardian period they had two servants who were ‘farm girls’ from Sussex. In the case of my family this system persisted until 1940 (WW2).
Most of this development was close to Putney Bridge in Hurlingham and stretched across New Kings Road up to the Fulham Road.I think its amusing that many of these house now contain servants once again although they are ‘nannies’ or similar.
I can’t trace any photograph of Ancil Street but I note that there was a serious disease outbreak there (smallpox?) in 1881.This does not seem like the road for ‘gentry’ so it may be that your ancestor did not ‘live’ in but journeyed to his place of work perhaps in Hurlingham.
Hi – I am researching the Dixon family living in Ancill Road Fulham in 1891 census… they weren’t a particularly well off family – dad was a house painter – and they had 14 children… who went into service or trades – but in this census John aged 13 is a page boy which sounds quite posh – is it? and if so how would that have come about?
any help in understanding this much appreciated
Lesley@axelrod.co.uk
Lesley, until the early 20th century, boys of humble background might gain a place working in a great house or simply the house of well-to-do people. According to the International Butler Academy, these ‘pages’ were apprentice footmen. Unlike the hall boys, who did heavy work, these pages performed light odd-jobs and stood in attendance wearing livery when guests were being received. Many masters of a household saw a page as something of a status symbol and had servants whether or not they could really afford them.
Oh – thx so much
It sounds like quite a good / cushy job for a kid from a poor family!
Lx
Hello, I’m looking for help tracing the death of my ancestor Jesse Cook. I have traced him up to 1942 where I know he lived in and around Chelsea. According to his family he just disappeared. I have been unable to locate a death certificate.
He was born in February 1911
Vanessa,
Did Jesse have any middle names and if he married who was it to?
Did he serve in World War II? Do you know his address in 1939?
Apologies for the very late response! No middle names. He was born in battersea and lived most of his life at 15 Howie street. He married Mary Dalton and he had 4 children (one died in infancy). His youngest was born in 1942 and he apparently walked out on the family when she was just 12 days old. Never seen again! Complete mystery
Where was he born?
Hello,
My name is Kristine Achong. I recently became interested in my ancestry after the death of my father, Charles Achong. I have found mentions of my great x5 grandfather William Achong- a Chinese laundry man living in England. I am looking for more info on William M. Achong. Where is he from in China? The census only says China… and I’m stuck. I can’t find anything further. I never knew I was Chinese…. Thanks!!
Hi, i am wondering if anyone can help at all. My Gt Gt Gt Grandfather William Drury was living behind the Seven Stars public house in 1861 and he died in 1863 back of Seven Stars Public house and would like to know what sort of properties were behind the pub.
In 1871 Williams son Thomas my Gt Gt Grandfather had moved to No 12 Onslow Dwellings in 1881 he had moved to No 67 Onslow Dwellings where he said for at least 40 years, again i would like to know what sort of properties these were as the census says 108 dwellings. where they just rooms or like flats.
any help would be appreciated
Onslow dwellings along with other similar buildings like Sutton Dwellings, were some of the earliest social housing projects. check out the Chelsea Society website,https://chelseasociety.org.uk/history-behind-sutton-dwellings-chelsea and also the medical officer of health reports for Chelsea.
Thank you so much for that information, the information that I have read so far is very interesting and I still have other links you sent me to read. Thank you again
I think the corner of Gilston Road and Fulham Road is 178 Fulham road, now a dry cleaner. I have a couple of pictures of the Fishmongers, Ralph’s which might have been there. My digital copy is low res but there are some original prints in my family.
Do there exist a list of female employees who worked IAt the Ponds Factory’s Perivale in late 1961/2? Thank You
Maureen’s Barton-White
mobo7227@gmail.com
check out http://unilever-archives.com/ It’s a good search engine and you may find what you are looking for if not I suggest you write to Unilever archives at Port sunlight and enquire if any former employees records and their associated companies are available
I am trying to find the burial/cremation place for Mrs Dorothy Crook died 26th March 1947 at West London Hospital after suicide at Ravenscourt Park Station that day. I have newspaper reports but do not know where she was buried. She lived with her husband in West Sussex but is not recorded there. Some of her family (Munday) still lived in Fulham and may have arranged funeral (?). I have tried all usual online sites such as deceasedonline. Currently tracing all known cemeteries. Any help or advice would be useful. Thanks Elaine
192.com shows that there are still a number of people with the name Munday and Crook in the Yapton area As well as still in the Fulham Hammersmith area.
MIght A visit to St. Marys, the local church in Yapton prove useful.
The church may have produced a magazine that listed deaths in the parish and if they do not have it the local archives could.
Thanks. I’ll give that a try. E
Hi Elaine. Is this some of your family line. I was also looking for information about Dorothy Crook. Thanks , ken , B.C. Canada
Hi Ken- not family but I am helping an elderly friend who is related. There are some trees on Ancestry that show the Crook/Munday families. Is there a specific query? E
Hi Elaine is this for Joan?..ken
Hi Ken- yes it is. Do you have a connection? She is anxious to know where her mother was laid to rest. E
Cousins. How do we exchange email address..ken
Hi Ken- use ecord432@btinternet.com and let me know which branch you are related to. Thanks. E
My dad Edwin Roland Roberts was the landlord of a pub at 215, Hammersmith Road, Hammersmith, in September 1939. Do you know the name of this pub?
When they first arrived there at night they tried all the switches to see which lights worked. A little while later Special Branch arrived to arrest my dad for signalling to the enemy. One of the switches worked the illuminated sign outside the pub.
Best wishes, Eddie Roberts
The Three Jolly Gardeners
Thanks Peter
Hi I wonder if you have any information/photos of a model baby farm that was situated in St John’s House North End Road in 1871 or thereabouts. The building was, apparently, situated almost opposite Beaufort House ( not the school!). It was run by a woman called Matilda Dampier or Damp and called the Sophia Nursery.
Thank you
Sorry if you’ve answered these questions before … but I can’t locate (a) Northampton Place, Fulham, and (b) Lodge Avenue. Can you help?
Cathy Mosely
Northampton Place Fulham SW6 =Burlington Place 1939 Name stills exists.check google maps.
Thank you so much. I found relatives in my family tree who lived there for many years and the children all went to school in Munster Road.
The main school in Munster Road was this one which has now been taken over by a C of E Primary http://www.stjohnsce.lbhf.sch.uk/about/history.php
My grandfather, Richard Marriner, attended Munster Road School from 1900 – 1908, following several of his older siblings who transfered there when it opened in 1893. They lived in Burlington Road for a while, convenient for their father to work at the Fulham Pottery at the end of the road. My grandfather’s first job was at the Electric Palace Cinema which I believe was at 474, Fulham Road.
Hello I am trying to find information about the old ponds factory in ealing london
Especially in the early 60s mainly the people working there and the locationb
This is not in our borough however
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Chesebrough-Pond also moved to Victoria Road in 1923, as the Chesebrough Manufacturing Co., which had formerly been in Holborn. The company took over Pond’s Extract Co. of Perivale in 1956 and in 1964 Pond’s, with three other companies which had become part of the group, moved to Park Royal. In 1978 the factory made Vaseline and Q-tips products, employing c. 350.
BRITISH history online
I worked for Chesebrough-Pond’s (Personnel) in the 1960s and used to visit the Pond’s factory, twice a week. What information are you looking for?
Hello gang. I’m trying to find the location of White City Restaurant on Uxbridge Road, around 1939. I have one photo of the outside, it seems to be next to (on the opposite corner) a Salmon & Gluckstein, and there is a gasometer visible in the distance over the rooftops behind. If someone could give me a hint where I should start looking, that would be wonderful, many thanks.
You might have to wait for the archive to open but there appear to be some items in their see their online catalogue entry There seem to be 4 items from about this time over and above photos of Uxbridge Road and other material that may be in the manual indexes and there is always the newspaper archive on microfiche that may have adverts etc. Of course there could be mmore than one White City Restaurant. Good luck
Thank you, friend! 🙂
I don’t think it would be the one referred to by fhhs as that was a restaurant inside the White City Stadium. Are you sure the restaurant was on the Uxbridge Road? I don’t think a gasometer would have been viewable from the Uxbridge Road in the 1930s.
Further to my enquiry about my grandmother (Annie Maria Woodrow) who lived in Rylston Road, I have now found she was married before as Annie Maria Oliver and lived in Orbain Road. Any knowledge / contacts appreciated.
Have asked on this site before but thought would try again.Looking to discover what happened to Ivy Elizabeth Martin, born Bristol 13/12/09.Have found info on her for 1928 and 1932. Appears on 1939 register as Ivy Turner living with husband Leonard at 37 Gunnerstone rd, Fulham.Can’t find marriage or death certificate and don’t know if she had any children.
If you email me I believe I can give you some information
see below
contact brianjeffreys1@gmail.com
My great grandfather was a Councillor then Mayor and Alderman of Fulham. He represented Hurlingham ward and was re-elected in 1900. I have traced his results from 1900 onward but cannot find the election results for earlier years especially 1897 which was I think the first elections of the Met Borough style. His name was James M Littleboy. Any help with the data or a signpost to a likely source would be appreciated. He became a freeman of the Borough in 1929 and I have the scroll and silver casket which I would be happy to loan to a museum for display if it is of any interest.
There should be details a plenty in the archive and you can search the catalogue online. In addition there will be minutes and much more when it eventually reopens.
Sadly there is no museum as yet.
It might be worth searching online newspapers for teh results you are missing if you are impatient to get at the facts.
Good luck
I think you should recheck the BRITISH newspaper archive again, but search for the name Littleboy and Fulham Vestry..the council did not really exist under the 1900 term.You will find a number of references to Littleboy. Etc lists of committees and election figures.
Hello, FHHS. Do you have any historic photos? I am researching the Turner family who lived at 92 Fulham Palace Road (originally 11 Bradmore Grove, off 92 Fulham Palace Road) from at least 1918 until, I think the 1990s. They owned Turners Florists in Beadon Road (right opposite Hammersmith Station) until the last of the Turners bequeathed the business to the then shop manager in 1996. I would be particularly interested in any photos of the Turners’ house but especially of the florist shop from before the Second World War, the earlier the better, but photos from any era would be welcome!
Thanks very much. Steve Bennett
The Society itself doesn’t have any archives although some members and users of the website have collections and you may be lucky. However the best bet is to await the reopening of the Archives in Hammersmith Library. There is an extensive photo record of most streets from the 60s and also older pictures for many. There may be card indexes of businesses and prominent families and certainly directories. If work was done on either property there may be details in the drainage plans. In the meantime you could have a look at the online archive catalogue
Good luck with your search. It is probable that some users of this site will remember the shop.
Good Evening Steve,
Whilst I unfortunately have no photographs of the Turner’s florist shop in Beadon Road, we have a public group on Facebook called “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”
Since the Turner’s shop was just behind the old market, that was in Bradmore Lane, some of our group descend from the Parker family in the market and one of these, Bill Parker, immediately recognised the name and the shop, since they used the florists for some of the family funeral wreaths.(Bill and his father had stalls in the market).
If the Turner family lived in Bradmore Grove, this was at the top of the old market and was the road that had the old Lyric Theatre in…a little way from Fulham Palace Road. We do have some photographs of Bradmore Grove on this group page.
Please feel free to take a look at the group, if of interest.
Kind Regards,
Cary
My mother was born at 26, Ravenscourt Mansions W6, She was named Sophia Annie Hunter Tacey the Hunter being her fathers surname. not on birth certificate. My grandmother was kept by Henry Hunter until the 1930 when he lost everything, He was married with children, I have tried to trace him but I only know his name I thought that maybe he could have been on the rental agreement !! and could maybe find out something more. As I was told my grandma also had her own restaurant in Lord Byrons house, this I have tried tracing, lots of story’s I have been told so not sure about any I have been doing my family tree for about 20years but this is my brick wall.
I hope you can help in some way
Regards Sue Mcfarlane, Australia
In the 1950″s we lived in London and my mother worked in the radiology department of Hammersmith Hospital. Some Edwardian houses were demolished opposite the hospital during the early fifties, around 1951-3, i think. My mother and other staff were asked if they would like to rummage through the attics before demolition, when my mother found a 19 century drawing book. I am trying to trace the descendants of Bridget Margaret Babery, the artist and owner of the book, before my mother found it. Do you have any records that might help me trace the owners of these houses before demolition, approximately in 1953? Thank you for your help, kind regards,
Kathryn
Dear FHHS, I am interested in the history of the short terrace of houses, now fronted by shops, at 95-103 Askew Road, W12. I notice they are pictured on a map from the 1850s, when the are seems to have been known as Starch Green. I wondered if you had any information on the small settlement at that location at that time?
Hi,
I am tracing my family tree and I know my great grandad Henry J Watson married to Ada Ellen Watson owned or ran a sweet shop in Fulham area would have been around the 1930’s as my grandad was born in 1928 and he would tell me stories of all the sweets he would eat. If there are any photos tv information I would be most grateful.
I have found my great great uncle on a school admissions entry from 1906. His address is given as Parsons Green House.
Could anyone tell me if this was the workhouse or a childrens home?
It would tie in with a family story that he was taken into care or the workhouse as a child but i cant find any more info at present.
Many thanks
Nicki
If the address is 9 Parsons Green that was the Board of Guardians receiving home. Now part of Lady Margaret School. I have a photo. Glad to share if this is the address you have too.
It doesnt give a number Susan, but that would tie in with family stories of him being taken into care. If you could share a photo that would be fantastic. Many thanks for your reply
If you could let me know your email. I don’t think there is a way to put a photo on this link.
thanks Susan, its zoowiemamma78@gmail.com
Hi
On 5 February 1954 the Manchester Guardian reported two schoolboys, Barry Savage and Thomas Sweeney were commenced in the Marlborough Magistrates Court for their help in thwarting a robbery of a camera from a car parked in Cadogan Lane where Barry Savage lived. I do not know the date of the actual incident but it was reported locally with a heading something like “The Dick Bartons of Chelsea” referring to Barry Savage and Thomas Sweeney I am trying to ascertain what newspaper would have covered this incident. They went to Barry Savage’s address and took photos for the press release. I would very much like to get a copy of the newspaper article Can you help?
Thanking you
Jeanette Savage
Daily Mirror for the 5th of February 1954 page 3 carries the story together with a photograph of the two boys it appears they were asked to take a camera from a car the special wording you are looking for all the “sleuths of Sloane Square”
Article in BRITISH newspaper archive.
Cannot thank you enough. I have found the article and would like to order a commemorative copy but am struggling to do so I need to be sure I am getting the right copy but on one website page 1 is different from the one I need. Do you have a suggestion where I could order a copy of this particular Daily Mirror.
Many thanks and kind regards
Jeanette Savage
Have no experience of ordering back copies of historic newspapers but historic-newspapers.co.uk seem to have it for about £40.00. There are other sites as well
MARRYAT STREET. My family lived in George Street in The Creek area until 1911 when they moved to Marryat Street which I thought was also in The Creek. I cannot find it. It is not shown on Booth’s Poverty Maps or the Ordnance Survey – not even in the OS Map Directory. I would be grateful if someone would tell me where Marryat Street was. Thank you, Stephen
There is a Marriott cl in feltham , about 2k. From Fulham it is located on the northumberland river , and other creeks .
Marryat Cottages Hammersmith W6 Albert Place or Cottages 1914 Marryat Street Hammersmith W6 George Street.
Trafalgar Street was also near the HIGH Bridge
Thank you both for your replies. I’ve since found information in trade directories. My family’s neighbours in George St in 1910 were the same as in Marryat Street in 1920. So it seems George Street was renamed Marryat Street in 1911/12 and the houses were renumbered. In Booths there were George St, Little George St and Great George St – all in The Creek, plus another George St near St Peter’s Sq. so renaming avoided confusion perhaps. Many thanks
Hi, I’m trying to find a birth record for Moran Doyle (female) born I believe in 1902 in Shepherds Bush, mother Ann Mary Theresa Doyle, its possible the father was Clark. I have found the mother living in Staines when a child, also on the 1911 census living in Herne Bay under the name of Clark, with all 4 children all named Clark including Moran, but the 3 younger children were birth registered as Doyle, so obviously not sure on Moran’s surname when registered (she being the eldest). Also were there any music halls in the area in 1902, as Mr C Clark may have performed in them. Many Thanks.
Hello,
I wonder if you can help me.
I’m trying to find out what happened to the company W. Cole & Sons, which was a coach builder by royal appointment, later a motor car company. The company was at 235 Hammersmith Road, and several addresses in Kensington.
It was established in 1800 by my maternal grandparent, and I can find little information after 1920
I have managed to find images of the old adresses in Kensington, but nothing for Hammersmith. I note now that there is a new development where the company might have stood.
Any light you can shed on this would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
Barry
You could try checking the London Gazette for dissolved companies this can be done online .Grace’s guide to British industrial history as you say does have a number of references including images of Cole adverts but nothing after 1920 although there are a couple of index entries up to 1923
Hi I’m researching my family ancestry , I’ve found out my great grandad was a window cleaner , who’s round was kings street etc Hammersmith around 1945 time , I would love to know , if you by chance , had and pictures or information on him .
His name was mr Leonard j wright born 1901
Many thanks
I am hoping somebody can help me with advice please. The area of Fulham and Hammersmith was hugely important in the development of art bronze casting from about 1890 onwards. The small number of skilled artisans capable of producing top quality art bronzes were mainly concentrated in the area. My own ancestors had 2 foundries, 1 in Parsons Green and then 1 in West Kensington, others were Art Bronze (sadly recently closed), George Broad of Hammesmith who produced Eros, Fiorini, Mancini, Manenti were all important founders. I feel that, especially given the recent closure of the long established Art Bronze of Michael Road, Fulham, some sort of exhibition to celebrate the association of LBH&F with the art bronze foundries and the many bronzes they produced which are now in museums and public places worldwide would be welcome, but I don’t know where to start.I have spoken with Thomas Dodd of the Events Team at LBH&F but he needs a proposal to be put to him, not for him to instigate it. I have quite a lot of information that I can offer to anyone who may be able to take this idea further, perhaps a local historian or writer? I used to work in the area for about 15 years, but I live in Eastbourne so am not up to date with anything Fulham related. Many thanks.
Interested to hear your proposal we may indeed be able To find someone who could write up a proposal. pleased that you have retained local historical records and with the Internet these days I know a whole new world has been opened Up looking at past things .Only a Couple of weeks ago I heard of items once again found in a skip for a family or a house clearance had dumped in the street I am pleased you have retained family records that can be and of great historical interest. I
met a couple of the bronze founders from Michael road a few years ago when FP had an exhibition of local artefacts.There was of course also WA Benson located in Fulham as well. Fulham Palace also have temporary exhibition space and it would be worth a conversation with them as well
Thanks, I do hope someone will be able to get this off of the ground. As far back as 1923 The Fulham Chronicle when writing on the casting of the RAF Memorial by Parlanti’s foundry said’ Through the activity and technical skill of the Art Bronze Foundry in Beaumont Road, West Kensington, Fulham has earned world-wide distinction as the birth-place of noted Memorials…’.
Hi
Hope you can help. Wondered if you had any pictures/info of pawnbrokers greyhound Road in Fulham. Owned by Jones family around 1900-1919
Appreciated and thank you.
Try this site at Leicester Uni . Given the name Jones it may take some time. If the shop was small it may be more productive to search the street directory rather than the commercial one.
Of course the archive will be a good source when it opens. You could always try their online search.
Good luck
Hello – I am trying to trace an address
known as 33a Wards Avenue, Fulham
where my great Uncle and Aunt were listed as living on the 1911 cencus.
Any help would be appreciated.
I can find no record of that name could it be Wardo Avenue between Fulham palace Road and Munster Road?
Wardo ave does exist in the 1860 Charles booth living map . Can be downloaded free . It changes the map from 1860 to present . There. Is no ward. Ave
My Grandmother, Gertrude Frances HOLLAND was born at The Stables, Lillie Road, Fulham on 24th May 1888. (apparently, there was no room at the Inn !)
Does anyone know where in Lillie Road the Stables were (or still are ?). Does anyone, by chance, have any photographic evidence ?
Thank you
Hi Alan i think they are or were down the side of the prince ph just before Lillie Bridge hope this helps.
Thank you Len for your help.
Regards
Lillie yard does exist in the 1860 Charles booth living map . Can be downloaded free . It changes the map from 1860 to present . It is behind the Lillie inn and stables
Thank you Barry.- Will investigate the Charles Booth Living Map as suggested
Thank you very much for the reply re Fulham Pottery. Sadly it will be a while before I can get down from Scotland to visit the archives but I will keep the note of the records on file.
Reference information and a number of images posted for easy access.
Nobody seems to have been able to help with a photo of the 2 up 2 down plain terraced houses on Rylston Road so, just out of curiosity does anyone have any personal connections to the surnames Abbott and/or Woodrow?
Sorry to be unresponsive but the best place for photographs is the local archive at Hammersmith Library which is currently closed due to the COVID19 lockdown. This came up but not sure it is our Rylston Rd
https://www.famloc.co.uk/oldtenementsrylstonroad1897/ You could fill in the form to see what they have.
According to this site it used to be Church Road.
This online book may hold some info too
Further to the above. Have a look at this map which shows a row of houses on the east side of Rylston Road, North of Estcourt Road. This terrace looks smaller than the others and it went with the building of Clem Atlee Court.
Thank you, that’s very helpful!
Charles booth map shows rylston rd there in 1850 , the house layouts look the same . It may still be there
Thank you!
Were you or your parents ever evacuated to a “bomb- babies War nursery” to Bath and in particular Denewood Grange .? This would be 1940 – 1946, and was for orphans of the London Bombings and “special cases” as my evacuation was. Especially looking for two Sylvias (one a sole survivor of a family of seven) and the other with a brother James,, a Michael, Irish twins Brian and Kevin, Dark haired Ronnie. No surnames but all were evacuated to ‘my sad little group’., who entered this Waifs and Strays nursey in August 1944
Are you or were you ever in any way related to Raymond Brierley, who I was friends with at the Sir John Lillie school? Just a thought.
I am researching the Bird family who did much building in Hammersmith in the 19C. My wife’s 2 x great grandfather was Edward Bird son of George Bird and 2 x Great grandmother was Rachael Bird daughter of Stephen Bird. I see that Jacina Bird gave a talk on the Bird Builders three or so years ago and wondered if anything had been published on this or whether this can be passed on to Jacina.
Thanks
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Hi, wondering if you can tell me where I can find out when our house was originally built?
I live in Stowe Rd W12 8BE.
Any help appreciated.
Stowe Road was built circa 1865
The LCC books “List of the streets and places within the administrative county of London” held by the local archive at Hammersmith Library, the LMA and TNA will list when the street name was first authorised (not strictly when the houses were built as they were often done in phases). When the archive opens you will be able to look for records authorising the development and there are records of some of the builders so you may be lucky. They also have a very good collection of maps that could give you a good idea of when the building was done. There could be old photographs too. Finally they have a record of drainage plans that often contain details of the building and sometimes detailed plans. As a house owner these are well worth exploring but you have to give notice so they can be brought out of storage. Searching the online archive catalogue shows there are also a number of items deposited at the archive that maybe of interest too.
Having whetted your appetite for the archives at Hammersmith Library (Open Mondays and Tuesdays normally) you will now have to wait until the lockdown is over. You can start by using the Old OS maps at the National Library of Scotland which are online. The 6″ maps here may help.
Good luck with your search.
Hello I’m researching family history and have found a baptism record of St Augustine church Fulham for January 1912 that includes a relative, but I’m stuck in reading/finding the road name. It looks like Mooltan Road but I can’t find this street. I know the church was bombed in October 1940. Any help would be appreciated. The relative is Jessie Ross (there is also another person listed in the same month at the same road)
Lillie Road, Keith. More recently the parish has joined with the parish of St Alban to become St Alban with St Augustine, Margravine Road, Fulham. The patronage is shared between the Bishop of London and the Corporation of London.
Hi Keith Molton Street was bombed in 1944 from a V1 flying bomb also the surrounding streets as well, Normand Park was built in their place, hope this helps Len
Thanks for that info
Actually it was a V2 that bombed Normand Park and decimated the whole area. I might be wrong but I think thaty was the only one to fall in the Fulham ~Area
Thank you for that info it’s very helpful.
regards
Keith
Quoting from Properts Parish it says “the first V1 to come down in Fulham fell in St. Augustine’s Parish In Lintaine Grove just before 5 am on Sunday morning June18th. 15 people were killed and 29 seriously injured .Fulham’s second flying bomb fell on St Mary’s Church Hammersmith Road later the same day injuring 14 and killing one person, the church was destroyed .Fulham’s next worst day was on Saturday, July 1. Among the 3 V.1 ‘s that dropped inFulham was one in Mooltan Street which killed two people And badly injured 3 more.”
Thanks for that info it’s very helpful
Regards
Keith
It could be Moylan Road off Lillie Road. See this online map from the NLS. If you are using ancestry or find my past you should be able to search for the parents in the 1911 census.
Hope this helps. If not the LBHF archives in Hammersmith Library when they reopen should help.
Good luck
|Thanks for the tip re Moylan Road. I’ve seen the 1891, 1901 & 1911 census info and they’d were at different addresses.
There is an excellent book for those who wish to learn about St Augustines church and the area , it called Propert’s parish, and is by Denis A. Clack. Published in 1994, it is a thick paperback, but prone to breaking up
Have checked .internet copies are available used for £9 or so.email me at history@allsaints-fulham.org.uk if you can’t track down store..
My great grandfather, Joseph Thomas Marriner (1858-1917) was born in Fulham and, like his older brother, John, became a potter or potter’s journeyman. I believe they both worked at the Fulham Pottery. John was a potter’s boy in the 1871 census and Joseph was given as a potter on his 1881 marriage entry. Do you know whether there are any apprenticeship records, please, and if so where they are kept? I understand both John Doulton and Wallace Martin of the Martin Brothers did their apprentceships at the Fulham Pottery so I guess there are records somewhere. I have been down to Burlington Road to take photos of the house where my grandfather was born in 1894 and was delighted to see the remaining bottle kiln standing rather incongruously in the grounds of an office block at the end of the road. I have found the history of the pottery absolutely fascinating and would be very grateful for any help you can give me as I am trying to write up my family history.
Thank you.
Giz Marriner
PS I now live in Scotland so it is going to be a while before I can get down to look at any records…but it is good to plan ahead!
You need Hammersmith archives
1
1869-1969: ledgers, day, cash, letter, time, wages, sales, stock and despatch books, misc corresp, price lists, copies of plans
Hammersmith and Fulham Archives and Local History Centre
DD/255,DD/261,DD/336,DD/340,DD/379,DD/448
NRA 16821 Fulham Pottery
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1901-1978: corresp, ledgers, wills and catalogues
Hammersmith and Fulham Archives and Local History Centre
A2006/18
See if you can get hold of The Journal of ceramic history number 11 John delights pottery 1672 to 1978 a collection of documentary sources published Stoke-on-Trent Museum 1979 edited by Dennis Hazelgrove and John Murray it’s a very useful publication but unfortunately it does not have an index.
It’s an amazing collection of material some 284 pages long
Hello. I would be very grateful for your help. I am looking for any information on the death of my Uncle. James H. Kelly born 1st quarter 1927 and died 1st quarter 1936. I wonder if there may be any newspaper articles regarding this. He lived in Fulham with his family. Edward James and Rose Francis Kelly. Very many thanks Jan
Hello,
I was wondering if it was possible to source original plans for our current home on (42) Parfrey St. in Hammersmith? I understand that there were a number of different layouts for the houses on the street when first built.
Thanks,
Rob
Your best bet is to request the drainage plan file for Parfrey Street. Drainage plans list all the applications to modify drains over the years. They often have detailed plans attached if you are lucky this may help. Also there may be something in the items deposited with the archive referencing that Street. Just type the street name in the Search box of the online archive catalogue
Good luck with your quest.
Hello my name is Ian Freeman and I used to work for Lyon bakery at Cadby Hall for 5 years till 1977. What I see on Google street map as Lyric House on Hammersmith Road, looks to me like J.Lyons central laboratories as I remember it, is this the case. Many thanks, Ian Freeman.
This is not related to your enquiry but I wonder if your wife – or mother – was a Maureen Freeman? Maureen was a friend of my mother’s and I seem to remember a connection with Lyons. I’ve been trying to locate Maureen for a while, with no success.
D Morris
Yes. I understand that Margaret Thatcher had her first job here
Hello,
I’ve just discovered that about 1892 my grandmother lived at 7 Jarell Mews in Fulham and I wonder if there are any sources that might tell me more about the mews including old maps of the locality?
I’m mostly interested from a family history angle, but as a retired council town planner who did a lot of conservation work and have an interest in the history of architecture and design which I did as part of my studies, I would be very interested to know more about the place and if any special protections are in place.
My family were originally from Kilburn and I hail from Willesden although we no longer live in London. Cheers.
I cannot find Jarell Mews in anything to hand. If you have any other clues that might narrow it down then the following may help.
The definitive history of Fulham in 3 volumes online by Feret:
https://wellcomecollection.org/works/nqjrefna
Directories from Leicester Uni:
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4
Old OS Maps from National Library of Scotland:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/95470395
There should be more when the archive opens again archives@lbhf.gov.uk
So for now, good luck with your search
We received this enquiry from Lindsey can anyone help? we have directed her to the Archive but it may be some time before they are open.
I was curious to ask, please, about the death in Fulham of a professional cricketer by the name of Kenneth Brian Day on 19 January 1971; he was only 35 years of age at the time.
Do any archived newspaper stories or other sources list a cause of death?
The Wikipedia article states that he played for Middlesex –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Day
Many thanks,
Lindsey Jauregui
Hello the death Is recorded in the Kensington post in February 1971 it appears that Kenneth was a plumber and was stripping laid off a roof shortly after it been raining with another person including his father suddenly he was no longer on the roof and had fallen five floors sustaining serious multiple injuries and died from laceration to the brain
Why, when I click on ‘Contact’ in your heading do I automatically get the pdf of a Thesis downloaded? Surely this is a bug? I certainly didn’t ask for it to be downloaded. Is it dangerous?
Martin
Yes I have had the same problem. I assume someone has it linked to their avatar or web profile. I have tried to find it myself and can find no hidden objects on the site. I will shortly be upgrading the site and hope to get rid of it then. Many thanks for reporting this.
Looking for information on my great grandfather Hezekiah Atkinson, son of Mathew and Charlotte Atkinson – left Hammersmith for Australia around1880?
regards Pam
Hello,
I live in Robert Gentry House, Gledstanes Road. I have been trying to find out what happened to the houses that originally occupied this site.
Initially I assumed a bomb had destroyed them, but checking the London Bombing Map shows that no bomb exploded here.
I have looked at old newspapers, all they mention is when Robert Gentry House was built.
Looking at a 1913 map of the area the original houses are clearly marked as having existed. I would very much like to satisfy my curiosity as to why so many of them were demolished.
Hopefully someone out there may know the answer
Thank you
Tania
Hi Tania,
I found this info out when I researched where my grandmother lived at Snells Park during and after WW2. She was moved onto Tottenham. If houses were Terrace housing, quite often the buildings would deteriorate over time and then gradually be condemned. It was an initiative of the Government at the time to replace deteriorating housing and they would condemn the lot (regardless if the people owned it or not – they would be given a nominal payout and offered other housing in another area recently built). I am not sure if it still occurs today as I don’t live in UK but when I visited in 2008 I saw some all boarded up with a notice of condemnation and a date of demolish up near Knottingley. So it did then…. Not sure if this answers your question but gives you an idea of a possibility. Cheers
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Hello Rosina,
Yes, it seems like a very plausible explanation as to why the houses were demolished.
Many thanks for replying
Tania
I’m looking for information about a pub fire in shepards bush before 1946 the pub is called the royal oak thank u
Hi, as a child I can remember (this is in the mid/late 1950s) visiting my grandmother at her house in Rylston Road. I remember the house as a very plain small 2 up/2 down terraced house with a small backyard and outside toilet. I think it was demolished when they built the flats. Now I can only find photos of rather upmarket bay window houses. Am I misremembering?
Good afternoon,
I live in St James St W6. I’ve been trying to find out the name of the architect of The Hammersmith Storm Water Pumping Station which was built in 1828.
Many thanks.
Rosa Coles
I can find no direct reference to it in what I have available or on the web. However page 105 of our publication “A History of Hammersmith” it states that W. Tierney Clark was engineer to West Middlesex Water Company, so it could be him. He went on to build the 1827 Hammersmith Bridge that preceeded Bazagette’s current one. It also says that Bird firm of builders were their bricklayers. It is therefore likely there will be some records in the archive and you can search online from the Archives link on http://www.LBHF.gov.uk website. Just found a further reference on page 109 to his building part of the Waterworks complex so I think he is probably your man.
Good luck with your research.
William Tierney Clark FRS FRAS[1] (23 August 1783 – 22 September 1852) was an English civil engineer particularly associated with the design and construction of bridges. He was among the earliest designers of suspension bridges.
William Tierney Clark
William Tierney Clark Barabás Miklós.jpg
Born
23 August 1783
Bristol Nationality English
Died
22 September 1852 (aged 69)
Hammersmith, Middlesex
Engraving of the first Hammersmith Bridge, made in 1827
Marlow Bridge
Széchenyi Chain Bridge, Budapest
Born in Bristol, he was initially apprenticed to a local millwright and – guided by noted engineers Thomas Telford and John Rennie – he progressed to practice as a consulting civil engineer, moving to London where, from 1811, he was also engineer to the West Middlesex Waterworks Company (the engine house and other buildings involved in a scheme to pump water from reservoirs at Barnes to Hammersmith and other parts of London were designed by him
Info from wikipedia
Hi, I’m trying to source some additional information on a Patrick McAuliffe. He was living in England for some years (originally from Ireland) and died in Fulham in 1971. He worked as a barman in the 30s/40s. We thought he might have had a spell in the army but I haven’t had any success in finding any information on this.
Thanks.
MY great grandfather Charles Seymour Jones was seriously very injures in an accident at Battersea Power station one December and died of his injuries 6th Jan the following year in mid 1930’s.
Where can I find more information please? I know the accident is documented somewhere in National Archives as some years ago I saw a record of the inquest online but never followed it up.
Can you help.
Steffanie Ward
Hi, my great grandparents lived on Silvio Street during ww2. I can’t find Silvio Street on any map. Can you confirm where this was in Fulham. Thanks Bill
Please check typing as there does not seem to be a street of this name in all of London
Sorry, The name was not recorded in Bruce’s lists, however I have now found it in Kelly’s West kensington/ Fulham local directory for 1939/40. There as a Silvio Mews and a Silvio Street, however no residents are listed only the Tonic Wine company at 1a.
Its location today would be approximately under the Lillie Road opposite Clem Attlee Court
Silvio Street was part of the Normand House Estate and its orchard and was roughly where Normand Park in Lillie Road now sits. Normand House and many surrounding streets were demolished by a landmine in 1941 and a VI rocket in 1944. The park was built on the bombed out areas after the war and opened in 1952.
I lived there as a child and watched the park being built after the bomb site was cleared.
Dear Sirs,
Can anyone help me find photos of the Lord Clyde pub or beershop which was situated in Worlds End Passage from the mid 1800s.
Thank you,
Andy Carroll
Worlds End Passage is in Chelsea. There is a picture of a Lord Clyde pub at 124 Estcourt St in Fulham in the book Hammersmith and Fulham Pubs (see publications) and this is credited to have come from LBHF archives. If Chelsea is the one then contact Kensington and Chelsea Archives (see their library website)
Good luck
Thank you very much for this information, I shall follow it up.
Best regards, Andy
Go to pub wiki.com .it shows the complete history of the pub. And all London pubs , including address changes , demolition etc. also all licencees since the records
Hi Barry,
That was the first place I looked but there is no photo of the pub. I have a small collection of Victorian pewter pub tankards which are usually engraved with the pub’s name and the initials of the publican who paid for them. I was offered a tankard from the Lord Clyde and I always try to find a period photo of the pub any tankard once belonged to. I realise the Lord Clyde was in Chelsea but a Google search led me here as it was mentioned in someone’s comment but there are so many comments it would take days to read them all! Thank you very much for the good suggestion, the members of this Society are a very kind and helpful bunch.
Best regards,
Andy
Look up the rylston murder mystery 1884 . , the London murder mysteries : Ellen visited the lord Clyde fulham Before being murdered . You might read the case in the old Bailey reports .they uselly have pictures
Hi Barry, you are incredibly kind to keep helping me, thank you. However, it seems there were two Lord Clyde pubs fairly close together, one in World’s End Passage Chelsea and the other in Etscourt Rd. Fulham. I suspect the one you are referring to is the Fulham pub but I wanted photos of the Chelsea one. Thanks again, Andy
Andy, you are quite right about there being two Lord Clyde pubs in Victorian times. One in Estcourt Road Fulham, and one at 39 Worlds End Passage in Chelsea. Try this link for info. https://pubwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/Chelsea/LordClyde.shtml It may have just been a private house, that sold alcoholic drinks, which did happen in those days.The two main pubs along there in those days were Worlds End Tavern and Blantyre Arms at 29 Blantyre Street. I used to live in Seaton Street in the 1960’s which was just off Blantyre Street. Cheers Steve Harding
Sorry to repeat but my father was born in 1911 at 86 Ormiston Road (now Ormiston Grove). Can anyone tell when the current 86 Ormiston Grove was built please ? Trevor
Circa 1878
Thanks Peter
We have an ancestor Arthur Head admitted to St Dunstans road school apparently at the age of three in 1886 and leaving in 1894 but can find no information about the school. Perhaps the word “school” is a euphemism for something else ? (London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911)
Any thoughts would be welcome.
Whilst the archive is closed it is difficult to establish details but if you read this report about the building of a 6th form college on the site it gives a little history of the previous buildings. It seems there was a board school there so probably nothing untoward although the Workhouse, now Charing Cross Hospital adjoins this road. There are probably pictures of the school in the archive; when it opens.
Good luck with your research.
Thank you, I’m just intrigued by his age at the time – claimed to be three but only 21/2 which would be young even today. It does though seem to be a normal school.
Hello all.
I wonder if any one knows how I could find a grave in Fulham palace cemetary. My mother thinks she’s visited it before when she was small but I have searched the area she said and can not find anything. The sir name is Rigarlsford. There should only be one there. Probably been removed.
Contact the cemeteries department of L B of Hammersmith and Fulham
Trying to find out what happened to Ivy Elizabeth Turner (born Martin) born 13/12/1909 living in Gunnerstone rd on 1939 register.
A quick look at Free BMD shows no results for Marriages or deaths of those names in London. The following did come up:
Surname Given Name Spouse District Volume Page Transcriber
Marriages Sep 1972
TURNER IVY E. BEAUMONT NEWHAM 5E 1874 (this is page no)
Deaths Dec 1974 (>99%)
TURNER IVY ELIZABETH 17NO1906 LEWISHAM 14 809
The death has the wrong date of birth for a match. Probably worth a bit of perseverence with FreeBMD (type into Google). You may be able to look at electoral registers in Ancestry or find my past to see when she moved away and who else was sharing the house which may give some clues.
Good luck.
Do you have any 19th century pictures of Hurlingham Road or indeed Parson’s Green.
There are a number in “Fulham Old and New” which is available on line
Re slum in Fulham. Look up Charles booth mapping of London . It will show The status of your family’s housing . It will cover that period
Hi,
I was wondering if Fulham was an immigrant Jewish community in the 1880’s to the early 1920’s?
Just curious as my family all seem to have lived in or around this area, and they had come over from Russia.
Thanks
Garry
In the 1600s there was a Jewish school near the Mall run by a Mr Cohen but I can find no real evidence of Jewish settlement in particular here. The period you mention covers the time of rapid growth and much building which would naturally attract those seeking work or business opportunities. It was also a period when the area became industrialised and very crowded with multiple families in the poorer houses. The main religious draw was for Catholics – not only for the work but also there is a long tradition of Catholic institutions in Hammersmith.
Hey Garry, my whole family lived in Fulham from 1920s to 50s. They were Russian / Lithuanian Jews who had originally been settled in Wales and then moved to London in the 20s. I don’t know if there was a Jewish community there, or whether there were enough Bravos to be considered a community in themselves!
Hi Sarah, thanks for that. It just seems odd that there were about three generations at least of my family all around Fulham and Chelsea area around that time. Perhaps it’s the same as you and there were a lot of Gromowski’s in that area!
Thanks
Hi Sarah – my grandmother was Esther Bravo, daughter of Harris. Let’s connect. Jonathon Fletcher.
Will send email address to Sarah so you don’t have to publish.
Hi, my father was born at 86 Ormiston Road (now Ormiston Grove). I suspect it was a slum in 1911 and wonder if anyone knows if/when it was demolished and replaced ? Thanks, Trevor
Ormiston Road was not demolished; it was just a name change to Ormiston Grove. It was not a slum.
Dear History Society,
I am particularly interested in the Fulham Fields market gardens and the lives of the market gardeners working in the fields during the early/mid 1800’s, very many of whom were Irish immigrants.
Are there any publications that you know of which cover research into this?
I also wondered whether there are any market garden workers employment records in existence?
I am aware of all the genealogy online records available so I am really looking for quite specific research/knowledge of these market gardens.
Any information will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Anne Scott
Understanding that Nurseries are different from Market Gardens I think you may find material to help in our publication West London Nursery Gardens (see Publications and review in our homepage blog). It particularly quotes the Elliot and Dancer families who did both types of gardens and had land at Fulham Fields. It includes an extensive bibliography and references for both published and unpublished material at LBHF Archives. The Cottage Gardener which became the Journal of Horticulture is quoted often as is The Company of Gardeners. He also uses Feret’s Fulham Old and New available online here courtesy of the Welcome Collection. You can search LBHF’s archive online now which may help but records will only be available after the lockdown. Someone more knowledgeable may come up with more ideas so keep an eye out for replies.
Good luck with your research.
Very many thanks for your helpful reply. I will certainly take a look at the publications which you have recommended regarding Fulham Fields. Kind regards Ann Scott
On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 13:00, The Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society wrote:
> fhhs commented: “Understanding that Nurseries are different from Market > Gardens I think you may find material to help in our publication West > London Nursery Gardens (see Publications and review in our homepage blog). > It particularly quotes the Elliot and Dancer families ” >
The 1911 census shows my grandfather Harry Edwin Smith living at 145 Dawes Rd Fulham with a family called Jones the head of this family was a William James Jones who, like my grandfather was a watch jobber can anyone tell me if this address was a jewellers and if so what it was called? Many thanks
Hi does anyone know about Gibbons family GEorge Gibbons 1880s to 1950s who lived in hammersmith thank you
Hi can anyone help please I am trying to trace Lambert family and Lowe who I think lived in Margravine road some are buried at margravine cemetery it would of been 1880s to 1950s thank you
Hello,
I am conducting some research about the West Kensington Congregational Church (these days Bhavan cultural center) in the period between its opening and 1914.
Would you know of any published testimonies or biographies from members of this church or people close to it during this period or any publication mentioning the church or its Sunday School? Extensive church books and press references are available in the LBHF local archives but I would be interested in external sources such as testimonies about the church and its life.
Thanks in advance for your help.
For years I have passed a war grave in Fulham Cemetery off Munster Road, and always been very touched by the death of such young woman in the war. I am now trying to write a play for a competition to mark the Battle of Britain and have been trying to find out more about this woman (as would like to focus the play around her). I have tried Ancestry, the Records Office and even joined the Forces Record register but cannot find out anything other than when she died. Ideally I would like to know more about her family and life in Fulham, and also the cause of her death at a young age.
The inscription on the grave reads as follows:
213016 ACW 2nd Class
D.M Adams
Women’s Auxillary Air Force
7th Nov 1943, aged 19
and underneath
‘In loving memory of our daughter Doris, killed by enemy action.’
It would be so helpful to know where and why she died, and I have managed to find out that her parents were Walter Henry and Ellen Adams of Fulham. I tried looking up the newspaper archives but the search brought up so many results (all unrelated and not the right year) that it was impossible to find anything relevant. I was hoping there may be a local obituary in one of the papers.
I don’t have long now to write the play, and have spent a considerable amount of time trying to locate relevant material, so would be extremely grateful for any suggestions. With many thanks, Alexa.
I have some basic information from FINDMYPAST
probably same as you have will have a look and see if anything else
I have found an article re her funeral in the local paper
contact me as shown before
brianjeffreys1@gmail.com
Many thanks Brian and will email you now. I have now learnt she died in a terrible bombing in Putney on Nov 7th 1943.
There is some information on the Commonwealth War Graves site: https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead/results?initial=D%2BM&lastName=Adams&war=2
Many thanks Peter.
Have you tried the RAF Association.
Many thanks.
Hope this helps a little, Alexa. The 1939 War Census shows a Walter Henry and Ellen Adams living at 26, Orbain Road, Fulham. The death of Doris M Adams, aged 19, was recorded at Wandsworth.
Aircraftwoman 2nd Class, Doris Margaret Adams,(Service Number 2130161) enlisted after August 1942 died (as you said) on 7th November, 1943. She was the daughter of Walter Henry and Ellen Adams of Fulham.
Hi Mark – thank you so much for replying and giving me this further information. Actually, it gave me a bit of a start, as I live in the house opposite her parents (and presume this is also where Doris lived!). It’s funny that I have always wanted to write about her, and your information seems to confirm that I should! I have also discovered she was killed by a bomb on 7th Nov 1943 at the Milk Bar in Putney – a huge bombing which caused a horrendous loss of life. Very harrowing to read about.
I really appreciate you help, and very best wishes, Alexa
Thanks, Alexa. Just thought I ‘d mention that, coincidentally, my mother lost s friend in the same bombing.
Good luck.
Mark
I’m so sorry to read that Mark. I know WWII was full of tragedy and loss of life, but that particular bombing was so devastating – not least because so many young people lost their life, like Doris and your mother’s friend. So terrible.
Just another quick question – on the info you sent me it said her parents lived at number 26 Orbain Road, but Brian Jeffries kindly sent me a newspaper article on Doris’s funeral which stated her parents lived at number 7. It’s not that important, but as I live in the street I wanted to ask an elderly neighbour just in case he remembered anything about the family. As yours came from a more official course I’m inclined to go with that one but any thoughts on how I could confirm this?
With thanks again, Alexa
Alexa, my source (findmypast.co.uk) has the Watson family living at number 7 and the Adams family at number 26. However, the wartime census was 1939 so I suppose their is a chance that by 1943 they had moved or perhaps Doris lived at 7 and her Mum and Dad were at 26.
The record for 26 shows five other people living there as well as Walter and Ellen. One is James Adams, aged 13 or 14, who must be a son and is shown as ‘At School’ and another is John Adams, aged 3 and also ‘At School’ (which I would have thought was unlikely). The other three are not visible as they say ‘The Record for this person is officially closed’. Records for individuals remain closed for a century after their birth (the 100-year rule) unless it can be proven they passed away before this milestone’. When this shows, the records can only be opened when someone confirms that the person is now deceased. Difficult to confirm unless you’re a family member with exact knowledge. Of course, there’s a chance that the three people in this case are completely unrelated to the Adams family.
Because the census is only published every 10 years (the wartime one was an exception) and we’re not due the next one (for 1921) for another year or so there’s no way of confirming whether Doris Adams was living at 26 with mum and dad or at 7 with the Watson family but the record for number 7 does say there were 4 people living there and they’re all named.
Thank you so much for more info Mark. It is so interesting, and as it all new to me, I am learning a lot (such as the 100 year rule). It’s only because I live in the same street, I would love to know the actual house she lived in, but as you say, it may be difficult to know for sure. My feeling is it was no 26 and perhaps the newspaper got the wrong house number?
Anyway, I so appreciate all your help in this and so glad I found this site!
Kind regards again, Alexa.
I believe that The Coffee Bar was in Putney High Street near where the Upper Richmond Road crosses the High Street. Might have been in the same building as Zeeta House. On the right hand side of the High Street when looking towards Putney Bridge. I recall often visiting The Black and White coffee bar near that location as a teenager in the 60’s. Putney has always been regularly visited by those living in Fulham through the ages. Just the river separating them. My Mum recalled often visiting Putney to go to the cinema during WWII. She lived for a while in Putney Bridge Road and Dad came from Sands End near Wandsworth Bridge. They married in 1941. There is quite a bit of material online concerning that bombing. I was born in 1945 and spent the first 30 years of my life in Fulham.
I am researching the O’CONNELL family and I’m hoping that someone in your community could give me some guidance on where to get further information.
In the 1901 census I have Timothy O’CONNELL living at No1 Home Cottage, Distillery Lane, Fulham and, I’m assuming his brother, James O’CONNELL living next door at No. 2. They are both listed as Greengrocers with own business.
Would this have been a shop or market traders? James died before 1911 and his family had moved to Brook Green. Timothy or his family, I cannot find any further info.
Any help will be appreciated.
Regards
David
Try Online Directories at Leicester Uni. Its clunky but worth a try. Otherwise the LBHF archives after the lockdown.
Good luck
Thanks for taking the time to respond. “clunky” doesn’t start to describe it. Finally found how to navigate through it. Distillary lane very hard to find, but only No 1 listed, so no help. If I was a betting man I would say the brothers were “barrow boys”. Although it hasn’t helped, I now have another resource for my research, so thank you for introducing me to this web site. Regards, David
Trying to find if you or anybody has information re my relative from the 1875, 1880 period . His name is John church. And we have traced him having a public house .inn , in Hammersmith . Fulham area , the pub was called the rising sun . But we cannot identify the address .??.possiblynorth of Hammersmith bridge
The pub at 477 Fulham Road was the Rising Sun first licensed in 1855, there was also a Sun in Askew road Hammersmith that was flattened in a bombing raid. You should be able to find licensing records when the archive in hammersmith library opens again.
Good luck
Hi Barry, Not sure if you will get this message, I am tracing my family and have the same John Church show up. Actually from my side it would be Maria Atkins who would have been his wife. On another web site I have found that the Rising Sun pub was probably at 20 Cardross Street, Hammersmith. Now houses I believe
Hi Simon i all so have church and Atkins. In my family tree. Originally from Bedfordshire but my line lived in london i have a Frederick john arnosby church who married a Atkins at holy trinity church Holborn london. 18c there was many children.
Hi Jean. Funny I am actually from Bedfordshire. But the Atkins would have been from Surrey area. Around 1950s I think there seemed to be a movement to North Bucks area. John Church married into my family, so Church wouldnt be a line I follow, but Atkins maybe linked. Interestingly the John Church mentioned here witht he pub, was linked to the Julia Martha Thomas murder case.
Hello, i wonder what information you would have on Fulham Pottery and maybe Lambeth Pottery, i believe my ancester William Odell Rathbone was a foreman there around 1890 to 1908. Is there any files on the workforce of fulham pottery etc, thank you gary howard
If you go to LBHF Archive online you will find that searching for Fulham Pottery throws up lots of records such as ledgers, day books, cash books and letter books. There are also likely to be some photos in the archive too but sadly you will have to wait until the “lockdown” is over. You must contact the archives@lbhf.gov.uk to book a day (Monday or Tuesday) to see the records you are interested in as other than photos everything has to be brought up the week before from the archive store.
They say patience is a virtue!
Good luck with your search
I lived in Hartopp Avenue in 1950s, I,m looking for my best friends of those times, Johny Brown and Arthur Adams, if they are still alive I would love to have contact with them.
I’d welcome any info and/or leads about a fire at Fulham Baths in late 1942 / early 1943 in which a stoker named George Davis died.
Thanks
Just come across request for any info on Heathfield House School Fulham, but have no idea when it was posted. I was there from around 1947-1952!
Hi Wendy I was there from about 1949 to 1955 my name was Janet Passman and the other kids in my class were Christopher Thorpe Paul Johnston Rodney Moss etc if you married what was your maiden name? it was such a small school but what a wonderful teacher Miss James was!
Hi Janet. Wendy Phillips was my maiden name. I certainly remember the name Rodney Moss, and I think Christopher Thorpe. Other kids I remember were Peter Cottington, Peter Allan, Dawn Horsman. Can’t remember how many kids there were and how she fitted us all in!
How many times has lakeside road been renamed and what were the previous names?
My gt,gt aunt lived there when it was Raleigh Road. She lived there at number 23 in 1907. Prior to that it was Wharton road. It changed from Wharton Road To Raleigh Road on the 12th if February 1907. I don’t know of any other changes. Hope this helps. 🌈
This may have been already answered but Lakeshores road was Rayleigh road previously. I had a lot of family on that road from about 1911 until 1940s.
Hi,
It was Wharton Road until 1907. My great aunt lived at 23 Raleigh Road at that time. She was married to an Austrian man named Jean Muller. I’m looking for information regarding both of them. She was named Rebecca or ‘Rissie’. I’d be really grateful if anyone knows anything about them. 😇
Hi Lynne,
I think we have spoken before but unfortunately I do not know your family. Various members of mine lived at 57, 72, 92, 93, 95, 100 Rayleigh Road from at least 1910 so I expect they would have known your family! My mother and aunts grew up in Blythe road just around the corner but are too young for this era.
I am trying to find the location of the Colemans buildings in Hammersmith, where some relatives lived in 1901. They were scheduled for clearance in 1936
Hello, I am looking for info on this building too, in particular the Brooker family who lived there circ 1850-65.
Hi I’m just wondering if anyone can remember group of young tearaways that. Run in The streets. of Hammersmith Riverside Gardens early Seventies to mid 70s
Hi, my old pal John O’ Keefe lived in Riverside Gardens with his lovely parents Joe and Flo,
hi, I am looking for Anna O Keefe. Mothers name is Christine. They lived in the Fulham area in the 60s, early 70s?
best regards
jes
Hi I wonder if anyone can remember the McCarthys who lives in Fulham in the 50s and 60s I wanted if you could tell me anything about them as my mother father’s mother was aMcCarthy
Stephen Rimmer S.Rimmer3@edu.salford.ac.uk is researching Television Centre. He been researching at the Local Studies & Archives in the past but would now like to get some first hand reminiscences about the building, how locals feel about it etc.
He asks:
Regarding my research into Television Centre, I wonder if any members of your local history group or visitors to the website would be willing to help me with my research by answering a few questions (in writing). My academic/published research is going very well but I need some unpublished resources. I am not looking for anyone with knowledge of dates of events or that kind of thing, but rather I am trying to get an idea of how people who work or live locally in Shepherd’s Bush feel about the building which sits just a few hundred metres down the road from your building. I am writing a chapter for my dissertation on the affection that people have for the building and the role it plays in the area. I know for example, that a local school was invited to paint the mural which adorned the fence which was at the back of the building in Hammersmith Park during redevelopment. I am trying to understand how TVC fits into life in Shepherd’s Bush now that the building has a mixed-use public and private function. Any help would be most appreciated.
I was fortunate enough to visit Shepherd’s Bush/White City earlier in the year and my studies aside, it is my favourite part of London so I hope to return when everything is back to normal. I am now looking for unpublished stories and anecdotes from locals, if possible.
So you can get back to him direct using the email address above or if you wish to share more widely can post on here.
FHHS
Hi I am looking for news on my great grandfather born around 1900 last lived Ifield Rd Chelsea in 1960
Can you help.
Trevor, afraid this is outside our patch.
Suggest you go to Ancestry or FindMyPast on the internet (there is a subscription) or for free in most libraries when they open again. You will need his full name, it would help to know where he was born.
Electoral registers may give you his details but the latest released census is 1911 so you may be able to trace him through those in either of those programs. You could use Free register of Births Marriages and Deaths – FreeBMD. If you don’t have enough details work back from relatives you know more about.
Armed with full name and address you may be able to get more from RBKC Archives who are likely to have some photographs or maps of the street. Depending upon his employment/business or status you might get notices in the local newspapers or directories.
Good luck with your search
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Hello,
I have recently researched my DNA and found out that my father’s family came from Fulham.
Last name Coleshill. I was wonder if you have records of an address.
Funny thing is, I was adopted in 1960 as an infant and only in the last two years have found out my paternal history.
Thank you, sincerely
Tracy Larocque
Hi
Please see the January 2019 reply by Karen Newington. This seems to answer your question at least in part.
If as Karen suggests you can get details from Ancestry (free in most libraries) you can then look at addresses in the electoral register to see if there are still Coleshills in the same property.
Good luck. (when libraries eventually reopen)
If you like I can give Karen your email address and you can communicate directly. Let me know on fhhslist@gmail.com
Backtrack Fulham is another site to check on Facebook as well. Both sites have photographs of the street traders in North End Road with St John’s church in the background. I have not been down the market recently, but if the CoxsJordan or Seaby families are still trading they might be able to help
Tracy try We grew up in Fulham site on FB some Coleshills on there
Tracy try We grew up in Fulham site on FB some Coleshills on there
Sorry its I grew up in Fulham site on FB some Coleshills on there
Hi Tracy, I was born and grew up in the Sands End area of South Fulham. I knew a Coleshill family who lived in Wandsworth Bridge Road. David, the son was in the 24th Fulham boy scouts when I was in the 1950’s. I know his Dad was a stallholder in the well known Fulham market in North End Road. I believe that they were part of a larger Coleshill family in Fulham.
Hello, I’m working with a company local to Fulham on their history. I’m looking for a recommendation as to a good history of Fulham which covers the 20th century. I’m interested in how the area changed and groew over the period; and especially interested in the impact of the Blitz, bomb damage and the post war years.
Any steers as to books, articles etc would be much appreciated!
You have not mentioned the local companies name it may help if I knew this if you would like to email me at history@allsaints-fulham.org.uk I will see if I can offer more specific advice however in the meantime you could check our publications list and also try to search on AmazonFor general books about Fulham by Barbara Denny that you might be able to purchase or read at the local library or Hammersmith archives.
PS don’t forget to check background information
Page as well.
I was living in Sand End during the War and I can write to you about some of the Bomb damage in my area
Hello,
I would like to ask if you have any pictures around the 1940-60 period of Great Church Lane, Hammersmith. Also any knowledge of a Scrapyard around that area that was owned by Joe White. I would appreciate any information as I understand the whole area has been re-developed and there a no original houses on Great Church lane?
Kind regards
Graham.Boddy
Search at Hammersmith archives. If this was the time the gyratiry system was being developed there should be material/photographs available.
How lucky you were, I also met a Father who showed me those books, I was looking for information about my Grandfather and his family, the children all went to the St Thomas Church School but didn’t offer to photocopy anything!!
C of E the church hall became the church
Hi, I’m trying to check if a photo exists of Maurice Childs, the man who ‘saved’ Hammersmith Bridge in 1939 by shoving an IRA bomb into the river.
My previous reply seems to have got temporarily delayed but you will find to reiterate the British newspaper library has newspapers online for 1939 with photographs of Boris Childs do an exec search with illustrations and you will find them I copy here information on voice for other interested readers from Hammersmith bridge by Charles Hailstone . Morris Childs the I immediate hero of the day said he felt the blast he had heard hissing from the suitcase and “I decided that the best place for it would be in the water”. he was honoured in many ways King George the six awarded him the medal of the civil division of the order of the British Empire for gallantry exchanged in 1941 for the George Cross . Hammersmith Council presented him with a clock and the LCC the sum of 50 Guineas . he received a silver medal and box from the Borough of Barnes which arrange the public dinner at the Bull East Sheen and there were numerous commendations including those from Parliament and the judiciary Morris Childs passed away aged 78 in 1975. The local individual authorities could also have more photographs of the actual events in their archives
many thanks
Hi there, I’ve been researching my great grandmother. She lived on Strode Road. She was at no 49 for a long time before the war. However, electoral rolls show her at no 50 after the war with houses 49-53 and 30-40 gone. On old satellite images we can see the gaps in the houses. The obvious assumption is that they were bombed but struggling to find any information. Do you have any information?
Hi, wondering if you could tell me what happened to Rock Avenue Fulham? My Nan lived there as a child, and I cannot find it on Google maps . Many thanks. She lived at no 13! Would love to see a photo or see the area she grew up.
Julie
One of our regular contributors posted this answer to a sinmilar question last year.
Mark Foulsham says:
11 November, 2019 at 11:09 pm
Melanie,
Rock Avenue, along with Heckfield Place, Walham Avenue and Lodge Avenue were part of the area known as ‘The Avenues’ that ran along the Fulham Road in what is now, primarily, the Lancaster Court Estate. The houses were considered slums so, in 1937, Fulham Borough Council decided they should be compulsorily purchased, demolished and the area redeveloped. Unfortunately, the Second World War spoiled that plan and nothing happened until after the war ended.
Many of the near 1500 inhabitants of the Avenues were rehoused in Fulham Court.
This link to National Library of Scotland shows a map of the period
Photos are probably only available from the archive at Hammersmith Library on a monday or tuesday or by email to archives@lbhf.gov.uk. There will be asmall charge.
Good luck
I have a relative at 13 Rock Avenue too, Last known date 1898.
My great great aunt had a hardware shop Blythe Road selling paraffIn /oil my elderly uncle called it the oil shop. They lived opposite the shop along Blythe Rd, Her surname was Lewis . He calmed the shop Lewis”s Would be approx 1940’s maybe earlier or a bit later .Sorry I have very limited info as only have 1 relatIve alive from that era would love to know more as I’ve looked online and can find no info
Thanks
My 2nd great grandfather Jesse Lambert was an oilman and lived, 23 Kingston Terrace, Blythe Road, Hammersmith in 1887. Maybe he traded with your relatives?
Looking for Graham Sunley
Can anyone help me. I’m trying to trace Graham Sunley, I use to Know him late 70’s early 80’s, in the Fulham/Hammersmith area. He use to work for my late father-in-law, I have something my father-in-law has left him, if anyone knows his whereabouts, could you please leave a message on my email and tell me what Grahams profession is so I know we’re have the right Graham Sunley he is a yorkshiremen.
Thanks D
Hiya I am just wondering about Stanley Road in Fulham and where it was as I cannot seem to find it. I have a few relatives that seemed to switch houses in the 1890s which makes me think it may have been lodging houses. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards Ms Stammers
Hi a quick check of old to new names shows it is now Michael Road see
https://www.google.com/search?q=michael+road+sw6&rlz=1C1EODB_enGB514GB521&oq=Michael+Road&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l7.2432j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
For further information LBHF Archives at Hammersmith Library is the best shot. Visit on a Monday or Tuesday when the archivist is there or email archives@lbhf.gov.uk.
Good luck with your search.
Hello, Keelie.
Stanley Road was renamed Michael Road in 1938.
My Dad was born in 72, Stanley Road in 1919. My Granddad, Nan and 5 kids were living in two rooms there. I’m pretty sure my Dad told me they were multi-occupancy houses for itinerant workers, My Granddad, his father, was a Senior Engineering Overseer on the project to build the second, ‘B’, Fulham Power Station. When Stanley Road became Michael Road the family moved to Fulham Court. The ‘B’ power station was finished in 1936 so, presumably the Stanley Road site was no longer needed for its original purpose and the power station site was expanded.
Yes St Augustines Church was Bombed in WW2 it is now a block of flats
Was it a Catholic church? St Augustine’s is where my grandmother and her siblings were baptised.
From my grandmother’s family research 1890 onwards I learned that there were only two Catholic Churches in Fulham area. St. Thomas’ Rylston Road area and St. Joseph’s in Brook Green.
In St. Thomas they have, in a cupboard, huge record books. On a visit to England I was lucky enough to bump into a Father outside the church. He kindly looked for my grandmother and photocopied her baptism certificate. It meant so much to all the family as she was brought up in a convent orphanage, only one known relative killed in WW1.
It was a C of E church and was our playground as a bomb site as kids in the early 1950s lived in Hartopp Avenue.
Hello Folks, Are there any pictures of the Coronation 1953 street party for Musard Road, Fulham. Thanks
Hi
As with your earlier query please visit or email LBHF Archives in Hammersmith Library on a Monday or Tuesday ( archives@lbhf.gov.uk ) they have a collection of photographs and press cuttings for most streets although not every event was captured.
Are there any photographs of the Mission church, that was at the corner of Moylan Rd, at the junction of Lillie Road, right opposite Sir John Lillie Primary School. I’m sure it was bombed during the war.
Bombsight – http://bombsight.org/#16/51.4832/-0.2103 confirms there were bombs in this area.
The quickest route for both detail and any possible photographs is to visit the LBHF archives in Hammersmith Library on a Monday or Tuesday or by email to archives@lbhf.gov.uk. If you are in the east of London then a visit to the London Metropolitan Aarchive would also provide detail of bombing. Their holdings are catalogued online – https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/Pages/default.aspx
Hello!
I am currently researching my family tree and am trying to find the father of my great grandmother, Hilda Alice Hunt who was born in 1893. Her mother’s name was Ann Elizabeth Hunt. There is no father named on her birth certificate but her place of birth does appear: 32 Vanston Place, Fulham.
An internet search has showed me this is now a Mediterranean restaurant but I have been unable to find any historical information on the building or its residents.
I know that Ann lived in various parts of London working as a domestic servant in the years before she had her daughter and would like to find out more about the history of the building.
I’d be very grateful for any information or advice you could give to help me with my research.
Amanda
In 1891 and 1895 the property was listed as a dwelling house with John Walker on the electoral register.
Looking in the LBHF photo archive for Vanston Place I found a couple of pictures of the building showing a shop front Walker’s Fisheries with 2 floors above. Suggest you visit on a Monday or Tuesday the LBHF archive at Hammersmith Library or email archives@lbhf.gov.uk Quoting reference F918.5VAN. There will also be directories and maps you can look at.
Hope this helps.
Thank you so much for this!
I don’t live anywhere near Fulham so making a trip down there will be tricky but I will try emailing the library as you suggested.
Dear Sir/Madam,
I would like to know if house at 63 Chesson Street today is the same house as the one at 63 Chesson Street in 1896? As I am aware that house numbering sometimes do change over the years. Are there any resources at the H&F Library regarding 63 Chesson Road over the years going back to the 1890’s?
Thanks,
Ian
Hi
I was wondering if anyone can help. I’m looking for any information on Alice James formerly Pinion. She was killed on 10 May 1941 during the blitz aged 36. I believe she was living at 10 Dimsdale Road at the time.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Alice Isobel James is named on the CWGC list of civilian dead for 10 May 1941:
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3128506/james,-alice-isobel/
My son is buying 57a Sulgrave Road. Can anyone help us with photo’s, builders plans etc that show the house.We have nothing before 1986 so anything would be useful and the older the better! Thanks!
Hi
If he goes to the LBHF Archives in Hammersmith Library on a Monday or Tuesday he can then see the collection of photographs which cover most streets in the 60s but there may be others too. If you are lucky there may be a drianage plan for any changes at the site. These often have building layouts and detailed drawings. They have to be ordered from storage so would be available the following week.
Census and electoral registers will also show who lived there in the past. Local maps will give an idea of when the roads were laid out for building. The LCC Street index also gives all the information about when the road was approved and any name changes. There may also be aerial photos.
Good luck
The council planning site is always a good place to start.this house and number 59 has a very long history of development as a HMO..the archives should have hard copies of planning decisions, that may predate the web records.
I am looking for information on Star LANE. Was this later Star Road? Records state Fulham Kensington so I am guessing W.14. There was a Star Lane school, Hammersmith Archives apparently have records from 1897. If there are earlier records where would I locate for this school? Thank you.
Star Lane Fulham W14 Star Road @ 1884 yes see Bruce’s lists
Hi I’m trying to trace a record of my great grandmothers death. She was called Catherine Mary Knight (nee Tyler) of 10 Southerton Road Hammersmith, born in 1875. Wondered if anyone can help or direct me?? Thanks
JOHN VINCENT WHITESIDE aka Jack Stephen Whiteside. I am researching the life of a former silent movie actress. I believe that Mr Whiteside, late of Poplar Grove and Askew Crescent could help me. Does anyone recall Mr Whiteside or know how or whether he can be contacted? In 1995 he practised as a homeopath.
I am researching Alice Emma Worby she was a Jobbing Decorator from Wansdworth st. area just like Matilda Worby ?
Dear Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society,
I am trying to do my family tree with very little information, my Grandad Edward James M Simmonds or Burns born 1889 apparently had hotels in Fulham that were bombed in the second world war.
Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards
Julia McKernan
An Edward James Burns lived at 1 Pellant Road according to the 1939-1940 Kellys local directory. and a E.J. Burns and sons were located at 190 and 179 Lillie Road and are listed as furniture dealers..could be useful if one needed to furnish lodgers rooms.
the area around Pellant road i redeveloped with post war high rise blocks..which would rather confirm the bomb statement.
Thank you for that, that helps me greatly.
I am looking to get hold of a copy of the survey of headstones done on St Paul’s Church prior to their clearance for a report I am writing. Do you know where I could get hold of one? A digital copy would be of particular interest.
Many thanks
Mark Gibson
Contact the church in the first instance. I would think that a church faculty would have to be approved as bodies would have to be reburied in East London. The Hammersmith archives should have council deliberations and planning reports as well as minutes. Check National archives and LMA online catalogues as well.
Hi, I’m Charli.
I work for a Hammersmith based company called Wishful Thinking, developing new original musicals.
One of our shows, ‘Tumbledown’ is set in Fulham Court in the 80s and loosely based on both their local band ‘The Faith Brothers’ and the campaign to save the estate from being sold off to the council.
In order for us to gleam the most accurate image we can, of both the residents and the estate itself at the time, would you have access to any anecdotes / news articles / pictures from then (late 70s – 80s), or know where I’d be best to search for them?
Thanks so much!!
Charli.
Search BRITISH Newspapers online under “Fulham Court” there are many articles. You could also check council minutes and planning records for associated material. Archives should have photographs.
Hello- could you please tell me who the Suffragan Bishop of Fulham was in January 1954?
Many thanks and kind regards,
Revd. Trevor Harris
1949 1955 George Ingle Translated to Willesden
Hope this is right place …. do you – Fulham History Society – know anything about Walter Brothers, piano music publishers, etc., (also published an ocarina guide)? From 1916 – 1919 (at least) they were at 897 Fulham Road, SW6. In late 19th century they were at 7&8 Railway Approach, London Bridge. Keen to find music published by them, particularly work composed by Charles Seaton.
I notice you already have the Cordelia waltz, as featured in the Bromley newspaper etc, however if you search “BRITISH library music “ you can access their online catalogue and they have a number of works listed by Victorian songwriter Charles
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I am also interested in this location as it appears that four single Hunt aunts and uncles lived there at the 1901 census. Three were adopted as well as the oldest birth son James George. One Henry Botet Hunt is listed as a retired civil servant. James George’s Grandmother was a Seaton
Hello,
I was wondering if you might be able to help. My paternal grandmother lived in the Guivers cottages in Fulham or Hammersmith according to the 1911cencus. Do you know where they are or were?
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Thanking you in advance
Kindest regards
Garry
I was given a ‘golden nugget’ by my late mother which apparently was given out on the night either a new ceiling or new dance floor was revelealed in the 1950s at Hammersmith Palais. I would like to try and find out more about it?
I’m trying to find out some information about my grandmother’s mother, Ellen Anne Booker who lived at 10 Linver Road, Parsons Green in 1939. I know nothing about my grandmother’s side of the family and wonder if any of the family are still living in the area! My grandmother was Marian Shipham Booker and her father was William F. Booker. My grandmother married Edwin Chapman. Her brothers and sisters were Florence, Ellen, William, George and Emily. Thanks for any help, Sally
can anyone tell me how to find out value of a property (51 Fulham Broadway, London SW6) in 2005 and 2015?
Normally zoopla or nethouses prices offer an idea.
Try typing in 51 Fulham Broadway in google search as well.
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Can anyone help with a photo or information about 163 Fulham Road in the 1950/60’s. My grandfather Henry Goodwin was shop manager ( and we assume it was at this address) and it could be best described as being a hardware shop selling practically anything ( the Two Ronnies sketch ‘fork handles’ comes to mind). As children my brother and I used to visit our’ Auntie Maggie’ who also helped out in the shop.
It is also the address my mother is registered at on her marriage certificate to our father. Any help greatly appreciated.
As you probably know this is now the OKA store, but it is firmly in Kensington and Chelsea so probably best to contact their Local Studies and Archives. They should have local directories for the period and probably photographs. One of our browsers may know the answer too.
Good luck
I was just wondering who was living in coomer road at the time I lived there. I lived at number 80 from abou 1937 or 8. My parents lived there until it was demolished for Clem
Atlee. They moved from there to William Banfield house Munster road. I am now 86 years old and thinking back to the people who also lived an there at that time. I can recall one or two of them but would like to find out more
The Hammersmith archives will have the voters list covering this period
Hi. My dad James Wyse Polson was born in 1920 in castletown road. Think his mum was called Victoria maud polson. She was apparently a book keeper for an electrical company. Think she was a single mum so dad ended up living with someone else in Brighton. He went to boys brigade in Fulham. Desperate to find out anything. Would anyone k ow where I can find more info. Ruth
For info on eBay item number 293370707697 is an original JULY 1914 FULHAM PARISH MAGAZINE “ALL SAINT’S FULHAM”
Sorry just realised my reply went awol. Thanks for this info.
ASFulham has a good backfire of older magazines, as does the Hammersmith archives, However if anyone has any issues from 1919 to 1923 in another location/library the church would be pleased to hear from you. Thanks
What would have been the nearest laundry to Hatfield Street in 1911. My grandmother, and many of her neigbours worked in a laundry, so assume there was one nearby.
Would it be the Fulham imperial laundry
Hi Susan, I’m not sure where Hatfield Street was but I know growing up in Hartop Avenue Fulham in the 1940-50s there was a Laundry there.
If it is the correct laundry I have pictures of some of the staff I am a great great granddaughter of jessie Stephenson who owned the laundry I think it closed it the late 70
My family lived in various properties in Hatfield Street. What school would have been the closest that my GF would have attended as a young child?
A quick check shows there was a Hatfield Street in Deptford and there is a Hatfield Road in Ealing, just outside our boundary. It is of course possible that names have changed do you have any more detail of where it was? If it is Ealing then the Borough Archives should be able to help with maps and local knowledge. https://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/201244/local_history_centre/2416/local_history_resources/1
Meanwhile someone reading your post may have the answer.
Good luck
Hatfield Road terrace
Hammersmith & Kensington W11 & 10 Latimer Road # 1876 Hatfield Terrace
Hatfield Street was definitely in Fulham. I have a number of census material that shows my family lived in the area.
An electoral listing shows it came under the Margravine Ward (No. 3 Margravine District. My family are shown on page 124 of the 1914 electoral list. Also mentioned on the page is Greyhound Road, where my GGP’s moved to later in life.
Hi
Cannot find on OS maps of the period at Nattional Library of Scotland or in the University of Leicester’s online collection of street directories, so must be small. The area you mention is behind Charing Cross Hospital(Fulham Workhouse) and near Margavine Cemetery. Will have a look when next volunteering at the archive. That will be at least a weeks time but you could write direct to the archivist archives@lbhf.gov.uk and she will get a volunteer to see what there is. It would be useful to give the key names involved and the dates also what you are hoping to find.
Good luck
Hi, I was looking at Christopher Dresser. In 1862 he moved to 2 Myrtle Place on the North End road. I see in an 1860 map online that there was a school just to south and then Ebeneezer Place and chapel. I was wondering if there was any more information on the school.
Try browsing from this collection. This is a later directory and I cannot find the school.
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4/id/6770/rec/4
However if you get no further joy online suggest contact LBHF Archivist at Hammersmith Library on a monday or Tuesday or email archives@lbhf.gov.uk
Good luck
I am looking for information about Charcroft House, Roseford Gardens, Hammersmith, a home for “fallen” Jewish women. The information I am looking for is, residents in or around 1931.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Hi I am researching my family tree through my Great Grand mothers line. She was born Jane Tyson at 14 Fane Street. Her mother was Elizabeth Stanley and her Father Thomas Tyson. He is listed as a costermonger, they then had a shop at 1 Fane Street.
She married Frederick Flint but it appears soon left him for William Mullenger and went on to have three children including my grandmother Freda.
I am interested in Thomas Tyson father Henry, he seems to have been a bit of lad and a prize fighter. Does anyone have knowledge of Tysons in Fulham, Fane Street. They then all seemed to live in various flats Lillie Mansions. Any info would be great.
Hi I am told I am descended from Thomas hearse also known as the gypsy father of London from the potteries in Shepherd’s Bush but I really don’t know I was wondering if any of it was really true
Do you mean Thomas Hearne?
Hello,
I am looking for an advert or artical on The Olde Glasse Shoppe which was at 144 Lillie Road, Fulham SW6 and it was run by my Great grandfarther Augustus Samuel Jacks,
I don’t know the exact date but It would of been around 1905 – 1920
Would be amazing if you found anything on this for me
Kind Regards
Anthony Jacks
A quick look on line at: https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/London_Directories
I found directory for 1919 in the Leicester Uni Collection:
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4/id/28474/rec/7
There was no record for 144. Suggest have a browse earlier.
Also LBHF Archives have some photos and old directories that would be worth a search if you are local otherwise contact the archivist at archives@lbhf.gov.uk . Its possible there could be entries in the electoral register but you have probably already searched Ancestry of Find My Past, one of which should be in yor local library.
Good luck
Hi Anthony,
I have a photograph of one of their business cards given to me by my father. I can send it to you once I have your details.
Regards
Steve Sole
Have asked permission to pass on email.
I’m based in Inverness and not as mobile as I would like to be. I’ve been trying to build up a picture of a Jamaica-born Scot named John Hoyes (1806-1885), of Forres descent, and have found him associated with a kinship group including Edward Harwood among others (a relation of Hoyes’s wife, Julia Caroline Blair nee Blake, apparently of a Galway ascendancy family, the Blakes of Belmont, but apparently first resident in Somerset) concerned with the Bird’s estate in Fulham at the end of the 1850s. I’d be grateful for any sort of information about this, especially Edward Harwood himself. It would appear some sort of Trust was involved, and there were Chancery issues with land tenure, judging by Gazette advertisements of the time, but there appears to be very little publicly accessible information.
Hi Jim, I come from the Sands End area of South Fulham and recall the Harwood Road that ran from the New Kings Road to Fulham Broadway. I do not know anything about this road name but thought it might have a connection with your Edward Harwood.
Hi, I have been trying to research my family that lived on Rock Avenue in 1922. I con not find Rock Avenue now and the family falls off the records for the 1939 census – was Rock Avenue changed its name? Thank you
Melanie,
Rock Avenue, along with Heckfield Place, Walham Avenue and Lodge Avenue were part of the area known as ‘The Avenues’ that ran along the Fulham Road in what is now, primarily, the Lancaster Court Estate. The houses were considered slums so, in 1937, Fulham Borough Council decided they should be compulsorily purchased, demolished and the area redeveloped. Unfortunately, the Second World War spoiled that plan and nothing happened until after the war ended.
Many of the near 1500 inhabitants of the Avenues were rehoused in Fulham Court (built before Lancaster Court) so you might find them living there in the 1939 Census.
Hello – looking for any information on a General Store possibly sited at 54 Estcourt Road, Fulham, owned and run by the Bravo family, 1920-1923
Hi, I think my two aunts had a tobacconist store there, they were Bravos. The whole family was in and around that area.
Looking for a TV interview possibly with Alan wicker about residents of church path /lillie walk fulham being rehoused after the war many of my relatives lived there
Hi I have an antique floor standing woodworking band saw which has ‘lewis&lewis london’ on its frame. I have found out that they were based in Wandsworth Road, Fulham but can find no further information on this item.
Does anyone know if the company still exists under a different name?
Any help would be great.
Thanks, Steve.
My Uncle recently passed away and I am now in possession of some of his items. One of which is a Brown salt glazed flagon with ‘George Pike wine and spirit merchant 98 Borough Fulham and wondered if you knew anything about where it came from. It’s an amazing object and would like to know more about where it would have come from if anyone could help?
Many Thanks
Chris
Hi There is a George Pike at 118 Broughton Road, Fulham on the 1939 Register available on Find My Past website. He was born 1872. Also at same address is Emma C Pike born 1864 and two others who are ‘locked’ information. I hope this is helpful especially as ‘Borough’ could be ‘Broughton’ Road.
Lesley
Hi Chris I think I made a typo on my email address. This one is correct.
Lesley Bairstow
Do you have any information about Hurlingham Lodge when it was used as a hostel for tuberculous patients? It was opened by Lord Woolton in 1946, but disclaimed from the NHS in 1948. It was in use as a TB hostel until at least 1968. Do you know who was running it (? Red Cross) and when it finally closed?
Many thanks,
Veronika Chambers
Hello, I have come across a birth record for Hammersmith in 1981 where the record has a handwritten addition in biro at the bottom of the page. I cannot find any other records that include these people/details. What does it mean when a record is added by hand? Thanks
Good morning,
I have a street plaque from the 1930s (but pre WW2 for sure) with Borough of Hammersmith – Boxmoor street W11.
By any chance do you know where the street ? by The Boxmoor House near Holland Park borough?
Hope you can help ? that would be fantastic.
Best regards
F Blondel
Hi Frederic, just came across your query, and happy to help. My dad grew up on Boxmoor Street before it was demolished (in the sixties) for the new estates. The street was north west of the current Shepherds Bush roundabout. Their house at the end of the street backed onto the railway line.
Correction, north east corner!
Hello,
this is very helpful and very kind of you. It helps me a lot. Really: thank you )))
By any chance, do you know / have a link to a 50s street map ?
Fred
Sorry, I don’t have any old maps.
Surprised to see it was in Hammersmith borough, assumed Notting Dale was Kensington. Let me know if you need any more info.
John
Good evening
if you use http://www.maps-of-london.com
you can access to 1940 streets map for whole london and you can select specific areas
can you find boxmoor street ? i can’t ((((
Can’t find on north east of shepherd’s bush roundabout….
It should be on the SW corner of map 63, but the map cuts off! I’ll try to find a map showing Boxmoor – it ran east-west off Norland!
John
John, I think I have found it. I have saved the map. As I cannot send docs from this website, can I send them to you by email ? mine is fred.blondel@orange.fr
Yes please! I’m johncpinder@btinternet.com
Hi,
I’m currently doing some research relating to my great grandmother, Evelyn Emily French 06/05/1886
We know she was given to an orphanage in the Shepherds Bush/Hammersmith area around 1889-1891. We cannot find any records of her and would absolutely love to know more about what happened to her. Can you refer to anyone/organisation where we could search for more information.
Thank you so much for any help you can give us.
Kind regards, Emma
Is she in the 1891 census, born 1886 Kilburn, living in Battersea with widowed father?
Then is she in the 1901 census living in Camberwell with her uncle and aunt, Edward and Eunice Howard?
I’m trying to find information in regard to a Norma Coleman who worked in Hammersmith as a secretary around 1967. Very vague, I know, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Have you got any photograph of William Parnell
House Bagleys Lane SW6.
I Lived at no 89 in the 70s with my parents and wanted to have something to look back on.
Kind Regards
You should email archives@lbhf.gov.uk as they have an extensive collection of photos of the borough.
There will be a small charge and they could email or send hard copy if you explain exactly what you want.
Hi Hameed, Just to let you know there are several Facebook Groups for Fulham who will have photos of what you probably recall as ‘Pineapple Lodge’ in their Files and possibly former residents as members.
Hello
I was wondering how old Pankhurst house on du cane road is w12 0un?
Many thanks
Diaco
I’m researching Fulham Brass Band’s history in preparation for our 125th anniversary next year and am looking for more details about the original band in 1895. We’re led to believe the original band were bricklayers and I’d love to know more about them – unfortunately the local press at the time has limited info on the occupations of members.
Im also trying to track down Anita Brewer who was our first female member in 1958. She was 24 at the time and lived in West Norwood and we’d love to make contact again ignore possible.
If anyone has any information on the history of the band in general that would be great.
Thanks
Dear FHHS
The late sixties photographer, Terence Donovan, had a shop called the Merchant Chandler on the New Kings Road. I am trying to find out which door number it was.
Yours sincerely
Lisa Wood
Post Office Kellys London should have a listing for the Merchant Chandler. I think it was round about number 72 New Kings Road. Old voting lists will have the residents names if Terence lived above the shop . The present No 72 has a wire frame work in front of the windows on the upper floor, this may have bee where the MC hung its baskets from
It was definitely no 72 There is a mention of some items available for sale in the column in anewspaper that can be found online using the British newspaper library.
I wonder if anyone has any information regarding my late Fathers uncle, the Hammersmith born wrestler, Chick ‘Cocky’ Knight, born Arthur Richard George Knight of 10 Southerton Road, London, W6, on 17 February 1903.
It has come to light in research that I am doing for a book on his life (Chick was a bit of a local celebrity) that he rescued 2 people from the Thames off Barnes on afternoon of 15th June 1930 by jumping into the water and pulling them out one at a time.
We have a certificate verifying this incident from the Humane Society and wondered if anyone has any more information/press cutting etc. I have also been in touch with the Mayor and Town Hall.
Hi
Does anyone know about the Lambert family or Lowe who lived in Hammersmith maybe south street in the 1900 -1950 Thank you
I’m researching the architect Randall Wells who lived at 52 Upper Mall between 1927 and 1942. Also his daughter known as Rosebud or Crystal (1917-1941). She had married Hamilton Johnston (b.1915) who lived on the barge Nell Gwynn moored at Hammersmith, but she was killed in a train accident at Brentwood Essex a few weeks later. He may have lived on the barge into the mid 1950s. Please does anyone have any leads or information on any of them? Many thanks.
HI, Ive recently obtained the title register for 37 Epirus Road, Fulham, where my great grandmother lived with her family for more than ten years. Ive always been puzzled as to how they were able to live there as mother was single parent throughout, no father named on any childrens births, mother gives ‘own means or no occupation’ on all documents and they also change there name at one point. Something is amiss I feel? But anyway, my query relates to a covenant that appears in the sale of the property when my family sell it in 1904. It says ‘ the purchaser will not carry on upon the premises the trade of beer seller, innkeeper or retailer of wines and spirits’. Would this be a normal covenant for that time period or does this suggest that the premises had been used for the sale of alcohol previously?
Any ideas and thoughts welcome
Many thanks Nicki
Hi
With regard to the covenant about beer wines and spirits this is quite common in Victorian deeds, we have had the same in an East London property and in other towns in England. It probably relates to the general crackdown on boozing at that time.
Hi
Looking for any history regarding current Abingdon Road number 3, previous Newland Road, Kensington, W8
This is very definitely in Kensington and Chelsea. Suggest you contact LBKC via
https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/libraries/local-studies-and-archives/local-studies-and-archives.
Good luck
Hi
Looking for any information and/or pictures of Alfred and Elizabeth Jones (also had a son called Alfred) who lived at Greyhound Road Fulham. I believe their Pawnbrokers business was at the same address.
This would have live here between 1890 – 1920’s. Elizabeth dying in 1927 husband and son dying some 10 years earlier.
Any help would be appreciated.
I wonder if any of your members can help, on the marriage certificate for William Ernest Brockway (1913 in Fulham) he resides at Rowton House, Hammersmith and he gives his occupation as an interpreter. Whilst I know Rowton house was at this time a workhouse I presume William was working (and living) there. does anyone have any further information.
Looking for relatives of Martin family who lived at various times(census) at 16, 23 and 31 Sandilands rd, Fulham.
Re above entry – Leonard and Ivy Turner living Gunerstone rd on 1929 register, Ivy Elizabeth (born 1909) maiden name Martin,Any idea how to find out if they had children and when married?
Grateful for any help!
Does anyone remember the off licence in Overstone Road Hammermiyh London W6?
Or do you remember the Stockly family from Hammersmith?
Correction for spelling
STOCKLEY
My ancestors (Boosey) are shown in the 1861 Census as living at No. 11 Back (sic) Gardens (Shepherds Bush) in the district of St Paul’s Hammersmith. I can’t trace this place and in the vicinity are Alfred Row, Wellington Place, Frog Island and a coal wharf as well as the Mail Coach (I presume not the one at 28 Uxbridge Road which was built in 1932). I wonder if these places are off the old Hammersmith Creek now under Furnival Gardens. But this was said to go north as far as King Street whereas Shepherd’s Bush is further north(?). I can’t find any detailed maps of this area. My ancestor was William Boosey, a BRICK LABOURER, and I note a few brickfields on the maps I do have. (The Booseys came up from the Medway where they worked in brick, cement, mud, etc.). I was actually born in Hammersmith Hospital and spent my childhood in Harlesden so we stayed in the same area.
Do anyone remember a shop called the Merchant Chandler, on New King’s Road, near Parsons Green? About early 1970s. It was a hardware shop. I remember it put buckets and baskets in the pavement. Any pics? Thank You.
Yes! Didn’t it have a spiral staircase. I was only about 11 when we left Fulham but my Mum loved that shop. Sorry no pictures although I’m sure we still have things from there!
Susie
Hi, my parents owned s. Holland and sons greengrocers on greyhound road and my grandparents before that, name of divine and I wondered if you had any information or photos that could help my research.
Hi, I have recently been talking to my mother about her early days in Hammersmith, she has been telling me how she was evacuated during WW2 to somewhere in Hampshire. She went to Brackenbury Road school and I believe that the children were evacuated by school. I would like to find out more for her as a little walk down memory lane. Is there a national index that I could search?
Regards
Kevin
My father went to Brackenbury Road school but was older than your mother. He was born in 1916. I have written his biography. I have a photo of the school. If you’d like a copy send me your email as I don’t think I can put photos on this page.
Stephen, just seen your note re Brackenbury . My mother was born in 1912 and went to that school. If you can email me a copy photo of the school that would be great. I have been trying to see if the school logbooks and attendence registers for the period 1917-1927 were known to be about somewhere and also leaving certificates.
Thanks
Brian
Have put both parties in touch
National archive has records of Brackenbury school. Check website.
Finding records from the Second World War is complicated because no central government files were kept (no official records were created during the First World War as evacuations were arranged individually by families).
Evacuation plans had been prepared well before the outbreak of the Second World War, and an evacuation policy was soon established by the government. Small scale evacuations of women and children took place at the height of the Munich Crisis in September 1938, but the major evacuation began in September 1939.
The government had planned to evacuate about 3,500,000 people but in fact only 1,500,000 made use of the official scheme. Almost all had been evacuated to the reception areas by the evening of 3 September, a few hours after the official declaration of war.
It may help you with your research if you can find out:
the name of the evacuee’s school
where they were evacuated from and to (see the Appendix at the foot of this guide for a list of evacuation areas)
when they were evacuated
Online records
Search the 1939 Register for England and Wales at Findmypast.co.uk (£) for evacuees and their helpers – search for ‘evacuee’ in the Occupation field. The mass evacuation of children and other vulnerable people took place in early September 1939, before National Registration on 29 September that year. As a result, many evacuees appear in the register.
Individual records will only be open if the person is now deceased, but if the evacuee is still alive they can request a transcript of their own record. See our research guide on the 1939 Register for more information.
There are no lists or registers of evacuees available online.
This is from the National archives website.
My mother was evacuated first to Newbury in Hampshire, before being transferred to Pntypridd in Wales. She and her sister were both evacuated to Newbury, but only my mother was evacuated to Wales, presumably leaving her sister behind at the house in Newbury. They lived in Western Avenue, not far from White City so they would not have gone to Brackenbury Road school.
John Turner says:
14 August, 2019 at 4:54 pm
Hello there,
Many thanks for your help in researching the lady who died at parsons Green Station I will do as you suggest regarding access to the newspaper articles.
I’m trying to find out why she was travelling from her home in Newport, Monmouthshire, with her 12 year old daughter when this happened.
I’ve found that her dead husband’s brother, Jabez Wallis, was a metropolitan police constable living in St Marylebone (from 1911 census age 37), I can’t be sure of his full address.
The police records shows he left the police force age 46,.
“Jabez Wallis, warrant number 80242. Joined on 11 Feb 1895, and left on 8 March 1920. Last posted to T Division as a PC”.
Can you suggest any way of finding out what happened to him after leaving the police force and the tragic event of his sister in law dying at Parsons Green Station?
He died in 1941 in Tonbridge, Kent aged 67.
Again thank you, your help is very much appreciated.
I’m trying trace my great grandparents, john henry Smith married to katie smith, children lillian and charles. Last known address 7 Dalling road in the 1911 cencus. Lillian later married into the Hand family, I cant find anything about her.
was it No 7 Darlan Road Fulham. One side of this road was demolished between 1950’s? to build Lancaster Court. My Nan DaisyTyson neé Harnetty lived on this side and was move into a flat in Darlan Road.
Hi Julie. I am tracing my Family Tree for the Harnetty family maybe we could share notes.
Regards
Debbie Rayner Western Australia
I guess the Lilian was the wife of my grandfather’s brother (Arthur) George Hand then of Boscombe Road. My mother remembers the couple in her grandfather’s house there c1925. I have photos of them. George died in 1927 and Lilian remarried (twice) – I have details. A son Ernest, a pilot, was killed in aircraft accident at Heathrow in 1968. Contact me at paksaunders.t21@btinternet.com for more information.
I am looking for help with a place name rather than a specific person. The wife of my 2nd great-uncle is listed as enrolling in Saunders Road School in 1885. Not transcribed in the Ancestry record but found in the image of the handwritten register her and her sister’s home address was Henry Place, Hammersmith.
https://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/Streets/Old_to_New_Abolished_London_Street_Names.htm#H shows that Henry Place was renamed Boxmoor Street before 1912.
All searches for Boxmoor Street, Hammersmith fail to find any records of the place.
Also was known as Beaumont Street W11, so on the borders by North Kensington
Hello Martin,
I too am looking for information about Saunders Road School. A great-grand aunt was enrolled in the school in 1889, and I’d like to understand more about the school. She was not enrolled under her parents’ names so I’m curious to know more about the school.
Thank you.
A single index reference (via FamilySearch.org) for Agnes Newland in the 1881 England & Wales Census: Fulham, London, Middlesex, England, lists her age as 2 years, with the Residence Note: Coomer Rd. Her relationship to the head of household is daughter, but no parent is listed! Do you know what facilities were located on this road at that time that would be housing/caring for a child?
Thank you. -Ron Newland
Hello Ron
1881 Census
Agnes Kate Newland born 1878 Fulham living with parents Charles and Kate and sister Elizabeth.
Need to use Ancestry either by subscription or use at library.
Agnes is also found in the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses.
Can you tell me the name of the family who lived at 5 Southcombe Street, Fulham in 1912 please?
Chris, I believe Southcombe Street may have been known as Devonshire Street at the time of the 1911 Census and at that time, living at number 5 were three families – Stevens, Watson and Rollings.
Chris, I imagine you’re interested in the Watson family members and they were John, his wife Joana , 2 daughters – Winifred and Ellen and a son – David.
I’m interested in speaking to an expert in the history of White City. Is anyone able to help me with this?
regards
Daniel Thornton
You need to try to contact Donald Knight who wrote a book on the White City and is an expert on the subject.
Our Chairman will also be in touch.
I am intetested on information pertaining to a business which produced copper engraving plates which were manufactured by Hughes at 8 Peterborough Ct. Fleet Street London. I am in possession of an engraved currency plate with 4 individual denominations that were engraved for the Lewiston Bank of Pennsylvania USA. The reverse side of the plate is stamped with the Hughes name and address. I have backtracked the production date of the blank plate from between 1825-1838 as it appears that is when the Richard Hughes entity resided at the 8 Peterborough Ct. Fleet St. address in London. Thanks for any information you might be able to provide about this entity.
What if any is the connection with Hammersmith and Fulham? Suggest you contact City if London Libraries
My MD order of the building number 63 67 and 65 I would like to have information About the right of way from the time the building was the building was built if there’s any information about regarding this and other issues on this rebuilding please let me know thank you very much for your information
I am sorry but you haven’t given enough information for anyone to understand your question. However if it concerns rights of way, even historic, you should write to LBHF or ring their planning department on 020 8753 1081
Good luck.
Am looking for info on Ivy Elizabeth Martin, born 1909 in Bristol to Albert Edward Martin and Ellen Abbott Martin. He was in the Royal Navy and his parents lived in Fulham.His father was Phillip Martin, a commissionaire.Albert served in both wars, service number 223669 and received a DSM.The family lived at 23 and 31 Sandilands rd at different times,Ivy was in Bristol in 1911 census then ? what happened as my grandmother went on to live in Wales and had first of another 7 children.No one knows any thing about Ivy.Did find prison entry for her in 1932 ,Holloway for 6/12 for larceny.Also mentioned in Western daily press in 1928.Her address was stated as 16 Sandilands rd, Fulham – same rd as her fathers parents.It has been suggested that on 1939 register she was living as Ivy Turner in Gunerstone rd Fulham with Leonard Turner and working as a waitress.. Any help gratefully received so we can solve this family mystery.
Still hoping for some help in pointing me in the right direction.
Hello Elizabeth
Is your grandmother Ivy Elizabeth Martin?
Ivy Elizabeth Martin
Born 1910 Jan-Feb-Mar Bristol
Do you know Ivy’s birthday, do you have her birth certificate?
Western Daily Press 1928 what is the story, Ivy would be 18
Holloway Prison 1932
Marriage? Do you have certificate?
Death? Do you have certificate?
Ivy Children
Do you have full names, birth dates, birth places, father’s name(s) there may be baptisms with more information, do you have their birth certificates, what is the information on the birth certificates?
When did Ivy’s parents and grandparents die, there are several possibilities in the Fulham and Bristol areas, you would need to order the certificates to know if they are correct certificates as ‘best guesses’, did they die when Ivy was quite young and she either went into a children’s home or they died when she was a young woman?
Where are children in the 1939 national register?
Ivy Parents
Albert Edward Martin and Ellen Abbot Payne marry in 1909 Bristol
Albert Edward Martin, found in 1911 census on boat Sapphire in Devon as seaman, looks like died Bristol 1945, can you use Albert’s maritime records to see if he was posted to Wales?
Ellen/Nellie Martin, found in 1911 census in Bristol as Nellie with Ivy, Nellie being the Irish nickname for Ellen, when did Ellen/Nellie die?
Ivy Paternal Grandparents
Phillip Martin, commissionaire, looks like died 1930 Fulham
Elizabeth Martin, looks like died 1935 Fulham
Living in Fulham 1911
Ivy Maternal Grandparents
James John Payne, seaman, death date unknown but wife is a widow by 1901
Emily Mary Payne, 1901 census Emily is a widow living in Bristol, looks like died in 1905 Bristol
Ivy Elizabeth Turner in the 1939 national register was born 13 December 1909 so may not be her, do you know Ivy’s birthday? Could be using a false birthday or mistakes were made with birthdays.
Where are her children? Can you find her children in the 1939 national register?
As not limited just to Fulham, the WDYTYA forum could also help
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/
Hello Elizabeth
On reflection, there are 42 days to register a birth, so Ivy Elizabeth Turner could be her.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Register_Office_for_England_and_Wales
Do you know anymore about Leonard H Turner?
Thank you so much.
Ivy is not my grandmother, that is Ellen Abbott Hopkins(Payne then Martin). Ivy would have been a half aunt. Ivy was born on 13/12/1909 in Bristol, I have the birth certificate.After 1911 census can find nothing connecting her to my Grandmother Nellie(Ellen).I would like to know what happened to her after that,Nellie went to live in Maesteg,S.Wales with my Grandfather Thomas Hopkins and they had the 1st of 7 children in 1916. My mother was the youngest born in 1931..Nellie eventually married my grandfather in 1946 in Bristol (they were living in Wales at the time) He died in 1948.Everyone assumed that they were married in about 1915.It wasn’t until I started researching the family tree that this secret came out Nobody knew about Ivy or the previous marriage.
I have no marriage or death cert for Albert or Ivy and don’t know dates of either.Western Daily Press in1928 said that the arresting policeman had known Ivy since she was a child and would come to a bad end.She was in Fulham at the time. I have no knowledge of any children Her parents were Albert Edward Martin,26/1/1886 and Ellen Abbott Payne 2/6/1886. I have copy of cert..
On 1939 register Ivy Elizabeth Turner has correct DOB -13/12/09. Can’t find any trace of marriage though..Where did you find Albert’s death?
As you suggested I will contact website.Would really lke to know if she had any children and what happened to her after 1911 as I can’t imagine my grandmother abandoning her child
.
Help please.
I am trying to find if there is any surviving information in local newspapers about the inquest into the death on a train, from Newport in Wales to London, of my wife’s grandmother. We have the following on the death certificate:
Inquest for: Ellen Mary Wallis
Age at death: 54
Date of inquest: 23 August 1926
Date of death: 19 August 1926
Place of death: Parsons Green Railway station
Living at time of death: 39, Capel Street, Newport, Monmouthshire
Informant: Dr. W B Purchase, Deputy Coroner for London, inquest held 23 August 1926
Any help would be appreciated
Thankyou
John Turner
West London Observer for the 27th of August 1926 has a brief account of the incident saying that the lady who was married to a diver was helped off the train at Parsons Green but died before help could be given
Brilliant! Thank you so much.
Is there any way I can get a copy of this?
thank you
John
This article and there may be more items,like a death notice etc In other local newspapers, I have not checked further . They will be available online to print off from the British library newspaper archives . it is worth purchasing a one month subscription to be able to print off and download the item and seeing what else you can find yourself. An unlimited one months sub only costs £12.95.It’s amazing what you can find. Try a simple search before subscribing I think you will be able to
Hello there,
Many thanks for your help in researching the lady who died at parsons Green Station I will do as you suggest regarding access to the newspaper articles.
I’m trying to find out why she was travelling from her home in Newport, Monmouthshire, with her 12 year old daughter when this happened.
I’ve found that her dead husband’s brother, Jabez Wallis, was a metropolitan police constable living in St Marylebone (from 1911 census age 37), I can’t be sure of his full address.
The police records shows he left the police force age 46,.
“Jabez Wallis, warrant number 80242. Joined on 11 Feb 1895, and left on 8 March 1920. Last posted to T Division as a PC”.
Can you suggest any way of finding out what happened to him after leaving the police force and the tragic event of his sister in law dying at Parsons Green Station?
He died in 1941 in Tonbridge, Kent aged 67.
Again thank you, your help is very much appreciated.
In the 1911 Census my great grandfather William Masson was a Landscape Gardener living in Parsons Green Lane Fulham with his family. He was born in Anchterliss, Aberdeenshire in 1855. I hope that you may have a record of where he worked, presumably locally and any other information about him. I live in Melbourne Australia and would be very grateful for your help
Hi
We have no records but the following may help.
Free BMD shows that a William Masson of the right age died in Wandsworth in 1938. This is the next borough south of the Thames. BMD gives the quarter of the year so you could look further in Ancestry to get a date.
If you get a date of death you could search local newspapers online for an obituary.
The next port of call would be an email to our local archives on the offchance there is a record of landscape gardners in Kellys Directory for the prewar period.
Good luck
We have an early gardener in James Lee, who had the Vineyard Nursery in Hammersmith; he died in 1795, but West London Nursery Gardens says that he had a friend in Francis Masson, the first collector sent out by Kew. a portrait of Lee by George Garrard and also Masson were owned by the Lee famiily. the second James Lee was 41 when his father died, and he wrote a letter to Sir James Edward Smith recalling the death of Francis Masson in Canada sent here again by Kew to collect plants, having spent some 25 years in a hot climate for them for a pittance. Masson also gave Lee contacts in South Africa. Could this person have been an earlier relative of yours?
Hi, I have been researching some family history for a friend of mine. His only history of his father in WW2 was that he was in the Auxiliary Fire service.
I have seen the 1939 England and Wales Register on Ancestry that show “Lane, Stanley W.” working as a clerk and listed with 25 other men at Townmead School. All in the AFS. Would they all be living there ? of is it just their “work” address. Also in the end column it has A.F.S.B.302. do you know what that means. Do you know what they refer to, and are there any accessible records of AFC members?
I would be interested to know anything about the Townmear Road School AFC or concerning Mr Lane in WW2.
Than you
Chris Hardy
I believe tha local Archives may have some records but how much detail I am unsure.
Please email archives@lbhf.gov.uk . Perhaps some of our followers have relatives who were in the unit and may know more.
Good luck
Hi Chris, Your Townmead Road school was named Chelsea (Central) Secondary School when I attended it from 1957 to 1962. It had relocated from the original site in Chelsea near Lots Road power station. It may just be that it was used temporarily to house the WWII auxiliary fire service before the ‘new’ school took up residence? It was mainly a compilation of single storey buildings within a perimeter wall on the corner of Townmead Road and Bagleys Lane. It has now been demolished to make way for new residential development. Still remaining is part of the building I knew as the Dining Hall converted to Apartments. This is in Townmead Road itself.
Hello, searching for information about my great grandmother who I believe was at the Convent of the Good Shepherd in Hammersmith as recorded in the 1881 census.Name of Anne or Annie Moroney, b. 1864 or 1865 in Limerick. Age 17 in 1881 census. How might I find more information about this? How she was sent there, when she was able to leave, etc? Thank you. Darla Farmer
Hi
I am researching the Irish photographer WD Hogan. I believe he moved to London and ran a photography business called London Daily Wedding Photo Service from Fulham Palace Road, London. Any information you may have would be greatly appreciated.
See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:W.D._Hogan
Hello, I was wondering if anyone would know if there are any old pictures/photographs of Archer Buildings, which were in Havelock Road, Hammersmith. Havelock Road is now Irving Road and I believe the building known as Grosvenor Court now stands on the site of Archer Buildings. Many thank, Christine
I have forwarded this enquiry to LBHF archivist who will be in touch if they have anything useful.
Hello
Not sure if you can help but my grandad and his brothers owned Simmons waste rubber yard on Chiswick high road, I was just wondering if you had any information on this, or could find out any about it. I know it’s not in Hammersmith but it’s not far and wasn’t sure if your team would know about it
Thanks
James
Hello Fiona
What was your grandmother’s name
The inquest may come up in the papers, others have
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
History
http://www.wendellparkprimaryschool.co.uk/our-school/history-1
Hello Susan
1927 DEATH
Name: Amy A Bell
Death Age: 31
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Kensington
1927 West London Observer – Friday 04 November
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19271104/156/0009
Husband and wife fight at home
1952 West London Observer – Friday 18 January
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19520118/139/0006
Partially blind woman killed at crossing
https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/family-tracing
Hello Alan
There are families on Ancestry to contact.
He died from sepsis from cellulitis after getting pricked at the end of an operation.
1920 West London Observer – Friday 12 March
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19200312/115/0007
I am trying to locate Paradise Cottages, Hammersmith, almost certainly in Paradise Row, Hammersmith. Also Paradise Place. All in the 1870s. It is possible that there has been a series of name changes or redevelopment. Any help appreciated.
Paradise row was to be found at the west end of Glenthorne road,running east west it ran behind the Ravenscourt Park underground station connecting to Ravenscourt road. There is a school on the site now.
This map may help.MAP
John
Thank you very much indeed. Most helpful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Spitalfields_Market
Hello Patricia
Hope this helps, sorry it’s sad news – we have no idea how people were living then, just about surviving and the shame they were made to feel about being poor and needing help.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20310/20310-h/20310-h.htm#Page_7
‘At the back of the Latymer Foundation, in Great Church Lane, is the Female Philanthropic Society. The object is for the reformation of young women convicted for a first offence or addicted to petty pilfering.’
http://www.victorianlondon.org/charities/charities.htm/a%3E%3B
‘Royal Female Philanthropic Society; 1822; Manor Hall, Gt. Church Lane, Hammersmith; For the reception of young women imprisoned for a first offence, or discharged from service for dishonesty, destitute young girls in danger of falling, and utterly untrained incapable girls.’
Best wishes
Lorraine, Orpington
Hello
What type of store was Lawsons? What road in?
Local archives will have the ARP reports about bombs dropped during the war and casualties.
Hello Lesley
They are definitely living at 692 Fulham Road in the 1957 London Electoral Registers. No adverts in the papers.
Hello Rodney
BOTTLE DIGGING UK ANTIQUE BOTTLE FORUM
http://www.bottledigging.org.uk/Forum/Topic259516.aspx?PageIndex=6
The National Filtered Mineral Water Works
1905 West London Observer – Friday 03 March
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19050303/090/0004
R Dean & Co
1914 West London Observer – Friday 06 November
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19141106/122/0006
Licenses transfers R Dean
Hello Stephen
Lots in the British Newspaper Archives
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=%22fulham%20brass%20band%22&phrasesearch=fulham%20brass%20band&retrievecountrycounts=false&sortorder=dayearly
Research each member
1901 census
1911 census
Word War One
1939 national register
World War Two
Hello Sarah
When London house prices were £350 in the 1930s
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/7480/economics/when-london-house-prices-were-350-in-the-1930s/
Hello Joy
Contact the palace about the knighthood may have information in their archives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_declined_a_British_honour
Hello Annie
What are their full names, birth years
What are their parents full names
Contact local archives
“ 20th Century Lives – Gladys and Len Lally, 1914 – 1998 ”
After 6 years, with help from several FHHS members, I have finished the biography of my parents who were brought up in Hammersmith before the war; Carthew Road and St Peter’s Grove. I have had 30 copies printed and one is in the LBHF Archives should anybody want to have a look.
The book describes their Hammersmith lives in some detail from their births in 1914 and 1916 until 1944 when my father was in the army and mother moved out to Eastcote. They went to school at Brackenbury Road, Wesken Central and St Peter’s. Their main churches were the South Street Mission and Albion Chapel. The book describes their home lives, leisure, holidays, careers and the war in Hammersmith.
The book is in a large hardback format with 400 pages and over 300 illustrations. It describes the lives of two Hammersmith people for 30 years. From humble beginnings they went on to achieve great things. If you’re in Hammersmith Library or Archives, do ask to see it.
Hello Lorraine
What are the full names of your 2 x great-grandparents?
What number Stanley Road for finding the shop?
Hello Beth
1952 West London Observer – Friday 18 January 1952
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19520118/139/0006
Partially blind woman killed at crossing
After attending blind people’s party
Hello Karen
1906 RSU SHAFTESBURY SOCIETY
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N13694972
Albert Johnson starts with society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragged_school
1911 CORONATION
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_of_George_V_and_Mary
Albert Johnson thanked by Ragged School Union Shaftesbury Society for five years faithful service with pocketwatch
Perhaps the national archives will have some details.
Hello Chuck
1848 MARRIAGE
Name: Sarah Gaish
Date: 27 Aug 1848
Place: Saint Paul, Hammersmith
Spouse: Isaac Issions
JOHN FREDERICK SYMES
1940 Sunday Mirror Sunday 04 February
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000844/19400204/252/0030
Poor but had a King’s doctor
Married at seventeen
1940 Fulham Chronicle Friday 09 February
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001984/19400209/061/0003
Hero of the Great War
Hello Brian
1928 West London Observer – Friday 19 April
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19290419/200/0012
Flat to let, three rooms, scullery, use of bathroom, geyser, electric light, Lloyd Bros, 17 Uxbridge Road
17 Uxbridge Road
https://www.google.com/maps/place/17+Uxbridge+Rd,+Shepherd's+Bush,+London+W12+8LH/@51.5055929,-0.2270225,3a,75y,186.24h,100.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skisjmZaPJSrEhA-8j_eZSg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760fd1c89d2b59:0xf7cae7707935a284!8m2!3d51.5054207!4d-0.2270855
History Of Bespoke Tailoring
https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/the-history-bespoke-tailoring/
Saunders Road School
https://www.theundergroundmap.com/wp/notting-hill-in-bygone-days-chapter-7/
Volunteer Centre could put you in touch with community groups who could help with your enquiry
https://www.facebook.com/HFVC.org.uk/
The volunteer centre could put you in touch with potential community groups who specialise in your enquiry
https://www.facebook.com/HFVC.org.uk/
As more and more records come online, try the genealogy sites or forums, such as Who Do You Think You Are.
If you can provide a full names/approximate birth years, e.g. father/mother, grandfather/grandmother to be able to trace your great-grandmother we can help with looking up.
You can never assume family stories to be accurate, or some end up being completely accurate, so I always start with researching just the full name, then the birth date, then the area, just in case the information provided is inaccurate – and sometimes the information provided is correct and sometimes isn’t.
Obtaining birth, marriage, death certificates as a starting point with the first generation then going backwards provides extra information and cross-referencing checks.
Thanks Lorraine,
From my fathers birth certificate he was registered in Chelsea North on 2/3/1923 as Kenneth Thomas Herbert Eaton dob 21/02/1923 mothers name Gertrude Eaton, no maiden name or father shown. Place of birth 369 Fulham road I.e. Fulham road Institution. He was Taken in by his adoptive parents at six weeks old before being legally adopted in 1927.
I found that the City of Westminster archive hold baptism records from the institution up to 1900 under St George’s Hanover Square, but have not been able to find any for 1923.
Any help gratefully received,
Kind regards Clive
Could it possibly be the other way round, taking photographs or artists illustrations for government to justify the slum clearances and for promoting slum tourism in the newspapers
https://www.historyextra.com/period/victorian/life-in-19th-century-slums-victorian-londons-homes-from-hell/
Hello Linda
So sorry to hear of your distress.
Have you ordered the death certificate, who was the informant, was there an inquest.
Couldn’t find anything in the papers now have a name to lookup.
Letter in the local papers could bring the news you need or these days community online groups to ask for information.
Ask the emergency services. If the death was suspicious ask the police.
Sorry can’t think of anything else, other than an expensive private investigator.
Hello Linda
Contact Fulham Birth, Marriage, Deaths Registration for death certificate
Contact Fulham Cemeteries Office for burial place
Help with living relatives, don’t know if they would help with dead relatives or could advise who to ask
https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/family-tracing
Unable to do any look-ups without a name and the genealogy sites only go up to 2007.
Letter in local paper in very recent memory if you give as much information that you possibly have: full name/nicknames, birth place, married/partner, children’s names if appropriate age, where living in area, job, friends, other family, hobbies, appearance
Hello Donna
Ask local archives
Were the buildings made from hamstone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamstone
Hello Peter
Contact Fulham Council:
Parks Department about the bench plaque
Cemeteries Office about the burial plot/headstone
1972 BIRTH
Name: Melanie Ives Hussall
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Hampstead
Mother’s Maiden Name: Hassall
1972 DEATH
Name: Melanie Ives Hassall
Birth Date: 1 Nov 1972
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: Greater London
Hello Joanne
Children would live in workhouse schools
Ellen is also taken into temporary care in 1901
1901 CHILDREN’S HOME
https://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/Stock-Images/Rights-Managed/MEV-10416084
Name: Ellen Daniels
Admission Age: 9
Admission: 29 Jun 1901
Admission Place: Hammersmith and Fulham
School: Marlesford Lodge
School District: Kensington and Chelsea
Father: William Daniels in infirmary
Mother: Alice Daniels in Queen Charlotte’s Hospital
http://branchesofmytree.weebly.com/100-ancestors/w127-from-the-poor-school-to-the-trenches
1911 CENSUS
Father William Daniels is a widower
His occupatiion is a cab dealer
Has been married 17 years, 7 children, 3 died by 1911
Ellen and Walter are living back home with him
Was it the birth of youngest child Dolly that killed mother Alice
Hello Anne
Fulham Local Archives will have ARP Air Raid Precaution reports from the wardens about the bombs that fell in your road.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Raid_Precautions_in_the_United_Kingdom
Hello Bryan
What a conundrum
Send an email to Fulham Local Archives, Stockport Local Archives and Stockport Cemeteries asking them to work together on this mystery with details of death registration/death certificate and newspaper articles.
Also send known facts about your great-grandfather
Birth registration born 1853 where
Occupation stonemason
Marriage/children
1901 census/details
1911 census/wife a widow/been in workhouse
1905 DEATH
Name: Thomas Alderson
Estimated birth year: 1853
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Fulham
1905 Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser – Thursday 02 February
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000206/19050202/124/0009
1905 Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser – Saturday 04 February
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000206/19050204/247/0020
We have a similar problem, a death certificate we believe to be of our great-great-grandfather
Man died in hospital in 1879, no informant/address to cross-reference, occupation fireman
Fire brigade had no details of him as a fireman, so as he died in the heart of the West End theatreland and the family were found to be theatrical, he could have been a theatre fireman, his wife was a widow in the 1881 census
Hello Jeremy
Our ancestor Albert Edward Court was the manager here in 1911.
In 1901 he was a private secretary, we think at the Empress Theatre as he lived in Lillie Road with his actress wife and in 1905 was Chief Of Staff at the London Coliseum.
History of Brook Green Skating Rink
Click to access Newsletter-19-Aut-08.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammersmith_Palais
Hello. I’m trying to trace records for Robert John Fryer, born July 28, 1947 to John
Henry Fryer and Lily Rosemary Weston who lived at 26 Ifield Road, SW10. I believe he died in the Chelsea area in the 1960s but I can’t find a death record. I was told he was found dead outside Chelsea football ground. Any help would be much appreciated!
Hello Sarah
1947 birth registration comes up
1966 marriage to Linda Kartrieber
1966-69/up to 2005 death nothing, very odd, ask the cemetery office, ask the football ground, nothing in the papers
Hi,
I wonder if you could help me trace any information regarding my gt,gt aunt. Her name was Rebecca Bustard (born 1879). She also went by the name of Rissie. She married an Austrian man named Jean Muller.I believe he was a hairdresser. She moved between Paris,London and Glasgow.They were married at the registers office in Fulham on 19th Oct 1907 and their address at the time was 23 Raleigh Road. The witnesses on their wedding certificate were Llew. Prichard and A.G Tiley.
She mentions in a Glasgow poor house document that she “worked as a sewing maid with Surollis or Surollio(?) in Good Street,London.” Do you know what this work place could be?
I’d really appreciate any help with this.
Thanks so much!
Lynne Bustard.
Could be Goodge Street. In Scotland they may have recorded it as Good Street. GOODGE
Thanks for this information! I’ll do some searching for Goodge St.
Lynne. 😀
Hello Lynne
The only information have been able to find is:
1901 WORKHOUSE
Name: Lilli Surelio born 1860
Record Type: Admission and Discharge
Admission Date: 11 Jan 1901
Admission Place: Holborn
Discharge Date: 12 Jan 1901
Discharge Place: Holborn
Name: Lillie Surelie born 1859
Record Type: Admission and Discharge
Admission Date: 12 Jan 1901
Admission Place: Holborn
Discharge Date: 21 Jan 1901
Discharge Place: Holborn
LADY’S MAID
Includes sewing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady%27s_maid
1907 MARRIAGE
Fulham marriage
Was anyone else living with Jean and Rissie at Rayleigh Road
1910 WORKHOUSE
Name: Henry Surillo born 1857
Record Type: Discharge
Discharge Date: 11 Mar 1910
Discharge Place: Westminster
1915 WORKHOUSE
Name: Rissie Muller born 1880
Record Type: Discharged To Infirmary
Discharge Date: 18 Feb 1915
Discharge Place: Kensington and Chelsea
Thanks so much for this information Lorraine! It’s really helpful. I always presumed Surollio was a place rather than an employers name but that totally makes sense. I don’t know if anyone else was living with them at Raleigh Road.
Thanks again!
Lynne. 😀
Pleasure Lynne
…and guess what, just realised Goodge Street is also in Holborn, Westminster area (same as workhouse records)
Goodge Street
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Goodge+St,+Fitzrovia,+London/@51.5195862,-0.1373853,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x48761b2bf7599739:0x95d153cfb299c76f!8m2!3d51.5195829!4d-0.1351966
Tried finding Henry and Lili in other documents but no joy, so this forum could help you next
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/
Hello Lynne
Lilli is not a woman but a man Gilli Surelis with further workhouse records that match ‘Lilli’s’
So was Rissie working as a sewing maid for a tailors in Goodge Street, what date would that be, what is the date/details of the Glasgow workhouse document. If you have a date could then try to find them in the Trade Directories. Such unusual names, not coming up on any other documents, aaaggghhh!
https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/93629-SEWING-EMPLOYER-GOODGE-STREET-LONDON?p=672411#post672411
Dear Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society,
I am trying to do my family tree with very little information, my Grandad Edward James M Simmonds or Burns born 1889 apparently had hotels in Fulham that were bombed in the second world war.
Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards
Julia McKernan
Hi Kim, Since i first posted that query I have found out quite a lot and traced a few relatives. My dad lived at 100 Rayleigh road, now Lakeside road until about 1930 when his mum an 3 siblings moved to Surrey leaving him behind in a home.I still haven’t found out why. Who was your grandfather?. There was George,James,Edward, Ernest, Arthur and 2 half brothers born in Surrey Peter and Walter.
Hello Kay
My great-grandmother had 7 children: 2 were already grown up, 2 old enough to stay at home with dad, 2 not old enough to stay at home with dad, 1 toddler who went with mum when she left home
The two adult siblings tried taking in the two younger boys but couldn’t because of affecting their work, like it affected their dad’s work, so they were put into care, they came home when they were older but were very badly affected by the experience their whole lives, low self-esteem, although they said they had enough food, clothes, beds and schooling while there
Do you know which home to contact where your dad stayed to ask the reason why he alone was left there
The Sisters Of Nazareth nuns in the Brecons were kind, as the Hammersmith nuns must have been, terrible reports at other orphanages
http://www.formerchildrenshomes.org.uk/nazareth_house.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Nazareth
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/apr/12/religion.childprotection
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/HammersmithNH/
Hi Kim, Since i first posted that query I have found out quite a lot and traced a few relatives. My dad lived at 100 Rayleigh road, now Lakeside road until about 1930 when his mum an 3 siblings moved to Surrey leaving him behind in a home.I still haven’t found out why. Who was your grandfather?. There was George,James,Edward, Ernest, Arthur and 2 half brothers born in Surrey Peter and Walter.
Hello Kay
Are you able to find the children’s home where your father was placed to find out why he alone was left behind.
hello Lorraine, I have only checked with Barnardos so far and they have no records. The relatives I have found have no knowledge of this other than the fact thatpart of the family lived in Surrey and the others in Shepherds Bush.I shall look into the links sent. Thank you
I am hoping someone may be able to help with some advice regarding the St James’ Diocesan Home, 484 Fulham Palace Road, Fulham SW6 ?
I am researching a woman who was there in 1881 (from the census) but can find no other records. I note that there are no children listed on the census yet many of the women may have been pregnant as was the case with the person I am researching.
I can find no record of a birth registration at the GRO or even a baptism. Where would any children have been born and or baptised?
The person I am researching in later censuses has her birth place as Queen Charlottes Hospital (near Euston at the time) which seems quite a distance from the home. Is this likely to be the case?
Many thanks
John Jay
Hello John
Magdalen Homes
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/MH7.shtml
Are you able to give the full names and birth dates of who you are researching to be able to help further
Hi Dieppe Street was demolished in the 1950s
It is a housing estate now in North End Rd W14
Hello Christine
59 WALHAM GROVE
https://www.google.com/maps/place/59+Walham+Grove,+Fulham,+London+SW6+1QR/@51.4817998,-0.1988799,3a,75y,135.97h,93.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slZ9hCigqX5HuuQa3JGGtXQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760f8539a2a007:0xc5968f93affea899!8m2!3d51.4817387!4d-0.1987023
Shows bomb damage/rebuild
Do you want to share your great-grandparents names?
Hello Donna
THE EUROPEAN MAGAZINE AND LONDON REVIEW
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Wu0RAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA371&lpg=PA371&dq=JOHN+HOLBROW+DYER+OF+HAMMERSMITH&source=bl&ots=-Y8HJhnvIR&sig=ACfU3U2XM4QqJFsV7btphWmBmMjarsbiwQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDl5aVoaPjAhX8QEEAHQBsDtMQ6AEwB3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=JOHN%20HOLBROW%20DYER%20OF%20HAMMERSMITH&f=false
Dissolution Of Partnerships
Prior J and and Holbrow J Hammersmith dyers
1846 LUNACY ADMISSION
Name: William Holbrow
Admission Date: 17 Jan 1846
Institution: Grove Hall, London
Death Date: 11 Jan 1848
Probably died of cholera
https://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/grovehall.html
1848 DEATH
Name: William Holbrow
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1848
Registration district: Poplar
1848 BURIAL
Name: William Holbrow
Birth Date: 1795
Burial Date: 23 Feb 1848
Burial Place: St Mary, Newington, Southwark
Why such a long wait for burial
Hello John
Is Ada Nellie Smith, maiden name? Who are her mother and father?
Is Ada Nellie Smith, married name? Who did Ada marry?
There is a Charles Smith living at 25 Overstone Road in 1920, is this Ada’s father, brother or husband?
1939 National Register can check on
Birthday if known helps
Hello Sophie
Crisp Road W6
No. 27 (former St. Mark’s Church)
Click to access Local_Register_of_Buildings_of_Merit_2015.pdf
27 Crisp Road
https://www.google.com/maps/place/27+Crisp+Rd,+Hammersmith,+London+W6+9RL/@51.4883328,-0.226861,3a,75y,102.97h,99.99t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sB2uhztQQtcI5MrNPV2ubRg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DB2uhztQQtcI5MrNPV2ubRg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D83.891754%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760fb12da1698b:0xe738f0b90a374436!8m2!3d51.4883312!4d-0.2267454
Mission Church of St. Mark, Hammersmith
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol6/pp16-32
Hello Chris
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=443884.0
Hello Carole
Charles Booth Survey
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/18/-0.2043/51.4895/100/0?marker=524751.0,178313.0
Shows Dieppe Street, says is now Dieppe Close
Mixed, some comfortable, some poor
1931 PASSENGER LIST TO INDIA
Minnie worked in service at 59 Dieppe Street until 1931, married Mr Seymour
This is Minnie living at 59 Dieppe Street leaving for Indian in 1931
Name: Minnie Newling
Age: 37
Departure Date: 2 Oct 1931
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Bombay, India
Ship Name: Strathnaver
INDIAN FAMILY HISTORY
https://www.fibis.org/
I believe Minnie married Mr Seymour in India as cannot trace a marriage in England/worldwide and Ancestry does not have Indian records
Hello Carol
Charles Booth Survey
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/18/-0.2043/51.4895/100/0?marker=524751.0,178313.0
Shows Dieppe Street, says is now Dieppe Close
Mixed, some comfortable, some poor
1931 PASSENGER LIST TO INDIA
Minnie worked in service at 59 Dieppe Street until 1931, then married Mr Seymour
This is Minnie living at 59 Dieppe Street travelling to India probably to marry Mr Seymour as can find no marriage for them and Ancestry does not have Indian records
Name: Minnie Newling
Age: 37
Departure Date: 2 Oct 1931
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Bombay, India
Ship Name: Strathnaver
INDIAN FAMILY HISTORY
https://www.fibis.org/
Will be able to help with Minnie and Mr Seymour
I am still trying to find information about the following school shown on the 1841 census. 1841 • School, St. Peter’s Square.Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
The school does not appear to have a name. it is headed by Maria and Susan ANDREWS, schoolmistresses and Maria CAPREN, governess. There are 11 pupils aged between 8 and 15 and two servants. My 3rd Great Aunt, Mary Ann Douglass aged 8 is there in 1841 census. What sort of school was it?
Hello Jennifer
1841 CENSUS
St Peter’s Square
Girls school
Maria CAPREN, governess
Research background of girls studying/boarding there
1851 CENSUS
http://www.clairegrey.co.uk/hogg_dearie_children/eliz_hogg/agnes_rough/agnes_hogg.html
36 St Peter’s Square
Girl’s School
Agnes Laurie Rough nee Hogg schoolmistress
Research background of girls studying/boarding there
1871 CENSUS
Miss Alice Fairman
18 St Peter’s Square
Mother Harriet Fairman involved in education
1881 CENSUS
1884 WEST LONDON OBSERVER
Miss Alice Fairman
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/18840112/009/0001
36 St Peter’s Square
Professional Vocalist
1891 WEST LONDON OBSERVER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/18910117/026/0002
36 St Peter’s Square
Girl’s School
Misses Barrett
Thank you for the above information.Mary Douglass was from Bethnal Green and her father was a silk weaver so it is a mystery to how she came to be at the school in 1841
Hello Jennifer
Charles Booth Survey
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/18/-0.2043/51.4895/100/0?marker=524751.0,178313.0
Shows Dieppe Street, says is now Dieppe Close
Mixed, some comfortable, some poor
Hello Teresa
Hope the Kensington & Chelsea local history society has been able to help.
If not, you need to give much more information, how old was Christine in 1940, where she was born, her parents names, how long she lived there.
There are lots of Christine Branches on Ancestry to look through, can go to the library and use Ancestry if you do not have your own at home. Can send messages on Ancestry or send a letter to the local paper where you think she lived.
Hello Kay
From your father John Smith’s birth certificate, please can you give:
Father’s full name
Mother’s full name, including maiden name
Full address where born: ## Rayleigh Road
I looked up another electoral register address: 1906 on register, 1907 not on register, 1908 on register – perhaps not everyone wanted to vote or for people to track their whereabouts
Quite unbelievably there is only ONE John Smith born in Fulham in 1920
GYPSIES LIVING WANDSWORTH COMMON
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/static/Gypsy-traveller.jsp
GYPSIES LIVING PUTNEY COMMON
https://www.periodpaper.com/products/1870-wood-engraving-hubert-herkomer-gypsy-encampment-putney-commons-england-art-212605-ytg1-196
GYPSIES LIVING NOTTING DALE
http://hidden-london.com/gazetteer/notting-dale/
http://www.portobellofilmfestival.com/talkpics/talk-2008carnival-03.html
https://www.theundergroundmap.com/wp/notting-hill-in-bygone-days-chapter-7/
1918 MARRIAGE
Spouse: Arthur G Smith
Spouse: May E S Woods
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Wandsworth
Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1918
Marriage Place: St Mary, Putney, Wandsworth, England
Spouse: May Elizabeth Sarah Woods
Address: 33 Lacy Road, Putney
Birth Date: 1897
Father: Joseph Oliver Woods Soldier
Spouse: Arthur George Smith
Address: 82 Mallison Road Wandsworth
Birth Date: 1894
Father: Henry Smith leather worker
1920 BIRTH
The only John Smith born in Fulham in 1920
Name: John H Smith
Registration Date: Jul 1920
Registration district: Fulham
Mother’s Maiden Name: Woods
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Name: John H Smith
Birth Date: 25 Jun 1920 (have 42 days to register birth)
Address: 2 Parkstead Road, Wandsworth
Father: Arthur G Smith
Mother: May E Smith
Hello Marz
There are families on Ancestry researching George and Rosa.
Ancestry DNA
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/dna/?geo_a=r&geo_s=us&geo_t=uk&geo_v=2.0.0&o_iid=64404&o_lid=64404&o_sch=Web+Property
Hello Laura
Hope these help
Barnarods
https://www.barnardos.org.uk/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjYHpBRC4ARIsAI-3GkF_zWd6wc7poiSTSgz_iXzVWth6oTjt2EJbfSpK56HLTdgOWXB8zeMaAnH4EALw_wcB
Salavation Army Family Tracing
https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/family-tracing?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjYHpBRC4ARIsAI-3GkEMhD-kimgRh7Kf8Z5XeKinOCWiEmcs1CPcVdt4LOr7Dlealv-zV6UaAuiBEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
,
Hello Laura
Barnarods
https://www.barnardos.org.uk/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjYHpBRC4ARIsAI-3GkF_zWd6wc7poiSTSgz_iXzVWth6oTjt2EJbfSpK56HLTdgOWXB8zeMaAnH4EALw_wcB
Salavation Army Family Tracing
https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/family-tracing?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjYHpBRC4ARIsAI-3GkEMhD-kimgRh7Kf8Z5XeKinOCWiEmcs1CPcVdt4LOr7Dlealv-zV6UaAuiBEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
WALLERLAURA@ymail.com
I believe evacuation of children during WWII was by school. I would like to know where Coverdale Road School and Godolphin & Latimer School were evacuated to. Are there any online records by name of evacuees?
My cousin was at Godolphin & Latymer and refused to go when the school was evacuated. She stayed at home and gave up her education which she regretted greatly in later life. She could have helped you but died only a few weeks ago. But her daughter has done a bit of research and says they went to Windsor and then Newbury. There is an active Old Dolphins Association with extensive archives and I’m sure they would be pleased to help with more detail. https://www.godolphinandlatymer.com/development/old-dolphins
This is helpful information. Thank you for taking time to respond. It’s much appreciated.
I have an obituary that gives more details. I can’t attach it so if you give me your email I’ll send it to you. Send it to ‘ stephen at lally dot org dot uk ‘
Hello Kay Arnold
Please contact local archives
Please contact national archives
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/evacuees/
Please contact the school directly just celebrated 100 years history
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/articles/news/2016/07/school-celebrates-100-years-learning-victorian-themed-fair
Hello Geoff
No mention of the name ‘Harp’ but the dance hall/dance club in the location you mention is in articles below during WWII.
What time period are you referring to, perhaps was renamed at that time?
Putney Dance Hall Bombing
https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/28/a8128028.shtml
http://www.putneysw15.com/default.asp?section=community&app=forum/ShowMessage.asp?ID=957190
http://www.putneysw15.com/default.asp?section=community&link=http://appasp.putneysw15.com/server/app/forum/ShowMessage.asp?ID=1097389
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815151.new#new
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/static/Punishment.jsp
Death Penalty
Over the course of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries use of the death penalty was increasingly restricted to the most serious offences. It was removed from pickpocketing in 1808, and from many more offences in the 1820s and 1830s. By the 1840s only those found guilty of the most serious offences (murder, wounding, violent theft, arson, sodomy) were sentenced to death (though only murderers were actually executed), and the 1861 Offences Against the Persons Act abolished the death penalty for all offences except for murder and High Treason.
Imprisonment: Penal Servitude
Penal servitude was a term of imprisonment at hard labour first introduced by the 1853 and 1857 Penal Servitude Acts as a replacement for transportation. It gave judges the discretion to sentence anyone who might otherwise have been transported for less than 14 years to penal servitude. This normally meant labour in a convict prison.
He was given a life sentence, how come he is out by 1901, if not before?
1901 CENSUS
Is this the murderer
First convicted of murder and sentenced to death
Sentence reduced to penal servitude for life
Could the sentence have been reduced again
Name: Walter Hosler
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Head
Spouse: Emma Hosler
Birth Place: Essex, England
Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Hello Derek
Ironically the Bedford Arms held inquests at the pub.
There are many newspaper reports about the inquests held here.
There was a murder outside the pub. There are many other newspaper reports around the country about the case.
There was an up-to-no-good person who hid in the pub.
What happened in the room that was strange then?
1882 MARRIAGE
Name: Walter Hosler, labourer
Marriage Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1854
Marriage Date: 19 Nov 1882
Marriage Place: St Clement, Notting Hill
Father: Henry Hosler, weaver
Spouse: Emma Hartley
Name: Emma Hartley [Emma Yates] widow
Marriage Age: 46
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1836
Marriage Date: 19 Nov 1882
Marriage Place: St Clement, Notting Hill
Father: Edmund Yates, Gardener
Spouse: Walter Hosler
1891 CENSUS
Unable to find
1892 WEST LONDON OBSERVER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/18921231/153/0006
MAN MURDERED AT NOTTINQ HILL. THE PRISONER IN COURT. At the West London Police Court, on Monday Walter Hosler, a labourer, who gave address in Peel Street, Notting Hill, was placed in the dock charged with the murder of Dennis Finnessey, by stabbing him in the neck. A lad named Edward living Pembridge Road, said on Saturday night, he was passing along Bedford Gardens, when he saw the deceased standing near the Bedford Arms. The prisoner came round the corner and called to him. The deceased turned round, and the prisoner struck him in the neck.
1893 LONDON MID-SURREY TIMES & GENERAL ADVERTISER
The Fatal Stabbing Affray.—At the West London Police-court, on Monday, before Mr. Plowden, Walter Hosler, a labourer, living in Peel-street, Kensington, was brought up on remand charged with feloniously killing and slaying Dennis Finnessey, by stabbing him in the neck on Christmas Eve.—Thomas Tilbury, the landlord of the Bedford Arms, was recalled, and he stated that when the deceased entered the bar the prisoner said, “Here is my old enemy.” Witness had heard them disputing before that. The prisoner accused the deceased of owing him some money for beer. The deceased in a “nasty” manner denied owing him any money. There was a talk about a fight. Both men were sober when they left the bar on Christmas Eve.—Edward Kitt was also recalled, and said at the time he saw the prisoner stab the deceased in the neck he heard him remark, “Take that.” Blood flowed from the deceased immediately afterwards.— Police-constable Mori arty, who arrested the prisoner, and identified the knife which he had in his possession, deposed that on the way to the station he said, “It is.my knife. I told him if he hit me again, I would stick him. * This is the third time he has set about me.”—Inspector Baldock said he had charge of the station, and told the prisoner that the man was dead. The prisoner then made a statement to the effect that the deceased challenged him to fight, dragged him out of the house, and struck him, that they struggled and fell in the road, and that when he got up one man caught hold of him and asked him for a knife, which he took out of his pocket and gave to him. He denied using the knife, adding that there had been an ill-feeling between him and the deceased for some time, and he had tried to keep out of his way. Witness entered the charge against the prisoner, who made no reply. He (the inspector) opened the knife, and found fresh stains of blood on the long blade.—John Skidmore, a messenger, said he was in the Bedford Arms when he saw the prisoner talking to a man. Both went out together. Shortly afterwards he saw a man outside standing in a fainting condition, and bleeding from the neck. The man said, “I am stabbed.” Witness went to his assistance and took him across the road to a chemist’s shop. The man never spoke afterwards. He knew the prisoner by the name of “Walter,” and he heard him nay “Come outside.” He did not hear any quarrel, he did not know the other man, and he could not say whether he was the same man whom he saw in the Bedford Arms. —Mr. Plowden committed the prisoner, who reserved his defence, for trial for the wilful murder of the deceased
1893 OLD BAILEY PROCEEDINGS
Name: Walter Hosler
Birth Year: abt 1855
Court Date: 9 Jan 1893
Court Place: London, England
Role: Defendant
Offense: Murder
Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: Death
Collection: Proceedings of the Old Bailey
URL: http://www.oldbaileyonline.org…
1893 WESTERN MORNING NEWS
MURDER AT KENSINGTON. At the West London Police Court yesterday, W, Hosier, a labourer, living in Peel-Street, Kensington, who was brought up on remand charged with feloniously killing and slaying Dennis Finnessey stabbing him in neck with a knife on Christmas eve outside a public-house, was committed for trial on a charge of wilful murder.
1893 PENNY ILLUSTRATED PAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000693/18930121/024/0006
The Murder at Kensington.—This grave case was decided at the Old Bailey Sessions. Walter Hosier, thirty-eight, a labourer, was sentenced to SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR THE MURDER OF DENNIS FINNESSEY AT KENSINGTON. death for the wilful murder of Dennis Finnessey, Kensington, on Dec. 24. Finnessey was fatally stabbed during a brawl. Mr. Justice Grantham said that if men would only learn to use their fists instead of knives when tempted to violence there would be less loss of life than there unhappily was, but if they did use such fatal instruments as knives they could expect but one result.
1893 CORNISH TELEGRAPH
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001617/18930202/051/0003
Walter Hosler, sentenced to death for the murder of Dennis Finnessey at Kensington, has been respited and the capital sentence commuted to one of penal servitude for life.
1898 WEST LONDON OBSERVER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/18980401/061/0003
FOUND UNDER THE BED.—John Smith, labourer, was charged with being a suspected person found in the house of Mr. Harry Chambers, the Bedford Arms.” Dawes Road. Fulham, supposed for unlawful purpose. After the house was closed Saturday. the gas upstairs usually left burning was noticed out, and the barman sent the potman up to search the house, and he found the prisoner crouched under the barman’s bed.—The prisoner said he was drunk, but it was proved the witnesses that he was sober. —A remand was granted for inquiries
1911 DEATH
Name: Walter Hosler
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Kensington
1911 CENSUS
Name: Emma Hosler
Age in 1911: 74
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation to Head: Head
Birth Place: Bognor, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Kensington
Street address: 88 Bramley Road, North Kensington W
Marital status: Widowed
Years Married: 28
Estimated Marriage Year: 1883
Occupation: OLD AGE PENSIONER
Hello Edmund
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815116.new;topicseen#new
I think the Dix/Dicks family is the Dykes family below.
Please could you tell us your mother’s full name and date of birth and your grandfather’s full name and date of birth if known.
Did your grandmother marry in 1911 or approximately 1911?
1872 MARRIAGE
Husband Horace is a corn dealer, 61 Old Kent Road
Bomb Sight, that address no longer exists
http://bombsight.org/bombs/37979/
http://bombsight.org/bombs/38009/
Name: Ellen Jane Dykes
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1872
Marriage Date: 19 Aug 1896
Marriage Place: St Andrew, Newington, Southwark, England
Spouse: Horace Simons
Father-in-law John Simons is a merchant
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000443/18870205/063/0004
For all kinds of Sundries write for Wholesale Prices to JOHN SIMONS, SOUTHWARK GRANARY & STEAM MILLS, 61. OLD KENT ROAD. LONDON.
1881 CENSUS
Unable to find Ellen and Horace
1891 CENSUS
Unable to find Ellen and Horace
1901 CENSUS
St Katherine’s Convent
http://www.afamilystory.co.uk/ebooks/hammersmith-fulham-putney-sect2.aspx
It is now the Community of the Sisters of St. Katherine for the work of assisting and rescuing young women convicted of a first offence or discharged for dishonesty without conviction, but otherwise of good moral character. The girls are employed in house and laundry work, which is taken in from outside, and the proceeds go to the funds. After two years’ training they are placed in service. This institution has a branch at Hammersmith, and a small one at Walham. It belongs to the Church of England. In Lillie Road, to the east of North End Road, is the Mount Carmel Hermitage.
Name: Ellen Thomas
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Finsbury Park
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Fulham
Household Members:
Ellen Thomas 16
Lots of other girls Ages
1901 CENSUS
144 Wandsworth Road To North End Road 1.5 Miles
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+far+wandsworth+bridge+road+to+north+end+road&oq=how+far+wandsworth+bridge+road+to+north+end+road&aqs=chrome..69i57.11941j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Husband Horace is a corn dealer
Name: Nellie Simons [Nellie Dykes]
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Wife
Spouse: Horace Simons
Father: John Dykes
Birth Place: Newington, London, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Household Members:
John D Simons 3
Herbert A Tyler 14
Agnes Tyler 13
Annie Bannister 14
1911 CENSUS
Husband Horace is a corn dealer
Name: Ellen Simons [Ellen Dykes]
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Wife
Birth Place: Southwark, London, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Street address: 144 Wandsworth Bridge Rd
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 14
Estimated Marriage Year: 1897
Occupation: ASSISTING IN THE BUSINESS
Household Members:
John Simons 13
Cecil Simons 9
John Wykes 63
Agnes Tyler 23
Elizabeth Miller 18
1911 MARRIAGE
Ellen Ann Thomas
Unable to find
Who did she marry
Is marriage date correct
1939 CENSUS
Horace retired corn dealer
Name: Ellen J Simons
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 15 Oct 1871
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 18 Queens Wood Avenue, Thorton Heath
Residence Place: Croydon, Surrey, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Inferred Spouse: Horace Simons
I was very excited to receive a response after following the FHHS for several years, and I would like to say thank you to you and the various contributors to the RootsChat thread.
However, I’m a bit unclear as to how the discussion evolved as it looks a little like a game of Chinese whispers! We seem to have got involved with people called Dykes and a corn merchant, and there seems to have been confusion about ‘adoption’. Also, the census material showing my grandmother being accommodated at St Katherine’s convent was already known to me. I know that the convent moved to the countryside after being bombed and I have visited its later site, which became a Sue Ryder home, and consulted the remaining records there.
My mother’s story was simply that her mother was ‘adopted’ in the sense of being cared for by the family she lived with and worked for, with no suggestion of legal adoption. And she clearly said the name was Dix or Dicks, not Dykes, and that when she was taken to visit it was to North End Road.
The goodwill shown to my enquiry is very touching but I don’t think we’re any nearer an answer. Thanks for giving it an airing!
Edmund
Hello Edmund
Good to hear from you.
With such a complicated story and little evidence to go on, needed to give as much information to those helping.
The general consensus was that Ellen was cared for ‘like a member of the family’ rather than ‘adopted’.
When first looking for Dix families in Fulham they were not coming up on the 1911 census, have now tried another route and found Charles Harry Dix living with wife Ellen (Nellie) Mary Dix and son Harry Claude Dix living in 36 Harwood Road which is closer to North End Road, there are families on Ancestry to contact
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+far+harwood+road+to+north+end+road&oq=how+far+harwood+road+to+north+end+road&aqs=chrome..69i57.6141j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
There were also a couple of Dicks families in Fulham but not married to an Ellen/Nellie.
If you’re able to give your father’s and mother’s full names and who Ellen married, so as researchers we have a starting point, can give that part of the enquiry another shot for you!
Best Regards
I am trying to find any information about my grandmother ‘Alice Rose Green’ (or Rose Alice Green), born February 1907 in Fulham.
She married my grandfather William Butterfield, who was also from Fulham (unsure of the year).
I would like to know who her parents (my great grandparents) were and where she was born and lived, if she had any siblings, as I cannot find any birth information and was told that she was born in Margravine Road, Fulham.. could it be the workhouse?
Thank you so much in advance, this information will be much appreciated.
Yours Sincerely
Amanda
me again…Or she could have been born in February 1908?
the information I have is very limited.
Thanks again.
Amanda
My mother was born in the the workhouse infirmary but her mother was not in the workhouse just turned up heavily pregnant, the address was given as though it was a house no in the road. Apparently this is what happened rather then tell the registra your baby was born in the workhouse onfirmary..
I have a copy of the infirmary log as to her arrival ,condition and leaving 2 weeks later.
Brian
Hello Brian,
Thank you for your response and information.
I wasn’t aware that the address of the workhouse infirmary was used in this way, very helpful.
May I ask what the address states please?
Hello Amanda
With so many possibilities for your grandmother but none of them fitting exactly to her name, you need to order her wedding certificate and death certificate to know who her parents are to then research the next generation back. Is the knowledge you know from family stories or from documentation?
1903 BIRTH
Name: William Butterfield
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
1908 BIRTH
Name: Alice Rose Green
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
1908 BIRTH
Name: Lily Alice R Green
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
1908 BAPTISM
Name: Lila Ruth May Alice Green
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 7 Jun/Not her wrong birthday
Baptism Date: 7 Jul 1908
Baptism Place: St John, Worlds End, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Frederick William Green
Mother: Hellen Green
1908 BAPTISM
Name: Kathleen Alice Green
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1908/not her wrong birthday
Baptism Date: 29 Mar 1908
Baptism Place: St Matthew, West Kensington
Father: Charles Francis Green
Mother: Alice Green
1908 BIRTH
Name: Ella Alice Green
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
1909 BAPTISM
Name: Rose Violet Green
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1909/not her wrong birthday
Baptism Date: 28 Jul 1909
Baptism Place: St Peter, Fulham
Father: Alfred Edward Green
Mother: Annie Green
1911 CENSUS
Father John is a green grocer
Name: William Butterfield
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hammersmith
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 7 Orris Mews Beaton Road, Hammersmith
Occupation: SCHOLAR
Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: South Hammersmith
Household Members:
John A Butterfield 29
Caroline Butterfield 27
John Butterfield 10
William Butterfield 8
Caroline Butterfield 6
1911 CENSUS
Name: Alice Green
Age in 1911: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1907
Relation to Head: Child
Birth Place: Hammersmith
Civil Parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 11 Hilmer Street, West Kensington
Registration district: Fulham
Household Members:
William Green 65
Hannah Green 22 daughter
Alice Green 4 child / why?
Catherine Green 0 granddaughter
1928 MARRIAGE
Order marriage certificate for her family
Name: William Butterfield
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: London
Spouse: Alice Rose Green
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Name: William Butterfield Senior
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1902
Residence Year: 1939
Residence Place: Hammersmith, London, England
Occupation: Horse Driver (Coal )
Inferred Spouse: Rose Butterfield 22 February 1908
Inferred Children: John Butterfield
1974 DEATH
Name: William Butterfield
Death Age: 71
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1903
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: Greater London
1975 DEATH
Order death certificate for her family
Name: Alice Rose Butterfield
Death Age: 67
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1908
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: Greater London
Hello Lorraine,
Thank you so much for your response and information.
The information I have is from distant family (so not confirmed) and some information from ancestry, but again, I cannot be sure until I order the certificates you stated.
If you do find any further info, please do let me know.
Amanda
Hi Lesley, some more fantastic and knowledgeable researchers
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815100.0
Hello Lorraine,
many thanks for taking the time to send me all the info about the Hammersmith Princess Christian Nursery & North Cadbury, where my twin aunts were evacuated with the nursery in August 1939. My post was such a long time ago, I had forgotten about it! I had managed to discover some of this info in the interim, via the current hotel management who put me touch with a local historian, and ultimately to a lovely book: The Parson’s Quarter Companion, by Sam W Miller, which is a history of North Cadbury, Galhampton & Woolston, published 1997 by Dickens Printers, Castle Cary, Somerset. This book includes a description of the nursery at North Cadbury Court, written by Joy Burden, who worked there at the time (pages 18 & 19). My baby twin aunts are mentioned! Sam also very kindly sent me some postcards of the village.
The new info you’ve sent gives more details and background – wonderful.
My twin aunts recently celebrated their 80th birthday!
best wishes,
Lesley Plant
My pleasure and congratulations, I wonder if they remember the Matron mentioned?
No, my aunts have no memory of this at all, they were such little babies / young toddlers. My mother, who was 5 in 1939, and her older sister, age 10 in 1939, were also evacuated nearby so that my grandmother could visit them, and they did all the remembering!
Just the right age then.
My family were evacuated to Leicestershire.
In peace-time ‘holidays’ hop picking in Kent and on the Thames ‘beach’ during the summer.
Dear Edmund
I believe the following family is your ‘Dix’ or ‘Dicks’ family as I could also not find these names in the Fulham area.
1872 MARRIAGE
Husband Horace is a corn dealer, 61 Old Kent Road
Bomb Sight, that address no longer exists
http://bombsight.org/bombs/37979/
http://bombsight.org/bombs/38009/
Name: Ellen Jane Dykes
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1872
Marriage Date: 19 Aug 1896
Marriage Place: St Andrew, Newington, Southwark, England
Spouse: Horace Simons
Father-in-law John Simons is a merchant
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000443/18870205/063/0004
For all kinds of Sundries write for Wholesale Prices to JOHN SIMONS, SOUTHWARK GRANARY & STEAM MILLS, 61. OLD KENT ROAD. LONDON.
1881 CENSUS
Unable to find Ellen and Horace
1891 CENSUS
Unable to find Ellen and Horace
1901 CENSUS
St Katherine’s Convent
http://www.afamilystory.co.uk/ebooks/hammersmith-fulham-putney-sect2.aspx
It is now the Community of the Sisters of St. Katherine for the work of assisting and rescuing young women convicted of a first offence or discharged for dishonesty without conviction, but otherwise of good moral character. The girls are employed in house and laundry work, which is taken in from outside, and the proceeds go to the funds. After two years’ training they are placed in service. This institution has a branch at Hammersmith, and a small one at Walham. It belongs to the Church of England. In Lillie Road, to the east of North End Road, is the Mount Carmel Hermitage.
Name: Ellen Thomas
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Servant
Birth Place: Finsbury Park
Civil Parish: Fulham
Household Members:
Ellen Thomas 16
Lots of other girls
1901 CENSUS
144 Wandsworth Road To North End Road 1.5 Miles
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+far+wandsworth+bridge+road+to+north+end+road&oq=how+far+wandsworth+bridge+road+to+north+end+road&aqs=chrome..69i57.11941j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Husband Horace is a corn dealer
Name: Nellie Simons [Nellie Dykes]
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Wife
Spouse: Horace Simons
Father: John Dykes
Birth Place: Newington, London, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Household Members:
John D Simons 3
John Dykes 54
Herbert A Tyler 14
Agnes Tyler 13
Annie Bannister 14
1911 CENSUS
Husband Horace is a corn dealer
Name: Ellen Simons [Ellen Dykes]
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Wife
Birth Place: Southwark, London, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Street address: 144 Wandsworth Bridge Rd, Fulham SW
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 14
Estimated Marriage Year: 1897
Occupation: ASSISTING IN THE BUSINESS
Household Members:
John Simons 13
Cecil Simons 9
John Wykes 63
Agnes Tyler 23
Elizabeth Miller 18
1911 MARRIAGE
Ellen Ann Thomas
Unable to find
Who did she marry
Is marriage date correct
1939 CENSUS
Horace retired corn dealer
Name: Ellen J Simons
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 15 Oct 1871
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 18 Queens Wood Avenue, Thornton Heath
Residence Place: Croydon, Surrey, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Inferred Spouse: Horace Simons
Hello L Plant
About the nursery just as war starts and down in Somerset.
1901 SCOTLAND CENSUS
Jane Neil sister
John Neil brother
Name: Jane H Neill
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relationship: (Daughter)
Father’s name: Robert M Neill
Mother’s name: Jessie A Neill
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Dean
County: Midlothian
Address: Lynnholm Wardie Crescent
Household Members:
John W T Neill 5
1911 CENSUS
Janet Flora Neill
Not able to trace
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815100.msg6762546#msg6762546
1915 THE BRITISH JOURNAL OF NURSING SUPPLEMENT
Click to access page288-volume54-3rdapril1915.pdf
THE HAMMERSMITH DAY NURSERY. The Princess Christian Day Nursery, 135, Blythe Road, W., is doing good work, in a poor part of the metropolis, on non-pauperising, non-sectarian, and non-political lines. The staff consists of a Matron, Head Nurse, three Under Nurses, and a Cook General, all interested in the work of the Nursery. The Hon. Medical Officer, Mr. Richard Bevan, D.P.H., reports that ‘I the value of the work done is shown by the steadily increasing numbers of admittances. This is mainly due to the efforts of the excellent Matron and Staff, and to the earnestness and hard work of the Committee, and other willing workers. ‘‘There has been very little illness of any kind, and no spread of anything infectious. The prompt isolation and securing-by the Matron of proper advice has prevented this.” Mr. Bevan is “much struck (when visiting the Creche, generally unexpectedly) with the cleanliness, not only of the children, but of the whole Institution. It is well ventilated, the children well looked after’ and properly fed, and seem, extremely comfortable and happy. A rapid improvement is noticed in those children who come regularly for a few weeks. “ A great testimony, too, is the gratitude of the mothers. This proves that the many efforts made to maintain the Institution to a high standard of efficiency, and the resulting benefit to the children,’ have been successful and appreciated
1915 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Richard Bevan
Year: 1915
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Address 31 Girdlers Road
1915 KINGS COLLEGE LONDON WAR MEMORIALS
https://kingscollections.org/warmemorials/kings-college/memorials/bevan-richard-vincent
Richard Vincent (Dick) Bevan was the younger son of Alderman Richard Bevan, M.R.C.S. and D.P.H. and Mrs Bevan, 31 Girdlers Road, West Kensington, W. He was born at Lydd, Kent in 1893, and so had just passed his 21st year. He was educated first at Colet Court Preparatory School (Bewshers), and from there in 1905 gained a Junior Foundation Scholarship at St.Paul’s School, Hammersmith, ultimately obtaining the Senior Foundation Scholarship and remaining at St. Paul’s till 1910, when on obtaining the Huxley Entrance Scholarship at Charing Cross Hospital Medical School, he entered that school and began his medical training..
135 BLYTHE ROAD
House still has Princess Christian Hammersmith Day Nursery advertising
https://www.google.com/maps/place/135+Blythe+Rd,+Hammersmith,+London+W14+0HL/@51.4991718,-0.2191466,3a,75y,196.45h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stGAZ9IuRatkLeWVfjgSn8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760fc42af8f213:0x4c94a9e0e52bc574!8m2!3d51.4990664!4d-0.2191654
Contact Hammersmith Local Archives for any further information
1926 STARTS WORKING FOR NURSERY
Janet Flora Neill
1935 PASSENGER LIST
Janet brother, partner at Price Waterhouse & Co, accountants
Name: John William F Neill
Arrival Date: 8 Nov 1935
Birth Date: abt 1895
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Edinburgh
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scotch
Place of Origin: Germany
Friend’s Name: Price Waterhouse & Co
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Europa
1935-1938 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTERS
Janet Wemyss Haig Cotter
Eliza Amelia Fildes
Name: Jane Flora Neill
Year: 1938
County or Borough: Twickenham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Twickenham
Street address: 10 Ravensbourne Road
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0660
1939 WESTERN GAZETTE FRIDAY 17 NOVEMBER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000407/19391117/015/0007
NORTH CADBURY “A FAIRY GODMOTHER” LADY LANGMAN’S WORK FOR REFUGEES. How well London children are being cared for the country is related by Lady Lilian Bull, in a letter to Hammersmith mothers. Lady Bull, chairman of Hammersmith Day Nursery, paid a visit to North Cadbury Court. Yeovil, home of Sir Archibald and~ the Hon. Lady Langman, where the children are staying. ” Everything has gone off without a hitch.” she writes. Lady Langman has given up half the house to the nursery The toddlers and other children sleep the ballroom, and the babies in a room adjoining. The kindness, generosity and thought for the comfort and welfare of the children given by Lady Langman are beyond words. ” There were many difficulties to be faced, foremost among them the inadequacy numbers of a day nursery staff to run a children’s home, at which children were permanently resident. They had to be got up, dressed, fed during the day, taken out, and put to bed. Besides this, one nurse had to be on night duty and others sleeping with the children— all working from 6.30 a.m. to 10 p.m. Lady Langman’s cook and staff most willing helpers, and everyone here doing great war work in building the health of the children who will follow us. “Dr. Barlow and his wife, who is also s doctor, visit the nursery constantly, and the children are a happy little crowd “I consider the children of Hammersmith are most fortunate in being in such a lovely home and beautiful surroundings under the care of Lady Langman. who has consented to act as local representative of the Nursery. Fairy Godmother would be a title more applicable to her.
1939 WEST LONDON OBSERVER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19390526/168/0009
LADY HULL’S TRIBUTE. Lady Bull sends the following tribute to the Matron of the Princess Christian Day Nursery:— last Sunday, May 21st, there passed out our midst, after a very short illness, one who most beloved by all our dear Matron, Miss Jane Neill. She had been at our Nursery for over thirteen years and was devoted her work. She had a marvellous personality and her understanding the mothers and the staff was perhaps due to her big heart and keen sense of humour. Her influence for all that was good will be remembered for many years those who were privileged to work with her. The mothers and children of Hammersmith, are, I know, grateful for all she has done for them. The Nursery has suffered irreparable loss and the world is a poorer place for her passing. It may be truly said of her “her life was spent in others’ gain, unselfish to the end.”
1939 DEATH
Name: Jane Flora Neill
Death Age: 58
Birth Date: abt 1881
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Hammersmith
1939 PROBATE
John William Fraser Neill, brother, accountant
Janet Wemyss Haig Cotter, Scottish
Died at Hammersmith Hospital
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Brother John
Name: John W F Neill
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1895
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Long Orchard
Residence Place: Walton and Weybridge, Surrey, England
Occupation: Chartered Accountant
Household Members:
Marthe R Neill
1940 THE TATLER WEDNESDAY 12 JUNE
Article and photos
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001852/19400612/019/0023
It was in July last that Sir Archibald and the Hon. Lady Langman first offered beautiful Cadbury Court to the Princess Christian Hammersmith Day Nursery as an evacuation centre for children, and ever since then it has continued to function with much success. Lady Bull, who is Chairman of the Hammersmith nursery, has said that the health of the children has improved tremendously. It would be surprising if it had not done so in such surroundings with much of the provender coming from the home farm upon which Sir Archibald and Lady Langman have a herd of sixty Ayrshires and four Jerseys some of these good milkers being pictured in these pages. And on top of this there is the fine Somersetshire air and the peaceful and very beautiful surroundings meat and drink in themselves. Sir Archibald and Lady Langman have done a fine work in their country’s cause by the giving of this home to its present excellent uses. Lady Langman, who is Chairman of the Women’s Land Army in Somerset, is the only surviving daughter of the first Lord Lyell, who was succeeded by his grandson. Sir Archibald Langman served all through the South African War (despatches and a C.M.G.), has one son serving with a Yeomanry Unit in the present war, and there are two daughters, Miss Mary Langman, the elder, doing good work at Cadbury Court, which, incidentally, was rebuilt on the site of the former house whose date was 1590 and the younger daughter, Miss Nora Langman, is serving in the F.A.N.Y., the First Aid Nursing Yeomanry.
https://www.elysian-estates.co.uk/history-north-cadbury-court/
The home has seen many other wars over the years including World War II, when it was used as a nursery after a hospital in London was evacuated.
LADY BULL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_William_Bull,_1st_Baronet
Bull was the son of Henry Bull, a solicitor, and his wife Cecilia Ann Howard, daughter of James Peter Howard. He was returned to Parliament for Hammersmith in 1900, a seat he held until 1918, and then sat for Hammersmith South until 1929. Having been knighted in 1905,[1] he was admitted to the Privy Council in 1918[2] and created a baronet, of Hammersmith in the County of London, in 1922. Bull married Lilian Hester Brandon, daughter of Gabriel Samuel Brandon, on 5 January 1904
LORD BULL
https://www.chu.cam.ac.uk/news/2016/dec/19/papers-william-bull/
In 1901 he paused to consider what life in West London would be like on the ‘1st January 2001’, imagining a Hammersmith in which telegraphs and telephones would have been installed in every home “as a matter of course”; poorer “people were housed at reasonable cost in self-contained houses”; prisons had closed “for want of occupants”; the local workhouse had become a gleaming new site for “tertiary education” and William Morris’s Kelmscott House had been turned into a comfortable “Public Library”; and electric boats had been installed on the Thames to take Londoners home from the theatre “at 12 o’clock at night”. Personal reminiscences – such as his reaction to the installation of the first electric lighting in Hammersmith – Bull’s papers chronicle a multitude of contemporary events in the capital.
ARCHIBALD & ELEANOR LANGMAN
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/uk/inside-north-cadbury-court-grand-pile-rot-asbestos-leaks-cost/
In 1910 the estate was purchased by Sir Archibald Langman, a Londoner and goldsmith who dreamed of green fields and a rural life. With his wife, ¬Eleanor, the couple began farming.
MARY LANGMAN
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1459360/Mary-Langman.html
Mary Langman, who has died aged 95, was one of the first organic farmers in Britain and a champion of alternative sustainable agriculture at a time when it was dismissed by many as “muck and magic”; a founder member of the Soil Association, in the late 1960s she set up the first organic food shop in Baker Street, London. Mary Eleanor Langman was born in London on August 6 1908, the eldest of the three children of Sir Archibald Langman. When she was two, the family moved to North Cadbury Court, an Elizabethan manor house near Yeovil, Somerset. Mary was taught at home by a governess, after which she attended a finishing school in Paris. Upon her return to England, she moved to London, where she became the secretary to two doctors, George Scott Williamson and his wife Innes Pearse. In 1935 they had set up what became known as the Peckham Experiment, an early attempt to study the effects of diet and exercise on health. Through her work with the Peckham Experiment, Mary Langman first developed an interest in farming methods and their connection to the quality and health-giving properties of the food. She also collaborated with the doctors to produce a book, The Peckham Experiment, which was published in 1943. During the war, the Peckham Experiment was closed down, and Mary Langman returned to Somerset where she helped to arrange accommodation for evacuees. But she returned to Peckham as soon as the project began again, and soon moved into Oakley Farm at nearby Bromley Common, in Kent, where the two doctors were living as tenants.
1942 US WORLD WAR TWO DRAFT REGISTRATION CARDS
Partner, Price Waterhouse
Name: John William Fraser Neill
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence Age: 47
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1895
Birth Place: Edinburgh, Scotland
Residence Date: 1942
Residence Place: Essex, New Jersey, USA
Hello Sue
Updated
Hello FHHS/work still going missing
1851 BIRTH
Name: Francis Thomas Atkins
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Kensington
1851 BAPTISM
Name: Francis Thomas Atkins
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 6 Jul 1851
Baptism Place: Walham Green, Hammersmith and Fulham, England
Father: William Atkins
Mother: Charlotte Atkins
1871 MARRIAGE
Francis is a matting weaver
Name: Francis Thomas Atkins
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 5 Mar 1871
Marriage Place: St Peter, Hammersmith, Hammersmith and Fulham, England
Father: William Atkins
Spouse: Maria Hackett
1871 CENSUS
Francis and Marina are living in a house in Fulham
Francis is a matt maker
http://www.foxearth.org.uk/1870-1871BuryFreePress.html
1870 A meeting of Glemsford Mat and Mat Weaving Association was held at the Greyhound Inn on Tuesday in aid of the movement to abolish steam power and hand labour from the prisoners and workhouses which has been found to be injurious to legitimate trade and free labour. A long discussion ensued between the committee and Mr Walter Allen who was sent as a deputation from Glemsford weavers to the London Association. There was also a meeting of Melford cocoa mat weavers at the Bull Inn on the injury caused by introducing steam and hand labour into prisons to the injury of the weavers. There was a large meeting of the cocoa nut weavers of Glemsford and the neighbourhood on Friday evening in the parish to discuss the present position of the trade and question whether “the prisons of this country are to be turned into steam factories to the great injury of honest artisans”. The meeting was addressed by Mr Odger of London, after the address the resolution was moved “that the meeting is of the opinion that the use of steam machinery to aid convict labour is prejudicial to the interests of the honest workmen who have to live by the industry and the goods manufactured by prisoners should be brought on to the open market to compete with free labour”. Between 400-500 men attended the meeting.
1881 CENSUS
Francis, Marina and family are lodging with other families in a house in Fulham
Francis is a matting weaver
Marina is a laundress
1891 CENSUS
Francis, Marina and family are living in Fulham with a bricklayer’s labourer and wife, Francis is a labourer
1901 CENSUS
Francis, Marina and family are living in Fulham
Francis is a navvy
Son George is a fish fryer / food for the working class who had could not afford cooking equipment at home
https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/Fish-Chips/
Both Lancashire and London stake a claim to being the first to invent this famous meal – chips were a cheap, staple food of the industrial north whilst fried fish was introduced in London’s East End. In 1839 Charles Dickens referred to a “fried fish warehouse” in his novel, ‘Oliver Twist’. Fish and chip shops were originally small family businesses, often run from the ‘front room’ of the house and were commonplace by the late 19th century.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/10410058/Potted-histories-fish-and-chips.html
1911 CENSUS
https://www.bgs.org.uk/resources/lord-rowton-and-the-homeless-in-london
Francis who is married, is staying at Rowton House, 221 Hammersmith Road, a hostel built for down and out or low-paid working men, is working as a mason’s labourer
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/RowtonHammersmith/
At the start of their marriage, according to the earlier baptisms Francis is a matting weaver, twenty years later he a labourer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowton_Houses
1911 CENSUS
Marina and family are living in Fulham, Marina is married
Francis and Marina had 15 children, 1 dying by 1911
1915 DEATH
To be sure order the death certificate
Mentally ill paupers from London were sent to asylums in Epsom, Surrey
The poor could suffer mental breakdown due to constant worry about work
Otherwise could have senile dementia or the last stage of a sexually transmitted disease
https://www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/themes/subjects/disability-history/epsom-cluster/
Five Hospitals Of Epsom Cluster
Name: Francis T Atkins
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Epsom
Inferred County: Surrey
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
http://disabilityrightsuk.blogspot.com/2015/12/a-short-history-of-tooting-bec-asylum.html
Tooting Bec Hospital, the other patients are also elderly
In 1939 Tooting Bec Hospital exclusively for those with senile dementia
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/MAB-TootingBec/
Name: Marina Atkins
Marital status: Widowed
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1854
Residence Year: 1939
Residence Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Occupation: Incapacitated
OVSPI: Patient
Household Members: Name
Marina Atkins
Other elderly patients
1940 DEATH
Name: Marina Atkins
Death Age: 86
Birth Date: abt 1854
Registration Date: Oct 1940
[Nov 1940]
[Dec 1940]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Wandsworth
Hello Sue
1851 BIRTH
Name: Francis Thomas Atkins
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Kensington
1851 BAPTISM
Name: Francis Thomas Atkins
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 6 Jul 1851
Baptism Place: Walham Green, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: William Atkins
Mother: Charlotte Atkins
1871 MARRIAGE
Francis is a matting weaver
Name: Francis Thomas Atkins
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 5 Mar 1871
Marriage Place: St Peter, Hammersmith
Father: William Atkins
Spouse: Maria Hackett
1871 CENSUS
Francis and Marina are living in a house in Fulham
Francis is a matt maker
1881 CENSUS
Francis, Marina and family are lodging with other families in a house in Fulham
Francis is a matting weaver
Marina is a laundress
1891 CENSUS
Francis, Marina and family are living in Fulham with a bricklayer’s labourer and wife, Francis is a labourer
1901 CENSUS
Francis, Marina and family are living in Fulham
Francis is a navvy
Son George is a fish fryer / food for the working class who had could not afford cooking equipment at home
1911 CENSUS
https://www.bgs.org.uk/resources/lord-rowton-and-the-homeless-in-london
Francis who is married, is staying at Rowton House, 221 Hammersmith Road , a hostel built for down and out or low-paid working men, is working as a mason’s labourer
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/RowtonHammersmith/
At the start of their marriage, according to the earlier baptisms Francis is a matting weaver, twenty years later he a labourer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowton_Houses
1911 CENSUS
Marina and family are living in Fulham, Marina is married
Francis and Marina had 15 children, 1 dying by 1911
1915 DEATH
To be sure order the death certificate
Mentally ill paupers from London were sent to asylums in Epsom Surrey
The poor could suffer mental breakdown due to constant worry about work
Otherwise could have senile dementia or the last stage of a sexually transmitted disease
https://www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/themes/subjects/disability-history/epsom-cluster/
Five Hospitals Of Epsom Cluster
Name: Francis T Atkins
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Epsom
Inferred County: Surrey
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
http://disabilityrightsuk.blogspot.com/2015/12/a-short-history-of-tooting-bec-asylum.html
Marina is a patient at Tooting Bec Hospital, the other patients are also elderly
In 1939 hospital exclusively for those with senile dementia
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/MAB-TootingBec/
Name: Marina Atkins
Marital status: Widowed
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1854
Residence Year: 1939
Residence Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Occupation: Incapacitated
OVSPI: Patient
Household Members:
Marina Atkins
Other elderly patients
1940 DEATH
Name: Marina Atkins
Death Age: 86
Birth Date: abt 1854
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Wandsworth
Hello Kellyanne
Hand & Flower Pub – beautiful Georgian pub
https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Hammersmith/HandFlower.shtml
The address is at 25 Vale place in 1874 and earlier; and at Kensington gore in the 1825 listing. All of the census entries place the Hand & Flower in Fulham rather than Hammersmith. It is now a Fullers pub, and the 1940 street directory places the south side, numbers 1-147 Hammersmith road in Fulham, and the remainder in Hammersmith.
https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Fulham/HandFlower.shtml
Hand & Flower Pub, 1 Hammersmith Road
https://www.handandflower.co.uk/history
Edwin Hand, born in London in 1822, was the son of an east end barrow boy.
Blessed with the gift of the gab and a winning smile, Edwin carved out an existence as a street hawker. Ambitious as he was, it was not long before young Edwin realised the rather more lucrative profession of petty crime.
Surrounding himself with other like-minded individuals, he quickly established the notorious ‘quality street’ gang – so-called because of their penchant for stealing only the finest silk ties and jewellery from the well healed gentry that frequented the coffee houses and bars of Victorian London.
With a twinkle in his eye and a dashing gait, the young Edwin could have his pick of the local flower girls and seamstresses – but it was to the daughter of a wealthy merchant that his attentions were focused.
Falling in love with his ‘flower’, as he called her, he made repeated attempts to win her affection. Her father had rather more elevated ideas for his daughter’s future though, and hid her away.
Not to be undone, Edwin used the small fortune he had amassed to purchase the freehold of No.1 Hammersmith Road in a bid to establish a legitimate business that would finally convince the family of ‘his flower’ that he was indeed worthy of her hand.
It is here that the records stop – so one can only guess at how the romantic element of The Hand and Flower story unfolded. What we do know, is that the ‘Hand & Flower’ itself was a very popular public house of the day – and was the base from which Mr Hand conducted his business as his empire continued to grow.
The Hackney Coach Directory
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=H1hbZ1t-GDEC&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=hand+and+flower+stables+1+hammersmith+road&source=bl&ots=GI6-N8lg6E&sig=ACfU3U2IiaGjHu1sLspAflS-DZQlrOaACA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjhgKb65JHjAhULbcAKHTDlBvkQ6AEwDnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=hand%20and%20flower%20stables%201%20hammersmith%20road&f=false
Hand & Flower, Kensington Gore, coach stop
1877 BIRTH
Born at Hand & Flower stables
Father coachman
Name: Walter George Burch
Registration Year: 1877
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
1876 BAPTISM
Name: Amalie Elizabeth Smith
Event: Baptism
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1876
Baptism Date: 20 Dec 1876
Baptism Place: Dinapore
Father: Joseph Smith
Mother: Ann E Smith
1900 JOINED ARMY
Edward is a shoeing smith
Name: Edward William Burch
Birth Date: abt 1882
Birth Place: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Enlistment Age: 18
Document Year: 1900
Regimental Number: 15943
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
1902 MARRIAGE
Name: Edward William Burch,
Working at ASC Barracks Woolwich, shoesmith
Marriage Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1881
Marriage Date: 4 May 1902
Marriage Place: St John, Woolwich, Greenwich, England
Father: Walter George Burch
Coachman deceased
Spouse: Amelia Elizabeth Smith
Father Joseph Smith had been in the British Army & Navy
Register Type: Parish Register
1911 CENSUS
Wife Amelia born in India
Name: Edward William Burch
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Birth Place: Brixton, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Marital status: Married
Occupation: FARRIER and GENERAL SMITH
Household Members:
Amelia Elizabeth Burch 34
Walter Edward Burch 8
Alice Amelia Burch 5
Stanley Joseph Burch 3
Victor Henry Burch
Hello John
Looks like would be the Latymer Foundation.
http://www.afamilystory.co.uk/ebooks/hammersmith-fulham-putney-sect1.aspx
At the back of the Latymer Foundation, in Great Church Lane, is the Female Philanthropic Society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godolphin_and_Latymer_School
In 1856 the Godolphin School for boys was opened in Great Church Lane, Hammersmith. In 1862 the school relocated to the current Iffley Road site. Though initially successful, it closed in 1900. In 1905 it reopened as an independent day school for girls, associated with the Latymer Foundation and taking the name of the Godolphin and Latymer School,
https://www.latymerfoundation.org/the-foundation/introduction
Between 1726 and 1863, the Foundation educated girls as well as boys so when Latymer Upper School took girls into its Sixth Form in 1996 it was in fact going back to its roots.
1841 CENSUS
Name: Felix Crockford
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
With lots of boy pupils and two female servants both aged 20
Hello Lillian
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815040.msg6761884#msg6761884
1875 MARRIAGE
Thomas is an attendant at the county asylum
http://www.epsomandewellhistoryexplorer.org.uk/HospitalCluster.html
Name: Thomas Hugh Davies
Marriage Date: 1 Mar 1875
Marriage Place: Epsom, Surrey, England
Father: John Thomas Davies
Spouse: Sarah Ann Bates
Sarah’s father Michael Bates is a shop assistant
In 1881 Sarah is born in Tuny, Hertfordshire
In 1891 Sarah is born in Soulbury, Buckinghamshire
Unable to find Sarah’s family, please help
Name: Sarah Ann Bates
Marriage Date: 1 Mar 1875
Marriage Place: Epsom, St Martin, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: Epsom
Father: Michael Bates
Spouse: Thomas Hugh Davies
1876 BAPTISM
8 Wilson Street Camden
Warden Coldbaths Fields Prison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coldbath_Fields_Prison
https://www.oldpolicecellsmuseum.org.uk/content/history/local-historians-history/david-rowland/prisons-david-rowland/the_coldbath_fields_prison
Name: Thomas Hugh Davies
Spouse: Sarah Ann Davies
Child: Sarah Ann Davies
1877 BAPTISM
Warden House Of Detention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerkenwell_Prison
8 Willow Street, Gray’s Inn Road
Name: Thomas Hugh Davies
Spouse: Sarah Anne Davies
Child: Harry Llewellyn Davies
1879 BAPTISM
Warden Hell Prison, most likely Coldbaths Fields Prison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Devil%27s_Walk
The Devil’s Walk
As he went through Coldbath-Fields, he saw
A solitary cell
And the devil was pleased, for it gave him a hint
For improving his prisons in hell
30 Gloucester Street, Clerkenwell
Name: Thomas Hugh Davies
Spouse: Sarah Ann Davies
Child: Reginald Charles Davies
1881 CENSUS
Sarah born Tuny (also can’t read image) Hertfordshire, later born in Soulbury Buckinghamshire
Thomas Warden HMP Clerkenwell Prison
https://www.google.com/search?q=hmp+clerkenwell+prison+1881&oq=hmp+clerkenwell+prison+1881&aqs=chrome..69i57.7642j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Name: Thomas H. Davis
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Sarah A. Davis
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
County/Island: London
Street address: 48 Corporation Row
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Warder At H M P Clerkenwell (Prison)
Household Members:
Sarah A. Davis 4
Harry L. Davis 3
Reynold C. Davis 2
Annie Davis 1
Kate Davis
1882 BAPTISM
Prison Warden
48 Corporation Row Clerkenwell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerkenwell_explosion
Name: Thomas Hugh Davies
Spouse: Sarah Ann Davies
Child: Annie Davies
1882 BAPTISM
Prison Warden
48 Corporation Row Clerkenwell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_Rising#Clerkenwell_explosion
Name: Thomas Hugh Davies
Spouse: Sarah Ann Davies
Child: Thomas Hugh Davies
1885 BAPTISM
1 Locks Garden Clerkenwell
Prison Warden
Name: Thomas Hugh Davies
Spouse: Sarah Ann Davies
Child: Frederick William Davies
1891 CENSUS
Prison Warden Wormwood Scrubs Prison Block 5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Prison_Wormwood_Scrubs
https://www.prisonhistory.org/prison/wormwood-scrubs-prison/
Sarah born Soulbury Buckinghamshire, previously born Tuny Hertfordshire?
Name: Thomas H Davis
Age: 42
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1849
Spouse: Sarah W Davis
Child:
Sarah A Davis
Henry L Davis
Reginald C Davis
Annie Davis
Thomas H Davis
Frederick W Davis
Albert E Davis
Birth Place: Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Residence Place: Hammersmith, London, England
1895 DEATH
Believe this to be Thomas as cannot find family in 1901
Name: Thomas Hugh Davies
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 48
Registration district: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
1897 BAPTISM
Another conundrum
Father Thomas prison warden, does not say deceased, perhaps Thomas hasn’t died after all
Why would Sarah have her child baptised in Bradford when her family origins are Hertfordshire/Buckinghamshire
17 Chaucer Place
Name: Thomas Hugh Davies
Parish as it Appears: Bradford, Holy Trinity
Spouse: Sarah Ann Davies
Child: Kate Violet Davies, born 1891 6 Du Cane Road, White City, Wormwood Scrubs Prison
1901 DEATH
Believe this to be Sarah as cannot find family in 1901
Name: Sarah Ann Davies
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
With the two younger children, would they have gone to Canada out of choice when they were older or been placed in an orphanage and sent to Canada through a resettlement scheme for orphaned children
1907 CANADIAN MARRIAGE
Name: Frederick Wm Davies
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1885
Birth Place: London, England
Residence: Toronto
Marriage Date: 24 May 1907
Marriage Place: Deseronto, Hastings, Ontario, Canada
Father: Thomas Hugh Davies
Mother: Sarah Ann Bates
Spouse: Ormenta Edwina Stratton
Have found some of the other children in 1911 Census England
1913 CANADIAN MARRIAGE
Name: Albert Edward Davies
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birth Place: England
Marriage Date: 24 May 1913
Marriage Place: Lennox, Lennox and Addington, Ontario, Canada
Father: Thos Davies
Mother: Sarah Bates
Spouse: Evelyn Turnball
To FHHS my posts are still disappearing
Hello Anna
Please can you tell us what documentary evidence you have about John P Fleming, private investigator living at Wimpole House, Wharton Road in 1883. Thank you.
Charles Booth Survey
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/17/-0.2176/51.5002/100/0?marker=523819.0,179422.0
Look up Bolingbroke Road, Wharton Road is close by on the map
Wharton Road is now Lakeside Road
1871 CENSUS
John Fleming, the private detective, is a poulter
Charles professor of languages
Name: John Fleming
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Brother-in-law
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
County/Island: Essex
Household Members:
Charles Darbois 46
Marion Darbois 32
Alfred Howett 17, servant
1878 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Capt Charles Francis D’Arbois
Publication Year: 1878
Address: Burlington house
Residence Place: Middlesex, England
Occupation: School
1881 Census
11 Wharton Road
Spanish civil engineer
Louis de Bejar and family.
1881 Census
Wharton Road No.64 has not yet been built
Census indicates building work in road
1883
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.500685,-0.2197156,3a,67.3y,223.43h,103.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sk1a3b3vbF528ZqzPfjzRxg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Now 64 Lakeside Road
John P Fleming residing at Wimpole House, Wharton Road
Is he a private detective or soldier
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814978.new#new
1883 IRISH TIMES
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001683/18831204/068/0002
Militia Military Competitive and Promotion Examinations (Army and Auxiliary Forces).—Lieutenant-Colonel L. Hay Shaw (late Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers) and Captain Ch. D’Arbois (late French Engineers) prepare for above. Officers are received at any time. Apply Wimpole House, Wharton Road. West Kensington Park, W. 28 sent up for Militia Military Competition. 19 successful. -{Advt]
1887 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Francis Charles D’Arbois
Year: 1890
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 64 Wharton Road
1890 MORNING POST
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000174/18900426/003/0002
MILITIA COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION September 1890 A captain late of the engineers is prepared to coach privately candidates for the above, highest references, average marks obtained by last 13 pupils, topography, military law, fortification, tactics, Address F R E 11 Wharton Road
1891 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Francis D’Arbois
Year: 1892
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 11 Wharton Road
Street address: 64 is uninhabited
1891 Census
64 Wharton Road is uninhabited
11 Wharton Road Charles F W ‘Arbois, Army Tutor School
Wife Marin
Daughter Minnette
Servant Anne Oldfield
Could the Lieutenant-Colonel and Captain be teaching espionage, spying, private detective work?
1894 Death
Name: Francis Charles D’arbois
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
1911 Census
James Donald Hay Shaw
Captain Royal Marine Artillery
Portsmouth
1939 National Register
Commandant Hospital For Officers, Brighton
James Donald Hay Shaw totally disabled ex-officer
Hello Claire
Jewish Rescue Home
Charcroft House
Roseford Gardens
Shepherds Bush
Fallen Jewesses remain in the home for at least one year, free, a few maternity cases received
15 mothers
8 babies
For under 25s
Founded in 1885
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/MH8.shtml
The White Slave Trade and the Rothschild’s ‘Fallen Women’
http://www.jtrails.org.uk/trails/Miscellaneous/articles/c-241/the-white-slave-trade-and-the-rothschilds-fallen-women/
In the 19th century and early 20th century, the East End was both a staging post and destination of the international trafficking of many young Jewish girls and women. The girls and women were systematically deceived, procured or inveigled into lives of prostitution and vice. Other centers of the trade stretched from as far east as Bombay and Constantinople and as far west to Buenos Aires. About 20% of the trade was in the hands of Jewish traffickers.
Anglo-Jewry and the Jewish International Traffic in Prostitution, 1885-1914
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1486409?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
A small yet significant segment of the massive Jewish emigration from Eastern Europe to the West between 1881 and 1914 was an active traffic in girls who were recruited to serve as prostitutes in Latin America, South Africa, Turkey, and even the Far East. The present paper first examines the conditions of East European Jewry which loosened social and religious controls and created a large new proletariat of young urban workers who lived without their parents. Some of the women among them, as well as daughters of large, impoverished, traditional families in remote towns, accepted false offers of marriage and good jobs which were made by young men who sought to take the girls abroad and there sell them as prostitutes. The present study follows the routes taken by these traffickers and their victims, and then examines the fate of Jewish prostitutes in London and the activities of the Jewish men who were involved in the traffic. The Anglo-Jewish community forcefully combated the traffic in prostitution through the Jewish Ladies’ Association, which became the Jewish Association for the Protection of Girls and Women in 1896.
Google Charcroft House and various books come up talking extensively about the home
Hello Patricia
Fulham Local Archives will also have ARP Air Raid Precautions reports of bomb raids during WWII if you know what road they were living in – or from death certificate
Soldiers and civilians should be remembered on this website but both your relatives are not here – can ask for them to be entered
https://www.cwgc.org/search-results?term=patricia%2Bm%2Bhilton&name=patricia%2Bm%2Bhilton&fullname=patricia%2Bm%2Bhilton
Local Archives will also a memorial book of those who died during the war
Hi Anna
No.64 is a beautiful large house
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814978.0
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.500685,-0.2197156,3a,67.3y,223.43h,103.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sk1a3b3vbF528ZqzPfjzRxg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Hello Alan
Sadly this is after your 2012 visit but you may come again.
I live in Orpington so we had the Canadian Hospital here to treat soldiers from World War One. Poor late Victorian children from London were sent to Orpington orphanages, then to Canada. The boys became soldiers going to France in World War One, we have found the same boys being treated in the hospital opposite their orphanage. Our unknown to us theatrical family lived in the Fulham and Kensington areas.
There are records of other Digbys from London going to Canada in the 1900s, perhaps they are your relations and why your grandfather moved to Canada
1901 CENSUS
Father Benjamin is a general labourer
The family are living at 30 Wheatstone Road sharing with other families, 20 people living in one house
Charles Booth Survey
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/14/-0.1174/51.5064/100/0
Name: Ethel B Worsley
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Daughter
Father: Benjamin Worsley
Mother: Ethel Worsley
Birth Place: N Kensington, London, England
Civil Parish: Kensington
Household Members:
Jessie C Worsley 3
Violet P Worsley 2
Louisa Fisher 63 niece!
1911 CENSUS
There are two Fred Digbys living in Hammersmith, so which family to choose
Fred Digby, father Harry a bricklayers labourer
Fred Digby, father James a building labourer
Would need to order Fred and Ethel’s marriage certificate to know which family to research
1916 MARRIAGE
Fred at Maidstone Barracks
http://kentww1.com/maidstone/
https://www.visitmaidstone.com/things-to-do/the-river-medway-p94771
Fred at Chatham Dockyard
http://kentww1.com/chatham/
Rochester Military Bases
http://kentww1.com/rochester/
Their marriage certificate might say where he was stationed in the Medway Towns
https://www.historicmedway.co.uk/
https://www.visitmedway.org/
Name: Fred A Digby
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Medway
Inferred County: Kent
Spouse: Worsley
Name: Ethel B Worsley
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Medway
Inferred County: Kent
Spouse: Digby
1917 BAPTISM
10 Becklow Road, Shepherds Bush
Father Frederick is a soldier
Name: Frederick Arthur Digby
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 23 Apr 1917
Baptism Date: 27 May 1917
Baptism Place: St James Norlands, Kensington, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Frederick Arthur Digby
Mother: Ethel Benice Digby
19## BIRTH
No further information on wife Mary A Falvey, would need to order wedding certificate to be able to research her family
1923 BIRTH
Alfred and John are twins
There are other births from 1917 onwards with a Digby father/Worsley mother combination
Name: Alfred J Digby
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hammersmith
Mother’s Maiden Name: Worsley
1923 BIRTH
John and Alfred are twins
Name: John A Digby
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother’s Maiden Name: Worsley
1921 TO 1927 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTERS
Name: Fred Digby, living with wife Ethel Digby and twin brother Alfred Digby
Year: 1924
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 137 Becklow Road
1925 BIRTH
Name: Leonard A Digby
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother’s Maiden Name: Worsley
1936 DEATH
Name: Ethel Digby
Death Age: 36
Birth Date: abt 1896
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: London
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Name: Frederick Digby
Marital status: Widowed
Birth Date: 20 Jul 1893
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 5 Pansy Gardens
Residence Place: Hammersmith, London, England
Occupation: Packer for Artists Colourman
Household Members:
Leonard A Digby
1939 CENSUS
Name: Benjamin Worsley
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1868
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 72
Residence Place: Wembley, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Retired General Work
Household Members:
Albert Goodchild
Violet P C Goodchild
Thomas Goodchild
Benjamin Worsley
1947 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Mary A Falvey
Year: 1947
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 31 Uxbridge Road, White Horse Pub
https://whatpub.com/pubs/WLD/16420/white-horse-shepherds-bush
A small but distinctive white arched frontage conceals a surprisingly large interior with dark wood panelling to three-quarter height and an ‘L’-shaped bar with a panelled front. The White Horse no longer offers real ale, the handpump on the bar is a mere reminder of the days when it did.
1947 DEATH
Name: Frederick A Digby
Death Age: 53
Birth Date: abt 1894
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: London
1947 MARRIAGE
Name: John A Digby
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Southend on Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Spouse: Mary A Falvey
1952 US BORDER CROSSING
Name: John Alan Digby
Race/Nationality: English
Departure Contact: Wife Mary Ann Digby
Age: 28
Record Type: Cards
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1923
Birth Place: Hammersmith
Birth Country: England
Arrival Date: 21 Mar 1952
Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Hello Anna
Please can you tell us what documentary evidence you have about John P Fleming, private investigator living at Wimpole House, Wharton Road in 1883. Thank you.
Charles Booth Survey
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/17/-0.2176/51.5002/100/0?marker=523819.0,179422.0
Look up Bolingbroke Road, Wharton Road is close by on the map
Wharton Road is now Lakeside Road
1878 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Professor Of Languages
Name: Capt Charles Francis D’Arbois
Publication Year: 1878
Address: Burlington house
Residence Place: Middlesex, England
Occupation: School
1881 Census
Still searching for Wharton Road No.11 and No.64
Does John P Fleming live here working as a private investigator or other documentary evidence
1883 IRISH TIMES
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001683/18831204/068/0002
Militia Military Competitive and Promotion Examinations (Army and Auxiliary Forces).—Lieutenant-Colonel L. Hay Shaw (late Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers) and Captain Ch. D’Arbois (late French Engineers) prepare for above. Officers are received at any time. Apply Wimpole House, Wharton Road. West Kensington Park, W. 28 sent up for Militia Military Competition. 19 successful. -{Advt]
1883
John P Fleming residing at Wimpole House, Wharton Road
Is he a private detective or soldier
1887 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Francis Charles D’Arbois
Year: 1890
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 64 Wharton Road
1890 MORNING POST
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000174/18900426/003/0002
MILITIA COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION September 1890 A captain late of the engineers is prepared to coach privately candidates for the above, highest references, average marks obtained by last 13 pupils, topography, military law, fortification, tactics, Address F R E 11 Wharton Road
1891 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Francis D’Arbois
Year: 1892
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 11 Wharton Road
Street address: 64 is uninhabited
1891 Census
64 Wharton Road is uninhabited
11 Wharton Road Charles F W ‘Arbois, Army Tutor School
Wife Marin
Daughter Minnette
Servant Anne Oldfield
Could the Lieutenant-Colonel and Captain be teaching espionage, spying, private detective work?
1894 Death
Name: Francis Charles D’arbois
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 112
1911 Census
James Donald Hay Shaw
Captain Royal Marine Artillery
Portsmouth
1939 National Register
Commandant Hospital For Officers, Brighton
James Donald Hay Shaw totally disabled ex-officer
Charles Booth Survey
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/17/-0.2176/51.5002/100/0?marker=523819.0,179422.0
Look up Bolingbroke Road, Wharton Road is close by on the map
Wharton Road is now Lakeside Road
1878 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Professor Of Languages
Name: Capt Charles Francis D’Arbois
Publication Year: 1878
Address: Burlington house
Residence Place: Middlesex, England
Occupation: School
1881 Census
Still searching for Wharton Road No.11 and No.64
1883 IRISH TIMES
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001683/18831204/068/0002
Militia Military Competitive and Promotion Examinations (Army and Auxiliary Forces).—Lieutenant-Colonel L. Hay Shaw (late Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers) and Captain Ch. D’Arbois (late French Engineers) prepare for above. Officers are received at any time. Apply Wimpole House, Wharton Road. West Kensington Park, W. 28 sent up for Militia Military Competition. 19 successful. -{Advt]
1887 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Francis Charles D’Arbois
Year: 1890
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 64 Wharton Road
1890 MORNING POST
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000174/18900426/003/0002
MILITIA COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION September 1890 A captain late of the engineers is prepared to coach privately candidates for the above, highest references, average marks obtained by last 13 pupils, topography, military law, fortification, tactics, Address F R E 11 Wharton Road
1891 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Francis D’Arbois
Year: 1892
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 11 Wharton Road
Street address: 64 is uninhabited
1891 Census
64 Wharton Road is uninhabited
11 Wharton Road Charles F W ‘Arbois, Army Tutor School
Wife Marin
Daughter Minnette
Servant Anne Oldfield
1894 Death
Name: Francis Charles D’arbois
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 112
1911 Census
James Donald Hay Shaw
Captain Royal Marine Artillery
Portsmouth
1939 National Register
Commandant Hospital For Officers, Brighton
James Donald Hay Shaw totally disabled ex-officer
1891 Census
64 Wharton Road is uninhabited
11 Wharton Road Charles F W ‘Arbois, Army Tutor School
Wife Marin
Daughter Minnette
Servant Anne Oldfield
Hi Ann
Charles Booth Survey
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/17/-0.2176/51.5002/100/0?marker=523819.0,179422.0
Look up Bolingbroke Road, Wharton Road is close by on the map
As mentioned before Wharton Road is now Lakeside Road
1878 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Professor Of Languages
Name: Capt Charles Francis D’Arbois
Publication Year: 1878
Address: Burlington House
Residence Place: Middlesex, England
Occupation: School
1883 IRISH TIMES
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001683/18831204/068/0002
Militia Military Competitive and Promotion Examinations (Army and Auxiliary Forces).—Lieutenant-Colonel L. Hay Shaw (late Roval Inniskilling Fusiliers) and Captain Ch. D’Arbois (late French Engineers) prepare for above. Officers are received at any time. Apply Wimpole House, Wharton Road. West Kensington Park, W. 28 sent up for Militia Military Competition. 19 successful. -{Advt]
1890 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Francis Charles D’Arbois
Year: 1890
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 64 Wharton Road
1890 MORNING POST
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000174/18900426/003/0002
MILITIA COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION September 1890 A captain late of the engineers is prepared to coach privately candidates for the above, highest references, average marks obtained by last 13 pupils, topography, military law, fortification, tactics, Address F R E 11 Wharton Road
1892 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Francis D’Arbois
Year: 1892
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hammersmith
Street address: 11 Wharton Road, no No.64 exists
1894 Death
Name: Francis Charles D’arbois
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Kensington
1911 Census
James Donald Hay Shaw
Captain Royal Marine Artillery
Portsmouth
1939 National Register
Commandant Hospital For Officers, Brighton
James Donald Hay Shaw totally disabled ex-officer
National Army Museum
https://www.nam.ac.uk/
Could ask about Wimpole House earlier in 1883
Father William Gates
1859 Baptism
Name: William Gates
Baptism Date: 19 Jun 1859
Baptism Place: Elstead, St James, Surrey, England
Father: Benjamin Gates
Mother: Mary Gates
Why say Farnham Kent in 1881!
Farnham Surrey is 5 miles from Elstead Surrey?
Father William Gates
1871 Census
Name: William Gates
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father’s name: Benjamin Gates
Mother’s name: Mary Gates
Where born: Elstead, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Elstead
Household Members:
James Gates 10
Alice Gates 8
Albert Gates 2 Months
Still no sign of him in 1911 or dying
Could he have changed his name?
The houses at Paddenswick Road were demolished for the underground.
List of former and unopened London Underground stations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_and_unopened_London_Underground_stations
Paddenswick Road tube station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddenswick_Road_tube_station
Son George became a professional footballer
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814948.new#new
IVY BUDD
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Husband John Ernest Claude Budd is publican at the Cardinal Pub
Name: Ivy C E Budd
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1913
Address: Cardinal Pub, Tudor Drive
Residence Place: Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Inferred Spouse: John E C Budd
Household Members:
William F White, cellarman
FREDERICK BUDD
1891 CENSUS
https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1884/London1884C4.shtml
https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Paddington/ClevelandArms.shtml
Frederick is the Cleveland Arms Publican
https://www.theclevelandarms.com/
1861 Census Frederick’s father also named Frederick is a musician
1861 Census Frederick is also at Royal Military College, Sandhurst with family
1871 Census Frederick’s father also named Frederick is a billiard marker at the Royal Military College, Sandhurst
Name: Frederic J Budd
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1856
Spouse: Minnie Budd
Child: Florence R Budd
Mabel E Budd
Lilian B Budd
Frederic W Budd
Lodgers: Several lodgers staying at the pub
Birth Place: Fulham, London, England
Civil Parish: Paddington
MARY/MINNIE BUDD
1901 CENSUS
22 Wardo Avenue
Minnie nickname for Mary
Husband Frederick is a clerk
Name: Minnie Budd
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Wife
Spouse: Frederick J Budd
Birth Place: St Pancras, London, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Children: Florence R Budd 16
Mabel E Budd 14
John E C Budd 2
Other: Constance T Taylor 14
William C Kerby 33
William Kerby 56
FREDERICK BUDD
1910 BURIAL
Name: Frederic John Budd
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1910
Burial or Cremation Date: 12 Nov 1910
Burial or Cremation Place: Kensington and Chelsea, London, England
URL: https://www.deceasedonline.com…
JOHN BUDD
1911 CENSUS
Mary/Minnie is now a widow
Name: John Ernest Claude Budd
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Son
Birth Place: FULHAM, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Household Members:
Mary Budd 48
Florence Rose Budd 25
Mabel Elizabeth Budd 23
Constance Louise Taylor 23
William Claude Kerby 43
MARY/MINNIE BUDD
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Name: Mary Budd
Marital status: Widowed
Birth Date: 31 Mar 1862
Address: 8 Durrell Road
Residence Place: Fulham, London, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Household Members:
Mabel E Budd
Mary James
Florence R James
IVY BUDD
1948 LONDON ELECTORAL DIRECTORY
Name: Ivy C Budd
Year: 1948
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Fulham East and West
Street address: 8 Durrell Road
JOHN BUDD
1952 BURIAL
Name: John Ernest Claude Budd
Death Date: 16 Mar 1952
Cemetery: Brompton Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: West Brompton, Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, Greater London, England
urL https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/125910300/john-ernest_claude-budd
MABEL BUDD
1972 BURIAL
Name: Mabel Elizabeth Budd
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1972
Burial or Cremation Date: 11 Dec 1972
Burial or Cremation Place: Kensington and Chelsea, London, England
URL:https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=5830502
Hello Maggie
Charles Booth Survey
Matheson Road
Middle Class Well To Do
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/16/-0.2064/51.4927/100/0?marker=524647.0,178679.0
Hello Debra
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/63740545/maude-elizabeth-rooke
British Newspaper Archive
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=%22maude%20rooke%22&phrasesearch=maude%20rooke&retrievecountrycounts=false&sortorder=score
No articles come up about her performances using various name combinations unless she used a stage name or local archives have newspapers that are not on here or other records about her singing and playing
V&A Theatre Collection
https://www.vam.ac.uk/collections/theatre-performance
May have details of her performances
Hello Steve
You’re absolutely right, the house at Paddenswick Road were demolished for the underground.
List of former and unopened London Underground stations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_and_unopened_London_Underground_stations
Paddenswick Road tube station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddenswick_Road_tube_station
Father William must have found plenty of work in London in the 1900s for building roads, canals, buildings, railways, underground, bridges, viaducts, tunnels.
My own great-grandmother who abandoned her children, had been previously married and so had older children from her first husband. The older step-brother and step-sister tried to take care of their younger step-brothers but couldn’t cope with them working or affording the extra mouths to feed and clothe. The Gates older siblings also had their own work responsibilities.
When children were taken into care at that time, did their siblings know where they were, were they allowed to keep in contact through visits or letters.
Later the older step-children who had no blood-ties to their step-father, took him in later in life before he was sent to Horton Asylum and buried in Horton Pauper Cemetery in 1953 just before it was closed for further burials in 1955, each grave holding three or four bodies.
It must be awful to desert your children or be forced to abandon them.
My great-grandmother deserted her husband, taking her youngest child and leaving behind the other children, the two older children stayed at home but the two younger children were put into a care home until they were old to come home, their father never remarried, their mother remarried to the man she had lived with since the 1930’s when her husband died in the 1950’s, the children were so unkempt they begged for scraps of food from the shopkeepers below.
At least the deserted Gates children were given shelter, food, clothes and later a trade.
My granddad said the same, that he and his brother were taught skills at the home for their working lives, as their crippled father who had become an alcoholic trying to control his pain was able to work less and less.
Please help find father William Gates who deserted his children in 1911 census and beyond.
Please help son George Gates in 1911 census and beyond.
Please help find son William Gates in 1911 census and beyond.
Was it really ‘desertion’ or necessity to be able to work?
1881 Census
William Gates, excavator, 27 South Street, Hammersmith
Living in the home of George Packer with future wife Ellen Packer
George Packer is an excavator employing four men
Ellen Packer is a general servant
The Packer family are from Somerset
William Gates is from Farnham Kent but later says Elstead Surrey
1881 Marriage
William Gates, labourer, 27 South Street, Hammersmith
Ellen Packer, 27 South Street, Hammersmith
Father Benjamin Gates, labourer
Father: George Packer, labourer
1883 Baptism
George James Gates
17 Buttermilk Cottages, Hammersmith
William, labourer
1888 Baptism
Emily May Gates, twin
Albert Edward Gates, twin
52 Nasmyth Street
William, labourer
1891 Baptism
William Ernest Gates
13 Paddenswick Road
William, labourer
1891 Census
Name: William Gates, bricklayers labourer
Birth Year: 1858
Spouse: Ellen Gates
Child: George Gates, Ada Gates, May Gates, Albert Gates
Birth Place: Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Hammersmith, 13 Paddenswick Road
1892 Baptism
Charles Ernest Gates
13 Paddenswick Road
William, labourer
1901 Census
Name: William Gates, navvy
https://drainfast.co.uk/blog/navvys-life-look-life-navigators-shaped-britain/
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Birth Place: Elstead, Surrey, England
Spouse: Ellen Gates
Civil Parish: Hammersmith, 13 Paddenswick Road
Children: George Gates, Emily M Gates, Albert S Gates, William E Gates, Charles H Gates
Visitors: Jane Stride from Somerset, Alice Morris from Elstead
1901 Death
Name: Ellen Gates
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 40
Registration district: Fulham
1902 Poor Law District School Registers/Admission
Charles Gates
William Gates
William has deserted the younger children at Ashford School, West London District, father William unknown
1908 Poor Law District School Registers/Discharge
Charles Gates to service, baker
William Gates to service, baker
Was expecting the children to be sent abroad to populate our commonwealth countries
1911 Census
Father William Gates, unable to find
Son George unable to find
Son Albert is lodging in St Pancras, shop porter
Daughter Emily is living in Lambeth, housemaid
Son William, unable to find, in service baker
Son Charles is living in Walhamstow, in service baker
1939 National Register
William living in Battersea, master baker
Hello Dorothy
I do apologise, 7 Grove Terrace does exist on the 1891 census and London Electoral Registers, found another way to look up
No nurse for children domestic found but evidence of the address, perhaps she lodged there just before/after the census
1891 Census
Living at 7 Grove Terrace
Name: William Morgan, Grocer’s Assistant
Birth Year: 1862
Birth Place: Hanley, Gloucestershire, England
Spouse: Nelly Morgan, Wales
Child: Gwen S Morgan, William A Morgan
Civil Parish: Fulham
1891 Census
Living at 6 Grove Terrace
Name: George A Marshall, landlord
Birth Year: 1835
Birth Place: Huntingdonshire, Yorkshire, England
Spouse: Ann Marshall
Child: Julia Marshall, George E Marshall
Grandchild: Kate A Watson
Civil Parish: Fulham
1892 & 1893 & 1894
LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
William Morgan
7 Grove Terrace
Two Rooms, Second Floor, Unfurnished
Landlord George A Marshall 7 Grove Terrace
CHARLES BOOTH SURVEY – MAP
Search for Matheson Road, Grove Terrace is a tiny little terrace next to Lawn Terrace at the end of the road
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/18/-0.2092/51.4923/100/0?marker=523982.0,178714.0
According to legend, fairly comfortable, good ordinary earnings
CHARLES BOOTH SURVEY – NOTEBOOKS
Very small comment, can’t read
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/notebooks/b361#?cv=53&c=0&m=0&s=0&z=-175.0427%2C0%2C2748.0855%2C1493
MODERN MAP
Not on map
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Matheson+Rd,+Hammersmith,+London/@51.4932196,-0.2071134,18z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760f94a8d9ef9f:0xecc932035f0d6b9!8m2!3d51.4932196!4d-0.2060164
FULHAM LOCAL ARCHIVES
Ask Fulham Local Archives about the ARP Air Raid Precaution Reports about what bombings took place during the war in that area
TUBERCULOSIS MALNUTRITION AND WASTING
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10929675
Malnutrition predisposes to tuberculosis, and tuberculosis causes ‘consumption’. Starting from current advances and historic findings in epidemiology and immunology, we can hope to decipher the effects of macro- and micronutrient deficiency upon tuberculosis, the contribution of immune response to the pathogenesis of wasting, and the best approach to its treatment.
MALNUTRITION IN TUBERCULOSIS
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10354866
Tuberculosis has a dramatic effect on nutritional state and this has been borne out in all the studies that have investigated body composition in affected patients. I have included some of the key studies in this review; those I have not cited generally reach the same conclusions. Such malnutrition undoubtedly contributes to the morbidity of the disease and may also contribute to mortality, particularly in resource-poor settings where nutritional state, even in the “healthy,” may be parlous. The extent to which such malnutrition also contributes to pathology remains unclear. Certainly, in other models, nutritional depletion has a major impact on immune function (Chandra, 1997) and depression of lymphocyte function cannot be a desirable commodity in an individual fighting invasive mycobacterial infection. Considering the reverse relationship, there is good evidence, both at the population level and at the clinical level, for the effect of primary malnutrition on tuberculosis, both to increase frequency of occurrence and to exacerbate clinical manifestations. It has not been possible to explore this relationship within the context of this paper but it is clearly an important aspect of the bi-directional relationship between tuberculosis and malnutrition. There is still more to be understood about the pathophysiology of the wasting seen in chronic infections such as tuberculosis but it is clear that, in addition to good anti-tuberculous therapy, such patients need a good supply of nutrition during the treatment/recovery phase. In the developed world, this may include medical measures to achieve nutritional support whereas in resource-poor settings, nutritional intake may have more to do with equitable resource distribution and community involvement in health care.
Hello Susan
My elderly neighbour in his 80’s just happened to mention that he was evacuated from London as a little boy to his family’s pig farm on the Suffolk/Norfolk border during World War Two – but once the war was over that part of the family lost touch. I went onto Ancestry and found the farm and family in various records – fortunately the family were using Ancestry so was able to send them a message – and my neighbour was reunited with them.
The 1939 National Register and London Electoral Registers will have your family listed, possibly military records from World War Two and other records – if your family are using Ancestry can contact them.
The Salvation Army can help with family tracing
https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/family-tracing
Hello Anne
Online versions:
Charles James Feret
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_James_Feret
Fulham Old & New
Volume I
https://archive.org/details/b29010433_0001/page/n6
Volume II
https://archive.org/details/b29010433_0002/page/n5
Volume III
https://archive.org/details/b29010433_0003/page/n5
Hello Dorothy
Please could you supply:
Grandfather’s full name, birth if known, birth place if known
Sister’s full name, birth if known, birth place if known
I don’t think 7 Grove Terrace is the full address, as also does not come up on Charles Booth Survey or the London Electoral Registers, where did you get the address from, if the census need to look at the image again for the full address
Charles Booth West Kensington
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/16/-0.2074/51.4921/100/0?marker=524548.0,178536.0
FROM DEVON TO FULHAM & HAMMERSMITH TO NEW ZEALAND
1855 BIRTH
John Sussex Ayshford born in Devon
Father John Ayshford
Mother Harriet Sussex
1861 CENSUS
John Sussex Ayshford, father John wheelwright
1883 DAILY TELEGRAPH & COURIER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001112/18830301/093/0010
Fancy Draper – Young Lady Wanted – with knowledge of millinery preferred – apply to Ashford and Co, 106 Fulham Road, South Kensington
1883 MARRIAGE
John Sussex Ayshford marries in Kensington
Wife Charlotte Knight
1883 BIRTH
Name: Male Ayshford
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 173
1883 DEATH
Name: Male Ayshford
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 115
Brother Harry Blake Ayshford also moves to London and is involved with woollen drapery
Other members of the Ayshford family also move to London
1886 COMMERCIAL GAZETTE
https://newspaperarchive.com/commercial-gazette-oct-21-1886-p-16/
Notices Of Expected Dividends
John Sussex Ayshford, trading as Ayshford & Co, 106 Fulham Road, South Kensington, fancy draper. Proofs by Nov 4 Tr R P Harding Chief Official Receiver 33 Carey Street, Lincolns Inn
1886 SOUTH LONDON PRESS
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000213/18860814/179/0016
Bankrupt
1891 CENSUS
Living 24 Elm Gardens, Hammersmith
John Sussex Ayshford, drapers assistant, born Devon
Wife Charlotte Ayshford
1901 CENSUS
397 New Kings Road, Fulham
John Sussex Ayshford, oriental dealer, own account, born Devon
Where is Charlotte
1910 NEW ZEALAND POLICE GAZETTES
John Sussex Ayshford, offence failing to keep proper books, sentence one month without labour
1911 CENSUS
Charlotte Ayshford, living with brother Joseph Knight a retired cashier in Poole, Dorset
Charlotte and John had one child who died
1920 DEATH
Charlotte Ayshford, Christchurch, Hampshire
1924 BIRTH
John Sussex Ayshford has a daughter Hope Margary Ayshford with Margary May Drummond, John was 69, Margary was 39 in New Zealand
Margary had a twin sister and herself was born to an older father who was 63 at the time of her birth and her mother being 39 when she was born
1937 DEATH
John Sussex Ayshford died in New Zealand
Hello Donna
Fulham & Hammersmith Local Archives will have details of the ARP Air Raid Precautions reports of each bombing.
Hello,
I am trying to find out what sort of building existed at 180, Westway, Hammersmith in January 1967.
I believe my grandfather, Richard Andrew Wragg died at this address and that it might have been a nursing home.
Would you know what would be the best way to find out?
I live in Australia so have to search online.
Many thanks,
Carolyn Wragg.
Hello Carolyn
The burial register might say more about the address
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=6377471
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westway_(London)
I think you might have to ask Local Archives
The 1965 London Electoral Register doesn’t have an 180 Westway but if a care home perhaps the residents weren’t able to vote, so weren’t registered, no other houses have lots of residents in case the houses had been re-numbered
Lorraine,
It’s unrelated to this subject because I couldn’t find it anywhere on here but I had a notification that you’d replied to someone about not being able to find Grove Terrace. It was at the Northern End of the Grove House Estate at the West Ken. end of North End Road and would have been near where Edith Road is now.
Thank you Caroline. So was Grove Terrace bombed out during the war or demolished in more modern times.
Found Grove Terrace in the end on Charles Booth survey next to Lawn Terrace.
Having problems too, sometimes can see replies, sometimes can’t.
Just looked up Kellys PO directory for 1967. 180 is a Hammersmith council carehome.
John for FHHS
Hiya Im wondering can anyone help me? Im looking for a Theresa Adams (maiden name). From Fulham lived in Kenyon street.
Thanks
Charlotte
Thank you for your help with this Laundry issue, I really appreciated it and will follow follow this up with the links that you have provided.
My kind regards.
My pleasure!
I have found an article about my Grandfather, who was held on remand in 1916, at 16 years old, I can’t find record of this on national archive or ancestry, any chance anyone can point me in the right direction, his name was Herbert victor feathers, from Hammersmith
Hello
On Ancestry:
1897 Baptism
Grace Theodora Feathers
Sister of Herbert
1900 Birth
Herbert Victor Feathers:
Lambeth
1900 Baptism
Herbert Victor Feathers
Lambeth
Father Alfred Feathers
Mother Sarah Ann Feathers
1901 Census
Bertie FETHERS living in Hammersmtih, Fulham with both parents and six siblings
Father is a stone mason
Daughter Ada works for a tobaccanist
1904 Death
Mother died
1911 Census
Living with sisters Lilian and Grace Feathers in 89 Uxbridge Road, Fulham, Hammersmith, father is working away in Staffordshire
1914-1918
Herbert Victor Feathers
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Duke of Cambridge’s Own (Middlesex) Regiment
Regimental Number: L/19214
Previous Units: 205316. 2/2nd Lond. R. Pte
No medals, in a state of desertion
https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/middlesex-regiment-duke-cambridges-own
You could ask the National Army Musuem what this means
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_Regiment
1916 West London Observer
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19160707/030/0002
Youthful warehouse breakers
1938 Death
Father dies in Brentford
1918 PRISONER OF WAR
First name(s) Herbert
Last name Feathers
Event date 25 Mar 1918
Service number 247716
Regiment Middlesex Regiment 2nd
Country Great Britain
Document details Prisoners of the First World War, the International Committee of the Red Cross
Reference numbers PA 25186
Prisoners Of The First World War Herbert Feathers PA 25186
https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/List/3655166/698/25186/
Think cousin of your Herbert as born in 1884
Herbert Feathers, Everington Street, Hammersmith
1901 census father Robert a grocer (has a brother Alfred, the father of your Herbert?), in 1871 census Robert and Alfred together
I know of Robert the grocer, but haven’t come across a Herbert 1884, so will keep looking. The article I came across and that’s referenced above says he was held on remand so was hoping there’d be a trace of him. He deserted in ww1, a short a teenager and changed his name illegally so it’s hard to pin down after the desertion. Thanks for you’re help.
Hi
My pleasure!
Robert Feathers the grocer, son Herbert 1884
Alfred Feathers, son Herbert Victor 1900
I think Robert and Alfred are brothers, found a Robert and Alfred together in 1871, making both Herberts cousins – if Robert and Alfred are brothers, all living in the same area
Herbert Victor’s WWI cards show ‘desertion’.
Do you know what he called himself later on, where he lived, what his job was, marriage, children?
I just can’t find a Herbert 1884, did you find him
On ancestry? The rest fits perfectly, he changed his name to (a super common name, thanks grandad) William Albert archer (still Everyone called him bert) he actually legged it up to Scotland and married, had 3/4 children I believe, then he left his wife for my grandmother, who was 30 years his junior! Margaret McDonald (maiden name wood) she was about 18, and from the Glasgow area, which is why it’s super hard to track him because as you’ll know Scotland lock up there documents for a long time
Hi
The Herbert Feathers in the prisoner of war camp is born 1894 and lives at Everington Street, where Robert Feathers lives – I can’t find Herbert Feathers born 1884 anywhere else either – unless this is your Herbert and has given an older birth date and Robert is family he has chosen to give, Herbert prisoner of war has a January birthday, your Herbert has a January birthday.
Between us we’ve cracked it, Albert feathers must have gone by the name Herbert feathers, it’s what my grandad also changed his middle name to from his first name Herbert, (so I guess it’s was the equivalent of James/Jim, William/billy) Albert birthday matches that of Herbert in the army record, and Alberts father was a grocer. I have a pretty sketchy family, using different names on legal docs lol. My grandad Herberts sisters were apparently on stage in the youth, dancing girls, but couldn’t find any info on that, was there a theatre that was in Hammersmith in the 1900’s?
That’s it well spotted, Albert is born in 1884 on 1911 census and ‘Herbert’ is born January 1884 in prisoner of war records, Albert’s birth is registered,Jan-Feb-Mar Quarter 1884. Our ancestors also changed their names on a regular basis only being able to prove by lots of cross-referencing!
Our ancestors were theatrical also, Edward Leslie Court was living in Lillie Road Fulham in 1901 as a private secretary we think to the Empress Theatre as we later find him working as Chief Of Staff at the London Coliseum.
Theatres In Hammersmith
http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Hammersmith.htm
Theatrical Ancestor Research
http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/AncestorResearch.htm
Theatres In Fulham
http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/FulhamTheatres.htm
http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/EmpressHall.htm
Victoria & Albert Museum/Theatre Collection
https://www.vam.ac.uk/collections/theatre-performance
Contact them and ask if they have information on your theatrical relatives, they had information on our relatives
British Newspaper Archive
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
We found our theatrical relatives in various newspapers
Grace Theodora Feathers born 1896, no dancing 1911
Lilian May Feathers born 1893, no dancing 1911
Elsie Alfreda Feathers born 1891 (named after father Alfred), no dancing 1911
Frances Edith Feathers born 1889, no dancing 1911
Florence May Feathers born 1888, no dancing 1911
Ada Dora Feathers born 1886, no dancing in 1911
Nothing in the newspapers but they could have been using middle names, pet names, stage names, found our ancestors using stage names
We found our theatrical ancestors just by typing their names or with the word ‘theatre’.
West London Observer 1916
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19160707/030/0002
WEDNESDAY — Before Mr. de Grey. YOUTHFUL WAREHOUSE-BREAKERS, Charles Wm. Holloway, 15, cinema attendant, of 79, Willow Vale, Shepherd’s Hush, and Herbert Victor Feathers. 16, errand boy, of 33, Tabor Road, Hammersmith, were charged with being concerned in breaking into a warehouse at 135 The Arches Ravenscourt Park, between Saturday night, the 1st inst., and Sunday morning, the 2nd inst., and stealing a pair of field glasses, a cheque book, and a mackintosh, of the total value of £10, belonging to Mr. A. J. Payne, of A. and W. Payne, motor launch builders. Mr. Payne said the place was safely locked up on Saturday night, and on Sunday evening witness was called to the place, and found it had been broken into. The back door had been forced, and the office was in contusion, the rolltop desk having been broken open and the contents scattered about. The property mentioned in the charge was missing. Det-Sergt. Brown stated that Feathers, when arrested, said, ” We were both there,” and Holloway said, ” We sold the glasses for a shilling.” The witness added that other charges of housebreaking would be brought against the prisoners and his Worship accordingly ordered a remand.
Herbert Victor Feathers case was heard by West London Police Court
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/5d2db9d5-754b-4a70-bd1c-428dc40d24cc
National Archives
Administrative / biographical background:
This court was originally opened in Kensington (1 Church Court) in approximately 1841. It was known as the Kensington Police Court and administered jointly with Wandsworth Police Court. It was moved to Brook Green Lane, Hammersmith in 1843 and became known as the Hammersmith Police Court. In 1859 it moved to the Junction of Vernon Street and Southcombe Street, West Kensington. In 1889 it was administratively separated from Wandsworth and became known as the West London Police Court
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a/A13532670
Records held at London Metropolitan Archives
HM Prison Wormwood Scrubs (informally “The Scrubs”) is a Category B men’s prison located in the Wormwood Scrubs area of the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, in West London, England. The prison is operated by Her Majesty’s Prison Service.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Prison_Wormwood_Scrubs
Write to the Governor to find out where the 1916 archives are stored, but you would need to look at the court case papers first to see if he was sent on remand to the ‘local’ prison HM Wormwood Scrubs
Hello Keith – me again, more experienced this time!
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001984/19370611/094/0005
FELL FROM LADDER Fatal Accident to Steward on S.S. Fulham. McCarthy, deputy coroner, opened inquest at Hammersmith Coroner s Court yesterday (Thursday), on Henry John Koven (48), 226 Poplar. The deputy coroner said that deceased was a steward on the s.s. Fulham. Saturday morning while descending ladder from the jetty at Fulham Power Station he overbalanced and tell into the river. ‘The ladder also fell.” said the Deputy Coroner, ” and he received serious injuries from which he died the same morning. It will be necessary to adjourn the inquest because the ship will not return to London until Monday. A son, Henry William John Koven. railway porter. 226 High-. Poplar. said that deceased was accustomed to seafaring work, having been in the Navy during the War. Ho was fairly healthy and was not subject to fits or giddiness. ‘I would like to know if this ladder was secured,” said witness. The Deputy Coroner: I have evidence of that until the case is dealt with. The inquest was adjourned until Monday.
FULHAM POWER STATION
S.S. FULHAM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulham_Power_Station
The first three flatirons, of nearly 1,600 GRT each, were launched in 1935–37 as SS Fulham, Fulham II and Fulham III.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatiron_(ship)
Fulham Chronice, Friday 18 June 1937
Accidental Death due to faulty rope
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001984/19370618/040/0003
Fuller story and completes the inquest report.
Hi I am hoping u may be able to help in my research of my great grandfather Ralph Pearson. It is my belief from his marriage & death certificate that he was born in Hammersmith in 1849 to a John Pearson & Elizabeth Pearson nee Shelton. I cannot find any immigration records for him but he was married in Australia in 1884 & I have no information prior to that. He is a mystery & I would truly appreciate any help u could offer. In Australia he called his property “Nottingdale” & I think this may be significant. He died in Australia in 1920. Thank u so much Cheers Linda
Hello Linda
Notting Dale is an area in London.
http://hidden-london.com/gazetteer/notting-dale/
https://www.silchesterestate.org.uk/about-us/notting-dale-history/
https://www.theundergroundmap.com/article.html?id=953
https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2017/june/in-notting-dale
Hello Linda
Notting Dale is an area in London.
http://hidden-london.com/gazetteer/notting-dale/
https://www.silchesterestate.org.uk/about-us/notting-dale-history/
https://www.theundergroundmap.com/article.html?id=953
https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2017/june/in-notting-dale
View at Medium.com
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol37/pp340-355
I have been unable to find Ralph Pearson born 1849 Hammersmith with his parents John and Elizabeth, so suggest asking a general family history forum to help alongside FFHS
Rootschat are excellent, there are others also
https://www.rootschat.com/
Did you get my previous similar reply, having problems with my posts.
Thank u so much for getting back to me Lorraine. Sorry I didn’t get your previous similar post. Ralph is our brick wall Cheers Linda
My pleasure Linda
It does seem that some posts are not being saved by the software, I keep my research in Word now just in case for re-posting.
Other times I see other people’s replies, then another times I don’t – can’t be only one having this problem?
Hello Linda
Have looked at Ralph’s Australian marriage certificate and Australian death certificate. The details are so clear – but still Ralph and his parents are not showing up in England, London!
Ralph named his home Notting Dale – that’s Kensington & Chelsea, not Hammersmith & Fulham, so please contact their local archives and local historical group and local family history group
Unfortunately some people’s records disappear for all manner of reasons
Hopefully this thread will also help to solve the mystery!
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815425.new#new
Ralph is found Linda, well done for providing such informative facts and useful information that’s helped crack the case!
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815425.new#new
A baptism for John Ralph Shilton (Shelton) at Hammersmith, 19 Jan 1849, son of John and Elizabeth (maiden name Croucher)
In 1871 census Ralph living with wife Sarah (Coleman who he had married in 1868) in Portland Road, NOTTING DALE!
Thank u so very very much. It is really appreciated. I was so excited to receive the news of finding Ralph, I was shaking. A big thank u to all who helped solve our family brick wall. Cheers Linda
Our pleasure!
The information you have about Ralph, is it just from looking up records or do you have the actual physical records.
Do you have Ralph’s death certificate with extra information, i.e. how long in the colonies
I have his Australian marriage and death certificate. Would love a copy of his birth & marriage certificate in England. How can I get.
Your family member on Ancestry
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/21019175/person/1023983242/story
Only the 1849 baptism comes up, actually born in 1848
It is possible the birth wasn’t registered
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Register_Office_for_England_and_Wales
Can order the 1868 marriage certificate
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
HI Lorraine his death certificate states that he lived in Australian states “between 40 and 50 years Queensland and New South Wales”.
Thank you Linda
Hi Lorraine. I have the physical documents of Ralph in Australia. Eg marriage & death certificas. The roots web site matches my research in Australia to the tee in that married in Deepwater to Eliza aka Seib & marriage registered in Glenn Innes NSW. That his first son William was registered in Tenterfield & second son John registered in Queanbeyan. He also selected blocks of land at Biarra & Coolabunia. Tis his life prior to Australia I have spent years researching to no avail. However if he was born Shelton & not Pearson gives me more research options. Again I can’t thank u
Enough
I posed the question why use Pearson, would it be a family maiden name and Rootschat found a John Shelton getting married to an Elizabeth Pearson in Derbyshire – so is this the answer to the puzzle – on the Ancestry tree Elizabeth is Croucher – are they two different women, Elizabeth Pearson died or the same woman and had a link to Croucher – Ralph is one of the younger children so if Elizabeth Pearson is the ‘first’ wife, presumably he would be the child of the second Elizabeth Croucher? Don’t know? A conundrum, can ask your relative for clues now!
Hello Linda
Birth registration for John Ralph
Why use Pearson
John Ralfe
Shilton
Birth year 1849
Birth quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother’s maiden name Crowcher
District Kensington
Keep an eye on Rootschat, still trying to find information for you and/or sign up to thread for updates like for FHHS
Ancestry Ralph Family Trees
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/780532/person/25124928403/story?ssrc=
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/21019175/person/1023983242/story?ssrc=
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/36046513/person/29782777990/story?ssrc=
Best regards
HI lorraine I cannot find a link to why he Ralph would have changed his name. Just with all the research cannot find anything under Pearson in regards to him or his parents in Middlesex. I so appreciate the ongoing support to help solve our brick wall. I have tried to join the rootschat with no success. Will keep trying & thanks again. Cheers Linda thank u for the links gives me more research items
Hi Linda
There may be no link it may just be a name he chose
but quite often when people changed their names they would use family maiden names or children would be baptised with their father’s name and mother’s maiden name
e.g.
Father Paul Perkins
Mother Maddie Perkins (nee Devlon)
Child Mathew Devlon Perkins
All the best
Hi
I am trying to work out why a 16 year old girl, from a relatively well of Yorkshire family died at 35 Addison Gardens Fulham. Her name was Mary Ann Bertha Ickringill who died on 23 November 1891 of an ulcer of the stomach. Cause of death certified by F A Low MB. Do you have any information about this property and its use in 1891?
Thanking you for your time and in hope of some answers.
Liz Egginton
Hello Liz
This is 35 Addison Gardens
https://www.google.com/maps/place/35+Addison+Gardens,+Hammersmith,+London+W14+0DP/@51.5013976,-0.2166638,3a,75y,124.89h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjdzwoPZsT677gbQRvG9sEg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x48760fc383e230f9:0x376ed0b35b3db6f0!2s35+Addison+Gardens,+Hammersmith,+London+W14+0DP!3b1!8m2!3d51.5013419!4d-0.2164854!3m4!1s0x48760fc383e230f9:0x376ed0b35b3db6f0!8m2!3d51.5013419!4d-0.2164854
In the 1901 census and 1911 census a wealthy stockbroker Magnus Schaap is living there with his family and servants, couldn’t find address in 1891 census or London Electoral Registers, Magnus is living in Paddington in 1891 census
Peptic Ulcer In Infancy & Childhood
Click to access 82.full.pdf
Three fatal cases of stomach ulcer 1891
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1517061
Charles Booth
Addison Road, middle class, well to do
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/18/-0.2174/51.5010/100/0?marker=523829.0,179518.0
Could have been severe Crohn’s, could have been perforated ulcer, poor girl, not much could be done then, only 16
Hello
I am looking for any information from anybody who may have known or has connection with John Robert Harvey who ran an antiques company “London and County Antiques” with his partner Jack Tully from 299 Lillie Road Fulham SW6 in the early 1970’s (certainly until 1974).
I would be enormously grateful for any help…
Best Regards
Neil Jones
Hello
I am looking for any information from anybody who may have known or has connection with John Robert Harvey who ran an antiques company “London and County Antiques” with his partner Jack Tully from 299 Lillie Road Fulham SW6 in the early 1970’s (certainly until 1974).
I would be enormously grateful for any help…
Best Regards
Neil Jones
Dear Sir/Madam, I am researching information for one of my brother in laws to give to him on his 80th birthday, later this year, and am hoping you can help with three questions. I believe that my brother in laws Great, Great Grandfather, Edward Maishman {possibly baptised Isaac Edward Jermiah Maishman} married Ann Keilbach at Kensington in the last quarter of 1851. Others believe that they married on the 27th Oct 1851 at Hammersmith Baptist Chapel. I can find no record of the Baptist Chapel marriage and hope that you can help. My second question concerns Ann Keilbach, I believe that she was born to Nathaniel & Pepfepenny Keilbach in 1828/29. Others believe that her father was John Keilbach, they seem to have found this information on the marriage document Again, I can find no original document of an Ann Keilbach born 1828/29 to a father, John, nor can I find an original marriage document for Ann’s marriage to Edward at either Kensington or Hammersmith and again hope you can help. Lastly, Edward Maishman who at one time was a police officer at Millman Row and his wife Ann both appear to have died at exactly the same time and place, 1st quarter 1856 at Kensington. This is out of the ordinary and hopefully you can throw some light on this as well.
Regards. B Ekins
Hello Brian
This link details the family members of Edward Maishman
http://sites.rootsweb.com/~maishman/Stephen1/RR01/RR01_003.htm
1851 CENSUS
Edward Maishman police constable, Millman Row Police Station
1851 OLD BAILEY
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18510303-697
EDWARD MAISHMAN (policeman, V 111.) On 11th Feb., about twenty minutes to five o’clock, the prisoner was given in custody by his brother, for stealing a purse and six sovereigns, belonging to his uncle—be begged his brother not to give him in charge, but to let some one else give him in charge—I took him—he told me he had taken it, and it was a bad job, that he went to Chatham, and it was all taken from him at a house in the Brook, and it had never done him any good.
1851 MARRIAGE
Marries Ann Keilbach, Kensington
Edward’s father is a bookmaker
1852 BIRTH
Son Edward Chelsea
1852 OLD BAILEY
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18521025-1022
EDWARD MAISHMAN (policeman, V 111). I know this shoe belonged to Jones—he was brought into the station on the Saturday previous to the bur-glary—I saw this button, and this patch on it—it hurt his heel, and it is cut down in this part—I am a shoemaker, and I took particular notice of it.
Jones. It is not my shoe. Witness. I have not a shadow of a doubt of it
1854 BIRTH
Son Robert Kensington
1855 DEATH
Son Robert Chelsea
1855 BIRTH
Daughter Anne Maishman, Kensington
1856 BAPTISM
Daughter Anne Fulham
1856 DEATH
Daughter Ann Kensington
1856 CRIMINAL REGISTER
Name: Edward Maishman
Date of Trial: 21 Jan 1856
Trial Year: 1856
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Acquittal
1856 DEATH
You will need to order death certificate to find out more
Name: Edward Maishman
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 82
1861 CENSUS
I believe mother Ann and son Edward are found under Marshman with Ann working as a dressmaker in Chelsea
CHOLERA PANDEMIC
You would need to order the death certificates but as we know there were outbreaks of many diseases during Victorian times particularly in London
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1846%E2%80%931860_cholera_pandemic
Hello Brian
1800s BAPTISM
Ann Keilbach, father John (from marriage certificate)
May not have been baptised
1851 CENSUS
Census done on 30 March
Edward is with other police officers
1851 CENSUS
Census done on 30 March
Ann will be with or without her family, unable to find her or with father John
1851 MARRIAGE
Need to order marriage certificate, getting married 27 October at Hammersmith Baptist Church with father John Keilbach will be found within this document
Name: Edward Maishman
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 3
Page: 427
Records on Page:
Name
Ann Keilbach
West Kensington straddles the border between the boroughs of Hammersmith & Fulham and Kensington & Chelsea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Kensington
1856 BAPTISM
Private baptism
Name: Anne Maishman
Gender: Female
Spouse: Edward Isaac Jeremiah Maishman
Child: Anne Maishman
1856 DEATH
Need to order death certificate
Name: Edward Maishman
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 82
The Potteries and the Bramley Road area and the Rise of the Housing Problem in North Kensington
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol37/pp340-355
1856 DEATH
Need to order death certificate, wife or daughter
Name: Ann Maishman
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 84
Otherwise Rootschat can help
https://www.rootschat.com/
Hello Brian
Keep an eye on this thread, more experienced researchers may come up with something more and you can add information to the thread
Rootschat
Keilbach & Maishman Family – Double Death
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814590.new#new
Hi,
My name is Dan. I’m trying to find where my parents got married in Hammersmith in 1969. I have a photo of them entering the registry office ( i presume). However I cannot match this to buildings now.
I wonder if you could offer any guidance. Has the registry office for marriages changed since 1969. Was it then at the town hall?
The photo shows the edge of the building has thick white bands and then two thin white bands. If anyone is good at building spotting I’d love to hear from them.
Many thanks for your time,
Dan.
Please forward photograph file to history@allsaints-fulham.org.uk.thanks, and will try to sort out venue.
That’s great. Thanks i’ve sent over an email. Hope you get it. Do you know where the registry office was prior to it being in the current town hall in Hammersmith?
Many thanks,
Dan
Unless it has changed in recent years, it is currently opposite the side of the Town Hall. I think that before that it was in Hammersmith Road.
Thanks for the message. Do you know whereabouts on Hammersmith Road it was. Did my email with pictures come through? Thanks, dan.
As far as I remember, it was near Nazareth House and St Paul’s School. I’ll see if my sister remembers. No. I didn’t see the picture.
My sister thinks I might be mistaken about Hammersmith Road. Please can you remind me of the approximate date? I wish I could see the picture.
Back to my original thought that it was in Hammersmith Road!
Extract from a novel Ghost Girl by Lesley Thomson…”Travelling towards the lights on Hammersmith Road, passing the site of the registry office – long gone – where her parents had married in 1966….”
I am trying to find the exact date and possi;le newspaper report of an Australian woman Beverley Dewhurst who drowned, aged 22, in the Thames in 1962 (probably July).
Any in formation greatly appreciated
It might be best to enquire of the Australian High Commision to get a date, you could then search local papers at the relevant borough Archive or the British Library.
Further, I have just checked Free BMD see link which gives the following info:
Deaths Sep 1962
DEWHURST Beverley A. 22 Fulham Vol 5c page 409
So this may give you a starting point for papers. The Sep date is actually the Quarter year so you will have to send for the certificate or sign up for Ancestry or Find My Past. The Hammersmith and Fulham Archive may be able to find more info – email is archives@lbhf.gov.uk . Also just seen your email address is in Aus so physically looking at papers is not an option. Google Ancestry etc to get your local version.
Hello FHHS
My work is constantly disappearing, now not posting and not even saying for review, along with post I was replying to disappearing.
Think software needs reviewing to make most of your fascinating site, like rootschat forum.
Other times gets reviewed and can see, so inconsistent.
Hello FHHS
Not sure if this is the answer to some posts going through and others disappearing – is it because some users no longer belong to the forum? If this is so, makes sense, but annoying as you don’t know who is and who isn’t active when putting a post through? Shame also as the posts bring up amazing local history and family history
Extract from newspaper……We planned to marry. He added that Beverley left the fiat, at Avonmore-road. Fulham. last Saturday morning— to live somewhere else. The coroner’s verdict: Beverley killed herself. a Beverley Dewhurst …
Published: Saturday 04 August 1962
Newspaper: Daily Mirror
County: London, England
Type: Illustrated | Words: 262 | Page: 6 | Tags: none
Thank you
Can anyone help with information on possible links between the Hammersmith workhouse and the cotton mills in Bolton? I am currently researching an ancestor Rose Beard b 1868. Her family were in very straightened circumstances and she appears in the 1881 census in Rumworth Bolton as a cotton mill operative age 14 boarding with a number of other London born girls. There is an Industrial school at Rumworth (Lostock) but this was only for boys in the 1870s. Can anyone point me to some fruitful areas of research to find out how she might have found herself so far away from home?
This is from the Spartacus-educational.com website…see it for full account, but gives a possible indication of what could have happened
Many parents were unwilling to allow their children to work in these new textile factories. To overcome this labour shortage factory owners had to find other ways of obtaining workers. One solution to the problem was to buy children from orphanages and workhouses. The children became known as pauper apprentices. This involved the children signing contracts that virtually made them the property of the factory owner.
John Brown, the author of Robert Blincoe’s Memoir, explained how eighty children were taken from St. Pancras Workhouse: “In the summer of 1799 a rumour circulated that there was going to be an agreement between the church wardens and the overseers of St. Pancras Workhouse and the owner of a great cotton mill, near Nottingham. The children were told that when they arrived at the cotton mill, they would be transformed into ladies and gentlemen: that they would be fed on roast beef and plum pudding, be allowed to ride their masters’ horses, and have silver watches, and plenty of cash in their pockets. In August 1799, eighty boys and girls, who were seven years old, or were considered to be that age, became parish apprentices till they had acquired the age of twenty-one.
Hi historyaschurchfulham
Thanks for this. My ancestor Rose was the middle child of 3. Her mother had died, followed by her father a year later leaving her 20 year old stepmother with 4 children under 12. The stepmother Sarah married the children’s uncle Frederick but they were very poor. Rose ended up in a cotton mill in Bolton so I’m wondering if anyone has any knowledge of the workhouse/guardian arrangements that might have led to her going. This would have been in the 1870s. I appreciate the “buying” of apprentices in the late C18th and early C19th but was this more organised in the 1870s? The family lived between Bradmore Park Rd and Southerton Rd. Does anyone know what jurisdiction they might have fallen within or what authorities might have been involved in sending a young girl away, and indeed what records there might be?
Many Thanks
Joanne,
I don’t know whether this helps at all.
I think Bradmore Park Road and Southerton Road, both W6, were still part of the Parish of Fulham until 1900 when Hammersmith got its first mayor.
) The 1881 Census show a Beard family (Frederick, Sarah, Alice and Florence) at 54, Southerton Road.
2) A Rose Jane M Beard married a Robert McCartney in Bolton, Lancashire in 1889.
3) The 1901 Census shows a Rosey McCartney (born Hammersmith) with a husband Robert McCartney and 5 children (Florence, Rosey, William, Lillian and George) at 21, Ballington Street, Toxteth Park, Lancashire.
4) The 1911 Census shows them (minus Rosey junior) at the same address but Rose senior is shown by that name and not Rosey and her birthplace is showing as Willesden not Hammersmith but there must be a chance that Hammersmith and Willesden came under the same Parish back then.
Hi Mark
Thanks for your help. I am aware of all their movements but I’m keen to find out if there’s any documentary stuff about how Rose,Rosey) came to be in Bolton. For example there is a record of her sister Florence being enrolled in school by Frederick. The older brother became a carpenter like his father and uncle. From the scraps we have I don’t sense they were an uncaring family- just too poor.
If it’s Fulham parish, can anyone point me to the relevant poor law/Guardians records?
Many thanks
Joanne
With regards records check out
London Metropolitan Archives on line catalogue.
level of DescriptionCollectionDate1842-1931
Extent24.4 linear metres
Scope and Content
Records of the Fulham Poor Law Union, 1842-1931; including minutes of meetings of the Boards of Guardians; minutes and reports of various Committees; financial accounts; staff records; correspondence with and orders from Government departments; general correspondence, particularly relating to the Belmont Institution; plans of Fulham Workhouse; contracts; orders of removal to and from other Unions; registers of lunatics; receiving officer’s report on lunatics; registers of Fulham Palace Road Workhouse and Saint Dunstan’s Road Infirmary; registers of apprentices; registers of children in various schools, institutions and children’s homes.
Hello Joanne
Rose Jane Mary Beard an operative at the cotton mills married in 1889 to Robert McCartney a mechanic at the cotton mills who then went onto work as a mechanic for the Tate Sugar Factory
They were both residing at Lostock Junction when they married
In the 1881 census Rose with the other London girls are living in Heatons Houses with a wife and her daughter – Lostock Junction Mills stood on a narrow stretch of land by Heaton Road
Lostock Mills
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lostock_Junction_Mills
Lancashire Mill owners negotiated contracts with London Poor Law Guardians to supply cheap labour/apprentices
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_mill
Could have been an apprentice taken from London workhouse to work in Bolton
https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-07-28/the-mill-the-real-story-of-the-child-slaves-of-the-industrial-revolution/
Lostock Mills
Lancashire Female Cotton Operatives
https://www.jstor.org/stable/591413?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
Lostock Mills
http://bolton.webeden.co.uk/croal/4593472840
London Metropolitan Archives – possible London Poor Law Guardian contracts with Lancashire Mill owners
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/visitor-information/Pages/opening-times.aspx
Bolton Local Archives
http://www.boltonlams.co.uk/archives
Lancashire County Archives
https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/archives-and-record-office/enquiries-and-research/
Hello Joanne
The article on Pauper Apprenticeship explains about children being brought from London to the mills
Click to access balh-the-local-historian-14-7.pdf
Hello FHHS,
I wonder if any of your members might be able to help with a query: I’m doing research for a short film about the Llandow Air Disaster of March 1950, in which an Avro Tudor 5 crashed on final approach to RAF Llandow in South Wales with the loss of 80 lives, including the flight engineer, John Alexander Berry, who used to live at 28 Richmond Way, Shepherd’s Bush with his parents. Although it is now a long time ago, I was hoping that there might be relatives or descendants still living in your area who might be prepared to give me more information about him.
Kind regards,
Anthony Hontoir
Downwood Film Productions
All civil and military aircraft accidents are listed with links on Wikipedia sights 1959 commercial on is listed thus, and has an entry for this accident
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft#1950
Hello Mr Hontoir
According to his 1950 London Probate he lived with his wife Peggy Maureen Berry at the address you quoted – can’t find a marriage for them though.
If you know the maiden name of the wife, then you can search for all Berry babies born with the mother’s maiden name – even looking for John Alexander Berry no-one is researching him on Ancestry.
Hello FHHS
I left two messages for Nicola Byrne yesterday
The second shorter message is showing up
The first longer message is not showing up – but had been approved. There was alot of research in that reply, what is happening with that post please
Sorry Lorraine I have been a little behind on moderating, catching up now sorry to all for the inconvenience. Thankyou for your comprehensive response.
No problem – thought it was a glitch with the software and to let you know as soon as possible to get the missing text back.
Hello FHHS
I see my replies are still in preview, please do you know when they will be moderated?
Thank you
Hi just getting a bit worried, is moderating just a little behind or software not working?
Have seen some comments in preview needing to be moderated, some have been moderated, some data has disappeared does this happen when you are looking at?
Thank you
Hello FHHS
Please can you let me know what is going on with my research
Sometimes the post says is being moderated
Sometimes the post goes straight through as moderated
When I go back in:
Sometimes posts are there to see as moderated or unmoderated
Sometimes posts are not there to see moderated or unmoderated
If I have replied several times to a post sometimes all the posts are there
If I have replied several times to a post sometimes non of the posts are there
If I have replied several times to a post sometimes only some of the posts are there
I am now saving my work in Word and checking my research is still on the site, e.g. research for Ben with the Bevans family, two posts there last night and still there this morning
People have helped me with my family history research on other sites, so helping people on this site is my payback, as well as finding interesting information for the area where our ancestors lived.
Is there a problem with the software?
If this is happening to me, is this happening to other users?
My Great Aunt, Henriette Alexandrine Emilie Cooper was killed by enemy action in 1944 at her house at 68 Clifford Road, Hounslow. Does anyone have any information about this event?
DOUBLE FUNERAL There was a double funeral at Heston on Wednesday—of Mrs. Henriette Alexandrine Emilie Cooper, of 68, Clifford Road, Hounslow, who was killed by enemy action in Southern England, and of Mrs. Irene Ethel Jelinska, of 41, North Hyde Lane …
Published: Saturday 22 July 1944
Newspaper: Middlesex Chronicle
County: London, England
Type: Article | Words: 426 | Page: 3 | Tags: non
Hello Claire
Had this reply to which I have thanked the Archivist.
Hounslow Libraries Local Collection includes a simple typescript list of wartime bombing incidents in the borough of Heston and Isleworth between 1940 and 1945. This provides the date and location of the bomb incident and a note of the extent of the property damage it caused, but does not record casualties. However, thanks to your transcribed report from Hounslow’s weekly newspaper; and to our extract copy of the Roll of Honour of Civilian War Dead (1939-45) for the borough of Heston and Isleworth (Imperial/Commonwealth War Graves Commission), I can tell you that Henriette Alexandriene Emilie Cooper and Irene Ethel Jelinska, along with her baby daughter [Zofia Irena Jelinski born Blackpool, Lancashire, mother’s maiden name Lovell], died as a result of the Wilton Road V1 doodlebug/flying bomb incident of 12th July 1944 which damaged 900 homes over the area surrounding the bomb fall site.
Clifford Road and Wilton Road together form an ‘L’, with Clifford Road at the bottom and Wilton Road forming the side arm, just to the north west of Hounslow Barracks, in Hounslow West. Number 68 Clifford Road is very close to the inside angle of the ‘L’.
Our copy of the Register/Roll of Honour of Civilian War Dead for 1939-45 lists both Henriette Cooper and Irene Jelinska in its alphabetical sequence, giving them the same date and place of death. It looks as though Irene Jelinska was visiting, or was present at, the Cooper’s home at the time of the incident.
The Imperial/Commonwealth War Graves Roll of Honour is the only comprehensive listing of civilian fatalities of World War II. In recent years Councillor Sue Sampson and some residents of Isleworth set up a memorial to the civilian war dead of the parish of Isleworth on North Street Green – the site of another V1 flying bomb incident. A memorial book was published in connection with the new memorial stone. But this only covered the civilian dead of Isleworth, whilst Hounslow West is in the former parish of Heston.
James Marshall; Local Studies & Archives Manager
James.Marshall@hounslow.gov.uk
localstudies@hounslow.gov.uk
Dear Lorraine and James,Thank you so much for this. It really means a lot to me and will mean the world to my grandmother who is 97 and is still looking back on those times with many unanswered questions.Very best wishes,Claire
My pleasure!
Hounslow Archives have provided further information, to which I have replied and thanked.
Henriette Cooper has an entry in the Roll of Honour of Civilian War Dead as follows:
Cooper, Henrietta Alexandriene Emilie, age 50; of 68 Clifford Road, Hounslow. Wife of Arthur Cecil Cooper. 12 July 1944, at 68 Clifford Road.
Irene Jelinska is also recorded as having died at 68 Clifford Road on the same date, which would go some way to explaining the double funeral reported in the Chronicle.
This bombing is mentioned in A. R. P. (Civil Defence) in The Borough of Heston & Isleworth 1938-1945 by F. W. Swanwick:
The most serious flying bomb incident was at Wilton Road on the night of 12th July when 11 people were killed and 35 seriously injured. 7 houses were destroyed, 13 others damaged beyond repair and 1,000 others with varying damage of a lesser degree. 19 persons were trapped under debris and our Rescue parties worked for hours to get through the debris and rescued these people. A mobile First Aid Unit with Dr. Curran in charge set up on the spot and attended to many casualties. The Warden and Ambulance Services were also hard at work and help was given by men of the U. S. A. force as well as British Army units and the police. The W. V. S. set up an Enquiry Point and a Mobile Emergency Feeding Unit, which supplied refreshments to all in need. About 70 people were rendered homeless and they were accommodated at the nearest Rest Centre. District Warden R. T. Hamilton was the Incident Officer in charge, assisted by Deputy D. W. Sawyer.
The date and location of the bombing is also confirmed by the Heston and Isleworth bomb damage register.
Adam Grounds | Archives & Local Studies Assistant
http://www.hounslow.gov.uk
Hello Claire
Middlesex Chronicle
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000227/19440722/050/0003
DOUBLE FUNERAL There was a double funeral at Heston on Wednesday—of Mrs. Henriette Alexandrine Emilie Cooper, of 68, Clifford Road, Hounslow, who was killed by enemy action in Southern England, and of Mrs. Irene Ethel Jelinska, of 41, North Hyde Lane, Heston, who lost her life at the same time. Mrs. Jelinska’s husband, Flt.- Lieut. Z.’ Jelinska, of the Polish Air Force, and their baby daughter (Z. I. Jelinska), aged six months, were injured and taken to hospital. Baby Jelinska died on Wednesday. Before her marriage Mrs. Jelinska was a Civil servant, engaged at the Ministry of Health. She was 22 years of age. Mrs. Cooper, 50 •years of age, was the wife of Mr. A. C. Cooper, who in 1939, holding the position of Higher Clerical Officer, Offices of the Cabinet, Committee of Imperial Defence, Economic Advisory Council and Minister for Coordination of Defence, was awarded the M.B.E. in the King’s Birthday Honours. Mr. Cooper , was formerly assistant secretary and chairman of Hounslow West (Heath Ward) Ratepayers Association (Non- Political). The interment of Mrs. Cooper in Heston Churchyard was preceded by a service in Heston Parish Church, Rev. G. Graggs (Vicar) officiating. The organist (Mr. Donoygn Ryan) played ‘‘Ave Maria as the coffin rested in ‘the church and the mourners entered, and after the service the coffin was borne from the church to the strains of Chopin’s Funeral March. The mourners were Mr. A. C. Cooper (husband), Miss J. D. Cooper (daughter), Miss M. A. L. Porel Dagroad (sister), Mrs. A. Spencer (aunt) and Mrs. E. M. Reeves (cousin). Floral tributes were sent by: Husband and daughter: sister and cousin; father-in-law: aunt and cousin; Director and staff of the Central Statistical Office; Mr. and Mrs. Moore and family; Mr. and Mrs. Ashwell and Joyce; Neighbours in Clifford Road; Miss L. McAnearney; Mr. and Mrs. Brett. A Requiem Mass for Mrs. Jelinska was held in the Fathers’ Roman Catholic Church, Heston, and Father T. Tye officiated at the interment -in Heston Churchyard. The mourners were Mrs. E. M. Lovell (mother), Ordinary Seaman G. R. Lovell (brother), Mrs. S. Pritchard (cousin). Flt.-Lt. W. Potocki and Flying Officer S. Tronczinski (representatives of the Polish Air Force), and Mrs. N. Fraser (friend). Senders of floral tributes were: Husband: mother: Aunts Lily and Sis, and cousins Stella and Mabel: C.O. and pilots of a Polish Squadron; Arthur and Daphne Cooper. The arrangements for the double funeral were entrusted to T. H. Sanders and Sons Ltd., Staines Road. The funeral of Baby Jelinska, also at Heston, was on Friday.
1944 BIRTH
Name: Zofia I Jelinski
Registration Date: Jan 1944
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Mother’s Maiden Name: Lovell
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 727
1944 DEATH BABY
Name: Zofia I Jelinska
Death Age: 0
Birth Date: abt 1944
Registration Date: Jul 1944
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 185
Did you get my previous similar post, having problems
So sad, and the poor litt
Hello Dot
What a conundrum!
1939 DEATH
Mary A Powell
Birth 1854
Death 1939 Battersea London
No 1939 death for Jinne/Jinnie Holmes
Not sure about either of these as big age gap for being a common law husband and wife
1951 DEATH
Hebert Holmes
Birth 1876
Death 1951 Wandsworth London
No 1951 death for Herbert Cairns
CONTACT
TFL ARCHIVES FOR
HERBERT HOLMES/HERBERT CAIRNS
WORK RECORD STATION MASTER
MARBLE ARCH UNDERGROUND STATION
https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/about-tfl/culture-and-heritage/corporate-archives/accessing-our-archives
CONTACT
UNITED GRAND LODGE OF ENGLAND
HERBERT HOLMES/HERBERT CAIRNS
MASON
https://www.ugle.org.uk/contact-us/genealogical-enquiries
CONTACT
MAGIC CIRCLE
HERBERT HOLMES/HERBERT CAIRNS
FOUNDER MEMBER
https://themagiccircle.co.uk/the-society/our-history
As your friend is sadly confused going back to her grandparents might be a little difficult, especially with name changes and not being officially married. Can you start instead with her parents and work backwards. Please can you give details of your friend’s parents names:
Father name, birth, occupation, marriage, death
Mother name, birth, occupation, marriage, death
Where these all occured
Both my great grandparents are listed as dying on 22 June 1944 in barking road Canning Town.. does anyone know what happened that day? I know it was ww2 but cannot find information about that day Thursday 22 July e 1944
William and Catherine Winslow
Looking at Bombsight shows a number of bombs mainly HE in 1941, 44 was the V bomb campaign. It is possible they were not in their home when killed. I would try the London Metropolitan Archive. All boroughs have lists of those killed in airraids. You could also look in the local papers if you have the date and can get to LMA or British Library. I’, afraid its way off our patch.
Good luck
Hello Nikki
National Archives, Kew
Bomb Census Survey Records
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/bomb-census-survey-records-1940-1945/
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Catherine Winslow died at Odeon Cinema, civilian casualty
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3106475/winslow,-catherine-ann/
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
William Winslow died at Odeon Cinema, civilian casualty
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3106478/winslow,-william-john-alfred/
The cinema had closed by 1941, why were they there, was it used for other purposes
http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/14789
https://historicengland.org.uk/services-skills/education/educational-images/odeon-cinema-barking-road-east-ham-3704
Odeon bombed twice
https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/80/a2841680.shtml
The Newham Story, might know more about the 1944 bombing or where to get information
http://www.newhamstory.co.uk/index.php?topic=1993.0
Newham Local Archives might know more, looked in the British Newspaper Archives and found nothing, might not have been reported as would affect morale
https://www.newham.gov.uk/Pages/Services/Local-history-and-archives.aspx
Photo, mentions about flying bomb in 1944
https://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/Articles/DidYouKnow30.htm
West Ham United’s Upton Park/Boleyn Ground after it had been hit by a flying bomb in August 1944. On the right is St John’s Church and at the back is the Odeon Cinema in the Barking Road.
World War Two Civilian Deaths
Name: Catherine Ann Winslow
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Death Date: 22 Jun 1944
Death Place: West Ham, Essex, England
Age at Death: 56
Spouse: William John Alfred Winslow
1939 Census
William and Catherine’s daughter, also Catherine is an aluminium drill operator
To moderator, this version is slightly amended to your version
Hello Nikki
National Archives, Kew
Bomb Census Survey Records
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/bomb-census-survey-records-1940-1945/
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Catherine Winslow died at Odeon Cinema, civilian casualty
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3106475/winslow,-catherine-ann/
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
William Winslow died at Odeon Cinema, civilian casualty
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3106478/winslow,-william-john-alfred/
The cinema had closed by 1941, why were they there, was it used for other purposes
http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/14789
https://historicengland.org.uk/services-skills/education/educational-images/odeon-cinema-barking-road-east-ham-3704
Odeon bombed twice
https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/80/a2841680.shtml
The Newham Story, might know more about the 1944 bombing or where to get information
http://www.newhamstory.co.uk/index.php?topic=1993.0
Newham Local Archives might know more, looked in the British Newspaper Archives and found nothing, might not have been reported as would affect morale
https://www.newham.gov.uk/Pages/Services/Local-history-and-archives.aspx
Photo, mentions about flying bomb in 1944
https://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/Articles/DidYouKnow30.htm
West Ham United’s Upton Park/Boleyn Ground after it had been hit by a flying bomb in August 1944. On the right is St John’s Church and at the back is the Odeon Cinema in the Barking Road.
World War Two Civilian Deaths
https://www.westminster-abbey.org/abbey-commemorations/commemorations/civilian-war-dead-roll-of-honour-1939-1945
Name: Catherine Ann Winslow
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Death Date: 22 Jun 1944
Death Place: West Ham, Essex, England
Age at Death: 56
Spouse: William John Alfred Winslow
Name: William John Alfred Winslow
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Death Date: 22 Jun 1944
Death Place: West Ham, Essex, England
Age at Death: 54
Spouse: Catherine Ann Winslow
1939 Census
William and Catherine’s daughter, also Catherine is an aluminium drill operator
Newham Local Archives is extremely helpful and knowledgeable with a wealth of records, so please email them or go into to see their archives.
Winslows killed at Odeon Cinema 1944, how?
http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/14789
During a run of the programme “Case of the Frightened Lady” starring Marius Goring and “Alias the Deacon” starring Bob Burns, a bomb damaged the Odeon on 2nd October 1940 causing it to close down. It had been open just 15 months. Repairs were carried out and it re-opened on 3rd March 1941 with The Dead End Kids in “Hell’s Kitchen” and Jack Hulbert in “Jack’s the Boy”. Disaster struck again when it was hit by bombing on 11th May 1941. The Odeon never re-opened and had the shortest life of any of the Odeon Theatres, just operating for a total of 17 months.
Cinemas Of Essex book at Newham Local Archives says Odeon reopened for 1944 bombing, could have been bombed inside, trampled inside, bombed outside getting to air raid shelter or in air raid shelter.
Story probably not reported, or covered up, even death certificates not allowed to give true information.
https://www.eastlondonhistory.co.uk/second-world-war-bombing-raid-south-hallsville-school/
Cinema Air Raid Shelter
Click to access blacksaturday.pdf
Catherine and William are also in the West Ham Civilian Casualties Memorial Book.
The ARP Wardens, Air Raid Precautions would have recorded the Odeon bombing in their records at the Newham Local Archives.
The story may have been reported in the Stratford Express (currently not in the British Newspapers Archive) but are found in the Newham Local Archives – but could also not have been reported as LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS
World War Two Sayings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_lips_sink_ships
Stratford & Newham Express
https://www.britishpapers.co.uk/england-london/stratford-newham-express/
https://help-and-advice.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/forums/243704-newspapers-we-should-add-next/suggestions/10090107-stratford-express
Newham Local Archives
https://www.newham.gov.uk/Pages/Services/Local-history-and-archives.aspx
Its next to Chelsea football club 👍
Its a hotel now Tania
Thank you!
Hi there Can anyone remember a little prep school called Heathfield House Preparatory School on the corner of Munster Road and Hestercombe Avenue in Fulham. The headmistress was Miss James and
I was there from 1949 to 1955…anyone else there at that time? My name then was Janet Passman.
Yes indeed! I was there from around 1947-1952. Miss James was also my first piano teacher. WendyPhillips
awlawson@outlook.com (in case reply gets lost!)
Please could you tell me anything about Stamford House, 428 Fulham Road? Does it still exist? Thank you.
Hello Tania
428 Fulham Road still exists, part of La Reserve Hotel, 428 being associated with Howard Carter, Egyptologist.
LA RESERVE HOTEL
http://www.la-reservehotel.co.uk/hotel-directions/
422-428 Fulham Road
Four houses have been converted to make one hotel
1884 MORNING POST – TUESDAY 14 OCTOBER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000174/18841014/003/0008
422 Fulham Road
Morning or daily governess, a lady of experience teaches through English, fluent, music, drawing, and elementary German, moderate terms: address 422 Fulham Road
1887 WEST LONDON OBSERVER – SATURDAY 04 JUNE
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/18870604/011/0002
424 Fulham Road
Moore Park Grammar School, established 1880
1904 WEST LONDON OBSERVER – FRIDAY 08 JULY
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19040708/011/0001
424 Fulham Road
Fulham Grammar School, established 24 years
1944 FULHAM CHRONICLE – FRIDAY 30 JUNE
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001984/19440630/001/0001
424 Fulham Road
WARDEN’S LOSS A native of Tuan. County Galway, Mrs. Celia Maria Gilbert died at her home at 424, Fulham-Road, after a long illness. She was the wife of Mr. Ernest George Gilbert, a well-known Fulham warden. He is the eldest son of the late Sir Alfred Gilbert, the designer of the famous Eros statue in Piccadilly Circus. Mrs. Gilbert was a relative of Mr. John McCormick. the famous singer. A requiem mass at St. Thomas’s Church, Rylston Road, preceded the interment at Fulham Cemetery. Sheen. Father Hanafin officiated. There were numerous floral tributes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCormack_(tenor)
John McCormick was the first artist to record the famous World War I song “It’s a Long Way to Tipperary” in 1914
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaftesbury_Memorial_Fountain
Shaftsbury Memorial Fountain/Eros
1891 ISLINGTON GAZETTE
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000438/18910513/090/0004
426 Fulham Road
A respectable young person wanted, as general servant about 18 from country preferred. Apply at The Hollies 426 Fulham Road
1892 NORFOLK CHRONICLE
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000244/18920507/109/0007
428 Fulham Road
Samuel John Carter, father of Howard Carter Egyptologist, died at Stamford House, 428 Fulham Road
HOWARD CARTER: THE PATH TO TUTANKHAMUN
428 Fulham Road
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=AyK0_weGa20C&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=stamford+house+428+fulham+road&source=bl&ots=AWl4IQgdO1&sig=ACfU3U3rpRg-c8Sw3cc024Ut_R2kBTRuWA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjKsY6mg6XjAhUVUxUIHeXeA4wQ6AEwB3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=stamford%20house%20428%20fulham%20road&f=false
Howard Carter Egyptologist used Stamford House, 428 Fulham Road as a base
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Carter
Brothers William and Vernet and sister Amy Carter also lived at Stamford House, 428 Fulham Road
ENGLISH HERITAGE/BLUE PLAQUES SCHEME
https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/blue-plaques/propose-a-plaque/
Thank you Lorraine for such a detailed reply, very helpful information, really appreciate that you took the time to find this for me.
Best wishes
Tania
Pleasure Tania – it’s amazing what you can ‘dig’ up!
The hotel manager is an absolute delight, I don’t know what you need the information for but have also sent onto him as he explained about the four houses making up the hotel, maybe contact him also?
It’s to do with my research on Howard Carter, I’m going to see if I can find some old photos of the are. Would you know of any books about Fulham or Kensington that would be useful pictorial resources?
Hello Tania, sorry can’t help you there, don’t live in the area just interested in the area.
Hi Tania
Sorry can’t help there ask the library
I am trying to track down a copy of a transcript of Inscriptions made of gravestones in St Paul’s Church, I’m not quite sure of the date this work was done, sometime before the new extension was built. I have used the one in the LBHF archives dating from 1882. I am undertaking research into individuals buried in St Paul’s churchyard between 1828-1854 so any interesting information about Hammersmith at this time would be welcome. There doesn’t seem to have been a local paper at this time.
The Parish registers of St Paul Hammersmith from 1664 -1972 should be available at archives. They have been indexed upto 1837. yes the West London Observer only starts in 1855, so before that you may find some references in London wide publications e.g. Illustrated London news.
I have ancestor’s photos, but no name or age. The photographers were H. Baker 263 Fulham Road, Brompton, and
Gwyn Collier 223 Fulham Road S. W.
I would be very grateful to find out how long these photographers were in the area. It would help with identification, perhaps.
Regards
You would need to check a back file of Kellys Post office london directories. In fact the two premises would be in Kensington and Chelsea,so their local history depts may have more detail anyway about the firm
I am interested if anyone can help me regarding any information about a Marion
Shields /Lothian a Scottish tfemale pianist who played boogie -woogie piano in the 1950’s.
She was my late mother and had connections with the Phil Green Orchestra and Radio Scotland.
Hello Johnny
Sorry nothing on your mother. Maybe she is credited on the recordings?
Phil Green Orchestra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Green_(composer)
http://www.45cat.com/artist/philip-green-and-his-orchestra
https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/philip_green
https://www.discogs.com/artist/1306546-Philip-Green-And-His-Orchestra
Can only suggest contacting Radio Scotland Archives and asking if they have your mother playing/credited?
Hello Inga
CHARLES COLLIER PORTRAITS
Thomas Howe & Prince Safihea/Captain Pritchard
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw159893/Thomas-Howe-Prince-Safihea-Captain-Pritchard?LinkID=mp96892&role=sit&rNo=0
Boy With Crutches
http://www.19thcenturyphotos.com/Boy-with-crutches-122186.htm
Woman Sitting
http://www.maartjedenie.nl/verzameling%20005%20CDV%2002%20-%2003%20clothes%20the%20dress%2002.html
Portrait Of Two Women
https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/126459/portrait-two-women
1859 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000441/18591022/036/0004
NOTICE OF REMOVAL
Mr. GWYN COLLIER, Photographer, RESPECTFULLY announces that he has removed from the King’s Road. to Pelham Nursery, opposite Pelham-Crescent, Fulham-Road
No connection with any other house
1861 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, living in Chelsea
Artist In Photography
1862 MARRIAGE
Charles William Gwyn Collier, Photographer
Father John Collier Gentleman
1867 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001427/18670404/008/0001
GENUINE TURN-OUT (a Bargain).—Well- bred BROWN MARE, six years old, hand?, wonderfully fast, with good action, and requires no whip-perfectly sound— DOG CART PHAETON in good condition, handsome lamps, &c, nearly new harness, saddle and bridle—together or separate. to Mr. Gwyn Collier, 223 Fulham-Road
1869 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001000/18690825/033/0002
MONKEY cheap female wanted or other small foreign animal
G C 223 Fulham Road Brompton
Pet or photographic prop
1871 NEWSPAPER
General servant wanted, about 20 from the country preferred, an easy place, 223 Fulham Road, opposite Consumption Hospital
1871 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001112/18710107/052/0008
PHOTOGRAPHIC PREMISES at Brompton near New Exhibition Ten rooms with studio at low rent
Lease to be sold through a death
Established fifteen years G C 223 Fulham Road
1881 CENSUS
Charles W G Collier, living in Lambeth
Artist In Photography
1891 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, living in Chiswick
Photographer
1901 CENSUS
Charles Collier, living in Fulham
Photographer
1903 DEATH
Charles Collier, died in Fulham
Born 1836
BURKES FAMILY RECORDS
COLLIER FROM PAGE 171
Name: Charles William Gwyn
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1835
Father: William George
Mother: Mary Ann
CHRISTINA COLLIER (GYWN) GREAT-GRANDMOTHER
MARRIED TO GEORGE COLLIER
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw147972/Christiana-Collier-ne-Gwyn?LinkID=mp51023&role=sit&rNo=0
GEORGE COLLIER GREAT-GRANDDAD
MARRIED TO CHRISTINA COLLIER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Collier
Divorced his wife and married again
Maybe Gwyn called his father John when he married so family could not be connected to divorce (and used his other names)
TAKEN FROM LIFE
THE UNSETTLING ART OF DEATH IN PHOTOGRAPHY
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36389581
Hello Inga
Could find no evidence of a H Baker working/living at 263 Fulham Road
1861-1871
I believe H Baker could have been a photographer at 263 Fulham Road between these dates
1871 CENSUS
Edward Bawden is a shop assistant for a jeweler, perhaps a watch maker, goes on to work at 263 Fulham Road between 1881 and 1891
1871-1881
I believe H Baker could have been a photographer at 263 Fulham Road between these dates
1881 CENSUS
Philip Henry Baker living in Chelsea, photographer
1881 CENSUS
Edward Bawden, watchmaker is living at 263 Fulham Road
1891 CENSUS
Edward Bawden, watchmaker is living at 263 Fulham Road
1891 CENSUS
Philip H Baker, living in Fulham
Auxillary Postman & Photographer
1901 CENSUS
Edward Bawden, watchmaker living in Hornsey
H Baker could have been a photographer at 263 Fulham Road
1898 WESTMINSTER RATE BOOKS
Ernest H Baker, 169 Regent Street
Eastman Photographic Materials Coy Ltd
1901 CENSUS
Harold Baker, boarding at St Giles, photographer
1911 CENSUS
Edward Bawden, watchmaker living in Islington
H Baker could have been a photographer at 263 Fulham Road
1911 CENSUS
Harry Baker living in Kingston On Thames
Photographer
1911 CENSUS
Richard Henry Stranger Baker living in Fulham
Photographic Dealers Assistant
COLLIER PHOTOGRAPHS
Thomas Howe & Prince Safihea
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw159893/Thomas-Howe-Prince-Safihea-Captain-Pritchard?LinkID=mp105055&role=art&rNo=0
Woman Sitting
http://www.maartjedenie.nl/verzameling%20005%20CDV%2002%20-%2003%20clothes%20the%20dress%2002.html
Boy With Crutches
http://www.19thcenturyphotos.com/Boy-with-crutches-122186.htm
Portrait Of Two Women
https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/126459/portrait-two-women
1861 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, photographer
Living in Chelsea
1862 MARRIAGE
Charles William Gwyn Collier, photographer
Marries in Fulham to
Harriet Walker
Father John Collier
Charles’ father’s name is William George, did he use John so the congregation are unaware of his great-grandparents George Collier’s & Christina Collier’s divorce
1859 WEST MIDDLESEX ADVERTISER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000441/18591008/032/0004
NOTICE OF REMOVAL. Mr. GWYN COLLIER, Photographer, RESPECTFULLY announces that he has removed from the King’s-Rd. to Pelham Nursery, opposite Pelham-Crescent, Fulham Road. No connexion with any other house.
1867 MORNING ADVERTISER
GENUINE TURN-OUT (a Bargain)—Well- bred BROWN MARE, six years old, wonderfully fast, with good action, and requires no whip-perfectly sound— DOG-CART PHAETON in good condition, handsome lamps, nearly new harness, saddle and bridle—together or separate. to Mr. Gwyn Collier, 223 Fulham-Road.
1869 CLERKENWELL NEWS
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001000/18690825/033/0002
MONKEY (cheap female) wanted, or other small foreign animal. G. C. 223, Fulham-Road. Brompton.
Pet or photographic prop
1870 POST OFFICE DIRECTORY
Name: Gwyn Collier
Residence Date: 1870
Street address: 162 Kings Road, Chelsea SW & 223 Fulham Road SW
Residence Place: London
Occupation: Photographic Artists
1871 DAILY TELEGRAPH & COURIER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001112/18710107/052/0008
PHOTOGRAPHIC PREMISES Brompton, Near New Exhibition. Ten rooms, with studio, at low rent. Lease sold through a death. Established fifteen years – G C,223, Fulham Road.
1871 CLERKENWELL NEWS
GENERAL Servant wanted, about 20; from the country preferred; easy place. 223, Fulham-Road opposite Consumption Hospital.
1871 CENSUS
Unable to find
1881 CENSUS
Charles W G Collier, photographer
Living in Lambeth
1891 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, photographer
Living in Chiswick
1901 CENSUS
Charles Collier, photographer
Living in Fulham
1903 DEATH
Charles Collier
Died Fulham
1903 BURIAL
Gwyn Collier
Buried Kensington
BURKES FAMILY RECORDS
COLLIER FAMILY
Page 174
Charles William Gwyn Collier’s great-grandfather George Collier divorced his first wife Christina Collier
Name: Charles William Gwyn
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1835
Father: William George
Mother: Mary Ann
GREAT-GRANDMOTHER
CHRISTINA COLLIER, MAIDEN NAME GWYN
MARRIED TO GEORGE COLLIER
Christina was divorced by George
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw147972/Christiana-Collier-ne-Gwyn?LinkID=mp51023&role=sit&rNo=0
GREAT-GRANDFATHER
GEORGE COLLIER
MARRIED TO CHRISTINA COLLIER
George divorced Christina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Collier
Did you get my previous similar post, having problems
COLLIER PHOTOGRAPHS
Thomas Howe & Prince Safihea
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw159893/Thomas-Howe-Prince-Safihea-Captain-Pritchard?LinkID=mp105055&role=art&rNo=0
Woman Sitting
http://www.maartjedenie.nl/verzameling%20005%20CDV%2002%20-%2003%20clothes%20the%20dress%2002.html
Boy With Crutches
http://www.19thcenturyphotos.com/Boy-with-crutches-122186.htm
Portrait Of Two Women
https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/126459/portrait-two-women
1861 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, photographer
Living in Chelsea
1862 MARRIAGE
Charles William Gwyn Collier, photographer
Marries in Fulham to
Harriet Walker
Father John Collier
Charles’ father’s name is William George, did he use John so the congregation are unaware of his great-grandparents George Collier’s & Christina Collier’s divorce
1859 WEST MIDDLESEX ADVERTISER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000441/18591008/032/0004
NOTICE OF REMOVAL. Mr. GWYN COLLIER, Photographer, RESPECTFULLY announces that he has removed from the King’s-Rd. to Pelham Nursery, opposite Pelham-Crescent, Fulham Road. No connexion with any other house.
1867 MORNING ADVERTISER
GENUINE TURN-OUT (a Bargain)—Well- bred BROWN MARE, six years old, wonderfully fast, with good action, and requires no whip-perfectly sound— DOG-CART PHAETON in good condition, handsome lamps, nearly new harness, saddle and bridle—together or separate. to Mr. Gwyn Collier, 223 Fulham-Road.
1869 CLERKENWELL NEWS
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001000/18690825/033/0002
MONKEY (cheap female) wanted, or other small foreign animal. G. C. 223, Fulham-Road. Brompton.
Pet or photographic prop
1870 POST OFFICE DIRECTORY
Name: Gwyn Collier
Residence Date: 1870
Street address: 162 Kings Road, Chelsea SW & 223 Fulham Road SW
Residence Place: London
Occupation: Photographic Artists
1871 DAILY TELEGRAPH & COURIER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001112/18710107/052/0008
PHOTOGRAPHIC PREMISES Brompton, Near New Exhibition. Ten rooms, with studio, at low rent. Lease sold through a death. Established fifteen years – G C,223, Fulham Road.
1871 CLERKENWELL NEWS
GENERAL Servant wanted, about 20; from the country preferred; easy place. 223, Fulham-Road opposite Consumption Hospital.
1871 CENSUS
Unable to find
1881 CENSUS
Charles W G Collier, photographer
Living in Lambeth
1891 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, photographer
Living in Chiswick
1901 CENSUS
Charles Collier, photographer
Living in Fulham
1903 DEATH
Charles Collier
Died Fulham
1903 BURIAL
Gwyn Collier
Buried Kensington
BURKES FAMILY RECORDS
COLLIER FAMILY
Page 174
Charles William Gwyn Collier’s great-grandfather George Collier divorced his first wife Christina Collier
Name: Charles William Gwyn
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1835
Father: William George
Mother: Mary Ann
GREAT-GRANDMOTHER
CHRISTINA COLLIER, MAIDEN NAME GWYN
MARRIED TO GEORGE COLLIER
Christina was divorced by George
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw147972/Christiana-Collier-ne-Gwyn?LinkID=mp51023&role=sit&rNo=0
GREAT-GRANDFATHER
GEORGE COLLIER
MARRIED TO CHRISTINA COLLIER
George divorced Christina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Collier
Hello Inga
CHARLES COLLIER PORTRAITS
Thomas Howe & Prince Safihea/Captain Pritchard
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw159893/Thomas-Howe-Prince-Safihea-Captain-Pritchard?LinkID=mp96892&role=sit&rNo=0
Boy With Crutches
http://www.19thcenturyphotos.com/Boy-with-crutches-122186.htm
Woman Sitting
http://www.maartjedenie.nl/verzameling%20005%20CDV%2002%20-%2003%20clothes%20the%20dress%2002.html
Portrait Of Two Women
https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/126459/portrait-two-women
1859 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000441/18591022/036/0004
NOTICE OF REMOVAL
Mr. GWYN COLLIER, Photographer, RESPECTFULLY announces that he has removed from the King’s Road. to Pelham Nursery, opposite Pelham-Crescent, Fulham-Road
No connection with any other house
1861 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, living in Chelsea
Artist In Photography
1862 MARRIAGE
Charles William Gwyn Collier, Photographer
Father John Collier Gentleman
1867 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001427/18670404/008/0001
GENUINE TURN-OUT (a Bargain).—Well- bred BROWN MARE, six years old, hand?, wonderfully fast, with good action, and requires no whip-perfectly sound— DOG CART PHAETON in good condition, handsome lamps, &c, nearly new harness, saddle and bridle—together or separate. to Mr. Gwyn Collier, 223 Fulham-Road
1869 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001000/18690825/033/0002
MONKEY cheap female wanted or other small foreign animal
G C 223 Fulham Road Brompton
Pet or photographic prop
1871 NEWSPAPER
General servant wanted, about 20 from the country preferred, an easy place, 223 Fulham Road, opposite Consumption Hospital
1871 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001112/18710107/052/0008
PHOTOGRAPHIC PREMISES at Brompton near New Exhibition Ten rooms with studio at low rent
Lease to be sold through a death
Established fifteen years G C 223 Fulham Road
1881 CENSUS
Charles W G Collier, living in Lambeth
Artist In Photography
1891 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, living in Chiswick
Photographer
1901 CENSUS
Charles Collier, living in Fulham
Photographer
1903 DEATH
Charles Collier, died in Fulham
Born 1836
BURKES FAMILY RECORDS
COLLIER FROM PAGE 171
Name: Charles William Gwyn
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1835
Father: William George
Mother: Mary Ann
CHRISTINA COLLIER (GYWN) GREAT-GRANDMOTHER
MARRIED TO GEORGE COLLIER
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw147972/Christiana-Collier-ne-Gwyn?LinkID=mp51023&role=sit&rNo=0
GEORGE COLLIER GREAT-GRANDDAD
MARRIED TO CHRISTINA COLLIER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Collier
Divorced his wife and married again
Maybe Gwyn called his father John when he married so family could not be connected to divorce (and used his other names)
TAKEN FROM LIFE
THE UNSETTLING ART OF DEATH IN PHOTOGRAPHY
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36389581
Does anyone know of a dairy in Goldhawk Road, near the tube station, that closed in the 1970s or 1980s and was replaced by an American-themed pizza restaurant?
Hi,
I am trying to find out the parents of my great grandfather, James Wilson Stanton born 1873. The 1881 census shows him in the Union Workhouse, Hemingford Grey, Cambridgeshire and his birthplace is given as Swavesey, Cambridgeshire. However, I cannot find a record of his birth there. One candidate for his mother s Rachael (Racheal on the census) Stanton born 1846 and she appears to have been an inmate of the Asylum of the Good Shepherd in Fulham in 1861 (too early for James, but could be a sibling). Do you have access to records of children born there? I would also be interested in any photos or drawings of the building. Thank you in advance,
Bev
On the right-hand side of the Fulham Road, which branches off from Queen Street opposite the parish church, stands a large group of brick buildings, designed by Pugin, and known as the Convent of the Good Shepherd and the Asylum for Penitent Women. The site was formerly occupied by Beauchamp Lodge. This charity was commenced in 1841 by some ladies of the Order of the Good Shepherd, who came from Angers, in France, to carry on the work of the reformation of female penitents under the auspices of Dr. Griffiths, then “Vicar-Apostolic of the London District.
A thesis has been written in 1985 and would be available from Brunel UnivCleanliness and Godliness: A sociological study of the Good Shepherd. Full link removed to avoid automatic download but search here –
https://bura.brunel.ac.uk/
Hi Bev
1846 BIRTH
Is Rachel the mother of James Wilson Stanton (please confirm?)
Name: Rachel Stanton
Registration Year: 1846
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Chesterton
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 14
Page: 55
1861 CENSUS
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/MH8.shtml
Asylum Of The Good Shepherd in Fulham for fallen women, Rachel would be 15 by now
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/MH/
Rachael Stanton, born 1846, (born Cambridgeshire please confirm?)
PLEASE GIVE MORE INFORMATION HOW TO CALL HER UP ON THE 1861 CENSUS AS CANNOT TRACE ON ANCESTRY OR FINDMYPAST THANK YOU
1881 CENSUS
Name: James Stanton
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Inmate
Where born: Swavesey, Cambridgeshire
Civil Parish: Hemingford Grey
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Street address: Union Work House
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: St Ives
1894 MARRIAGE
Is James illegitimate, orphaned or abandoned very young as he doesn’t know his father. If James is illegitimate then Wilson could be James’s father’s middle name. If Rachel is James’ mother did she return from Fulham to Cambridgeshire after her ‘punishment’ in the asylum for fallen women, only to become pregnant later in 1873 outside of marriage with James?
Name: James Wilson Stanton
Age: 20
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1874
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1894
Marriage Place: Kettering, St Peter and St Paul, Northamptonshire, England
Spouse: Minnie Beatrice Fleming
1846 BIRTH
Is Rachel the mother of James Wilson Stanton (please confirm?)
Name: Rachel Stanton
Registration Year: 1846
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Chesterton
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 14
Page: 55
1861 CENSUS
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/MH8.shtml
Asylum Of The Good Shepherd in Fulham for fallen women, Rachel would be 15 by now
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/MH/
Rachael Stanton, born 1846, born Cambridgeshire (please confirm?)
PLEASE GIVE MORE INFORMATION HOW TO CALL HER UP ON THE 1861 CENSUS AS CANNOT TRACE ON ANCESTRY OR FINDMYPAST THANK YOU
1881 CENSUS
Name: James Stanton
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Inmate
Where born: Swavesey, Cambridgeshire
Civil Parish: Hemingford Grey
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Street address: Union Work House
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: St Ives
1894 MARRIAGE
Is James illegitimate, orphaned or abandoned very young as he doesn’t know his father. If James is illegitimate then Wilson could be James’s father’s middle name. If Rachel is James’ mother did she return from Fulham to Cambridgeshire after her ‘punishment’ in the asylum for fallen women, only to become pregnant later in 1873 outside of marriage with James?
Name: James Wilson Stanton
Age: 20
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1874
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1894
Marriage Place: Kettering, St Peter and St Paul, Northamptonshire, England
Spouse: Minie Beatrice Fleming
Hello my Dad Jim Scribens recently passed away and I’m trying to retrace his footsteps . He grew up in the worlds end Chelsea. He worked in Barbers North end road and lived in Empirus Road for a while. Later he lived in Kenyon Street off Fulham palace road with a women called Teresa Adams. He was also a green grocer by trade he worked in the Clive the veg shop. Does anybody remember my Dad? I would love to find out more. Thanks Charlotte
Hello. I’m after some help with family research if anyone can help. My Great Grandfather grew up at Parsons Green between 1850-1865 (approx), and lived alongside ‘Bevans Inn’ and apparently directly opposite the green. He was raised by his aunt who was a widow (surname Wright – maiden name de Courcy). Does anyone know where ‘Bevans Inn’ may have been? or which schools were in the direct area in 1855-1865? After two decades of extensive searching through census, birth, marriage and death records etc. we’ve never been able to find any record of him, his aunt, his parents or any member of my family. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello Ben
I’ve found the inn!
DUKES HEAD
https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Fulham/DukesHead.shtml
1861 CENSUS
Place: Dukes Head, Pitt Place
Name: John J Bevan
Estimated birth year: 1827
Father: John Jacob Bevan born 1799, died 1847
Mother: Ann Bristow Bevan, born 1799, died 1835
Spouse’s name: Mary Bevan married 1849 Whitechapel, maiden name Lagerbury
Where born: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
1871 CENSUS
Place: Dukes Head, Pitts Place
Name: John Jacob Bevan
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Where Born: Stepney
Spouse: Mary Bevan
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
1887 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: John Jacob Bevan
Year: 1887
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Street address: The Dukes Head, Pitt Place
Can you give your parents names, births
Can you give your grandparents names, births
To help going back to your great-grandfather
What information have you found?
BIRTHS
MARRIAGES
DEATHS
1911 CENSUS
1901 CENSUS
1891 CENSUS
1881 CENSUS
1871 CENSUS
1861 CENSUS
1851 CENSUS
1841 CENSUS
OTHER INFORMATION
What is the full name of your great-grandfather (and if known birth date, where born, marriage, children. occupation, death)
What is the full name of his Aunt Wright, maiden name de Courcy (and if known birth date, where born, marriage, her husband’s name, children, occupation, death)
Where have you got the information that your great-grandfather and his aunt lived at Parsons Green alongside Bevans Inn?
Bevans Inn is The Duke’s Head.
Sorry far too little information for any further help at the moment without fuller information.
Hello Ben
I’ve found her!
1831 BAPTISM
Elizabeth Courcy, Norfolk, Rollesby
Father Thomas
Mother Eliza
184#/185#/186# MARRIAGE
Unable to find marriage to husband Mr Wright
Could be a common law marriage
1854 THE ERA
TRANSFER OF LICENSES
Kensington 25 September
Duke’s Head, Parson’s Green, Richard Robert Gains to John Jacob Bevans
1861 CENSUS
Name: Elizabeth E Wright (maiden name Courcy)
Estimated birth year: 1831
Relation: Widow
Where born: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Occupation: Proprietor Of House
Address: 2 Pitt Place, next to Dukes Head at 1 Pitt Place
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth A Bell 18 Niece Milliner
Eliza Fisher 20 Servant
FULHAM OLD AND NEW
PITTS PLACE NO.1 DUKES HEAD
PITTS PLACE NO.2 ELIZABETH WRIGHT
https://archive.org/stream/b29010433_0002/b29010433_0002_djvu.txt
Strictly speaking, the name Pitt or Pitt’s Place, now numbered with the Pitt or Pitt’s houses in the New King’s Road, was applied to the terrace of old-fashioned Place houses — six in number — standing between Arragon House and Peterborough
Road, namely Belgrave House (No. 6), Sefton House (No. 5), Cradley House (No. 4), Albyn House (No. 3), its nameless neighbour (No. 2), and the corner house, now the
Duke’s Head (No. 1). Sometimes, however, Arragon House and Gosford Lodge were regarded as included under the designation.
The six houses comprising Pitt Place are somewhat older than Arragon House, having been built about 1795. No. 1, Pitt Place, at the north-west corner of Peterborough Road, is now the “ Duke’s Head,” rebuilt in 1893. The original house did not face the
Green, but stood a little way down Peterborough Lane, at the rear of the present house. The original house, which, for convenience sake, we will speak of here, was an old inn, known as the “ Pond Head Ale House,” from the fact that it faced the pond on Parson’s Green. The first we hear of it is in 1714, when Hicks Burroughs sold to Sir Robert Child certain property at Parson’s Green, including “ one cottage known by the sign of the ‘ Pond-
head Alehouse,”’ then in the occupation of John Paine. On the death of Sir Robert the “ Pondhead Alehouse ” went to his brother, Samuel. The sign was changed to the “ Duke’s
Head,” probably about 1802, when the “ Duke’s Head,” near the Laurel Bank House was pulled down. It was a riotous house, frequented chiefly by the gardeners from Rench’s and
Fitch’s nursery. Early in this century a terrible fight occurred at this house, resulting in the deaths of four men. The transfer of the “ Duke’s Head ” from its old premises to its present position took
place on the death of Dr. James Humphrey Keats, which occurred at No. 1, Pitt Place in 1861. Dr. Keats resided at Parson’s Green nearly all his life, the first appearance of his name in the
Rate books being in 1819. Keats was a remarkable character. He used to visit his patients habited in a long, shabby, dark green frock coat with prominent brass buttons. There used to
be a saying in Fulham, in reference to thread-bare clothes, that a person wore Dr. Keats’s livery. Despite his apparent poverty, he used to keep a pack of harriers, which might often have been seen on Parson’s Green, Eelbrook, Wimbledon Common. The houses in Pitt Place, Nos. 1 to 6, are now renumbered 235 to 245 (alternate numbers), New King’s Road.
Hello Ben
I think this may be your missing great-grandfather. Can you let me know please, or if another nephew.
If your great-grandfather, please thank the person in the Rootschat thread below, I have already on our behalf.
1851 CENSUS
Name Elizabeth Wright
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
Household Members:
William Hudson Bell 10 Nephew
Elizabeth Fitzpatrick 26
Rootschat Thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814672.new#new
Hello Ben
1841 CENSUS
Samuel Wright husband of Elizabeth Wright – have a middle name of William to be Eliza Adams wedding witness or Samuel’s brother
Name: Elizabeth Wright
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Where born: Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Shelfanger
Hundred: Diss
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Guiltcross
Sub-registration district: Banham
Household Members: Name
Samuel Wright 29
Elizabeth Wright 24
1850 DEATH
Husband of Elizabeth Wright
Name: Samuel Wright
Registration Year: 1850
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Erpingham
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 13
Page: 79
1850 BURIAL
Husband of Elizabeth Wright
Name: Samuel Wright
Death Age: 38
Record Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1850
Burial Date: 9 Apr 1850
Burial Place: Glanford, Norfolk, England
Parish as it Appears: Glandford
Hello Ben
Please discount Samuel Wright post – Samuel and Elizabeth alive and well together in 1871
Hello Ben
One of the nephews will be your great-grandfather
1841 CENUS
Bell family
Elizabeth Wright’s nephew
One of the nephews will be Ben’s great-grandfather
Name: Thomas Bell
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Civil Parish: Hendon
Hundred: Gore
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Hendon
Household Members: Name:
Thomas Bell 30
Eliza Bell 24
William Bell 1
1851 CENSUS
Bell family
Elizabeth Wright’s nieces and nephews
One of the nephews will be Ben’s great-grandfather
Name: Thomas Bell
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Spouse’s name: Eliza Bell
Where born: Lynn Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Hendon
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Hendon
Household Members: Name
Thomas Bell 44
Eliza Bell 33
Elizabeth Bell 9
Thomas Bell 7
George Bell 6
Henry Bell 4
Emily Bell 9 Mo
1844 BAPTISM
Named after Wright Godparent
Name: George Wright Bell
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Dec 1844
Baptism Place: Hampstead St John, Camden, England
Father: Thomas Hudson Bell
Mother: Eliza Bell
Register Type: Parish Registers
Hi Ben
Please can you still send:-
Mother and father details:
Grandparents details:
to go back to the Bell family – one of the nephews stayed with Widow Elizabeth Wright who lived next to the Dukes Head run by John Bevan or known as ‘Bevans Inn’. The nephew who stayed in the census might not be your great-grandfather, it could be one of the other nephews who stayed in between the censuses.
Did your family call the pub ‘Bevans Inn’ or was that a local name for the pub?
Hello Ben
One more nephew born after his father’s death
1851 DEATH
FATHER OF NEPHEWS
Name: Thomas Bell
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3
Page: 179
1851 BURIAL
FATHER OF NEPHEWS
Name: Thomas Bell
Age: 44
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1807
Death Date: abt 1851
Burial Date: 23 Oct 1851
Burial Place: St Mary, Hendon, Barnet, England
Register Type: Parish Register
1852 BIRTH / BEN POSSIBLE GREAT-GRANDFATHER
Elizabeth Wright Nephew
Name: Frederick Alfred Bell
Registration Year: 1852
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 83
These have been found on Rootschat
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814672.new#new
Your missing family are found
1841 CENSUS
Name: William Wright
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Camden Town
Household Members:
Elizabeth Wright 28 born out of county
Mary Bell 60 born out of county
Elizabeth Reynolds 23
1849 WILL
William Wright, husband of Elizabeth Wright
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D135789
Will of William Wright, Gentleman of Fulham, Middlesex, 12 December 1849
Will of William Wright of 2 Pitts Place Parsons Green Fulham, 1849
1867 PROBATE
Probate of Elizabeth Emma Wright of Parsons Green, 1867
One of the executors is William Hudson Bell, Inspector of Police
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=wright&yearOfDeath=1867&page=6#calendar
Will need to keep an eye on this thread and Rootschat thread, or post a comment on there
Hi Ben
We would like to know which builder built our terrace of houses in Novello Street Parsons Green. Previously known as Crown street. could it have been Norris and Allen?
My great grandfather was a master signwriter who lived in Fulham for most of his life (he died in 1942). My Dad told me he painted the costermongers’ barrows in the market and was a well known character locally. Are there any books you can recommend that might have pictures of the market in the 1900s-1930s? Apparently, he also painted the scenery for the Wild West Show when it came to Earls Court! His name was John Byrnes.
Grateful for any suggestions for further reading!
Nicola Byrnes
I think you might find the http://www.ArthurLloyd.co.uk theatre website of interest. It says the Empress Hall at Earls Court was closed in 1915 for other purposes, only reopening in the 1930’s
An interesting website, thank you. I don’t think the Wild West Show was at the Empress Hall though.
Hello Nicola
Hope you find these interesting.
We have no evidence of our theatrical relatives who lived in the Fulham/Chelsea/Kensington areas in the 1890’s performing in the Wild West Shows or in Barnum’s Circus – BUT our relative Ruth Thrasher/Ruth Jezard/Ruby Jezard later married to Albert Edward Court Chief Of Staff at the London Coliseum in 1905, performed with Jessie Almer who had been a clown for the Barnum’s Circus (researched on Who Do You Think You Are) but it is highly likely they performed in the Wild West Shows and in Barnum’s Circus. Being a widow Priscilla and her daughters were dressmakers and became rich enough to buy 133 Finborough Road, Kensington in the 1890s possibly by making theatrical costumes and fancy dress costumes for the aristocracy who had many expensive themed balls.
Albert and Ruby lived in Lillie Road, Fulham in the 1901 census and Albert is listed as a secretary (we think secretary at the Empress Theatre, Lillie Road). Ruby/Ruth Jezard had performed in the lavish 1898 and 1899 pantomimes at the Drury Lane Theatre.
The scenery must have been spectacular at these shows and the Wild West Shows!
Perhaps the National Fairground and Circus Archive could give you more information about your relative and his theatrical painting work.
Wild West
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/nfca/researchandarticles/buffalobill
Who Do You Think You Are Jessie Almer
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic12104.html
Who Do You Think You Are Buffalo Bill
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03btlgt
Buffalo Bill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bill
Wild West
https://www.thehistorypress.co.uk/articles/buffalo-bill-s-british-wild-west/
Wild West
https://www.olympiaauctions.com/about-us/press-and-blogs/blog-the-olympia-exhibition-centre-a-history-by-john-culme/
Wild West
http://library.centerofthewest.org/cdm/ref/collection/BBOA/id/9377
Wild West
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/the-collections/Pages/earls-court-and-olympia.aspx
Wild West
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2004665264/
Wild West
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_West_shows
Lorraine, thanks so much for the information!
John’s wife, Margaret Byrnes (nee Bishop) was a ‘showgirl’ according to my Nan, her daughter-in-law, who strongly disapproved of her in-laws, but I have no idea whether she used her real name in the halls/ theatres. I doubt she took part in the Wild West Show; my grandfather, their son, told stories of living with a dwarf troupe when he was a child, whilst his father was doing the scenery. A fascinating area of study.
My pleasure, what a fascinating family, what a fascinating area in Victorian and Edwardian times, the imagination used for their beautiful spectacles – and we have instead the O2 Millennium Dome
Victoria & Albert Museum, Theatre & Performance Collections could have more on your family or generally what they would have been doing in the theatrical world
https://www.vam.ac.uk/collections/theatre-performance
British Newspaper Archive – Wild West Show
Lots of articles
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=%22wild%20west%20show%22&phrasesearch=wild%20west%20show&retrievecountrycounts=false&sortorder=score
Hello FHHS
I left two messages for Nicola Byrnes yesterday
The second shorter message I can see
The first longer message I cannot see but it had been approved earlier, there was alot of research in that reply, please can you let me know what is happening.
Thank you
Good evening.
My grandfather Charles David Henwood age 10 is resident at 156 Lillie Road Fulham in 1901.
I believe this was an orphanage. His father died in 1900 and his mother went to America with her new husband, leaving her children behind.
I was told this was a Spurgeon’s Home but they have no record of him.
He always donated to Barnado’s so maybe it was a Barnardo’s home?
Would you have any information, or point me in the right direction
Hello Chris
Home for Orphan and Fatherless Boys setup by Evangalist Sydney Black and Matron, Mrs Stickland works for him as found in the 1901 census with your grandfather
http://www.moellerhaus.com/Rotherham/black04.htm
To one of such warm compassion and benevolent impulsiveness as Sydney Black, this story was overwhelming, and he there and then decided to devote himself to looking after the children of the poor, and well and nobly did he do so. A few rooms at the top of “Twynholm House” were set aside for this work, but the number who needed help and home were so numerous that it was found necessary to take a house to be used solely for the accommodation of the boys. For the purpose a place was secured at 156, Lillie Road, a few hundred yards away from “Twynholm,” and there for some years the Home was located until it proved to be too small.
In all, about £1,400 was expended on the new Home, and in it this splendid work is still carried on, under the devoted care of the present Matron, Mrs. Stickland.
He sent Dr. Barnardo, He sent Benjamin Waugh, the man of whose death we have heard today; and He sent Sydney Black; and I love to think of him as God’s messenger. It is a work which is most precious to men, as well as dear to God. What does it do? It saves the wreckage of society. It saves the wastage of that most precious treasure the world has – child life. There is no asset the nation possesses which is so real and intrinsically valuable as its child population; and here is a hand stretched out to save those who would otherwise be lost.
Sydney Black Preacher & Social Reformer
http://www.moellerhaus.com/Rotherham/blackidx.htm
Any profit that may be derived from the sale of the book will be devoted to the work of the Twynholm Orphanage.
http://london.openguides.org/wiki/?Twynholm_Baptist_Church
Twynholm Baptist Church is a medium sized evangelical church in Fulham. It was originally built as a gin house but for some reason never got a license so was bought up and turned into an orphanage and then a church.
https://www.cte.org.uk/Publisher/File.aspx?ID=176110
He (Sydney Black) also founded the Twynholm Orphanages which were later merged with Spurgeon’s
Orphanage.
https://www.spurgeons.org/about-us/access-your-records-and-old-scholars/
Sorry thought I was getting somewhere then come across the same as you – Spurgeons!
Can only suggest to contact Spurgeons again showing that the orphanages merged and to also ask Fulham Local Archives for any information.
If anyone is aware of where Caldwell Villa used to be, somewhere by North End Road per the birth certificate from 1860, I would be very happy to know of a general area in Fulham. I can’t find Caldwell Villa listed any any old maps yet.Thanks, Catherine
Catherine, I haven’t found mention of Caldwell Villa yet but if you can let me know the name on the birth certificate I could take a look at the Censuses.
Hi Mark, My great uncle’s name was George Bevan. I have a copy of the 1861 census and the family is still at Caldwell Villa. The entry at the very top says North End Road, so maybe the family home was just a building along that road and won’t ever show up on an old map. By the 1871 census they had moved to Elm Stables. Thanks, Catherine
Catherine, I took a look at the 1861 Census and George Bevan shows on the original census document as aged 0 and living at Caldwells Villa but on the transcription on the website I use it has somehow been transcribed as Auckland Cottage, North End Road.
Scrolling on down the page of the original census shows that the next building along from Caldwells Villa was Acacia Cottage. An entry in Feret’s Fulham Old and New says of Acacia Cottage –
“The Garden entrance to the Earls Court Exhibition covers the site of Acacia Cottage and Garden Cottage, picturesque bits of old Fulham”.
The above piece appears in the book after a piece, including a photograph, about The Seven Stars public house (closed in 2010) which I know, (from personal experience of it) stood just past the junction of North End Road and Lillie Road, and not far from West Kensington Station.
My 1871 map of Fulham and Hammersmith shows a number of cottages and a couple of larger buildings (one being The Hermitage and the other unnamed but possibly the Cannon Brewery)) on this stretch of North End Road so I’d say Caldwells Villa was one of the villas (North End Villa being another) along the east side of North End Road somewhere between the junction with Lillie Road and the West Kensington Estate.
Thank you so much for this info. It certainly gives me a better idea as to where the family once lived. Catherine
I amattempting to find out more about what my Grandfather did during WW1 – he was a member of the Quaker Meeting and was living in Hammersmith in 1911. Is it possible that the quarterly meeting minutes still exist for 1914-18? and where might I find them? He was known by the family to be a Conscientious Objector and possible was involved with agriculture and/or the Friends Army
Jenny Dennis
Hello Jenny
I think these people will be the ones to ask:
http://www.hammersmithquakers.org.uk/about-us/our-history/
Members of the Society of Friends (better known as Quakers) have been living and worshipping in Hammersmith since 1658 when Hammersmith and Chiswick were farming villages. The Quakers had begun spreading their form of Christianity in the North of England a few years earlier. George Fox, the Quakers’ founder, taught that all men and women possess an inward light that can lead them to the Truth. People seeking God, he said, can follow this inner prompting and do not need church ministers – a view highly unpopular with religious authorities and the state.
http://www.hammersmithquakers.org.uk/about-us/our-history/
Members of the Society of Friends (better known as Quakers) have been living and worshipping in Hammersmith since 1658 when Hammersmith and Chiswick were farming villages. The Quakers had begun spreading their form of Christianity in the North of England a few years earlier. George Fox, the Quakers’ founder, taught that all men and women possess an inward light that can lead them to the Truth. People seeking God, he said, can follow this inner prompting and do not need church ministers – a view highly unpopular with religious authorities and the state.
Posts disappearing again
I am interested in the life and work of the commercial artist Reginald Heade, who lived at 11 Queen’s Mansions, Brook Green, Hammersmith from the mid-1940s until his death in 1957. Any information anyone has from local sources would be gratefully received!
Hello S J Walker
Why has probate taken two years and the estate went to the county treasurer and children’s officer
I believe commercial artist Reginald Cyril Webb Heade was illegitimate, perhaps Reginald wanted his legacy to be left to vulnerable children
1901 BIRTH
Name: Reginald Cyril Webb
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: West Ham
Mother’s Maiden Name: Webb
Inferred County: Essex
1911 CENSUS
Name: Reginald Cyril Heade
Age in 1911: 9
Relation to Head: Grandson
Birth Place: Forest Gate
Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Street address: 56 Leonard Road
Sub-registration district: Forest Gate
Household Members:
Ann Webb Mother 64
Florrie Webb Daughter 27
Annie Mary Heade ‘Widowed’ Daughter 31
Reginald Cyril Heade Grandson 9
1917 BAPTISM
Name: Reginald Cyril Webb Heade
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1901
Baptism Date: 31 Mar 1917
Baptism Place: Forest Gate, St Saviour, Essex
Father: James Heade traveller
Mother: Annie Mary Heade
There is no marriage for James and Annie
Why wait to be baptised age 15
1925 CITY DIRECTORY
Art Work
https://reviews-and-ramblings.dreamw…g/1043772.html
Name: Reginald Cyril Heade
Company: Petterson & Heade
Residence Place: London
Occupation: Commercial Artist
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Unable to find
Soldier
Using art skills for the war
1957 DEATH
Name: Reginald C W Heade
Death Age: 54
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Hammersmith
1959 PROBATE
Probate to Fred Williams county treasurer and Margaret Ethel Cullen children’s officer
Name: Reginald Cyril Webb Heade
Death Date: 14 Oct 1957
Death Place: London
Probate Date: 25 Mar 1959
Probate Registry: London
https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/93632-ARTIST-REGINALD-CYRIL-WEBB-HEADE?p=672446#post672446
Hi Lorraine. Many, many thanks for the reply about Reginald Heade. Much of that information was already known to me, but some very significant details – including the identity of his father – were not. That is enormously useful.
Hello Stephen
Pleasure.
There are lots of potential James Heade ‘fathers’ on Ancestry who you could contact, asking could your ancestor be the father, family rumour, these days to be sure a DNA test.
Did Reginald or his mother Annie make-up the name James for the father on Reginald’s very late baptism age 15, father James is listed as a traveller, had the father not known he left behind a pregnant woman and had a son and on coming back to the area insisted on a baptism? Who knows?
Hi, I have established that my Grandfather was born in Stanley Cottages, circa 1888, some time before the family moved to Prothero Rd in Fulham, does anybody know where Stanley Cottages would have been please?
Pam,
Much of Fulham was still rural in the 19th century and rows of cottagesre a-planty.
Stanley Cottages were situated in North End Road, Fulham. I’m not sure exactly where but looking at the 1881 Census they are shown as numbers 2 and 3 North End Road and seem to have been close to the Prince of Wales public house in Lillie Road. It seems likely that they were part of Sir John Lillie’s development, planned in 1826, which included the North End Brewery. Other rows of cottages (e.g. Garden Cottages) were also in the vicinity. Within 30 years much of the area was redeveloped into the roads we see today including the Peabody Estate and looks to have swallowed up the rows of cottages.
The Stanley Cottages were probably named after Sir John Stanley who owned property in North End from the 18th century, so perhaps Stanley Cottages pre-dated the Sir John Lillie development.
Oh Mark, that’s great, I have a friend in Hammersmith who will know exactly where that is.
Thank you kindly for your help.
Pam
I’m not sure if it’s possible to amend text but what I wrote in the first line should, of course, have said ‘rows of cottages were a-plenty.’ Must have been the wine….
Thank you for your help with this, it starts to make sense, the family attended the Saint Thomas of Canterbury Church Church and the children all went to the school there as well. It would have been an easy move to Prothero Rd as it is literally just around the corner.
This is wonderful information and thanks again.
There may have been 2 lots of Stanley cottages
Stanley Cottages Fulham SW6 name changed to Rylston Road 1888
Stanley Cottages Fulham W14 & SW6 North End Road # 1884
The second entry looks to me as if they straddled the 2 postal districts possible on the borders of the old Met borough of Fulham, around Gibbs Green
Actually rethinking this it’s more likely to be nearby to Telephone place,as I believe the postal boundaries was there between SW6 and W14,following Lillie Road.
Thanks, Vernon. Rylston Road is in SW6 and is certainly in the right area to have been where Stanley Cottages once stood in North End Road and Prothero Road, where Pam’s family moved to, runs off of Rylston. It’s likely to have been these Stanley Cottages rather than the Gibbs Green ones, which would have been W14 but a long way from the W14 of the West Kensington area of North End Road.
Rylston Road runs parallel with North End Road and does appear on the 1891 Census but Stanley Cottages do not. It’s on the opposite side of North End Road to where I thought Stanley Cottages were but as you say they became part of Rylston Road (it’s quite a long road, running from Lillie Road to Dawes Road) in 1888 you’ve got to be right.
Incidentally, the 1891 Census shows a Stanley Cottage (singular) in Farm Lane which, as you’re probably aware, still survives at the Fulham Broadway (Walham Green) end of North End Road.
An 1871 map of Hammersmith and Fulham seems to show Rylston Road being known as Church Road then, so prior to 1888 Stanley Cottages may well have sat on Church Road. I’ve now checked in my copy of Feret’s Fulham Old and New and it confirms that Rylston Road was once known as Church Road, due to the existence of St Thomas’ Roman Catholic Church, but more properly as Stanley Road. This makes it more likely that this was the location of Stanley Cottages although Feret only mentions Church Cottages and Temperance Cottages as being a row of ‘poor tenements’ at the northern end on the east side of the road. It says these were demolished in 1897.
Hi Pam,
A great uncle of mine was also born at Stanley Cottage, Fulham, per his 1857 birth certificate. There is a web site mapco.net where you can access London maps at different points in time. I also have an image of the area, an 1862 map, showing Stanley Cottage labeled and it was right next to Church Road at the time & a bit west of North End Rd. and slightly north of Dawes Lane. Catherine
That’s fantastic Catherine, thank you for your help with this. I will look at the maps and send the information to my Cousin who still lives in the area.
Thank you again.
Pam
Thanks for telling us about this map website. It had escaped my attention. It will prove most useful in the future,I knew of other online sources, but not this one. Historyaschurchfulham akaVernon. Click picture to discover more.
Glad to be of help. Catherine
Are you aware of the D-Day Event taking place on 8th June in St.Paul’s Gardens! Please see LBHF website for details
Looking for photos of mr alfred frost of 33 chelmsford street w6 a market trader of north end road in the 50s also any photos of the street
There is an extensive selection of photographs of most of the boroughs roads held by LBHF archives at the Hammersmith Library. The archivist is there on a Monday and Tuesday and can be contacted by email archives@lbhf.gov.uk . As for photographs of Mr Frost the best chance would be newspaper articles if there were any newsworthy events in his life or possibly an obituary. Local papers are held on Microfiche at the archive. Your best bet would be to attend personally.
Good luck.
Hi, does anyone remember when Lloyd’s Bank was at Fulham Broadway, originally it was known as Walham Green branch. I remember Walham Green branch on the cheque books, I was hoping someone might remember when the change was made by Lloyd’s to use Fulham Broadway name. Thank you in advance.
Hi, my GGrandparents lived in Prothero Rd and the children all went to the St Thomas of Canterbury Church, Rylston Rd, just around the corner. The mother and one of the girls worked at the Fulham Laundry so my question is this, would there be any digitised records that I could search online please? I live in Australia so it’s not handy to drop in.
Thank you.
What sort of records, and what have you checked already. British newspaper library, National Archives, London Metropolittan Archives,Hammersmith Archives, Findmypast , Genesreunitedetc? All have on line search engines
Thank you for your suggestions, I contacted St Thomas of Canterbury Church some years ago but nothing had been digitised at the time, I also tried to find information about the Fulham Hammersmith Laundry but apparently there were a couple and I have no idea which one my ancestors worked at. I have discovered a lot using Genesreunited and continue to use this great tool.
I would like to know a newspaper website, I haven’t looked there but years ago I went into the Hammersmith Library and it was through the National Archives that I discovered where the family lived.
I’m very greatful for your help and appreciate any further tips. Thank you.
Hello Pam
Just out of interest Chinese sailors setup laundries in Fulham from as early as 1871, your ancestor could have worked at this laundry?
1871 CENSUS
Name: William Achong born 1824 China, Morvern laundry man
Spouse’s name: Sarah Achong laundress
Sister: Jamima Corke laundress
Civil Parish: Fulham
Street Address: 2 Maxwell Road
1878 UK CITY & COUNTY DIRECTORIES
Commercial
Achong William laundry 36 Maxwell Road
1878 UK CITY & COUNTY DIRECTORIES
Laundries
Achtong Wm 36 Maxwell Road Fulham SW
1880 LONDON ENGLAND CITY DIRECTORIES
Commercial
Achong William laundry 36 Maxwell Road Fulham SW
1881 CENSUS
Name: William Achong born 1826
Spouse: Sarah Achong laundress
Daughter: Eleanor Achong work in laundry
Where born: (B S), China
Civil Parish: Fulham
Street address: 36 Maxwell Rd
Hello Pam
Didn’t realise laundries could be so interesting.
http://www.avictorian.com/servants_laundry.html
https://www.tate.org.uk/art/research…girls-r1136823
http://www.britishchineseheritagecen…B4%97%E8%A1%A3
http://www.oldandinteresting.com/his…g-clothes.aspx
Click to access up…-laundress.pdf
https://englishhistoryauthors.blogsp…d-laundry.html
Have read an interesting article previously (but now can’t find!!) about the health of laundry workers being affected by the constant wet and damp – but people were exposed to so many diseases being housed so closely together, with so many people in the same rooms.
With regard to damp, bed linen every morning had to be thrown back to ‘air’ and then a metal bed pan used each evening to remove any accumulated damp which could cause serious illness overnight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bed_warmer
Watching the Antiques Roadshow Victorian householders and those travelling to lodging houses/boarding houses would use a damp detector every night in their bed before going to sleep so they could make arrangements to remove excess damp.
That is so interesting, who would have thought about that and I wonder what a dampness detector was?
I would appreciate someone telling me about Goldings Cottages. My great great grandmother Harriet (?) Sedwell lived there ca 1870. Anything about the run of cottages would be of interest. My brother thought that it might have a religious cast to it. Any detail on the Sedwells would be a bonus. Her daughter Charlotte Jane married William McLean (address Savages Greengrocers, Queens Terrace (?), Kings Road, Fulham according to the 1871 census. and they emigrated to Auckland in 1874 on the ‘Miltiades’. Thanks in advance for any comment – Vernon Tupper
Golding’s Cottages were in Fulham SW6 and the address was part of Sands End Lane in 1902,the row of old cottages was demolished about the time. (Feret) They were near Sandford manor house close by Stanley Bridge., if one passed down the narrow passage way to the Manor house Golding’s buildings were on the right.The estate itself was purchased by the Imperial gas works in 1824.
The West London observer has the following advert in 1887.
3 GOLDING’S COTTAGES, Sands End Lane, Fulham. House TO Let, suit Laundress, large rooms and drying ground; I0s, per week. the ad ran for 3 weeks in June
Thank you for this understanding. I live in Auckland (a fair distance away in time and space) so my ‘picture’ of these equally distanced people and their lives is bare bones. The details you have provided allow me to add a little flesh.
Best wishes Vern
Just to sat that the British newspaper library now has Fulham Chronicle on line from1913 to 1949
Are you able to help me with Fulham schools and education 1844-1851? My great-grandfather was Samuel Knight born 1839 in Fulham, from a middle-upper working class family. He received a very good education. I have found one private school on Fulham Rd run by Thomas & Graham Hackman 1839 which he may have attended – if it was still open 1844 onwards?
Looking forward to any further information you may be able to provide.
Thank you, Berris Knight Spicer
Up to the end of the 19th century education was provided by church , charity or private sectors; the porch school was founded in Fulham Church(All Saints) in the 17th c. In 18th and 19th c. schools were mainly private, many only lasting a few years.There were 10 listed in the 1841 census, but only 4 in 1851 * and 1861.
I list her the schools available in 1841 census
Mulgrave Avenue School
Richmond Road school
Portland Place school
Parsons Green school
Burlington Road School *
Kensington Hall school *
Pitt Place School
Cedar House School *
Melville House School *
London Road School
If you can give us the road he lived in we might be able to get a more accurate name.
The Hackmans school was in the High Street (Fulham?) in 1831, this could have be the old porch school and the site where Fulham Pre-Prep school, but formerly All Saints primary school is today
Vernon, Alfred Hackman, born in Fulham in 1811, matriculated as a servitor student at Christ Church College, Oxford in 1832 and had a connection with the Bodleian Library for over 35 years, rising to sub-librarian. He also became chaplain and precentor of Christ Church, and vicar of Cowley (near Oxford). Fascinatingly, his 1851 Census entry shows his occupation as ‘With Cure Of Souls’!’ The address is shown as 1, High Street, Fulham.
His father, Thomas, was the parochial vestry clerk in Fulham and I suspect the Hackman’s School was a Church school run by members of the same family. Thomas Hackman shows as the oldest family member in the 1841 Census. His wife is also shown along with four of their other children as well as 41 other children between the ages of 7 and 15, presumably pupils. In fact, the 1841 Census shows the Hackman family at presumably the same location as in the 1851 Census but Fulham High Street was then known as London Road, which was the stretch of Fulham Road, no more than a narrow lane, that ran from Fulham High Street to Fulham Broadway, and didn’t have a door number as such. That stretch had been known as London Road in records of 1442 and probably earlier.
Mark, Thanks for this, will now add to ASChurch info file.
Hi, My 2 great-uncle was born at Caldwell’s (or Caldwell) Villa by/on North End in 1860, per his birth certificate. I have a set of the 1862 Stanford maps and can’t find Caldwell’s Villa on it. Do any of you know where it might have been located in 1860?
Thanks, Cate
Hi.
My great grandfather (William Charles Butcher) died in Fulham Broadway in April 1893, trampled by a horse. I have searched through newspaper archives etc but have found no real details of the event. Were such things that common? Can anyone fill in the blanks?
Many Thanks
John Butcher
Hello John
As William died violently the coroner should have held an inquest, the details will be on William’s death certificate (do you already have the death certificate or is this a family story that has been handed down the generations). My great-grandfather was trampled by a horse and cart but survived with terrible leg injuries causing him to become an alcoholic to dull the pain, this was a ‘family story’ but then evidenced when we found his records in a children’s hospital. Another relative had his head decapitated at an air field in WWI where he was working in 1918 aged only 16 had only just started working for the war effort – on his death certificate the coroner puts his comments and the report found in several newspapers and at the local archives.
I used the British Newspaper Archive for William but no joy, so suggest you obtain the death certificate and contact the local archives.
I noticed from William’s marriage in 1889 that he was a (horse drawn) bus conductor and in the 1891 census a (horse drawn) omnibus driver, the accident may have happened through his work or just in everyday life.
Coroner Holds Inquest If Violent Death Reported
https://www.gov.uk/after-a-death/when-a-death-is-reported-to-a-coroner
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/births-deaths-and-marriages/deaths/coroners-and-mortuary
Early English Traffic: Turn of the Century London (1896-1903)
British Pathé
Show very busy roads with horse drawn vehicles including omnibuses
The Horse World Of London
The Omnibus Horse
https://www.victorianlondon.org/publications6/horse-01.htm
Public transport in Victorian London: Overground
https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/information/item/2008-1998
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsebus
Conductors License
Click to access key-dates-in-the-history-of-london-transport.pdf
TfL Corporate Archives Research Guides
Research Guide: Sources for Genealogical Research
If a work related death could help with how to research
Click to access research-guide-no-17-sources-for-genealogical-research.pdf
Transport for London Corporate Archives
The Story of the Bus and London Transport
Click to access year-of-the-bus-exhibition-2014.pdf
Busman’s Holiday
http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/ar-bus1.htm
The Displacement of London’ s Horse Omnibus
http://archive.commercialmotor.com/article/17th-january-1907/3/the-displacement-of-london-s-horse-omnibus
The London Omnibus
http://knowledgeoflondon.com/buses.html
Omnibuses and Cabs
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Omnibuses_and_Cabs/Part_I/Chapter_IX
Do you know the history of the Wharfs near Fulham Football ground. One is called Palace Wharf.E.G. When were they built and why. Any help gratefully received
For a list of wharves see my post in Contact us for 10 Jan 2018. Hammersmith and Fulham had a number of Riverside industry and businesses, including coal imports, marble imports, dust shoots , sugar manufacturers , oil and petrol importers etc. The wharves would have been constructed as the industries developed.Palace wharf was built in 1907 on land owned by James Attersoll acquired in 18th c. ,who had malthouses on was once was Crabtree fields other wharves followed after 1907 including the one for j. Mears and sons who Built the embankment wall for Bishops Park.
Hi there 🙂
I was wondering if anyone would be able to tell me anything about the addresses 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10 Broadway, Walham Green SW. My great great grandmother Mabel Doris Flewett is living there on the 1911 census as a draper’s assistant. Googling it hasn’t come up with anything unfortunately. Many thanks, Susie Longstaff.
2,3,4,5,6, Fulham Broadway(Walham Green) was next door to the pub at 571 Fulham Road, and was the premises of Timothy Davies Ltd Drapers. I believe there were flats above the shops, so may well have been for their employees. I have not checked the census records which will certainly give a clue to the numbers present there.
When the store closed (cant remember when) but I did go in there in late 50s it became a Council department for Social Services, and library bookstore, and then became the Blue elephant Thai restaurant. If you google Blue elephant Fulham you will find a picture and a street sign giving the numbers of the block.
Vernon, I don’t know if you are aware that Timothy Davies was Welsh and established a Methodist chapel in Effie Road in 1897.
I cannot remember Timothy Davies store being open during WW2.; it must have closed about 1939. At one time it was a British Restaurant during the War. The food was not brilliant. – we only ate there once!.
OLD HAMMERSMITH MARKET (BRADMORE LANE)
I have previously had some amazing responses to my comments on this site regarding the old market and my family (the Dear family). I have become conscious that, as the generations that directly worked within the market have passed, it has seemingly become a largely forgotten part of everyday Hammersmith life. I have also been surprised at how few photographs appeared to exist of the Bradmore Lane market.
As a consequence, I established a Facebook group page in January to remember and celebrate the market.
The group page is titled “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered” and, as the members have grown, it now includes some wonderful photographs and information about the families and people that so influenced the market, from its inception at the turn of the 20th Century, through to its closure (in Bradmore Lane) in 1972.
I am particularly keen to find descendants of the Parker family (a key part of the Hammersmith market history).
If interested, or able to add to the group, please feel free to visit.
Many Thanks,
Cary Sumpter
Hi Cary, I was born in Hammersmith lived in Overstone Road, and then I lived with my Nan in Shortlands. In the sixties. My Family name was Roberts, my uncle was married to Ada Parker.. I have fond memories of Hammersmith market. I’m trying to get on Facebook.and look forward to reading other peoples memories.my uncle billy Roberts had a fruit and veg shop at the bottom of beacon hill just opposite overstone road. That was in the late fifties early sixties.. I could go on and on.as so many memories.
Hi Lorraine,
I lived in Shortlands & remember you & your family well. I used to play a lot with Susan I think we were the same age. You would know me as Valerie Todd.
Hi Valerie, lovely to hear from you, I have such good memories of Shortlands, but, all changed now. How the years have flown by. I find this site very interesting, and always looking out for anybody I know. As I’m getting older, often think of my life at Shortlands, and what fun we had growing up there. Saturday morning pictures, firework night, with the big bonfire by the mews. Sue Keith and I often get together with our families, although we are not to far away from each other.
Hi I was born in Hammersmith. I know the name of Ada Parker- did she have a son called John? My name is Graham Kent.
Hi Graham, yes Ada did have a son named John
I went to primary school with John and I remember his parents having a fruit and veg stall in the market, which is no longer there. He also had a sister but I cant remember her name.
Hi Graham,
Suggest that you may like to visit our group on Facebook titled “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered” which includes contributions from the Parker family, as well as some lovely photos, including some of Ada Parker and family.
Regards,
Cary Sumpter
Hi Graham,
I have just picked-up your reply to Lorraine Lebby regarding Ada Parker, from the Parker’s stall in the old Hammersmith Market. If of interest, please take a look at our Facebook page “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”, which has many posts regarding the Parker family, as well as photos of Ada and her family.
Kind Regards,
Cary Sumpter
Just seen your post asking [ descendants Parker family ) my name. Is James always known as Bill my father had his own stall opposite end to Parker’s shop his name was John his stall was mainly fruit we had another stall next to this mainly fruit of the season ie strawberries some time flowers my stall was vegetables live just before market closed we took on the shop you mentioned ( Roberts) people who had len
& ivy Bexley ivy was related to your uncle bill any further questions contact me e mail supplied.
Thanks James
I have passed on your email address. Hopefully you should hear soon.
Hi – my grandparents owned a restaurant in the early 1950s in Beadon Road. I believe it was no 45 or 47 and called Beadon’s (before the office blocks!). The owners, my grandparents, were Greek-Cypriot immigrants and I’m told that famous actors rehearsing and performing at the Lyric Theatre would go in for breakfast, lunch or dinner – including Kenneth Williams, Paul Schofield, Sylvia Simms, Richard Burton, Trevor Howard and so on and so on. The list was endless but the celebrities would go nowhere else and were regulars! I have two or three photos of the inside, but cannot find any archive photos of the frontage on Beadon Road in the late 40s or 50s. If anyone remembers the restaurant, the people or knows about this era i would love to hear. My grandad’s name was “Jack” (Melis Jacovides) and he befriended anybody with a joke and his wife was “Jennie” (Yianoulla). Jack was also a barber by trade (starting out in Kings Cross with a barber shop! Jennie was the head cook and also a dressmaker. They lived in Ealing and my mum went to the Corona stage school around the corner to the restaurant (and her claim to faim was that she was in a couple of productions, including an extra in St Trinians films, in the same class as Dennis Waterman, Carol White, Richard O’Sullivan and Francesca Annis!). Thanks for any info – I’m nostalgic because my mum and grandparents all passed away in the last 20 years.
Melina, I have a group set-up on Facebook, called “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”, which may be of interest to you? Apart from old photos of the market, we also have some old photos of Glenthorne Road and Beadon Road, which I think might show your grandparents restaurant. Regards, Cary
Hi Cary – I just saw this and will join the facebook group ! Also, I have just this minute read your message on facebook – thank you so much!
Hello, I’d appreciate any help with information on Rev John J. Crowley, pp, St Thomas of Canterbury Fulham. I believe he was there from 1899 for around 40 years.
I look forward to your reply. Many thanks in advance.
Hi
I wonder if anyone can help solve a puzzle for me.
A friend’s great grandparents, Robert and Helen Martin White lived at a “normal” house at 45, Felden Street, Fulham but it was requisitioned by the government at the start of WW2 (yes, WW2) and was never given back to them.
We can’t think why an ordinary house would be requisitioned, and why it was never given back.
Graham Corio
You might be interested in this link, Graham –
https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1954/jul/20/requisitioned-houses
Our book Fulham in the Second World War only mentions a fatality from an incendiary bomb in 1943 at Felden Street. So nothing obvious but there may be more detailed information in the LBHF Archive in Hammersmith Library (archives@lbhf.gov.uk ). Searching their online catalogue suggests there may be some documents relating to requisitions for housing. The archivist is there Mondays and Tuesdays. Good luck
Hello we would love someone from the society to come to our office and talk to us about the history of Fulham so we can relay the information to those clients who are interested. Would anyone be able to do this? I look forward to hearing from you. Ann Benson
Dear Ann,
If you’ll forgive a shameless attempt to sell a book, I was born in 1934 at 477 Fulham Road and lived there until 1960. I wrote about it in, The Rising Son. It’s available at Amazon and all good booksellers as they say.
Kind regards
James Kelso
Dear Ann – I published a book on the local area in 2015, Wild about Fulham and my historian might be interested in helping you. If you’d like to get in touch please let me know – best regards AW
Hi.
I am trying to trace my paternal grandfather. As far as I know he was from Cyprus and met my father’s mother at the hammersmith theatre. I wonder if there were any records of patrons names around 1962. I have found who I believe to be him on the st marylebourne census from 1963 – 1965 but then disappears. May not even be him. The name on my fathers birth certificate is Dimitrios Dimitriou. Any help would be greatly appreciated
I am sure this is a long shot but I went to Holland Park School, 1959/64. We were a League of Nations at that time and someone by that name was in my class. Are you referring to the Hammersmith Palais? Very popular at the time.
I grew up in Archel Road, Fulham in the fifties and quite a lot of Greek Cypriot families came over at that time. And it was a common name. We had a family of the same name came to live opposite us.
Do you have a birth or marriage date that might help? Also any names of children?
I guess that the theatre was the Lyric. Hammersmith Palais was a dance hall.
Hello, I would like to find out about an incident of a scaffolding collapse in Dawes Rd SW6 in 1973 I think. Many thanks. Ian.
Unless someone reading your post can narrow down the date it would be a bit of a labour to search the microfilm copies of the local papers at the Archives in Hammersmith Library. You could try a search of British Newspaper Archive
Good luck
Any idea where this location is? Postcard says Hammersmith
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Hi I’m away at present but may be able to
Find out some info in a couple weeks time
Do you know s month or date when this
Occurred
Brian Jeffreys
Hi Brian
About 1914.
Possible location: Rutland Road, Bridge View near Hammersmtih Bridge.
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Keith W. Howard
I recall that there was a dairy in Wandsworth Bridge road towards the south end, I think the name was OWEN. It was next to an antique junk store back in the 1950’s. https://www.google.ca/maps/@51.4738553,-0.1919862,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9e_V2M-yfp13P_SHqZb8lQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Mike
Yes there was a dairy called “Owen” in Wandsworth Bridge Road near St Matthew’s church. I am not sure if it was “Owen jones” though
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We hope to record brief audio interviews with Londoners who witnessed – or whose relatives witnessed – V2 attacks or their aftermath.
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I am trying to find out information on the dairy my Nan owned in Battersea it was called PD Owen dairy
Miranda best if you contact the LB of Wandsworth Archive for information 👍
There was an Owen milkman in Fulham, so perhaps the firm spread across the river, and an Owen dairies company still exists today. If you check google books there is a publication called Growing up in Fulham, with an entry that starts…Owen the milkman, a genial balding Welshman with a wholly undeserved reputation as a ladies’ man, had a small, old-fashioned dairy on the corner of Lalor and Waldemar Avenue
My Grandfather George Thomas Groves was a milkman in the Hammersmith area from an early age. The 1911 census shows him as a milkman age 19 but the 1901 census shows him age 9 with no further details. He had no education and family information was that he was “carrying heavy milk cans around London” from when he was a child. He lived at 4 Beavor Lane, Hammersmith and came to Australia in 1912. It would be interesting to know how milkmen operated at the time. Also anything on Beavor Lane which is now completely different from what it was then.
Vernon, you forgot to mention that the lovely book Growing Up In Fulham was written by that old Sloane boy, Harry Turner. Owen appears on page 14 and his dairy was on the corner of Waldemar Avenue and Lalor Street. The Welsh always seemed to run a dairy in Fulham. A couple of Welsh sisters named Jenkins ran our local dairy which stood in Burnthwaite Road. In 1900 it was estimated that half of all dairies in London were Welsh due to an influx of Welsh dairymen into London in the mid-19th century. Most came from the Cardiganshire area and were forced to move on as a result of hard times in Wales.
Hello from Colorado! I came across a census record from 1841 and I am trying to clarify a few items to verify a possible relative. Between the two pages of the census record, there are about 40 people listed, 22 with the surname either “Lee” “Loo” or “Leo”. All but one of the children have this surname, and all the others are women between 25 and 40. None of the men listed have this surname. Is this an indicator that it was a brothel? Orphanage? Or something else? The streets referenced are Munster Road, then the second looks something like “Byrons Green Lane” or “Barrons Green Lane”? Either way, it doesn’t appear to exist anymore. Any ideas?
-Sarah Harris
The other road name may be PARSONS Green Lane – not very far from Munster Road
Hello Sarah
What is the full name, birth date, place of birth of your possible ancestor, so we can go into the 1841 census and then look through the image pages you are talking about that have Lee, Loo or Leo.
What is the full name, birth date, place of birth of one of the men you talking about, so we can go into the 1841 census and then look through the image pages you are talking about that have Lee, Loo or Leo.
I had a relative boarding in a small mews cottage in Mayfair with other girls and a matron, no indication what type of premises. By googling the address found out was a church school for girls who mothers were widows (looking at the other girls found their fathers had died and girls came from large families living in that area of London).
Munster Road To Parsons Green Lane
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/parsons+green+lane/muster+road/@51.4757473,-0.2090259,16z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x48760f9ce76e6475:0xaf2af9ed4442d45d!2m2!1d-0.2007733!2d51.4759458!1m5!1m1!1s0x48760f9f25e3e501:0x9636dcea06d9b99e!2m2!1d-0.2096899!2d51.4769571!5i1
I am trying to trace a relative – William Burley who attended Ackmar Rd. Schl.in 1902.His next of kin was given as Fulham Guardians,9 Parson’s Green. Was this Henniker House ? Is there any further info. available?
Ackmar Road School was where, temporarily, children taken into care, orphans, went and they lived around the corner at 9 Parsons Green. If you are interested I have a photo of number 9, now part of Lady Margaret’s School, the Old School House, the cornerstone of the new Ackmar Road School where your relative went. I have had success in tracing relatives in the Board of Guardians records both in the London Archives and on Ancestry. It is amazing how well they documented children even down to when they reached 14 and were found employment, how much they were paid per week. Personally I know of the places Roman Catholic children were sent, a convent in Brook Green for girls, two orphanages in Heston, Middx. For boys, St. Mary’s and St. Vincent’s.
Hello, my Mum recently showed me her biological grandmother’s Mrs Beeton’s book And in the front is written an address which doesn’t seem to now exist. I wondered if you have any information about it. The date is 1930, the name is Miss R Roberts and the address is 2 Madeline Mews, High Street, Putney SW15.
I would be grateful for any information.
Best wishes
Tammie
Hello Tammie I think you need the. London Borough of Wandsworth Archive for your enquiry Good Luck 👍
My great grandfather, Caleb Collins (1856-1930), was London City Missionary at Eelbrook Common from 1889 to 1924 and lived at 2 Hartismere Road with his wife Alice and large family. He contributed to the Booth survey in 1899. I would be interested to know whether anything further is known about him.
I live in Cape Town. Many thanks.
London City Mission has a very extensive archive. I copy here some details for others who may be interested from their website
ARCHIVES
The Mission, which was established in May 1835, has an extensive collection of records and archives which could be of interest to social historians and family researchers.
Where academic or professional researchers use our material, we ask that they supply us with a copy of their findings, which we may freely use for our own (not-for-profit) purposes.
KEY ELEMENTS OF THE ARCHIVES
LCM Magazine (1836 onwards) including much material from missionaries’ daily journals and annual reports
LCM Magazine Indexes 1836 – 1899
LCM Magazine Indexes 1900 – 1963
LCM Magazine Indexes 1964 – 1968
LCM Annual Reports (1835 onwards)
Minutes of the LCM Committee (weekly meetings from 1835)
Family history related e.g. Register of Missionaries
Unpublished annual reports of individual missionaries, autobiographical accounts, etc.
Photos and scanned images
Annotated bibliography
We have gradually accumulated a number of studies on individual missionaries. Sometimes these only contain the basic details of when a person joined the Mission and when they left or died, together with a short published obituary. Others contain much more detailed information e.g. mentions in Committee minute books and long extracts from obituaries, where they exist.
There is a form on their website to complete.
If you’d like to make an enquiry about our archives, please complete the form below or telephone us on 020 7407 7585.
Archive research is done by volunteers and is very time-consuming. If you request a particular document, we would appreciate a donation to our funds – thank you.
Thank you so much for your detailed reply. It is due to an application to the LMS Archive in 2007 that I know anything at all about my great grandfather’s professional life as a Missionary in the Fulham area. Their help was invaluable.
My current inquiry was spurred by old newspaper reports which mentioned him briefly in the formal language of the times. There was also a longer report concerning the suicide of his sister (a Baptist lady missionary) in his house in Hartismere Road in 1897 – a tragedy of which I and my family were entirely ignorant.
He had 11 children from two marriages, none of whom settled permanently in Fulham.
The West London Observer 14th May 1914 records in a lengthy piece the death of the first wife, who bore him 10 children, mentioning the Imperial road Mission hall, which Christ Church Fulham was involved with, and later the a LCMmissioner was at CC in the 1980’s. There is a lengthy list of mourners. There are a number of entries for the family in the British Newspaper online library archive. The Bath Chronicle records the death of his last surviving daughter and records Caleb as being a rector of Stedham-cum-Heyshott,
Thank you so much for further information about Caleb Collins of the LCM. The final sentence: “The Bath Chronicle records the death of his last surviving daughter and records Caleb as being a rector of Stedham-cum-Heyshott,” does not refer to him, however. The rector was an ordained Anglican clergyman of the same name who – as far as we know – was not related to Fulham’s Caleb Collins (who retired to Parham in Suffolk, the county of his birth). London City Missionaries were not ordained and were known as Mr. rather than Rev.
Hello Jackie
Currently looking through the British Newspaper Archives
There are several stories relating to Caleb Collins, will send over soon
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
One story is extremely tragic in 1897
RE: Caleb Collins of Fulham
Thank you so much for your interest and help. I do know about the suicide of Caleb Collins’ sister in 1897, poor soul. There was another person of the same name who lived at the same time and was a parson in the established church. He was always referred to as Rev. Collins, unlike Caleb Collins the LMS missionary, who was a Mr.
Kind regards,
Jackie Loos
Yes I went through the British Newspaper Archives, there were many entries about him, very active with the Peterboro Benevolent Fund and Band Of Hope, too many articles to fully extract, just look up and read about.
Peterborough Benevolent Society
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001984/19160310/081/0005
The amount collected at that festival is the chief source of revenue relied upon by the society, whose work is well known in the district, where it has been established some 81 years, having distributed over £10,000 to the deserving poor of Fulham.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F116538
Death Of Mrs C Collins
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000973/19140508/074/0004
DEATH MRS. C. COLLINS, EELBROOK HALL MISSIONARY’S SAD LOSS. Mr. Caleb Collins, of Hartismere House, Hartismere Road, Fulham, and missionary Eel Brook Hall, has been the recipient of many messages of condolence the loss he has sustained the death of his wile, Mrs. Alice Jane Collins. Mrs. Collins, who was 61 years of age, died on Sunday from heart failure, consequent upon catarrh of the stomach. Born Dorking, in Surrey, Mrs. Collins married her husband at Morden in 1877. Thirty two vears ago Mr. Collins became attached the London City Mission and was appointed a hall which stood in Turks’ Row. and Mrs. Collins lived Battersea at that time. When the old houses there were swept away a great number of the inhabitants came to Fulham, and Mr and Mrs. Collins followed, Mr. Collins being appointed missionary at Eel Brook Hall, Imperial-Road. This was about thirty years ago.
Band Of Hope
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19131107/033/0003
The Band of Hope children West London gathered at the Town Hall, Fulham, on Friday evening, for the annual concert. The boys from the Twynholm Orphanage in Fulham Road provided the bulk of an entertaining programme, and Mr. Will Hardy can be justly proud of the admirable troupe of juvenile entertainers he has made of the Twynholm Orphanage boys, who both in their individual items as well as in their group efforts display marked ability.
Band Of Hope, Temperance Organisation
https://spartacus-educational.com/REhope.htm
Band Of Hope Review, Magazine
http://www.victorianweb.org/periodicals/bandofhope.html
Charles Booth
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/
No wonder Caleb Collins worked alongside Charles Booth
What a person to be related to!
Sorry to FHHS users, now can’t see when people have responded to a comment, and getting other odd messages about duplicate work when the first work isn’t showing up on screen. Computers!
Thank you SO much for your work on the LMS missionary Caleb Collins, you are a star!
My pleasure
People so poor needed help, so you had the selfish rich in society going on guided tours of the slums with more money to buy several homes, fashionable clothes, nourishing food and entertainment than sense and then people like your ancestor supporting many societies raising money to help the most needy, who had no money or little money, so rented a bed on a shift system or just sitting down with a rope to hold them up while they slept, bought second hand clothes so the working class walked around in unfashionable rags, ate cheap poisoned adulterated rotten food and drank themselves into oblivion.
In the workhouses you see a labourer listed alongside a lawyer, no-one deserved to be treated in that way,
Deserving poor and undeserving poor
http://www.herinst.org/BusinessManagedDemocracy/culture/work/deserving.html
https://forthefainthearted.com/2012/12/26/workhouse-grief/
I am trying to found out Fulham Thursday F.C. runners up in 1908/9
Thursday metropolitan shield
I got married in 1970 at the registry office in Hammersmith Road. I wonder if there are any photos of it anywhere
Hi
my paternal grandmother and all of her brothers and sisters hail from Iffley road in Hammersmith and I’m looking into a tragedy during the war where several firemen died fighting a gas fire in the area.
Do you have any r3cord of this?
Thank you in advance.
Nick Smith.
My maternal grandmother was born at 27 Iffley Road, Hammersmith. I’d be very interested to know any history of the area.
Alison Saunders
Hi – Having ;looked at the 1911 cencus, it seems a close ancestor and family lived at 337-339 Fulham Road and it looks like it was a public house ……can anyone tell me what it was called and also whether there would be any photos anywhere
Seems to be Mandaloun Restaurant and Wyndhams butchers now. This is in Kensington and Chelsea so probably best starting point is their archives. They will have directories, maps and rate books.
Good luck in your quest.
Thx – I will
The
Goat in boots was at 333 Fulham Road, a very old historic pub, that was called the Goat up to 1725.
335 and 337 are listed in a pub index, but no name is given, except the proprietor at that time. He and previous owners of the site are described as beer retailers. Perhaps they sold beer to pubs and shops etc.
Can anyone tell me the the connection between Myles Coverdale, the bible translator, and the Primary School, in Shepherds Bush, apparently named after him? Frederick
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The Borough of Hammersmith had two public swimming pools. one was the Lime Grove swimming Pools and the other Was an open air swimming pool on Bloemfontein Road.
The libraries have a blog with illus. about the Bloemfontein one, llbhflibraries.wordpress.com whilst info can be found at http://www.lostlidos.co.uk on lime grove baths
on recent search i found old maps of hammersmith say way back in 1900 sorry cannot remember the site also KELLYS DIR MAY HELP
i think one of the university’s has done a free site to explore bit difficult but with trail and error it is very good vic hill hammersmith 1958 /62
Thank you for the info
Thanks for that info – I assumed they ran a pub but maybe they sold beer to pubs as you suggested…
Hi.
Has anyone come across a teacher by the name of Lillian Emmeline Martin. She was born in 1889 Chelsea the family lived in Fulham 1891-1911 adenc(e)y road & aspenlea road. She is on the 1939 reg as teacher living in east sheen av Barnes( where did she teach?)
I went to Munster Road Primary School in the 1950s but have seen a photo that purports to be of the Munster Road Secondary School in 1947. I’ve never heard of a school by that name so wonder whether they might have got the name wrong. It was a mixed school. Any ideas?
I went to Munster rd “modern secondary” school in 42 I was 10yrs old………. It sat in a triangle of land between Bishop St,Filmer Rd and Munster Rd from which it took its name.At the junction of
Filmer and Munster rd lies Swift St on the corner of which is a bakers shop.A 2lb loaf cost 4old pence/or four bread rolls for
1 old penny!!!! I lived in Swift St.
P/s the bakers shop is still there—76yrs later and still in business
St John’s Cof E Primary School now occupies that site see the other school in this part of Munster Road is Fulham Cross Girls School. There are pictures of the buildings on both websites.
Thanks, P Jenkins.
That’s the first time I knew that my old Primary school had also been a Secondary Modern. Given the year you were there I wonder if it was one of the many amalgamated schools that were created during wartime for those children who weren’t evacuated..My old Grammar school, Sloane, in Chelsea, was the West London Emergency Secondary School for Boys during the Second World War.
Hi again
Was there in 1940’s a hardware or ironmongeryshop in Hammersmith
thank you
Hi
can you please tell me what the Hammersmith Baths were called in about 1937
Thanks for all your information. That’s really helpful. I hope to visit it sometime soon.
Kind Regards,
Lynne. 😀
Does anyone know anything about a lady called Victoria Maud Polson (names maybe the wrong way round). She was a book keeper for an electrical company in 1920 when she had my dad James wyse Polson. Don’t think she was married. Her address was castle Street (or road) Fulham. He was then fostered out to lady in Brighton. Dad passed away 12 years ago and we have never been able to find anything out.any info would be great
Hello Ruth
There isn’t a Castle Street or Castle Road – do you mean Castletown Road?
https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/w149hg
Electrical company, could be absolutely anywhere?
Fulham Power Station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulham_Power_Station
Lots Road Power Station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lots_Road_Power_Station
Lillie Bridge Depot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillie_Bridge_Depot
1920 BIRTH
Name: James Wyse Polson
Registration Date: Apr 1920
[May 1920]
[Jun 1920]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother’s Maiden Name: Polson
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 667
Do you have James’ birth certificate? If so, is that all the information you have?
1927 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
40 Lillie Road
Name: William Robert Wyse
Year: 1927
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Fulham East and West
2 minute walk from Castletown Road to Lillie Road
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+far+lillie+road+to+castletown+road&oq=how+far+lillie+road+to+castletown+road&aqs=chrome..69i57.8010j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Just some ideas, need more information really, or you do a DNA test and then wait for contact.
Looking for photos with st Edmunds rc comprehensive winning west London cup in 1977 or 78,would really appreciate your help
HI – do you know details of any factories in the Lilly Road area of Fulham that manufactured or worked with dyes, leather, rubber, textiles, or paints by any chance please?
Could this be Chaney Laundry or Morgan Crucible works?
I have found via Find A Grave where a relative is buried. I wrote to LBHF to ask if they had any contact information for this grave, wrote a letter asking for it to be forwarded with my details of the connection. I have drawn a blank with no replies from either.
The relative in question is buried in Sheen Cemetery, born and lived in Fulham, had a wife, children, grandchildren and was my grandmother’s brother though she did not know him. If we could find this family, this would be the first contact with anyone from my grandmother’s side. She was brought up in an orphanage and a half brother killed in WW1 was the only relative she claimed to know of. Is there a way of finding out the owners of this grave? It appears to be well tended.
There are two cemeteries in Sheen and my grandmother is buried in the other one. Unbelievable.
Hello Susan
I would send an EMAIL to Hammersmith & Fulham Council Cemeteries & Burials Office asking for reply to your letters previously sent and un-responded to. If you are able to visit ask for a meeting with the Cemeteries & Burials Office
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/births-deaths-and-marriages/deaths/cemeteries-and-burials
North Sheen Cemetery, in London Borough Of Richmond but managed by Hammersmith & Fulham Council
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sheen_Cemetery
East Sheen Cemetery, in London Borough Of Richmond and managed by London Borough Of Richmond
https://www.richmond.gov.uk/east_sheen_cemetery
Can you give any names of the relatives mentioned to look up, dates, places, occupations or do you want to keep names unknown to researchers.
If you find the relatives you mention in Ancestry you can send a message to people researching that family tree.
If you do not have Ancestry then go to your local library/local archives and use their Ancestry to contact your relatives (in your message you might want to also put your email address as the relatives would reply to the library service/archive service).
Hello,
I am searching my maternal grandmothers family, she was an orphan. The only definite I have of her is a school photograph which has a chalk board at the front stating Waterloo Street School Class 1. She had a brother she lost contact with before they were adults. I have found a school record which is a possible for being her but I don’t know how I can confirm it is her? I could not find a record of her brother. Can anyone help me please?
Searching since 1990.
Regards
Sheila
One of our regulars on this page has researched Waterloo Street School and states that the registers are held at the London Metropolitan Archive. Without names, dates and possible addresses it is difficult to suggest how to proceed. Armed with what you know the Archivist at LBHF based in Hammersmith Library on a Monday or Tuesday may be able to help.
Good luck
If you would like to leave names, dates, other useful information be happy to look up on Ancestry for you and then whatever else may be able to find elsewhere.
Hi. Firstly thanks to all for the great work done on here – always a fascinating read. I am trying to trace where my grandmother, Elizabeth Louisa Wall nee Pope was buried/cremated. She died from septicaemia in Western Hospital, Seagrave Rd in 1921. I have contacted LBHF cemeteries’ dept and they have no trace of her in any of their 4 cemeteries. They also have no records of her husband, my grandfather Albert Ballard Wall, who sadly committed suicide a little while after. Can anyone help please?
Also, I have heard that the Wall family may have had a pawnbrokers shop in Greyhound Rd?
Thanks for your time.
Perhaps your relative may have been buried in Brompton Cemetery in RBKC if they did not actually live in Fulham. Archives has the following inquests records,
Register of inquests held at Fulham Coroners’ Court
Date: Sep 1899 – Jan 1916 so it is possible that a record from the 1920s could still be with the local coroners court in Bagleys Lane.
Thanks for your help.Have checked and they’re not in Brompton Cemetery. They were both born in and lived in Fulham, but I guess not everyone has burial records. I just wondered if anyone had knowledge of Western hospital’s procedures regarding deaths.
Sadly my grandfather’s suicide was in Barking and Essex Coroner’s Court have been rather unhelpful.
Thanks again.
Hello David
Sorry to hear this sad story
1919 MARRIAGE
Name: Albert Ballard Wall
Marriage Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1884
Marriage Date: 27 Apr 1919
Marriage Place: St Albans, Fulham, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: William Albert Wall, bricklayer
Spouse: Elizabeth Louisa Pope
Name: Elizabeth Louisa Pope
Marriage Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1896
Marriage Date: 27 Apr 1919
Marriage Place: St Albans, Fulham, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: George Pope, carman
Spouse: Albert Ballard Wall, soldier
1921 DEATH
Western Hospital
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hospital,_Fulham
Western Hospital
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/MAB-WFever/
Lost Hospitals Of London
https://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/western.html
Died of septicaemia Western Hospital, Seagrave Road
Western Hospital
https://www.mediastorehouse.com/mary-evans-prints-online/western-hospital-seagrave-road-fulham-7246729.html
Name: Elizabeth Louisa Wall
Death Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1896
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
Registration district: Fulham
1921 BURIAL/CREMATION
Born and lived in Fulham
1923 MARRIAGE
Name: Albert Ballard Wall, widower
Marriage Age: 39
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1884
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1923
Marriage Place: Hammersmith, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: William Albert Wall
Spouse: Ellen Elizabeth Walker
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Walker
Marriage Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1896
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1923
Marriage Place: Hammersmith, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: Henry Walker, railway driver
Spouse: Albert Ballard Wall, railway servant
Railway Servant
http://www.unionancestors.co.uk/amalgamated-society-of-railway-servants/
1925 DEATH
Committed suicide in Barking
Not able to find reported story on British Newspaper Archives
Name: Albert B Wall
Death Age: 41
Birth Date: abt 1884
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Registration district: Romford
Inferred County: Essex
1925 BURIAL/CREMATION
Born and lived in Fulham
Ask for help
https://www.lbbd.gov.uk/local-archive-and-history-information
http://www.barkinghistory.co.uk/
https://www.eolfhs.org.uk/
1934 MARRIAGE
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Wall
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun 1934
Registration district: Hammersmith
Spouse: William Pullen
Have replied to this before, not showing up like other posts, is there a problem with software
1925 Nottingham Journal – Friday 11 September
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001898/19250911/178/0007
KILLED ON THE LINE DRIVER PULLS UP BUT TOO LATE
The determined but unsuccessful efforts which a driver made to stop his train on the Fenchurch-to Southend railway, in order to avoid running into the man, was told at Barking yesterday, when inquest was held on Albert Ballard Wall, Commer-Road, Fulham, employed on the underground railway. The driver of the train, Alfred Perry (Shoeburyness) when about 100 yards away, saw the man walking in front the train which was travelling about 40 miles per hour. He opened the whistle and pulled up in about train’s length, deceased was struck by the buffer and killed on the spot. It was surmised that owing to the man’s mental condition he walked in front of the train and verdict of “found dead” was returned.
1925 Nottingham Journal – Friday 11 September
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001898/19250911/178/0007
KILLED ON THE LINE. DRIVER PULLS UP BUT TOO LATE. The determined but unsuccessful efforts which a driver made to stop his train on the Fenchurch-to Southend railway, in order to avoid running into the man, was told at Barking yesterday, when inquest was held on Albert Ballard Wall, Commer-Road, Fulham, employed on the underground railway. The driver of the train, Alfred Perry (Shoeburyness) when about 100 yards away, saw the man walking in front the train which was travelling about 40 miles per hour. He opened the whistle and pulled up in about train’s length, deceased was struck by the buffer and killed on the spot. It was surmised that owing to the man’s mental condition he walked in front of the train and verdict of “found dead” was returned.
Lorraine,
Apologies, but I have only just seen your replies and just wanted to thank you ever so much for all your help.
The last reply re the Nottingham Journal was especially helpful. I am awaiting replies from a few of your suggested links.
Thanks and kindest regards.
Hello,
My Father was born in 1927 & lived on Quarrendon St from about 1931 to some time before 1939. I am trying to establish where he would have gone to school as these would have been his primary school years. What would have been the closest school to this street during this period? Or is there somewhere you could direct me where there may be records I could look into? I believe it may have been a Catholic School he attended.
Kind Regards,
NR
The nearest school to Quarrendon would have been Peterborough Primary school, but this is not specifically a Roman catholic school this was in Clancarty Road with an entrance in Studdridge Street the other catholic schools are (1) along the New Kings Road, the Church of the Holy cross ,Ashington Road and (2) the other side of the Wandsworth Bridge Road the Church of our Lady of the Perpetual succour , Stephendale Road . the new Kings Road one is the most likely due to the differences in housing at that time
Hi there, I’m a reporter with the BBC Local Democracy Reporting Service based at My London (formerly Get West London) and I’m looking for experts on the history of the beautiful Hammersmith Bridge to talk to for a feature. I’m particularly interested in the IRA suitcase bombing and anyone who might have known or been related to Maurice Childs, the man whose quick-thinking saved the bridge. You can email me on talia dot shadwell at reachplc.com
Do you know when Rayleigh Road, W14 ceased to exist? I have found records that it was still in existence in 1938 so it could be war damage? Would you also know what is in its place now? And where would I look to find photos of it in the 1930s? Any help greatly appreciated.
It’s now called Lakeside Road. I think it changed in the mid to late 40s. Before it was called Rayleigh Road it was called Wharton Road.
Both set of my grandparents and all their families lived in the road for decades.
Thank you. My family came from there too. They were GREEN, GILLARD, BURGESS & PRICE. They ere on the 1927, 1930 and 1938 censuses. Various houses but Nos 65, 23, 59 and 88. Do you know if the houses in Lakeside Road are the same or have they been rebuilt.? Thanks again.
The houses are still the same. I went there last year. They are four or five storey town houses. Doesn’t look like there was any bomb damage in that road.
My family lived at various houses too; 95, 96, 100 and others from 1911 through late 1940s. Names are RICHARDSON, BONNER, CLARKE, PREECE. No doubt our families knew each, I’ll bet. Were any of the males in your families paper hangers/ decorators?
How interesting. The males in our family were mainly labourers, corner cutters, coal porter, machine reeler. The women were laundresses. I don’t live in that area, but I’ll have to venture over to take a photo and imagine what it used to be like. Thanks again.
You’re very welcome. I only asked about the occupations as my great grandfather was a paper hanger and used to hire lots of local men. I had noticed that a fair few of the males in and around Rayleigh Road were paper hangers so just wondered if yours were. Yes, you should go. It’s good to see where your ancestors came from; brings it to life a bit more.
If you come to the area do visit the LBHF archive in Hammersmith Library on a Monday or Tuesday as there are Photo collections, census and electoral registers.
Good luck
This Column has information about Rayleigh road if you scroll down to 14th Feb 2017
Hi,
I’ve also been researching Raleigh Road in Hammersmith.My great, great aunt lived at number 23 in 1907. It seems to have changed names a few times. It was changed from Wharton Road and re-named Rayleigh Road on the 13th of March 1906. It later became Lakeside Road and,I believe, it still exists according to google maps.
Hope this helps! 🙂
Thank you.
Catty,I’ve just seen that you also had ancestors who lived at number 23 Raleigh Road! When did they live there? My aunt was called Rebecca Bustard and this is her address on her wedding certificate in Oct 1907. She married an Austrian man, a hairdresser, named Jean Muller. He’s also listed as living there. I know it’s a long shot but would you happen to know anything about their time there? They left for Paris not long after that. She had previously been an acrobatic dancer in Paris. It looks like quite an affluent area so I presume she was in service?
Kind Regards,
Lynne. 🙂
P.S….. Rebecca was also known as Rissie. That’s the name on her wedding certificate.
I don’t think it was an affluent area at the time. It seems to me that many families occupied each of those houses. I assume a floor each.
Today the street is a mixture of slightly tatty rented houses still split into flats with others entire houses with all four of five floors (incl cellar and attic) and looking quite smart. A nice quiet road.
I definitely agree that wasn’t an afluent area, just looking through Census records for my ancestors who also lived close by, there seem to be several families in the one house and sometimes even a lodger.
I also don’t think it was an affluent area my, grandmother lived at 100 Rayleigh road for about15 years and had as far as I can find out so far had 7 children. She was poor, well certainly by the time I came along.
Kay, both my grandmother and great grandmother lived at 100 Rayleigh Road for years!
I have been researching my fathers family for a few years now but am having difficullty getting beyond his birth. I dont know if we are related but my Grandother lived at 100 Rayleigh road in 1920 the year my dad was born. Her name was Ellen Smith but she was called Nellie. Three more children were born at that address. My dad never talked about his childhood but before he died he told me that he had been put into care. I know the rest of the family then moved to surbiton in Surrey. Older children remained in Shepherds bush because I can remember visiting an aunt and uncle in Shepherds bush as a child.
Probably not related, I think. My family were at 42, 70, 72 and 95 in 1920. Have you checked out the other smith families in the street? I know it’s a common surname but families often stuck close by so maybe researching them a little might yield some clues?
Hello. My relatives had the surname GREEN. I’ve found records of them living at number 23 in 1927 and 1930. But I’m only at the beginning of my research. As others have said, it was not an affluent area at that time & the records show lots of individuals / families living at one address . I find it fascinating. But unfortunately I don’t know anything about your ancestors. Are you looking on ancestry.co.uk? That is my source of information. There is also something called the London Metropolitan Archives which has various records. Their enquiry team are very helpful. The details are: 02073323820 or ask.lma@cityoflondon.gov.uk
Good luck with your search.
Hi, research tells me that my GGrandmother Ellen Callan and possibly her daughter Ellen Clarn worked in the Fulham Laundry circa 1880’s but I have been told there were a couple of laundries, they lived in Prothero Rd Fulham, just off Rylston Rd. Before that they were in Stanley Cottages, the current site of Charing Cross Hospital. Does anybody know which laundry it was likely to be and where can I find any records of the Laundry please.
Hi, I recently acquired a photo and some postcards depicting members of the Hammersmith Salvation Army, date is probably 1910/20. Does anyone know the location of the Hammersmith Citadel as it is pictured and I would be interested to know if it is still standing. The photo depicts members along with girl guides, were the two organisations linked locally? Kind regards Paul Sutton-King
The nearest school to Quarrendon would have been Peterborough Primary school, but this is not specifically a Roman catholic school this was in Clancarty Road with an entrance in Studdridge Street the other catholic schools are (1) along the New Kings Road, the Church of the Holy cross ,Ashington Road and (2) the other side of the Wandsworth Bridge Road the Church of our Lady of the Perpetual succour , Stephendale Road . the new Kings Road one is the most likely due to the differences in housing at that time
The Salvation Army
Contact details
21-23 Dalling Road
Hammersmith
London
W6 0JD
Tel: 020 8748 9332
Hi Richard, I am trying to set-up a Facebook Group/ Page “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”, with a view to pulling together any photographs and information on the market, including some of our own family photographs….a work in progress that might hopefully encourage others to participate. Regards, Cary (e-mail: kelmatservices@btopenworld.com)
I’m looking for the address of the old Wallpaper Works on Bagleys Lane. My great grandfather was working there in 1930.
Also, do you have any records of a football team called Hever United, in the Fulham area in the early 20th century?
Thanks,
Chris
Hello Chris
V&A HISTORY OF WALLPAPER
https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/a-brief-history-of-wallpaper
Could ask for details
I am researching my family tree on Ancestry.com but am having difficulty finding birth information on my great great grandmother known to us as Edith Ivy Benford. From looking at census I believe that she was born around 1888 in Fulham. There is rumour that there was secrets of her childhood. I don’t have any information on her parents and want to find out more to support me to continue building my family tree.
Hello Louise
I think this is your grandmother, sorry it is a sad news.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815222.msg6764499#msg6764499
1885 BIRTH
Name: Edith Harriet Benford
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Marylebone
1885 BAPTISM
Name: Edith Harriet Benford
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Aug 1885
Baptism Place: St Marylebone, Westminster, England
Father: George Benford
Mother: Elizabeth Benford
1891 CENSUS
Name: Edith Benford
Age: 5
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1886
Father: George Benford
Mother: Elizabeth Benford
Birth Place: Marylebone, London, England
Civil Parish: Paddington
Household Members:
George A J Benford 11
Willie Benford 9
Ethel Benford 3
Maude Benford 9/12
Mary born later
1892 POOR LAW HOSPITAL
Mental to be examined, could be postnatal depression, could be any mental health condition
Name: Elizabeth Benford
Admission Age: 31
Record Type: Admission
Birth Date: abt 1861
Admission Date: 27 Jun 1892
Admission Place: Kensington and Chelsea, Chelsea, London, England
Name: Elizabeth Benford
Admission Age: 31
Discharge Age: 31
Record Type: Admission and Discharge
Birth Date: abt 1861
Admission Date: 8 Jul 1892
Admission Place: Kensington and Chelsea, London, London, England
Admission Poor Law Union: Chelsea
Discharge Date: 12 Sep 1892
Discharge Place: Kensington and Chelsea, London, London, England
Discharge Poor Law Union: Chelsea
1894 DEATH
Name: George Benford
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Marylebone
1894 POOR LAW SCHOOL DISTRICT REGISTERS
Name: Edith Benford
Admission Age: 9
Discharge Age: 9
Record Type: Register of Children 1885-1896
Birth Date: 1885
Admission Date: 28 Aug 1894
Admission Place: London, England
Discharge Date: 16 Nov 1894
School: Exmouth Training Ship and RC Schools
School District: Kensington and Chelsea
Mother: Elizabeth Benford
History On The River Thames/Training Ships Moored Off Grays Town
https://www.thurrock.gov.uk/history-on-river-thames/training-ships-moored-off-grays-town
There were two training ships named Exmouth: No 1 from 1876 to 1905 and No. 2 from 1905 to 1939. The first ship was loaned to The Metropolitan Asylums Board by the Admiralty and had been named after Viscount Exmouth, Admiral Edward Pellew.
Name: Edith Benford
Record Type: Discharge to St Joseph’s School
Discharge Date: 28 Aug 1894
Discharge Place: Kensington and Chelsea, Chelsea, London, England
1894 POOR LAW SCHOOL DISTRICT REGISTERS
Name: Edith Benford, Roman Catholic
Admission Age: 9
Record Type: Admission passed from St Marylebone
Birth Date: 1885
Admission Date: 16 Nov 1894 from St Joseph’s School
Admission Place: Kensington and Chelsea, Chelsea, London, England
Name: Edith Benford
Record Type: Discharge
Discharge Date: 17 Nov 1894
Discharge Place: Kensington and Chelsea, Chelsea, London, England
1895 POOR LAW SCHOOL DISTRICT REGISTERS
Siblings
George
William
Edith
Ethel
Mary
Maud
All go in and out of the workhouse
1895 POOR LAW SCHOOL DISTRICT REGISTERS
Name: Edith Benford
Admission Age: 10
Record Type: Register of Children 1885-1896
Birth Date: 1885
Admission Date: 28 Aug 1895
Admission Place: London, England
School: Exmouth Training Ship and RC Schools
School District: Kensington and Chelsea
Name: Edith Bendford
Admission Age: 10
Discharge Age: 12
Record Type: Register of Children 1896-1905
Birth Date: 1885
Admission Date: 28 Aug 1895
Admission Place: London, England
Discharge Date: 29 Apr 1897
School: Exmouth Training Ship and RC Schools
School District: Kensington and Chelsea
Mother: Elizabeth Bendford
1897 POOR LAW HOSPITAL
Name: Elizabeth Benford
Admission Age: 36
Record Type: Admission, think says mental ???
Birth Date: abt 1861
Admission Date: 9 Apr 1897
Admission Place: Westminster, London, London, England
Name: Elizabeth Benford
Discharge Age: 36
Record Type: Discharge
Birth Date: abt 1861
Discharge or Death Date: 12 Jun 1897
Discharge or Death Place: Westminster, London, London, England
Discharge or Death Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
1897 POOR LAW SCHOOL DISTRICT REGISTERS
Name: Edith Benford
Admission Age: 11
Record Type: Admission from Walthamstow School
Birth Date: 1886
Admission Date: 29 Apr 1897
Admission Place: Kensington and Chelsea, Chelsea, London, England
1897 POOR LAW SCHOOL DISTRICT REGISTERS
Name: Edith Benford
Admission Age: 12
Discharge Age: 12
Record Type: Admission and Discharge, admitted from workhouse
Birth Date: abt 1885
Admission Date: 17 Sep 1897
Admission Place: Westminster, London, Middlesex, England
Admission Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
Discharge Date: 18 Sep 1897
Discharge Place: Westminster, London, Middlesex, England
Discharge Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
School: Roman Catholic Schools
School District: Westminster
1901 CENSUS
Unable to find Edith
Please help
1901 CENSUS
Name: Elizabeth Benford [Elizabeth Berry]
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Daughter
Mother: Harriett Berry
Birth Place: Marylebone
Civil Parish: Kensington
Household Members:
Harriett Berry 78
Elizabeth Benford 39
Has the mother abandoned her children or just can’t afford to keep them or has mental health condition and unable to cope
1901 CENSUS
Name: Ethel Benford
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Pauper
Birth Place: Na
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch West Kensington Park and St Matthew
Registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: St Josephs Schools
Maud Benford
Mary Benford
Other pauper girls
1911 CENSUS
Name: Edith Ivy Benford
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Cook Domestic (Cook)
Birth Place: FULHAM, LONDON, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Street address: 34 Gledstanes Road, West Kensington W
Marital status: Single
Household Members:
Annie E Bowler 54
Lily Bowler 50
Charles Harold Bowler 42
Sarah Hunt 65
Nellie Ball 28
1911 CENSUS
Name: Elizabeth Benford
Age in 1911: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Head
Civil Parish: Kensington
Street address: 57 St Ervans Road, North Kensington, W
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: LAUNDRESS
Sub-registration district: Kensington North
1912 MARRIAGE
Name: Edith I Benford
Spouse Surname: Andrews
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Brentford
Records on Page: Name
William T Andrews
1922 DEATH
Name: Elizabeth Benford
Death Age: 59
Birth Date: abt 1863
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun 1922
Registration district: Brentford
1925 BURIAL
Name: Elizabeth Benford
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1925
Burial or Cremation Date: 12 1925
Burial or Cremation Place: Kensington and Chelsea, London, England
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Name: Edith I Andrews
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1888
Residence Year: 1939
Residence Place: Hammersmith, London, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Inferred Spouse: William T Andrews
Household Members:
Rachel J Smith
1943 DEATH
Name: Edith I Andrews
Death Age: 55
Birth Date: abt 1888
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec 1943
Registration district: Hammersmith
Hello Louise
1885 Birth
Your grandmother is Edith Harriet Benford born 1885, Marylebone, mother’s maiden name Berry
People often didn’t know their real birth date, birth location
People often changed their names out of choice or to forget tragic memories
1891 Census
Father George, mother Elizabeth
Siblings William, George, Ethel, Maud
Mary born later
1892 Poor Law Hospital
Mother Elizabeth taken into be examined for a mental condition
This is the family secret
1894 Death
Father George dies
1894 to 1901 Poor Laws
Edith and siblings taken into care
This is the other family secret
1897 Poor Law Hospital
Mother Elizabeth taken into hospital again for mental condition
1901 Census
Unable to find Edith
Mother Elizabeth living with her mother Harriet Berry
Ethel, Maud and Mary in care
1911 Census
Edith working as a cook
Mother Elizabeth working as a laundress
1912 Marriage
Edith and William Andrews marry in Brentford
1922 Death
Mother Elizabeth dies in Brentford, indicating the family were reunited
1925 Burial
Mother Elizabeth is buried in Kensington
1939 National Register
Edith and William living in Hammersmith
with married daughter Rachel and blanked out member
1943 Death
Edith dies in Hammersmith
Does anybody remember Jean’s cafe in Estcourt road in the late 1950s…..?
If so I would love to hear from you
It was run by by mother and father
OLD HAMMERSMITH MARKET (BRADMORE LANE)
I have previously had some amazing responses to my comments on this site regarding the old market and my family (the Dear family). I have become conscious that, as the generations that directly worked within the market have passed, it has seemingly become a largely forgotten part of everyday Hammersmith life. I have also been surprised at how few photographs appear to exist of the Bradmore Lane market.
As a consequence, I have decided to establish a Facebook group page to remember and celebrate the market and a part of Hammersmith history that spanned nearly 70 years.The group page is titled “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered” and includes photographs that I have found (including my own family ones).
If interested, or able to add to the group, please feel free to visit.
Many Thanks,
Cary Sumpter
Re:the Rotunda, Shepherds Bush. I’m trying to find out more about the radical preacher Revd Robert Taylor and my great great grandfather’s first wife Georgiana Richards (married name Dorey). She sued Robert Taylor for breach of promise and was mentioned in a home office report in 1834 as a coffee shop proprietor at the Rotunda.
In 1844 she was sent to Newgate Prison for her part in the infamous Wills Forgery Scandal (after she had married my g.g grandfather Josiah Dorey).
I’ve got more ‘bits and pieces’ of info about them if anyone is interested.
This is another example of where searching the British online Newspaper archive will pay dividends, its quite cheap and very useful. The Law case should also be able to tracked down fairly easily. One of the snippets from the newspaper reads
“The Rev. R. Taylor was on Thursday amerced in damage* 2501., the English Court of Exchequer, for breach of promise of marriage given Miss Georgiana Richards, the housekeeper at the Rotunda where Taylor used to lecture. It is stated that Taylor has left the country.”
NB There was a Rotunda at Blackfriars that was known for Radicals in the 1830’s
My father’s surname was Coleshill from Fulham. My Ancestry DNA traces my DNA to the same area.
Do any Coleshill’s remaining in the area?
Sincerely,
Tracy Larocque
Coleshill is a very old name, and actually means river hill. It may have been a stream that fed Fulham moat on its way to the Thames. If you check 192.com which I believe is still based in Fulham they have one of the most comprehensive databases for finding people I searched for Coleshill and Fulham and they indicate that there are five persons With this name in Fulham possibly all one family .there are also some other 30 or so with that name also listed
Hi Tracy Iam related to the Coleshill family my Nan on my father side was one .A huge family yes still think a couple of my distant cousins still live in Fulham Know I found them on Face book and there is a huge family tree on Ancestry.Com of the Coleshill family
Hi all,
Does anyone have access to any Photographs of Oldham/Manchester Road off Silchester road and knowledge of which name it was 1st as i believe it was renamed before it was demolished.
K.pugh999@ntlword.com
Kevin
Manchester road 1871; Mersey Sreeet 1897; Oldham Road 1939;
I am looking for information about the Harwath Mausoleum in the churchyard at St Thomas of Canterbury RC Church in Rylston Road, Fulham. Does anyone have any clues about who the Harwath family were? It is a grand neo classical building, probably Edwardian, they must have been quite well established locally.
I am part of a group researching the names on the War Memorial in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire.
One of these was William Wright who gave his birthplace as Hammersmith.
Date of Birth: – Not known. He was reported to be 21 when he was killed, meaning that he was born about 1897.
Address:- His last known address, which led to his being listed on the Dewsbury Cenotaph, was Ivy Cottage, Briestfield, where he is reported to have been a boarder with Henry Watson, a coal miner, and his wife.
Parents and Siblings: – Nothing is known about his family background; he is said to have been born in Hammersmith, at that time in Middlesex, now part of London, but it has not been possible to identify him among the many boys called William Wright. The Army apparently had no knowledge of anyone to whom effects and gratuity could be paid and medals issued.
Marital Status: – Single
Occupation: – He was employed, according to the Dewsbury Reporter, by Messrs Jaggar’s Grange Ash Colliery, Grange Moor.
Arm of Service: – Army – Rank – Private – Service Numbers 27921 and 22662. The second number is from the King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry, where he may have seen brief service.
Regiment: – At the time of his death William Wright was serving with the 11th Battalion of the Lancashire Fusiliers.
The 1901 census shows a family living at 41 Devonshire Road Chiswick with a son William whose age matches the above.
We have a photograph of him if that would assist.
Any help gratefully received
I am trying to find my father after no contact for 33 years! All I know is that his name is John Arthur Cocks. He is roughly around 55-65 years old and lived in Putney,Wandsworth and married my mum Louise Belinda Blanchard in the year 1976-1978? I was born in Putney and my date of birth is 14/12/1978 and I have a twin! I hope this helps and I look forward to hearing from you.
Putney and Wandsworth our outside our area but someone reading these pages may come up with something relevant. From personal experience I can tell you it will take some hard work and time to track down a person within the 100 year rule. The first step is to get hold of some documents such as you and your sister’s birth certificates and your Mum’s wedding certificate. The latter will give you more info about your father, there will also be witnesses who may still be alive and have knowledge of where your Dad is. Obviously original documents are the easiest ie that your Mum may have or have had. Free BMD here allows you to search for them online you can then request copies for a fee. The other approach is to use an online search company such as 192.com. They will charge you a fee but you could end up with a number of addresses worth investigating and you may get info such as job type which again could be useful. If you search J Cocks in London entry 22 looks interesting so may be worth paying.
Good luck
Hi,
I thought your readers might like to know about Gresham College’s 500th anniversary of our founder’s birth celebrations in 2019: we are holding a Tudor Festival series of free lectures, including one by the historian John Guy, who is publishing a new biography of Sir Thomas Gresham this year.
Tudor Festival: Sir Thomas Gresham and His World
Join us for a series of special events in 2019 celebrating the 500th anniversary of the birth of Sir Thomas Gresham. Discover the story of the College’s founder and benefactor, a merchant, financier and adventurer. In an age of violence, rivalries and persecutions, Sir Thomas Gresham was inspired by the new learning in the adventurous and magnificent Tudor Age to promote education that was free and open to all. His legacy has continued for over 400 years, as our programme of lectures continues to flourish – here in London and across the world.
https://www.gresham.ac.uk/series/gresham-500-celebrations/
Hello,
Can anyone please aid me in researching the life of Horace Edward Edalji?
I have picked up on the 1901 Census that he was living in Fulham. I know this is vague, but can anyone offer more details?
Thank you.
Best wishes,
Alan F. Jones
ALAN go on to ancestry see your man in 1891 census look at all the clues on the right
he changed his name to magee his wife name ?
and died in 11 june 1953 in ireland all on ancestry under hints probate as well
let me know how it goes vic hill
MAGEE
Hello Vic,
Thank you for the info. I have all of that plus more as he led a roaming life. What I am attempting to do is to try and add more specific details to his life in the locations where he lived. My interest in this man stems from the fact he was, Google: George Ernest Thompson Edalji’s brother and was ostracized by his family. A very complex story.
After all of that I am interested in any snippets of info about the man.
Best wishes,
Alan
thanks for reply can not any more than what you found out
vic
My great great grandfather William Hart was born in Essex but lived all his married life in the Hammersmith area. From the census returns
1871 26 Waterloo Place
1881 2, Alfred terrace, Uxbridge Road
1891 Richmond Road
1901 46 Pennard Road
1911 ”
He died at Pennard Road in 1911. He was a florist, on his death certificate it said Master Florist. I remember my mother saying he had a nursery. I would love to know where this could have been, and also to find out where he is buried.
Thank you
Hello Alison
1911 BURIAL
Name: William Hart
Age: 68, born 1843. died 1911
Buried: 29 Apr 1911
Cemetery: Acton Cemetery, Ealing, Grave R35/d, Interment 7713
NURSERY
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/
Usually use Charles Booth Survey for social history of area but could look for nursery
Otherwise ask local archives, he’ll be listed as a florist but finding out where his nursery was might be more difficult
My name is Christine ELKINS who is this daughter of James ELKINS who is the son of Ruth Antone who is a daughter of Indian Antone who is the son of James Wyse
Hello Christine
Your family appears to be American
Do you have Fulham & Hammersmith connections?
People travelled greatly between our two great nations.
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/114905101/person/370135166105/story
Hi, my Great Grandmother Ellen Callan from Prothero Road was said to have worked in the Fulham Laundry, where would that have been please?
I I’m trying to find out about a murder in the 60s on benbow road. Is there anybody out there to tell me more information
Hello Pamela
Percy killed his wife Patricia in 1968
Please can you help find Percy’s first wife Hilda in 1939 national register, if possible how Hilda
died, if possible how Percy died
Thank you for your help
1912 MARRIAGE
Matilda Ellen Worby marries Arthur A Curtis in Tynemouth, Northumberland
There are many children born Curtis/Worby
1920 BIRTH
Hilda Bessie Fodder born Jan-Feb-Mar Shoreditch, mother’s maiden name Porter
1932 BIRTH
Percy Mark Curtis born in Tynemouth, Northumberland, mother’s maiden name Worby
1939 BIRTH
Patricia Dawn Mills born Hampstead, mother’s maiden name Mills, so possibly illegitimate
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Percy Mark Curtis living with mother Matilda Ellen Curtis in Fulham and younger children
Mother Matilda born 1894, also known as Matilda Nunn, Matilda Stanley later
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Arthur Curtis, born 1891, living in Yorkshire
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Hilda Bessie Fodder
Please help
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
National register taken in September, Patricia Dawn Mills born in October
Where is Patricia’s mother, unable to find only know last name
1952 MARRIAGE
Percy Mark Curtis marries Hilda Bessie Fodder in Fulham
1954 DEATH
Arthur A Curtis born 1891, dies Northumberland
1959 DEATH
Hilda Bessie Curtis dies in Wandsworth
How did she die?
1960 MARRIAGE
Percy Mark Curtis marries Patricia Dawn Mills in Hammersmith
1966 MARRIAGE
Matilda Ellen Stanley (changed name or married again?) marries Henry Nunn in Fulham
1968 DEATH
Patricia Dawn Curtis killed by husband Percy Mark Curtis
1968 Kensington Post – Friday 23 August
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0002501/19680823/020/0003Pr
Percy Mark Curtis, 36, unemployed killed his wife Patricia Dawn Curtis at their home in Benbow Road, Fulham
1969 DEATH
Matilda Ellen Nunn dies January, Fulham
1969 DEATH
Percy Mark Curtis dies in April, Paddington
How did he die?
Dear F&H historical society,
I work at Charing Cross Hospital and am moving to the area with my wife. We were wondering if it was possible to find out when the area damaged by the WWII bomb on Colehill Lane was rebuilt? The houses on the south side of Colehill Lane look like they are post-war construction but it is unclear exactly when they were built.
Many thanks, kind regards,
Hugo Farne
Some of the small sites were rebuilt in the early 50’s but the larger ones were not completed until the late 60s after which the government reduced funding. It can take a while to find the relevant approvals in council minutes. In the local archives at Hammersmith Library there is a photo file and sometimes a press cutting file for most streets that may give more information. Also checking the online catalogue for Colehill Lane shows there are some other documents too. So it may be worth a visit to the Archives on a Monday or Tuesday to check this out.
Hopefully someone reading this may have direct information.
Good luck
High Explosive Bomb :
Source: Aggregate Night Time Bomb Census 7th October 1940 to 6 June 1941
Fell between Oct. 7, 1940 and June 6, 1941
Present-day address
Colehill Lane, Shepherd’s Bush, London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, SW6 6EE, London
Further details
56 18 NW – comment:
catoluge examples as referred to above
H901.939
Chronological list of bomb damage inflicted during the Second World War on the Metropolitan…
Book/Publication
H901.939 HAM
A Collection of photocopies of every bomb damage photograph within the collection
Book/Publication
Does anyone have any information on Fulham training college? My grandmother Mildred Olive Holmes was a student there around 1908.
From what I’ve been told my greatgrandparents did not approve of her attending but she did it anyway. I suppose it wasn’t considered an appropriate course for a young lady.
Fulham Training college was in Finlay Street. There should be snippets of information in the local papers.try searching the British newspaper library online files.
Hello Barbara
ORGANISATION OF EDUCATION IN LONDON
The Training Of Teachers
Fulham Day Training College
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-sQKAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=fulham+day+training+college+finlay+street&source=bl&ots=Zrprib4UpO&sig=ACfU3U2dl4UJLXE4g-4DisBffRA9dlcY1Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiw4tCKo53jAhUBMuwKHTQFBrsQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=fulham%20day%20training%20college%20finlay%20street&f=false
LONDON METROPOLITAN ARCHIVES
Fulham Day Training College
1908 to 1913 Minutes
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N13812616
Please could someone offer any information regarding an unexploded bomb that fell on – Lewis trust dwellings, vanston place- during ww2. A photo would be very much appreciated, my father lived in the building at the time and my son would like to show his teacher for a class project.
Thanks in advance.
Could be one of two sites. Check with Hammersmith archives,and the online catalogue.
High Explosive Bomb :
Source: Aggregate Night Time Bomb Census 7th October 1940 to 6 June 1941
Fell between Oct. 7, 1940 and June 6, 1941
Present-day address
Vanston Place, London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, SW6 5UA, London
Further details
56 18 NW –
High Explosive Bomb :
Source: Aggregate Night Time Bomb Census 7th October 1940 to 6 June 1941
Fell between Oct. 7, 1940 and June 6, 1941
Present-day address
Farm Lane, London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, SW6 1QP, London
Further details
56 18 NW – comment:
I see you’ve mentioned peggy fro m maurice street. She was my mums cousin.. She moved and I lost her address after the death of my mum.. If anyone can give me that it would be lovely to catch up with Karen.i can leave a number on which I can be contacted.. It’s
07903546409.
My name is Lisa.. I was phyls daughter from gloucester
Any info would be just lovely
Thanks
I am looking for information on 302 Fulham Palace Road. My grandmother was born there in 1929, and I am trying to find out who lived at that address during this time. Her mother worked at 91 Bishops Road around the same time so any information on this address too would be fantastic. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Check voters list at Hammersmith archives
Hello Cherry
91 Bishops Road lists as Dawes Road for 1928 and 1929 on Ancestry.
CONSTANT LAMBERT LIVED AT 302 FULHAM PALACE ROAD
http://www.notableabodes.com/person-abode-details/8421/constant-lambert-musician_302-fulham-palace-road-fulham-london
1929 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
300-302 FULHAM PALACE ROAD
Hammersmith & Fulham
Fulham East & West
Charles Raymond Haynes
Evelyn Perham
Mark Noble Perham
1929 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
300-302 FULHAM PALACE ROAD
Hammersmith & Fulham
Fulham East & West
Edith Burnett
Charles Raymond Haynes
Charles William Raymond Haynes
Nora Hodgson
Rose Mansfield
Evelyn Perham
Mark Noble Perham
Aroon Gwendoline Persee
Genevieve Ward
Hi,
My father, James Perkin, lived in Pilmico at the time of the Second World War, his family was from Essex. Would it be possible to find out what regiment he would have enlisted in. I do have have his numbered dog tags but as yet I haven’t been able to find him in British military records.
Regards, Peter Perkin.
There are about 155 records for J Perkins. In forces-war-records.co.uk. It may be worth getting a monthly subscription at £9 and checking them the names
There are 13 for Perkin. Were there Any other forenames. You can Get brief details of a regiment without having to pay if you can find the correct group of names on this website and it does list service nuumbers
Hello Peter
You can apply for your father’s service records here:
National Archives
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/second-world-war/
Veterans UK
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records
Hello, I am trying to find a newspaper article from the fulham and hammersmith chronicle dated between 1954 and 1960 of a story about a missing boy who was then found and he had been hiding at his friends house in a cupboard, there is a photograph of the boy and his 2 friends (twins). I have searched online for a while but have had no luck as yet
You could check to see whether Hammersmith archives have any newspaper index for the period, but it may well be a question of going through a hard copy or microfilm
I was drawn to this website by ” The changing face of Hammersmith and Fulham by Jane Kimber and Francis Serjeant. Are you able to provide me a copy of the article and any info about Jane Kimber and any other Kimbers living in those areas – names and addresses etc as I believe my great uncle William settled at Hammersmith. He was born around 1870 to Jeremiah Charles and Jane nee Pritchard. Thx
Jane Kimber was archivist for the libraries department, but don’t believe she lived in Hammersmith and Fulham . I did however myself have a relative who married a William M Kimber, who had property in Cadogan st and Shorrolds road Fulham, but no Hammersmith connections.
Your William may have been the son of my William who was William Joseph Kimber born in 1874 at Roxby Lincolnshire. His older brother George settled at Islington, London. I am still looking for info but was advised he had a son who he called William too.
I know you lot are the font of all knowledge in most things Fulhamish!
My father in law grew up in and around Bagleys Lane, and he’s been trying to remember the name of the plumber’s merchant or plumbing firm that he worked for, would have been around 1950-1952. He can remember that it was based in Dawes Road, but he’s really struggling to recall what they were called. Help me, o wise ones !
There’s a firm in Dawes Road now called Fulham Heating,, however, according to their website, they were established in 1974. They do pride themselves on friendly customer service and also having very good stocks though apparently!
Still checking for you,but there was also a large builders merchants at 101,103,107,109 Dawes road in 1939/40 called Witheridge and sons.
My name is Caner. Me and my team are film students from the University of the Arts London and we are tasked with a project to make a short documentary film based in the Hammersmith area. We are interested in making a film based on the Furnivall Sculling Club and we are hoping we can discuss this short film further with someone who works with the club or heavily associated.
We would appreciate the response and look forward to hearing back.
Regards,
Caner
Trying to find information on the life of Edward William Butler. He resided in Pennard Road, originally the family where from Essex but he was born Wolverton, Bucks in 1910
Believed to have lived in Shepherds Bush since 1950’s and worked in a local garage.
Any info would be great.
If you check on Ancestry a gentleman with the username Phil_Scott4 has posted Edwards full life story and family tree.
Hi there,
Do you have access to copies of the Fulham Chronicle from the 1950s? My grandad played for Fulham youth football team and was featured in the paper in 1954 (he thinks). There was a picture of him heading the ball. The game may have been against Chelsea youth. His name is Jimmy Jones. He is 80 next month so I’d love to be able to track that picture down if that would be possible?
I look forward to your response and appreciate your help.
Andy
Hammersmith archives andLocal history dept has the Fulham Chronicle.the British Newspaper library which is online also has the back files of course. It’s a sad reflection on the local newspapers that prided themselves on news, that when a lot of them became group newspapers, With a title page relevant to the area, but a lot of generic pages , that the companies centralised, got rid of the local offices and threw out back files.
FC is only on line to 1945. So it’s hardcopy or microfilm.
Andy,
Papers are stored at British library Kings Cross may be on film and may be to order over 2 days .
If you get stuck I will be going there this month and can check it out
But helps to be certain of year and also month if possible
Brian
I was searching the Brighton newspars for an item on the Newspaper library web site ,when I discovered something I thought I would pass on. There was a list of the local hotels and guest houses together with their guests or residents names. So much for security issues .so it would appear that one might be able to see where ones relatives holidayed and their wealth by the type of accommodation they rented and for how long!!
Hi,
I am a retail designer involved in some upgrading work to the current Bayley & Sage store at 30-34 New Kings Road. The scheme will involve a rear extensionto knccrease trading area at ground floor level, refurbishment of the existing timber shopfronts and the removal of the existing aluminium shopfront in no32 replacing this with a timber shopfront that is more in keeping with the age of the property.
I understand that these properties fall within the conservation area. Can you please confirm this. Before I submit anything to the council for planning permission I would very much value your views and contribution on the design direction for the frontage and rear extension.
I think your enquiry should be to The Fulham Society. They have a watching and lobbying brief on planning and conservation. info@fulhamsociety.org . Our focus is very much on fostering an interest in history.
Good luck
Check out the term Parsons Green conservation area on Hammersmith council web site, for complete picture. The properties are in the conservation area and it mentions, specifically on the intro page
New Kings Road
Nos. 26 to 38 (even) (added June 2000)
Hello
I am trying to find out the history of The Queen Caroline estate. Does anyone know exactly when it was built? I understand there was a big fire in or around the site in the 1950s and the estate was built to rehouse people whose homes were being demolished on Hammersmith Rd. Is there any further info and maybe who decided to change the name of Queen st to Queen Caroline st.
Thank you
To celebrate its 50th anniversary, London Archaeologist is holding its first ever conference on Saturday 6th October – a celebration for everyone who has been involved or interested in London’s archaeology over the past five decades.
Held in collaboration with King’s College London Classics Department, the conference will take place at the Franklin-Wilkins building at King’s Waterloo campus, on 6th October from 10am to 6pm, with a party to follow for all attendees.
In presentations taking us from the archaeology of the 1960s to archaeology in the future, a terrific range of speakers will look at developments in archaeology from museums to major sites, from excavations to finds, from industrial to foreshore archaeology, from volunteers to professionals.
We’ll have papers from trailblazers such as Peter Marsden and Harvey Sheldon, through osteoarchaeologist Jelena Bekvalac and finds specialist Michael Marshall, to Jane Sidell of Historic England and Roy Stephenson of Museum of London, and many more.
To round off the day, five directors of leading contracting units will form a panel to consider how archaeology will fare in the next 50 years, and we’ll finish with that party to celebrate all we’ve experienced over 50 years.
BOOKING WILL CLOSE BY 4TH OCTOBER AT THE LATEST.
To book your tickets, which include the full day conference, morning coffee and a drink at the party, go to the Eventbrite site here:
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/50-years-of-londons-archaeology-tickets-45718893441 .
Note that at time of sending, we also still have a few free tickets
available for students in full time education on Eventbrite.
For more information on the conference and London Archaeologist’s other 50th anniversary activities, see our LA50 page on the LA website:
https://www.londonarchaeologist.org.uk/
Iam trying to find out if anyone one did manage to find a photo thought to be of the first ever Fulham St Andrews football team know there was one a very grainy and someone whose name I have forgot (sorry ) who wrote a blog and who put the photo up Reason I would love a copy is my great great uncle played for them.and was in the photo Frederick Keefe .Many thanks
Hello Karen I’ve found a picture from 1889
Hello Karen I’ve found a picture of the Fulham St Andrews from 1889.
Hi, I believe that my GGrandmother Ellen Clarn worked in the Fulham Laundry and possibly at least one of her daughters, Ellen, born 1881. The family lived at 20 Prothero Road in the latter years and possibly Bear Alley earlier. Ellen the mother had her first child in 1879 so I know that she worked there for many years.
My question is how can I confirm this information please, are there any records that have survived perhaps.
My kind regards,
Pam Hausler
Hello Pam
Good luck with your research, didn’t realise laundries could be so interesting!
FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH FORUMS
Each forum focuses on slightly different areas of family history research, so one of the forums will focus on ‘occupations’ and you could ask questions about working at a laundry. The forums below are excellent, have helped me many times when either hit a ‘brick wall’ or wanted to learn more about a subject.
You need to give as much precise information you have when you ‘post’ your first post onto a thread, to help the researchers as much as possible.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/
https://www.british-genealogy.com/
https://forum.familyhistory.uk.com/
https://www.genealogyforum.co.uk/forum/index.php
FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH FORUM
BRITISH GENEALOGY/OCCUPATIONS
Can post a thread on here and ask about the laundry work
https://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/162-Occupations-general-forum
BRITISH NEWSPAPER ARCHIVE
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=%22achong%20laundry%22&phrasesearch=achong%20laundry&retrievecountrycounts=false&sortorder=score
For our research we have used:
Ancestry WORLDWIDE
Find-My-Past WORLDWIDE
http://www.FamilySearch.org
Internet forums, family history
Internet forums, specialised, e.g. our Victorian female ancestor made concertinas and a concertina forum knew where she worked, how she travelled to work, made at home, made at the premises!
Local, national and international archives
Local, national and international museums
Local schools
Local churches
Local hospitals
Local, national and international FHS family history societies
Local, national and international historical societies, such as Fulham & Hammersmith
Local, national and international newspapers and magazines
Ordering birth certificates, marriage certificates and death certificates to learn more about the family.
Just typing in a full name on the internet, with a date, with a location, etc: I typed in my great-grandfather’s full name and found him in a hospital archive as a little boy with his leg crushed from a horse and cart accident, the family knew the rumour of the accident and that sadly he became an alcoholic to help dull the constant pain.
Good Morning from Pennsylvania! I am wondering if you have info on a place called Munster House Asylum. My 2nd Gr Grandfather, Christopher Charles Baxter died there in 1868. I would love to know more about the place and possibly find out what his story was. Thanks for your time! Kathie
I have a relative noted to be in an asylum but understand from the record this to be a place of shelter if you were both sick and poor rather than insane.
Munster house or Mustow house Was A house that was most probably built in Elizabethan times it is said to have been used for hunting exploits of the Merry Monarch Around 1664 . Charles Feret. Wrote a lengthy account in Fulham old and new and which can be found on the web free to download there are a number of pages relating to the history of the house with photographs. you mention into particular the Mental asylum and a copy of a book by Faulkner that was held in the vicarage Had a postcard inserted in it and a picture of the house,with the following inscription “ a house for gentlemen nervously and mentally afflicted proprietor Mr. Cyrus A. Elliott”; The reverse of the card was inscribed Munster house , near Fulham , London , 3 miles from Hyde Park Corner . for the care and recovery of nervous epileptic and insane Genteman proprietor Mr C a Elliott Munster house was the hunting seat of his Majesty King Charles the second , contains 29 rooms. It is situated on the road from London to Fulham in the highest part of the parish and upon a gravelly soil. the pleasure grounds are 8 acres waled in studded with nobl trees and comprise lawns, a Meadow Orchard , Bowling Green , greenhouse , bowling alley, billiard and reading rooms and detached buildings for recreation and amusements . An additional house has been built containing a hall, large And lofty dining rooms, sitting and bedrooms , 17 separate rooms , washing and bathing rooms and a padded room and arefectory ward doing away with the mechanical restraint and rendering classification complete.The 1841,51 and 61 census should list occupants.
Thank you, Mr Burgess! Some great info. I will try to find the resource you mentioned. Since he was there only from 1867-1868, I wonder if there are other sources besides census records? Believe it or not, in Pennsylvania, I was able to apply for and get actual hospital records from 90 years ago…quite amazing!
I’m trying to find pictures or information about my family from wigan England. My great grandfather had a bike shop his last name is Greenalghe first name Christopher. Help please anything about the family.
Thank you
Hi, Fulham and Hammersmith are a long way from Wigan in Lancashire so unless your greatgrandfather set up shop in London ist unlikely we would be able to trace anything here. This site for the Local Archives gives you a start for your Wigan search.
Not sure if your ggf’s name came out right Greenhalgh and variations is a British name.
Suggest you try FindMyPast or look at similar area on Ancestry.
Hope this helps. Good Luck
Hello Janice
There is a Chistopher Greenhalgh, 1939 living in Kensington and Chelsea, Kensington North, 38 St. Lawrence Terrace
Is this him, did he move from Wigan to London
If it is him check the business directories for his bicycle shop
There are many Christopher Greenhalghs born in Lancashire
Hello,
I was placed in Nazareth House in Hammersmith in 1960 till 1964, along with two of my brothers, Barry and Jimmy. Can anyone give me any information please?
I think this link may be of help if you have not already visited it. From the lack of replies it seems no one using this site has more detail.
Good luck with your search.
In the early sixties when I was in my last years at school, a few of us went regularly to take out children from Nazareth House. I loved going and remember it as a happy place with clean, well fed children.But in the light of all that is going on I doubt my memories. My mum always gave me money to buy sweeties for the children and we usually went to the park. I just remember it as a happy place. I hope my memories are right.
jacqueline chute, I was there from 1962-1972.I have some photos but i may of been to young.
I am enquiring whether there are any old photos (circa 1901) of 457 Fulham Road. My great grandfather ran a business there .
This shop is located in the Fulham road almost opposite Brompton cemetery entrance. It located in Kensington and Chelsea
Thank you for your reply. I did find the shop recently i was just interested to see if any old photos of the building exijjst.
Hello,
Does anyone remember The Sisters of Charity in Hammersmith I am not referring to Nazareth House which was an orphanage. They lived in a beautiful house I think in the Mall.
Should like to hear from anyone out there.
Regards Josie
The Sisters of Charity of St Vincent and St. Paul had a foundation in the parish of The Holy Ghost and St. Stephen Shepherds Bush. It was located at 30 Ashchurch Grove.
For a brief historical survey of the catholic institutions of Hammersmith and Fulham read Pope’s Corner by Denis Evinson
The sisters of Charity at 22 Upper mall who owned this convent and a few buildings to the east were in fact the Irish Sisters of Charity. They arrived in 1920, and moved in on 25th Jan 1925 , and into a house originally housing the household of Catherine of Braganza, having knocked down a few cottages , and purchasing a piece of land , in 1927 they were able to open a hostel for Irish business girls. The nuns did a great deal of visiting and social work and documents exist in manuscript recording their day to day activities, including the difficulty they had getting their furniture through the front door of no 22… A History or Hammersmith. FHHS
Hi
I am trying to find out about my fathers history. He was born in Castle Street Fulham, his mums name was Victoria Maud Polson. Dads name was James Wyse Polson (28.2.1920). His mum was a book keeper for an electrical company, which I assume was unusual then. I think she must have been a single mum as no mention of a dads name on his birth certificate. Dad was fostered by Mrs Oddy who lived in Brighton but apparently kept in touch with his mum until he joined the Navy at 14. Bit of a long shot but I don’t know where to go from this
I hope someone can help
Kind regards
Ruth
Hello Ruth
My next traunch of research seems to have disappeared but looking at your posts came up with the same information:
ADA ODDY
1917 Marriage Ada Sarah Matthews marries Jack Oddy in Fulham age 31
1920 London Electoral Register living with John Oddy at 74 Stephendale Road Fulham
1939 Census Ada S Oddy living with James W Polson at 13 Over Street Brighton
1973 Death Ada Sarah Oddy Brighton
1973 Probate would it mention James and his mother MIss Polson
WILLIAM ROBERT WYSE
1927 London Electoral Register living at 40 Lillie Road
FREDERICK ROE WYSE
Born 1893 Fulham
FRANK HAROLD WYSE
1903 Born Fulham
1903 Baptised Barnes, illegitimate, mother Marian living in 15 Berkeley Gardens, Fulham
1939 Census refrigerating engineer, electrical?
JAMES WYSE POLSON
1939 Census Able Seaman GPO living at 13 Over Street, Brighton with Ada Oddy
FRANKLYN MUNDY POLSON
1928 London Electoral Register 99 Talgarth Road, relative?
ADAM WILLIAM POLSON
1927 Marriage to Elsie Amy Johnson in Fulham, relative?
There could be other Polsons for finding James’ mother and other Wyses for possibly finding James’ father, search through the London Electoral Registers for Fulham (but the father could have lived anywhere in London and the electrical company could have been anywhere in London not just Fulham). A DNA test might be the answer to find your relatives unless you have other snippets of information to research.
Does anyone remember W & G STORES in the Shepherds Bush area. My dad used to work at Television Centre in Wood Lane and he was always buying records, cassettes and CDs from W & G Stores. They had a massive selection and very knowledgeable staff across all genres.
Anyone remember this store and/or have memories of it?
Thanks in advance.
The shop was mid way down Shepherds Bush Market under one of the arches. When you first went in through the door there were racks of records. The sales counter was at the back of the shop. Looking at the counter, to the right were listening booths. You could take a record to the counter and they would put it on a turntable. You then went into a booth and could listen on headphones.
Hi David,
Read your email with interest.
I was living in Shepherds Bush from the age of 10 until 19 when I moved to Middx early 70s!
On a Saturday my Father always took me to this record shop such joy and the smell of vinyl when entering!! We never left without buying an LP.
We had quite a collection of records! Sadly, when my Father passed way my brother who was clearing the loft came across them. He will keep them now.
Regards Josie
If you go to my page and look in the shepherds bush album, you will fing photos of the market and WG Stores where many brought their records. https://www.facebook.com/HammersmithPalaisOldSkool/
the mention of W G STORES and the memories come flooding back, Always put my head in there on my way home from school,Happy Days. Regards.
During the late 60s & early 70s WG supplied QPR with records to play on match days. I had a soft spot for them for that reason.
Hi
Please can anyone help me locate Caroline Place, Fulham, where it may have been?
Thanks in advance
Hello Jane
There is a Caroline Walk in Lillie Road near Fulham Cross opposite 332 but the old houses down there have all gone now .
Good Luck .
Thank you Len!
Lillie Road was always mentioned by Grandad so I’m certain that must be it. Researching old family addresses so that I can visit and take photos, as close as I can. Thanks again, much appreciated
I’m trying to find out about a motor garage called M.A.P. Motors of 20a Waterford Road, Fulham. This could have been any time between about 1925 and 1960. Any information at all would be most welcome. Thanks.
Hi, was there a Goodson Road in Fulham in 1940? Doing so family tree work and received a copy of my great grandmothers marriage certificate and has her ladders as 12 Goodson Road, Fulham, but I can’t find it on map.
Can anyone help?
Goodson Road had a north side and a south side, and I believe was located by the Lillie road , and parallel to it, and has been absorbed into the Clem Attlee estate, approx opp. the present School
My grandmother was born at 6 Goodson Road
Fulham. My great grandmother was Eunice Cornell who married Carlton Allsop. Lots of buried secrets in this family! Before l married l lived in Lillie Road and went to school at Beaufort House Primary School in Lillie Road
I would love a copy of that photo please! My great grandfather George Joseph Pryor was MD of Palmer’s Stores and I am researching him and the Store. Littlewood’s offered £300,000 for it in 1953 which was accepted – that’s when it closed.
Hi Jo. You could join the I GREW UP IN FULHAM FB Site you might have some luck there with old photos 👍
Thank you
I remember going to Palmers with my grandmother. They used to have a Father Christmas and you paid for a photo And a gift. Five years ago, the last time I was in England, approximately on the corner of Hammersmith Broadway and King Street, a photography shop had a huge sepia photo of Palmers in their window.
If you look at my facebook page Hammersmith Palais Old Skool and go to the Hammersmith album, you will find photos of Palmers store which later became Littlewoods.
Hello,
I am trying to trace my paternal line. My paternal grandfather was born Frederick Abel Cole in 1912 to Edith Cole of Hammersmith Grove according to his birth certificate. He was later adopted.
I have found it difficult to find out anything else about Edith or her family but am very keen to know more. Any help you could give would be gratefully received.
mcindoevictoria@gmail.com
Hi have you tried Ancestry or Find my Past to check the 1911 census for Hammersmith Grove. You may get clues from Edith’s status in the household and who the other occupants were; particularly the head of household. Good luck.
Hi
1911 census states Edith was single age 18 living with parents
Alfred Septimus Cole and wifeLucinda Ellen at 134 Hammersmith Grove with brother Thomad Alfred age 16
And niece Anthea Beatrice May age 17
Looks like Edith had an illegitimate baby and the parents wouldn’t allow it to be kept.
My mother lived at no 135 opposite and these tall buildings tended to be divided for three flats
Alfred the father was a motor coach builder it’s possible he worked at the Chiswick factory that built London General Buses
Brian
Thank you
I used to live at 53 Lillee Roadwhich I believe has been pulled down. I would be interested in seeing any photos there are of the house and / or surrounding properties.
What years did you live there? Did you go to the Sir John Lillie School too? I was there from 1954-58 as my family lived very close by. There are certainly old maps of the area available online, a well as photos.
Hi Vic, I lived there from 1948 to 1952. We moved just before I was due to start school. There was a couple in the bottom flat ( I think their name was Miles ) my Grandparents and aunts rented the middle two floors and my parents and I had the top 2 rooms. I can find maps but no photos of that era.
If you go to Images on your search engine and then Google Lillie Road 1950 (be sure to get the spelling right) there are loads of images. Also try it with different dates. The London electoral rolls are also available on Ancestry.
Thank you
Hi, if you don’t have any luck on line as Vic suggests you could contact the LBHf archive in Hammersmith Library – (archives@lbhf.gov.uk). There is a charge for copies but they should be able to tell you what they have.
If you look at my facebook page Hammersmoth Palais Old skool, go to the Fulham album and you will find hundreds of old Fulham photos
Hi. I’m trying to find out about an Orphanage my Father was put in, around 1919/1920 in Fulham. How can I find any records please.
Many thanks
My grandmother was sent to an orphanage in 1923 called “Twynholm” – at 710, Fulham Road.
Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find much out about it but I know it was a house divided into 2 with girls in one half and boys in the other. I’m pretty sure her brother went there too. Good luck
Hello Sam
There is a Twynholm Hall at Fulham Cross which is in Lillie Road at the junction with Munster Road. SW6
Good Luck
Twynholm I believe was built as a p
Public House but was never used as such. I think it became a church,. “Fulham Old and New” published in the 1890s; there is/were copies in the Central Library in Fulham has some information I think
Thanks for your responses.
Yes, I think Twynholm House at Fulham Cross was later taken over by Sidney Black as a Baptist church.
He opened Twynholm orphanage on Fulham Road and it was ran quite strictly Baptist, as Nan recalled, with frequent visits to Twynholm church!
I’d love to hear from anyone who had relatives connected to Twynholm orphanage in the 1920’s.
This is a copy of an old postcard showing Twynholm Orphanage
Hi Peter,
I’d love to see the postcard but I can’t see it.
Could you possibly re-post image?
Thankyou!
I did try to post the picture but for some reason this site doesn’t appear to show images. If you email me I’ll send it.
I’m trying to find out about ryecroft children’s home in teddington Middlesex and the staff who worked there
Hi Teddington is outside our borough, suggest you try this link. You may not find much due to the 100 year rule. Try looking for managers or contacting the council. Have you found this link to the Teddington Society History Group. Good luck.
Hello, I worked there around 1975-76.
Cathy
I was there . Was there a Pamela Curtis when you were there
I was there . Was there a Pamela Curtis when you were there. I was there for 4 years.
I was there but I hated being there
I was one of the residents
hello Pamela,
I think you were probably there after I had left. When I was there it was a children’s ‘home’ rather than a hostel, with about 20 children aged 3-17, with a couple called Mr and Mrs Knott in charge, and various staff known as aunties, including me. It was pretty dreadful, and if you were there I am not surprised you were unhappy. I was very young and inexperienced at the time, but over the years I have often wondered about the children who had to survive such places. I hope you went on to find some stability and happiness in life.
Cathy
Hi Cathy
I found the place very hard to cope with. Which staff do you remember and I will see if I know anybody.
I was there when the manager Peter Martin was there. There was about 20 of us . Some of the staff was ok but I got bullied by the other kids.
nice education system.
Hello
I wonder if any of your members can tell me about residents of Parsons Green around 1790, or give me an idea of the extent to which an archival search would reveal things.
I have just come across a cello by William Forster, the maker to the Royal family at that time, with an inscription inside that indicates that his workshop was at Parson’s Green. We know that he had a string of prestigious retail shops on the Strand, and this information is entirely new to us.
He remains well recognised as one of the greatest British makers in history, so discovering a little bit more about him would truly be interesting.
If any of your members could point me in the right direction, or if the name William Forster is familiar to them from about the 1770s to the 1840s (there were four generations of William), that would be an amazing help. I’m hoping to publish the cello when I know more, I would be more than happy to pas the article to you as well.
My best
Ben Hebbert
Not going into the archive for a couple of weeks so it may be worth emailing direct to the archivist. archives@lbhf.gov.uk . The archives based in the Hammersmith Library (1st floor) have microfiche of the rate books available and there is name based index card system that sometimes contains a gem or two. Good luck.
We will certainly be interested to hear about such an interesting craftsman/businessman.
Is there still a pub where the greyhound on kings road used to be and if so what is it now called , many thanks
Hello Dale , kings road would come under L B of kensington & chelsea
Or did Dale mean the Greyhound on Fulham Palace Road?
if he did mean the one on Fulham Palace Rd, yes there was one in its place, but that to has now shut down.
Hello! I am doing some genealogy research on my family and have hit a dead end with my great-grandfather William Albert Jackson who was married and died in Fulham.
Facts I know to be true:
Date of Birth – 17 May 1910
Married September 1931 to Edith Simmons in Fulham
Died March 1942 in Fulham from tuberculosis at the age of 32 and is buried in an unmarked grave in a cemetery in Fulham.
I remember my grandmother having said he was involved with aircraft at one point and I did find a UK Royal Navy Registry document with his name on it from May 1928. Could anyone tell me if the UK Royal Navy was involved with aircraft in 1928 in the Fulham area?
My goal is to try and determine William’s parents as the story ends with him at this point. Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
Kindly,
Erin
If you obtain a copy of Williams marriage certificate it should give you his fathers name and occupation.
Hi Erin
Hopefully you have done Ancestry or Find My Past (one or other usually free in libraries). Marriage certificates can be useful with witness names so do send for marriage and birth certificates. You can also try Free BMD. Try this https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?scan=1&r=123770025:8334&d=bmd_1528955346” link to a birth registered in June.
As for the RN in Fulham you had Airships at Wormwood Scrubs. See this https://slindonatwarmyblog.wordpress.com/ww1-airship-station/and also this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_Scrubs.
The Archive at LBHF (archives@lbhf.gov.uk) is also very useful and may have more info if you can get an address from your Grandmother.
good luck
Thank you for your leads! Do you know where I would request a copy of his marriage certificate? There seem to be no online scans of his marriage documents and I presently live in the United States. I am active on ancestry.com, which has been instrumental in obtaining information, but have not found much on William A Jackson there.
Kindly,
Erin
Hi Erin
You can order a copy of the marriage certificate on line on the general Register Office website:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Peter
The Heritage of London Trust’s summer conference is on London’s international history, and will be held at the Society of Antiquaries, Burlington House, Piccadilly on Friday 15 June.
His Royal Highness, The Duke of Gloucester, KG, GCVO, will address the conference.
Please find the flyer and booking link here – http://heritageoflondon.org/events/
We do hope to see you on 15 June.
I am interested in talking to a member of the society for a new magazine being produced for Olympia London, particularly in relation to the Blythe Road area. Needless to say, we’re working to a tight deadline, so over the next day or so would be great!
I have no info but would be really interested to read your article as my family lived on Blythe road for four decades (and Rayleigh road now Lakeside ). Please let us know when it is published.
Hello,
Seeking information on May Elizabeth Parry of 12 Seymour Place, Fulham. She gave birth to my great grandfather, Douglas Herbert Parry on the 9th of May 1908 at the Queen Charlotte Hospital in Marylebone. Her occupation is listed as a Cashier (Tea Rooms of Fulham).
My grandfather was illegitimate and no father is listed on his birth certificate. I’ve exhausted all avenues I can think of trying to find out more about May, the only information I can find is this birth extract and the baptismal certificate for my great grandad, which sheds no further light on the matter.
Any help would be fantastic as I am at a loss.
Regards
Jay
Hello Jay
Robert Whitcomb Denning may be the father of Douglas
May Elizabeth Parry may be a false name, the only ones who come up on Ancestry are age 10 in 1908 (and used name combinations/similar names)
A DNA test would tell you without these vital facts for record searching
1901 CENSUS
Robert Whitcomb Denning is a waiter at a club, age 18, born in Knightsbridge, living in Westminster
Father George and mother Sarah
There are three families on Ancestry to contact
1908 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Robert Whitcomb Denning, living in Marylebone West, Westminster,
12 Seymour Place
1908 BIRTH
Douglas Herbert Parry, born at Queen Charlotte’s Hospital, St Marylebone, illegitimate birth
Mother May Elizabeth Parry (may be false name), maiden name left blank, living at 12 Seymour Place, working at Fulham Tea Rooms as a cashier
1908 BAPTISM
Douglas Herbert Parry, mother May Parry, father left blank, baptised at St Mark, St Marylebone Road, Westminster
1911 CENSUS
Robert Whitcomb Denning is a waiter at a club age 27, born in Knightsbridge, living in Hove, Sussex with parents
Hello Lorraine,
Thank you very much for your reply.
“May Elizabeth Parry” is indeed a mistake, deliberate or otherwise I cannot tell.
Her name was actually “Elizabeth Mabel Parry” born in Kensington during April of 1883, to “Joseph James Parry” and “Elizabeth Ellen Parry nee Darch” This I established through DNA from myself and my grandmother.
Of some interest, when I punch 12 Seymour Place Fulham into Google, it comes up with the Carpenters Arms Pub.
I still do not have any information on her adult life after the 1911 census, where she is working as a “Duster” with her sister Edith at 17 Tournay Road, Walham Green. I cannot find any more information via Ancestry, even through family trees. I will definitely look into Mr Robert Whitcomb Denning.
Thank you again. Hopefully I can find out what have to her after 1911.
Jay
Hello, I am writing from Western Australia (but hope to visit London later this year) and I am trying to find information on Walter William Parry (c.1798 – 1860) the earliest paternal relative I have been able to trace. He was a market gardener on or near the Kings Road in the mid 19thC. His fifth child (also Walter William Parry) left for Australia in 1856.
I have yet to find a birth record, but I am also keen to pinpoint his final residence which is listed as 3 Caroline Terrace, Kings Rd, Fulham. He was survived by his wife Catherine, and is buried at Brompton Cemetery.
Any information or assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Yours sincerely
Simon Parry
odysseybookshop@westnet.com.au
West London Nursery Gardens by E.J. Willson, mentions an entry in Feret Fulham old and New Vol 2 p85, that gives the information that the noted nursery of a Henry Parry (Parry and Co.)was in Sands End, part of the Kings Road …the main thoroughfare and private road of the King from Buckingham Palace Mews to the bridge at Fulham (1729—)Very little is known, except that it consisted of four acres,of freehold land, bounded on one side by Chelsea Creek, NB some of this is now filled in.)with a frontage of 162 feet on the Kings Road;it included a neat brick dwelling house, with a piece of garden ground nearly encircled by a brick wall and it was sold by a Mr Raine at the Rainbow Coffee house in Cornhill on April 22nd 1803, and the auctioneers sale bill say it is held by Mr Parry ,florist, and 12 guineas per annum.
Many thanks! Potentially another piece in the puzzle. I will attempt to follow this up.
G’day Simon,
Have you been DNA tested? I can find no information on my great grandfather other than his mother being listed as May Elizabeth Parry or 12 Seymour Place, Fulham. He was illegitimate and no father was listed on his birth certificate. I’m grasping at straws, may be their is a connection, who knows.
regards
Jay
In 1911, Margaret Allen was at 307 North End Road in Fulham. Can you tell me if the buildings currently at that address were built before 1911?
Thanks,
Sharon in California
Hello Sharon
They look old, contact the local archives they should know
https://www.google.com/maps/place/307+North+End+Rd,+Hammersmith,+London+W14+9NS/@51.4857246,-0.2027047,3a,75y,67.31h,110.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8cc1BoDBAyTD1hTy5y7QiQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D8cc1BoDBAyTD1hTy5y7QiQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D76.70076%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760f90559e6db1:0xb8dcab915152ad83!8m2!3d51.4857548!4d-0.2025
Dear members I’m writing on behalf of the Morgan Giles family. Frank Morgan Giles is a very famous boat builder, designer and racer who was active from 1900 to the early 1960s. According to family tradition he set up
business as a boat builder / designer, possibly also offering a chandlery service, from 1902 “under the arches of Hammersmith bridge.” If you have any information about boatyards therabouts from that time, or could direct us where to look we would be most grateful. At the moment we are drawing a blank! with every good wish Clare McComb.
Hello Sharon
They look old, contact the local archives they should know
https://www.google.com/maps/place/307+North+End+Rd,+Hammersmith,+London+W14+9NS/@51.4857246,-0.2027047,3a,75y,67.31h,110.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8cc1BoDBAyTD1hTy5y7QiQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D8cc1BoDBAyTD1hTy5y7QiQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D76.70076%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760f90559e6db1:0xb8dcab915152ad83!8m2!3d51.4857548!4d-0.2025
Hello Clare
Could only find City Yard by the Thames
Should be able to find the business in business directories, found another business under the arches with bridge arche address
In 1901 Morgan-Giles moved to London and started a business in Hammersmith designing small wooden boats. Harry May joined him in 1909, they formed Morgan Giles & May Naval Architects and Yacht Builders, the boat building yard beside the River Thames in Hammersmith known as City Yard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Charles_Morgan-Giles
https://www.morgangilesarchive.org.uk/index.php/people-2/f-c-morgan-giles
Could I ask for your help to find any descendants of
ERNEST PHILIP FRYER.
I have a WW1 memorial plaque I would like to see returned to his family.
Details I have found so far –
1911 Ernest was living at 103 Blenheim Crescent with his mother Ellen Huskinson (father Daniel Fryer died in 1880) and brother Charles. He is listed as a Builder’s clerk. Age 31
In Dec 1916 he married Gertrude Nailer. Also Dec 1916 brother Charles married Amelia Moore, perhaps a double wartime wedding?
After the marriage it seems Gertrude continued to live with her family at 124 Finborough Road.
Ernest was a Gunner in Royal Garrison Artillery. He went to France in April 1917 with 303 Siege Battery R.G.A. and was killed in action 6th April 1918. He is buried in Hedauville Community Cemetery, France.
I have not found any children of his marriage, but wonder if there are descendants of his brother Charles?
The plaque came into my possession handed down via distant in-laws from Birmingham area, but I can find no connection with my family at all, and would like this memorial to Ernest Fryer to find its proper home.
Sincerely,
Robert Couling
Please send your email address to history@allsaints-fulham.org.uk and I will put you in touch with a family named Fryer to see if any connections.thanks
Hello Robert
There are several families on Ancestry you can contact through their messaging system
Ancestry Support might be able to help
0800 404 9723
Interested in pictures of old Fulham, then checkout Face book at Backtrack Fulham
Hi I am still trying to find the house where my parents lodged in 1950, the only info I have is that the house was on St Marks Road and the landlady was a Mrs Baxter.
Kind regards
J. McCullough
St Marks road is in Kensington and Chelsea. Suggest check votes lists at Kensington library.
or look in the Fulham folder on Hammersmith Palis old skool FB as there are hundreds of Fulham, Hammersmith, Shepherds bush and other areas
Does anyone have any information on the history of the building at 73-75 Scrubs Lane? (Currently owned by HHB Communications.) It is a Victorian Factory building – does anyone know what it has been used for over the years?
Thanks!
Hello Esme
This might help
Cumberland Park Factory Conservation Area Appraisal Report
March 2017
Click to access opdc_-_cumberland_park_factory_conservation_area_appraisal_report.pdf
The Cumberland Park Factory Conservation
Area is located on the eastern side of Scrubs
Lane, adjacent to St. Mary’s Cemetery and
is within the east of the OPDC area. The
area includes the properties and associated
open spaces of 69 to 91 Scrubs Lane
Contact these people for more information
Newspapers only not bringing up anything relevant or interesting
Good Morning
Sheppards of Fordingbridge and possibly Shepperds Bush
I am doing some family research and would appreciate any information you may have on the Sheppard/ Shepherd family in the 1700’s
The story goes that they may have owned large parcels of land in and around Shepherds Bush. Fact or fiction it is also said that one of the Shepherds died intestate and the property reverted to the crown
I believe my direct relatives in and around Fordingbridge and Shepherds Bush were
Caroline Sheppard (b) 1796 married George BANKS 1824 travelled to Australia as a Sea Captain
Elizabeth Sheppard (b) 1798 married Richard BANKS 1823 travelled to New Zealand as a Sea Captain
I believe their father was
Joseph Shepherd (b) December 1773 married to Elizabeth MILE
Their children ..possibly these, a combination of these..not sure
Elizabeth, Caroline, William, George Anne, Charles James, Joseph Sarah, Cornelius
His father may have been Joseph Sheppard married to Sarah HUTTON
If you help in any way, it would be greatly appreciated
Many Thanks
Allan Wall
Cottesloe
Western Australia
Ancestry allwall99
Email awall46@bigpond.net.au
Hi
I have been researching my family & have found that a majority of my family & their descendants were from the Fulham/Hammersmith area on my grandad’s side & was wondering if you guys have a closed facebook group that we can post questions in as I am researching from Australia I know nothing of the area. I also have a handful of building pictures I would love to see if anyone can identify but not sure the best way
Hi, I was born in Fulham & might be able to help. I have been researching for 20 years & quite a lot of my family was Fulham & Hammersmith based. I am on Facebook CA Nicholson-Ross if you would like to contact me. Regards
Hi I also was born in Fulham 1950 and my parents and their families lived in Fulham from 1910 ish. So am happy if I can help contact caroltappin@hotmail.com
Hammersmith Palais old skool has a closed group and a public page, either may be able to help as there are 25000 plus who use it.
Great blog! Do you have any helpful hints for aspiring writers?
I’m hoping to start my own website soon but I’m a little lost on everything.
Would you propose starting with a free platform like WordPress or go
for a paid option? There are so many options out there that I’m completely confused ..
Any tips? Cheers!
WordPress is a great platform for outfits like us; a charity. The ‘free service’ is paid for by adverts appearing in the body of your site. If you are seeking a commercial use then there are other platforms or WordPress paid for service. There are lots of add-ons etc but if you need complete freedom then a paid for service is the answer.
Good luck
Hello FHHS
Today for example my replies are going on and been back in and can still see them – when posting the software either stays looking at my reply or goes to the top and then back to my reply
The replies that disappear the software goes to the top and stays there but can see timer working and finishing – HARWATH have posted this subject 4 times with this problem software goes to top of page and stays there and is not posted – is the question corrupt?
Are other people posting subject replies that disappear
Thanks, keeping research in Word due to this problem
Hi there, I have found a record, for my great Aunt, who was Edith Feathers, I was just curious to know if it was a poor house, or a hospital at the time? I wonder if you could help? thanks
Gender: Female
Age: 3
Birth Date: 9 Nov 1889
Admission Date: 4 Sep 1893
School: Captain Marryats School
Admission Place: Hammersmith and Fulham, London, England
Father: Alfred Feathers
Hello Lissie
Saint Dunstan’s Road School 1886 – 1951
Renamed Captain Marryat School in 1951
School closed in 1977
Hi
I’m trying to find out some information regarding the death of my great uncle in 1933. He was riding his bicycle and was hit and killed by a drunk driver. I’ve been told that it took place in Hammersmith in September 1933, he was 23 years old.
My nan would always talk about it with such sadness. She said it went to court and was in the local papers.
Is there any way I could get a copy of the newspaper article or even details of an inquest (if they done them then, I have no idea)
Hi
You have included the date but it would be good to have his name too. The LBHF archive at Hammersmith Library has the local papers on microfiche. If you cannot get there on a Monday or Tuesday then email the Archivist (archives@lbhf.gov.uk) she will probably ask a volunteer to search for the report and court case. Do include the name please.
Good Luck
An initial free search can be made by checking the British newspaper library website. Use Hammersmith, relatives name and confine to Say 1932-34,
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
my father was born on 28 Feb 1920 in 22 castletown road. trying to trace some family for years with no success. his mother’s name was Louise Victoria Maud polson. she was a book keeper for an electrical devices company. father u.known. my dad’s name was James Wyse polson. any info would be much appreciated
I knew a family by the name of Polson who lived in Bramber rd W14 quiet a few years ago .
Hello Ruth
MIss Polson may not not have been old enough to vote to go on the electoral register.
1920 ELECTORAL REGISTER
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/england-and-wales-electoral-registers-1920-go-online
1919 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Borough: Islington
Ward: Finsubury & Fulham
22 Castletown Road
Selina McAffrey
Andrew Stevens Williams
Bertha Louisa Marguerite Williams
1920 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Borough: Hammersmith & Fulham
Ward: Fulham East & West
22 Castletown Road
Selina McAffrey
Alexander TAS Williams, son
Andrew Stevens Williams
Bertha Louisa Marguerite Williams
1921 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Borough: Hammersmith & Fulham
Ward: Fulham East & West
22 Castletown Road
Selina McAffrey
Andrew Stevens Williams
Bertha Louisa Marguerite Williams
Andrew is a shipping clerk and Bertha is a Russian, they married in 1897 in St Petersburg,
The 1921 census comes out in 2022 so Miss Polson may still be living at 22 Castletown Road and be listed on the census.
Other than putting this information onto another more general forum (this forum focusing on the Fulham & Hammersmith area) may be able to help further. Please let me know!
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm
I am trying to find out some information about Everington Street School. Does anyone know what status the school had & what ages could attend, between about 1915 & 1930? I am trying to find out if my Grandmother would have attended; she was born in 1912. Many thanks for any info.
I lived in Lancaster Court from sometime in the 1950s but can’t recall exactly when. Does anyone know when the building of Lancaster Court was completed and families started moving in?
Lancaster Court was first started in 1948 and extended in 1969. Had a quick look but couldn’t see your family name in the electoral registers. Try a visit to LBHF archives at Hammersmith Library. Good luck
Thank you, John. The 1969 extension would possibly have been when Swan Court and Ravensworth Cour became part of the Lancaster Court Estate . The large block that stands to the left as you enter from the Darlan Road entrance was also a later addition I think, from poor memory was added in the late 50s/early ’60s. My Dad lived there when he and my Mum divorced and Mum moved into Swan Court. As a family we lived at number 12, Lancaster Court from about 1955/6 until about 1979/80 so imagine we should have appeared on the Electoral Roll for that period. If I get a chance I’ll try the LBHF archives to try to get a better idea of when we moved in.
Thanks again.
My parents lodged with a Mrs Baxter St Marks Road in 1950 I would dearly love to see the house( outside of course) before I leave London how can I find the actual address?
I did find the Servite church where they married an absolutely beautiful church on the Fulham road
If it is near the Servite Church I think you must be talking of St Marks Grove or gardens which are just beyond the Chelsea Pensioner Pub and in Kensington and Chelsea. A visit to LBKC archives would allow you to search their electoral registers for the period and identify the address. Of course none of this will be online yet. Good luck.
John thank you so much for your reply, very much appreciated, it was definitely St Marks Road.
I shall see if I am able to check the registry as you suggest
Kind regards
I am trying to find information on a George Johnson who was living in Sinclair Road, Hammersmith in 1973. He was born in 1923 so may be deceased now and, as he is my father, I would like to know when and where he died. Any information would be appreciated. Regards
Marilyn McLellan
Looking in Free BMD on the web under deaths does not show any deaths of that name and age in LBHF or in Wandsworth or Kensington/Kensington & Chelsea up to the end of 1983. Ancestry or Find my Past may help. If still alive 192.com maybe of use but you have to pay. If you can get to LBHF Archives on a Monday or Tuesday then you could search the electoral registers from 1973 onwards to see when or if he moved. Of course remember that he might not have registered to vote. It is always possible that someone in the street may remember the family especially if they stayed a while, so knocking on doors or a flyer might work. Good luck.
Hi, I am enquiring about the buildings that existed at #2 Salem Place Hammersmith, London in 1874. This is the year my Great Grandfather left for South Australia with his family. His name was Mr. Henry Charles Coates Hicks. Would any of your Members know of the whereabouts of any old photos of this area at the time, or if they actually exist. The area was totally changed when the flyover was built. Any information would be most appreciated.
LBHF Archives have a photo of a John Bloxham sketch dated 1938. There would be a charge for a copy. Do get in touch archives@lbhf.gov.uk .
Thank You John, this is much appreciated, I will endeavour to follow this up. Cheers Ray Hicks.
Hi update to my first request (novice mistakes made)
I am looking for information on the Martin family that was living at 18/20 Aspenlea Road Fulham. Alfred Martin was the head of the household until his death in 1896 not 1886! he was a tailor but have no info as to where he traded. Children were Catherine, Lucy, Lillian and Alfred.. Has anyone any info, one daughter on the 1911 census appears to be a teacher, but I do not know where it just looks like it says L cc.
Hi
I am looking for information on the Martin family that was living at 18/20 Aspenlea Road Fulham. Alfred Martin was the head of the household until his death in 1886 he was a tailor but have no info as to where he traded. Children were Catherine, Lucy, Lillian and Alfred.. Has anyone any info, one daughter on the 1911 census appears to be a teacher, but I do not know where it just looks like it says L cc.
Probably London County Council. Meaning what we would call a State school, not a private one.
Thanks Helen,
I had a thought it may mean that, I need to find where she was a teacher and hopefully may get some pictures as I have none of any of these people!
I Think maybe they were educated at a school in St Dunstans Road as I have found admissions lists with parents as listed at 18 or 20 Aspenlea Road which would point to them.
Hello I am researching 66 Fulham Road, Kensington. My Father was born there in 1929 – at that time his grandfather Henry LYDIATT was running a very successful Grocers shop from that address.
I would love to find photos (or newspaper items) from the period 1915 – 1935 so that I can see what it looked like in their day.
Thanks xxx
66 Fulham Road would definitely be in Kensington and Chelsea, it appears to have been absorbed into either an interiors shop or an estate agent. See Street View. You should be able to find photographs and newspaper archives at LBKC Archive 12 Phillimore Walk, London, W8 7RX, Tel: 020 7361 3010 check their website. If you are not local it would be worth contacting them in the first place.
Good luck
Hello,
My name is Oliver and I am looking to speak to local historians about a documentary I am making on HMP Wormwood Scrubs. They do not have to be an expert on the prison so much as the area. Please get in touch if you can help,
Kind regards,
Ollie
0203 580 3723 | 07960 931 025
Hi Oliver
If you email me I can probably help.
Peter
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your reply and offer of help. What is the best email address to reach you on?
Kind regards,
Oliver
I was expecting you to reply.vernon thanks
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your response. What is your email address or the best way to get in touch with you?
Kind regards,
Ollie
It might be worth asking this question on the “Notting Hill and North Kensington” Facebook group.
I am researching forgotten variety star Norah Blaney (real name Cordwell). She was born in 1893 and lived at 226 Hammersmith Grove (1901 census) and 65 Lonsdale Road (1911). She was at school with Winifred (Biddy) Johnson who lived at 28, Eyot Gardens (1901) and 31 St Peter’s Square (1911). I am trying to find a likely school they would have attended. Norah was baptised at St Thomas of Canterbury and may have gone to the school next door but they don’t seem to have records going back that far.I have tried Hammersmith Archives but they weren’t all that helpful on the phone. I wonder if anyone has any ideas.
Don’t be put off by your experience with Hammersmith archives. The archivist is only there 2 days per week,and volunteer staff often staff the enquiry points who are still learning.
The. British newspaper library on line has a very large number of articles in newspapers including the Stage. You could try the British Music hall society web site for contacts as well
Researching family history from Melbourne, Australia.
From “School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 (obtained from Ancestry.com), my great uncle Frederick John Harvey (born 31/12/1899 in St Giles, London) was admitted to Ackmar Road School in Hammersmith and Fulham on 10/10/1904. The residential address for the Harvey family is stated as 38 Apple Road. According to Google maps, this street does not exist. Assuming it no longer exists or is now known by another name, can you advise of its present location.
Thanks in anticipation, Kerry.
Looks like a transcription error, Kerry. Should be Epple Road.
Ackmar Road School was in Parsons Green, Fulham. It was the school of choice for the Board of Guardians Receiving Home just around corner. It was later a school for deaf but not sure of dates. I have a photo of a stone carving rescued from the demolition dating to when the school was expanded. Would be happy to send. Also the old school, now a private home.
If your relative was R.C. Then from the Receiving Home boys went to St Mary’s or St. Vincent’s in the Hendon Middlesex area. You might find your relative in the Census of 1911 for those orphanages. Not always orphans, just poor.
An alternative for boys was the Training Ship Exeter moored out in Grays, Essex. It equipped boys for a life in the merchant navy.
Effie Road perhaps?
Hope this helps.
Susan Jeffrey
I went to school in Ackmar Rd in 1964 and it was called St Marks annex, with the main school being situated in Bishops Ave near Putney bridge, both have gone now.
Hello.
When my father died I found, with his WW2 medals, a silver like medalion connected with the borough. On one side, around the edge is the script…
“BOROUGH OF HAMMERSMITH – ALDERMAN H. FOREMAN OBE. MP. JP.
MAYOR 1913 – 1919”
This script surrounds what I assume is the old Borough of Hammersmith coat of arms which carries the motto “PECTEMUR AGENDO”
On the obverse is a depiction of, what I take to be, a soldier and a sailor shaking hands either side of Britania. Underneath is the inscription…
“VICTORY AND PEACE”
Also, very small, is the makers information..
REGD. ??666825 MAPPIN AND WEBB LONDON
Unfortunately the medalion has been damaged by drilling a hole at the top for a chain or ribbon.
I have found out a small amount about Alderman Foreman and understand that he was a prominent figure in the Borough.
I hope this is of interest
Peter Monk
Canvey Island.
I think that the motto was Spectemur Agendo. Some councillors apparently joked that it meant Spit on the Agenda.
Photo of him using this link presenting medal. https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photos/alderman-henry-forman-mp
Well found. Fascinating stuff.
Dear All,
Finding Josefa
Good day
Can anyone please point me in the right direction?
In 1990 -1991, In Fulham, London, lived an old woman Josefa. At that time, she must have been 86. She lived alone in a house on Munster Road, I lived down the road. She was suffering from Alzheimer’s and I used to check on her daily for a year, as in the winter she constantly turned off the heating.
It was only between the social worker (2 x week) and myself (sometimes 3 x day) that anyone would check on her. Obviously at the time, I was not interested in her origins as she wouldn’t be able to answer me coherently. I would say to her, Josefa, I am too busy to come all the time, so please do not turn off the electricity, as I had paid for it and that it was colder inside the house than the freezing temperatures outside.
She would respond that she is used to it because in her country, Latvia, it was colder. And I would be frustrated … but this is not Latvia, I would say.
She would just smile.
I would have to cycle back from Fulham Broadway, a job an advertising agency, during lunchtimes to check that the heating was on, as it was so cold. I could not leave London for weekends, as I would be delivering sandwiches and food to her. I think too that Meals on Wheels also delivered sometimes. Or some other organization but it was not regular, or I would recall someone else being present.
Long story short. I returned from holiday with my girlfriend and when I went to her house, she was gone. She had been taken to a nursing home in Surrey and after much investigation I found out where she was. Alison drove me there to visit her. They had cut her hair short and she just had a bath and was sitting on her bed.
She recognized me immediately. Josefa’s hair was mattered and she hadn’t had a bath in all the time that I knew her, as the social workers don’t do that. Of course, Josefa sometimes didn’t use the toilet, maybe she didn’t remember. I called the nursing home a month later, to check on Josefa. They told me that she had died and that they had no record of the next of kin. Days later her house was sold and was being renovated.
If you walked down Munster Road with Fulham Palace Road to your back, her house would be on the right hand side. Maybe someone would know.
This is all the information that I have.
Three weeks ago an old friend from Malibu, California, said that he would come to see me in Helsinki and said that he wanted to go to Latvia, as his grandmother had come from there. We immediately booked the flights to Riga and arrived there last Monday. Riga was amazing, we were only there for two days. I said to Barrie, that we should not go to the holocaust museum.
I am in-between a Law degree in Finland and UN job in Geneva, so I have bought flights to Riga where I shall spend a month. I would like to trace Josefa. I don’t even know her family name. She would tell me that she has an Irish tenant and that he overflowed the water from his bath and that there was water stains on the wallpaper. The stains were there, but that tenant lived there fifteen years ago. From that I gathered that she had no living relatives. I did recall some municipality bills and I am sure that I will be able to recognize a name,
if I would see some records. I am sure that Josefa has records. They must exist in London somewhere. I hazard a guess that Josefa was Jewish. I am sure that she came from Latvia as she always spoke of her.
Anyone with leads, please contact me.
With very best regards
Franck Naidoo
Is this a first name or surname. The family tree databases list a number of residents with this forename living and dying in Fulham or Hammersmith around 1990s
My 95 year old father, Kenneth Arthur Spindler was a pupil at West Kensington Central School for boys from 1933 until 1939. He is very interested in any material you may hold relating to the school and its pupils during this period or any information any members or readers can provide. With many thanks for your help,
Sussan
Hello. I found a photo of the school from that period which might bring back some memories for your father, although if the boys and girls were in separate buildings I would guess this might be the girls’ school, given the emphasis on domestic science. Here is a link to the picture on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/clivehurst/41755644691/in/dateposted-public/
Clive Hurst
Parish Priest at Our Lady of Perpetual Help on Stephendale Rd / Tynemouth Street showed me a small building only visible from the back garden of the church and attached House. Which is due for demolition. He has been told it is one of the oldest buildings in fulham. It’s tiny. I’ve taken pictures. Can you please advise ASAP as t might be the council aren’t aware as it’s not visible from the street. It would be a shame to lose it if it does have historical significance. I’ve taken pictures this morning.
Check out an aerial view of the building Google search” Google maps aerial street view SW6”
I have separately passed your comment on the Fulham Society who act as a planning watchdog and campaign against inappropriate or poor decisions and development.
I trust that they will be in touch shortly.
Hello im after some information about the Fulham Market which was erected in 1923 with 127 shops all under one roof .
publication of Feb 1970 states the following. This information would have been extracted from the Fulham Council Minutes, which should contain more detailed information FCM 1922-23 p 108, 1936-7,p.327,416,477. development of the site may well be in other council minutes.Local newspapers also at the library or available online from British Library may have adverts.
Fulham Market hall was a covered market constructed on vacant land adjoining Fulham town Hall. The area was laid out with intersecting gangways.It had a double entry on Fulham and Harwood Road, a number of stalls having frontage on Harwood Road. ( I have a vague recollection of going in the old access entrances myself). The Council decided in 1937 to acquire the land from the Fulham Market Hall company, following a letter from the Ministry of Transport concerning the provision of car parks. Strong local objections followed, the market continued with the land owned by the council now. Part of the area was used for an air-raid shelter, and after the war licences wee again renewed until it finally closed in 1951. The market was never really successful.
There is actually a postcard for sale on eBay at the moment of the market hall frontage for the next few days(9th+).
Many Thanks for your Information
Regards Len .
Hi – I am interested in the wharf/basin of water just to the east of Putney Bridge at the bottom of Fulham High Street – do you know the history of this? I can see on an old map a place just to the west of the water called Fulham Vestry Wharf, so could have been a small harbour/wharf for a local factory perhaps but any ideas would be appreciated.
This is Swan Wharf, Steve. There was once a pub there called the Swan Inn which burnt down in 1871 and a malt house where they brewed their beer stood behind it. There was also a Swan Brewery in the Walham Green area of Fulham but I’m not sure if there was any connection between the two. In 1900 Swan Maltings belonged to the Royal Brewery, Chelsea. Swan Wharf was taken over by the Fulham Vestry along with the Toll House when the present Putney Bridge was erected in the 1880s. They used it for emptying local rubbish into barges for disposal at Rainham, Essex. The coal wharf for Cramer Roberts and Co. was also situated here and nearby were Willowbank and Carrara wharves. The Swan draw dock (narrow riverbank inlet) has a footbridge crosing it.
The end of Fulham High Street was the old wooden Fulham Bridge which was replaced about 1880. Hence this is why this back street is still named Fulham High Street. Incidentally I believe that Fulham Bridge was only the second bridge to be built across the Thames after London Bridge.
Please see our publications list, there is a book about Fulham(Putney) Bridge.
Hi, I have some old photographs and have been trying to find out about the photographers who took them. One is by the Hammersmith Photographic Co.. My internet searching hasn’t been much help so could you tell me where I can find out about this company. I am in Australia so the internet is my gateway to the world. Thank you
The Hammersmith Photographic Company 31 King St West Hammersmith. Got this from entry on web. Note no postcode or district so possible pre their allocation.
Check with Archives department
31 King St West Hammersmith shows on this Insurance map from 1900 (stamped 1901 British Museum). That address (from #27 – #33) is shown as “Chas. Baker & Co. Outfitters”, which I assume occupied the ground floor. The Photographic company would have offices on the upper floor(s). See the map herehttp://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlineex/firemaps/england/london/atoc/zoomify151701.html
Hello,
My name is Sophie and I am looking for any information you may have on a lady named Vera McKay. She was a singer during the 1960’s and I believe, had lived in Fulham for a time.
Any information you have would be much appreciated.
Thank you
Dear FHHS
I am a history teacher at The Godolphin and Latymer School and we are planning for June 2018 an exhibition about the school and the Great War. We have consulted the school archive which is kept at the Hammersmith archives and found reference to the aircraft factory (i.e. Waring and Gillow) in Cambridge Grove having suffered bomb damage in the First World War and that this was ‘friendly fire’. Can’t find any reference to this in published texts – were there anti-aircraft guns in the area?
(I have just completed paperwork to join FHHS and it may be that you can be of great help to us in researching for our exhibition so I look forward to more contact!)
Hello Amanda, I am an ex-pupil of Godolphin and Latymer and saw your query about anti-aircraft guns. There is reference to the anti-aircraft guns around Hammersmith Grove in a Facebook posting under the ‘Hammersmith Palais – Old Skool’ group. If you search for anti-aircraft guns it will bring up a post from the administrator dated 3rd August 2015 in which he tells the story of Geoff Cronin’s memories of WW2 and reference to the guns going off all night, amongst other interesting items. Hope this helps. All the best for the exhibition !
Thanks so much for this! The exhibition is 28 June 2018 (4pm) so do come along if you are interested!
Or perhaps a doctor’s house?
Hello there, I have discovered from the death certificate that my father’s sister died aged 5 months at 23 Broomhouse Road. This was not the family address, so I am wondering if it was a children’s hospital? Or maybe it was the house of a relative or friend and the baby died there. Can you help? Many thanks, Vicky Olliver.
Vicky,
The 1939 Wartime Census shows that 23, Broomhouse Road was the Fulham Babies Hospital. It appears to be still standing but is at 24, Broomhouse Road now, probably as a result of the flying bomb that hit it in 1945 and put it out of action for a while. There were no casualties.
Hello Mark, thank you so much for this information! That’s really helpful. With best wishes, Vicky Olliver.
Good Morning,
I am a trustee of a small car museum, The Frazer Nash Archives Trust, and I am interested in details of Michael Tenbosch who purchased a Frazer Nash sports car in 1949.
The car was actually invoiced to JC Brodie Ltd of New Kings Road, Fulham. Google has given me just one clue:
according to The Commercial Motor on 11th May 1940, JC Brodie and Co Ltd of 79-91 New Kings Road SW6 was a garage somehow connected with The Gas Light and Coke Co. and was also one of a “List of concerns qualified to fit low-pressure gas bags and carburettors to commercial vehicles”.
This may be the whole story, but if anybody knows any more about Tenbosch or JC Brodie I would be interested to hear it.
Thank you, James Trigwell
Hello,
How would I go about finding which school my Father went to in Fulham in the early 1930s? I believe it was possibly a Catholic School.
Thank you,
M
Do you have a name and address to work from, it may then be possible to suggest the likely school. There are unlikely to be attendence lists available. St Thomas’s, Estcourt Rd, Fulham, London SW6 7HB would be a good starting point though. Good luck.
Hi,
St Edmunds RC secondary school
St Dunstans Rd (off Fulham Palace Rd)
Note: This is now called The William Morris academy.
Good luck with your search
I should be grateful if you would let me know where I might find information about the wharves which operated on the north bank of the Thames between Hammersmith and Putney bridges. I often walk in this area but have been unable to find anything on the internet which tells me about these wharves and when they ceased to be worked.
Alistair Watson
I know that Duckhams oils had a wharf there because my brother Gordon worked there. There was Stevenage Wharf who dealt with timber.
Newcastle Coal and Shipping,Manbre and Garton sugar refiners a rubbish wharf and Queens Wharf by the drawdock just downstream from Hammersmith Bridge.
Hope this puts a few pieces in the puzzle for you.
Hope this helps.
Hammersmith[ ]
Albert Wharf[2]
Atlanta Wharf[2]
Beckett’s Wharf[2]
Hope Wharf[2]
(Hammersmith Bridge)
Queen’s Wharf[2]
Gwynne’s Wharf[2]
Chancellor’s Wharf[2]
Fulham and Sands End
Palace Wharf (left), Crabtree Wharf and Crabtree Drawdock, 2010
Swedish Wharf, Comley’s Wharf and Fulham Wharf, Fulham, 2006
Distillery Wharf[2] (site of Haig distillery)
site of Manbre’s sugar works (later Manbre & Garton)
Duckham’s Wharf[2] (formerly Duckham’s Motor Oil works)
Thames Wharf[2]
Dorset Wharf[2] (formerly Anglo-American Oil Company)
Tea Rose Jetty and Wharf[2]
Palace Wharf[2]
Crabree Wharf[2]
Crabtree Draw Dock[2]
Wheatsheaf Wharf
Rosebank Wharf[2]
Redline Wharf[2]
Blakes Wharves[2]
National Benzole Wharf[2]
Eternit Wharf[3]
Stevenage Wharf[2]
(Putney Bridge)
Swan Wharf[2]
Carrara Wharf[2]
Willowbank Wharf[2]
(Fulham Railway Bridge)
Broomhouse Draw Dock
Petrofina Wharf
Whiffin Wharf
Hurlingham Wharf[3] †
Trinidad Wharf[3] (former asphalt wharf)
(Wandsworth Bridge)
Thank you. Greatly appreciated. AW
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Also Durham Wharf, Chiswick Mall which is just inside the Borough boundary. A former coal wharf.
I was born and grew up in Fulham & Chiswick. I now live in the Midlands and work at ‘Compton Verney’, an Art Gallery in Warwickshire. On display there is a wonderful painting from the 1850s of The Eagle Pub on (215) Askew Road, which caught my eye. The pub still exist, now a gastro pub. I wonder if anyone has anymore information about the pub, the area, the Landlord (a James Bott), photographs, newspaper articles from this period, or could direct me to someone or somewhere that could assist. I’m happy to send you a copy of the painting. Thank you in anticipation.
One of our members or the followers of this page may have more info, perhaps a regular! We do have a book on the pubs but it may not have the detail you require. (I don’t have it to hand). The local archives at Hammersmith Library (archives@lbhf.gov.uk) will have some records of licensing and may well have the details you seek. Many pubs and notable characters are recorded in the card indexes. Do you know the artist?
https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Hammersmith/Eagle.shtml
Try this link
James Bott landlord takesAdverts in the West London observer a number of times in 1863 to inform his friends that he has taken over the lady of the lake Starch green, also known as the Eagle Tavern . the advert lists facilities and rooms that our available.see local newspaper or online search of British newspaper library
A further reference to The Eagle Tavern and the earlier Lady of the Lake pub:
The Wormholt Park Bowling Club celebrated its centenary in 1964. Prior to transferring to Wormholt Park the club had played in Ravenscourt Park since 1922 and before that behind The Eagle Tavern that stood on the Askew Road.
At the time it was thought to be the oldest bowling club in London, but an article discovered in a publication named ‘Mine Host’ claimed that the club had played on that spot since 1678, and if true would have made it the oldest club in England.
Any history regarding the house on 13 Askew Rd. My mother use to live there years ago and has demenyis trying to keep her memories alive. I can’t wait to hear anything.
Library will have voting lists for previous residents and neighbours.check out planning applications on councils website. Visit library for possible street photographs etc .
Askew Road library have a weekly coffee morning for local elderly residents. Some of the people who attend might have known your mother when she lived in Askew Road or they may be able to share memories of the area.
Hello Team,
I am trying to find out a little on streets names that may have changed. My Grandfather Joseph Owers who was an Oyster Merchant and had a shop on Praed Street in the late 1920’s to early 30’s use to live at 4 Fulham Place and 2 London Street Paddington. He died on the 17th March 1936. I have tried to see if there are any photos of his shop but have yet to come across any. I never met him as he was around 70 when he died and I was not born until the early 60’s. Any information on the streets would be lovely.
Thank you for your time and help with this.
Karen Bobbin
Hello Karen
I remember a Fulham Place which was a road leading down to the canal off of the Harrow Road . London Street is still there .
best wishes Len .
Check out this website https://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/Streets/Street_Name_Changes.htm
It’s very informative on name changes of streets etc.
Thank you so much for your response. Much appreciated. Karen
The British newspaper library has just loaded up the newspaper Ally Slopers half holiday, and it has an account of a robbery that took happened at 5 Fulham place Paddington in 1892
Hello again… it seems to be. I am trying to find photographs of the old May Street Mission Hall (Iron Church) and the John St Mission Hall. (Off Field Rd) Can anyone help please?
Hi, I’m trying to make contact… but cannot find the form. Is this it?
Hi,
Does anyone know the story behind “Nobby Swanker” who was a small horse or pony which was used to collect donations for wounded soldiers and sailors in the Fulham area during WW1. I have found a postcard published by Bijou Studios of 354 North End Road showing the animal. Any information would be welcome.
Leonard Bentley.
I am trying to find any information or photos of a ‘School of Physical Culture’ owned by Ferdinand Gruhn in Cambridge Road (now Grove, I believe) in years up to 1911. TIA
Hi Jeff,
I lived in Cambridge Grove mid 50’s
The Lime Grove Baths used to hold wrestling bouts and very popular. Sadly, pulled down.
Hi, I’m interested in Napoleonic period Volunteer Units set up by local areas around Britain in response to the threat of invasion. I recently acquired a Fulham Volunteer button which would have been a small unit and wondered if anyone had any more info on the Fulham unit probably around from 1799-1805.
Does anyone know who currently owns and/or inhabits Sandford Manor House? Also, is there a way to look inside briefly? I am fascinated to see how it has evolved through its many years. Thank you very much for the help, Sondra Thiederman
Hello Sondra
Apparently it is offices now so you could get access Good Luck .
Thanks, Len. Good suggestion, I’ll give it a try.
This is taken from the council planning applications.
“The request to vary the s.106 agreement relates to a Grade II* listed house dating from the late seventeenth century which was extensively refurbished in the 1980s. It was then intended to be used as an office as part of a scheme involving redevelopment of a large area of land south of King’s Road.
1.2 In the early 1980s the applicant acquired the premise. It is understood that at the time it was in a state of decay. The deterioration to its fabric, the collapse of the entire roof, the internal floors and the partitions left the interior fully exposed and the structural condition of the building was at risk. In October 1988 a grant was provided by English Heritage (‘London Grant’) of £27,144. At the time, English Heritage had a policy of requiring public access for buildings which had received grants, but English Heritage did not request this in this case. The public access to the premise was secured by London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham in 1986, at this time the proposed use of the property for office use. Subsequently, planning application ref: 1996/01009/FUL was approved for the use of the premise as dual office and residential. At this time it was agreed to reduce the public access to one visit a year.
2.0 CONSULTATION
2.1 Individual notification letters sent to neighbouring properties, and relevant internal and external departments have been consulted. One neighbour objection has been received, one petition containing 11 names has been received objecting to the proposal, and one objection has been received from the Fulham Society. In summary objection is raised for the following reason:
– Public access should be retained to a historic and locally interesting building, in particular given that English Heritage gave money towards it’s repair.
2.2 English Heritage: do not consider it necessary to be consulted on this application.
2.3 Urban Design and Conservation: Suggests that public access could be limited to the gardens.
3.0 PLANNING CONSIDERATIONS
3.1 Internally there is little original fabric left to justify the retention of the requirement in the s.106 agreement for the owner to provide access once a year to visitors to the interior of the property. There is a delicate balance to be struck between the desirability of public access and the privacy and security of the applicant. It is noted that the property can not been seen from the street and therefore, the Urban Design and Conservation officer suggested that public access could be limited to the gardens to allow external views of the property. However, given that the clause in question was applied to the property when it was not in residential use, and that the property has subsequently been in residential use for many years. On balance officer’s consider it unreasonable not to allow the applicant the same right of privacy that other residential owners of listed building enjoy. As such the application is to be approved.
4.0 RECOMMENDATION
4.1 Approve
Thank you so much for sending me this information. It is precisely what I needed. Although disappointing that the inside of the house is essentially gutted, at least we can be grateful it wasn’t torn down as would have been the case in my part of the world (San Diego, California). Thanks again and have a great new year.
Thankyou for your reply. I attach a further reference for our members who may be further interested.
Sandford Manor
Pages 11-16
Survey of London Monograph 8, Sandford Manor, Fulham. Originally published by Guild & School of Handicraft, London, 1907.
This free content was digitised by double rekeying and sponsored by English Heritage. All rights reserved.
Citation:
W Arthur Webb, ‘Sandford Manor’, in Survey of London Monograph 8, Sandford Manor, Fulham (London, 1907), pp. 11-16. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/bk8/pp11-16 [accessed 2 January 2018].
Just search google for survey of London Sandford manor
Attempt armed robbery at Hammersmithpalais in the late sixties,,the gang got to see inside wormwood scrubs for short time, some members of gang to young to be named.M.
I run a group 6000 plus, and a page 17500 plus on FB called hammersmith Palais old skool, I have lot of old staff and management who are members, this is the first I have ever heard of an attempted armed robbery, do you have further details, thanks
Hi, while looking at the 1951 and 1861 census I have note a place called rectory place, fulham but can’t find it on the internet. Would you beable to let me know any information about this location my family lived in.
This probably refers to Rectory Place in Parson’s Green or Parsonage Green as it was originally known. The rectory itself was demolished in the 1800s and replaced by two brick built houses and then St Dionis Church. Rectory Place became St Dionis Road, I think, which is the first turning on the left of Parson’s Green as you walk down from the New King’s Road end.
In my research I have found a family member, Charles Thurmer, listed in the 1861 Census, gardener, aged 69, lodging at 21 Rectory Place, Fulham. The head of house is a George WELLS; and in the 1881 Census Charles is lodging at the same address, with a Margaret MAIN (Head), aged 46, and Bridget MAIN, aged 12. Perhaps it was a boarding house? I will check further Census records as I can, and let you know if I find anything useful.
Hello Victoria
It could be related to All Saints Church maybe !
There was only Fulham C of E Church before the development of the market gardens into housing estates and the building of new churches on the estates, so yes it is connected to All Saints. I have a 1924 A-Z that still has St Dionis Road given as Rectory Road. Feret gives a short account of the area, including the fact that the Parsonage lands when farmed were done so by the Carthusian Monks of Shene
If you look at the enumerators notes on the first pages of the census book you can see the route followed. So although Rectory Place may not now exist surrounding roads will help pinpoint the location.
Victoria, there is a good photo of Rectory Road, and a short description of Parsons Green on the Sullivan Thomas website. The photo looks down towards parsons Green. The Mission Hall is on the left-hand side and St Dionis Church on the right. The reason the Mission Hall looks like a church is because it was built for the people to worship in before St D’s existed.
Hi. I attended Sunday School at the Mission Hall during the 1970s as a youngster, was a pupil at Holman Hunt School. I sang in choir at St. Dionis. Underneath the Mission Hall was used for a youth club. I remember visiting the vicarage with my Grandmother, the Vicar then name was Ashton.
Regards.
I am interested in any information regarding the Palace Theatre, Hammersmith, located in Kings Road. My mother (now aged 90) had her first paid job as an actress there in 1942. She held a job as an Assistant Stage Manager (ASM) for a repertory company at the tender age of 15. She has just mentioned this to me and explained that every time she’s tried to look it up online she ends up finding other Palace Theatres in other places. In the last few years she has all but lost her sight and I’d like to get her anything of interest. This site came up on my first web search and it seems like the best place to start…
Hi,
The Hammersmith Palace at 82 Kings Road is one of several local theatres listed on the Arthur Lloyd website.
http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Hammersmith.htm
Was Kings Road what is now Kings Street?
Just read your link and see that it was indeed King Street. What an amazing building!
Yes, I’ve seen the Arthur Lloyd page and it was very interesting. I also found a detailed map from 1901 that has far more information than you usually see. Have a look at this;
http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlineex/firemaps/england/london/atoc/mapsu145ubu23uauf025r.html
I would like to learn more about the original architecture of the Hunts Paper Factory in Atalanta Street, and the history of the building. I would like to find historical photographs of the site and of the people who worked there.
Does anyone know where the Fulham Warship Week Pageant was held in Aoril 1942 or was it a procession?
The people of Fulham in Fulham warship week raised £935,000 on a £700,000 target for HMS relentless. A mockup of part of relentless was constructed at Fulham Broadway/Waltham green to act as a focal point for bands and the events. The British newspaper library have the Fulham local papers on line,And has numerous articles on the events including the election of a beauty queen to visit fundraising events organised by other societies through out Fulham.
Thank you for that historyaschurchfulham. Much appreciated.
Dear Sir /Madam
I would like to know details of previous occupants in last 25 years of house no 20, everington street , london W68DU
particularly if they were any deaths of occupants while staying in this house , in last 25 years
please note this is urgent matter
IF this is an urgent matter then you go to the archive at Hammersmith Library or you should write to archives@lbhf.gov.uk and make your request. The only public source of such information is the electoral register. An alternative is 192.com which may use other sources for which you will have to pay.
Good luck
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Has anyone done any research on the names on the WW1 brass memorial plaque that is inside St Luke’s Church on the Uxbridge Road, Shepherds Bush. And also the names on the four WW2 stone memorial tablets that are mounted on the exterior wall?
There are no documents held at Archives and minimal information on the Imperial war Museum records.
The church has been rebuilt. It’s just possible that this set of papers at LMA may mention them, in regards to resisting them
‘Correpondence re: demolition and rebuilding of New St Luke’s’
Reference CodeP80/LUK/E/01/01/003
LevelFileDate1973 – 1976
From Collection SAINT LUKE, SHEPHERDS BUSH: UXBRIDGE ROAD, HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM
The church of Saint Luke was built in 1871 and later rebuilt in 1976. The parish was created in 1872, with Saint Mary Stamford Brook splitting from it in 1888, followed by North Hammersmith in 1922.
Hi. Have you please, any information concerning the later life, and death, of Walter White who signed for Fulham, from Everton, in 1910. He lived, I believe, at Danefield Street. We would dearly like to know if he had a last resting place. Yours sincerely, Tony Onslow, Everton FC, Heritage Society.
Hi Probably France ww1, like a lot of sportsmen of that time.Check his name on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site.
Regards
Andy Pugh
Hi,
I am happy I found you. I need details about a person who lives in Fulham.
Do you give details regarding a particular person and their background. If not what is the best source to get information about individual living in UK.
Thanks
Spn
Try 192.com
Hi
I am looking for a marriage for an Alfred Martin and Catherine f Brereton in the Fulham area in 1885/6. And any further info on them Alfred was a Tailor originally from Leicestershire.
I need to find out what lorry haulage companies were in Fulham in 1909-10. Aviation pioneer Geoffrey de Havilland used one after he built his first two airplanes in a rented garage in Bothwell Street, Fulham and took them to Highclere Castle (where TVs ‘Downton Abbey’ was filmed) for flight trials. Does anyone know of any newspaper articles or trade magazines from the period I could have sight of?
Paul
The LBHF archives have copies of directories from the time that will give you a list of haulage businesses in the area. They also have the local papers West London Observer and Fulham Chronicle on Microfiche. However searching either of these is likely to be worse than the proverbial needle in a haystack if you don’t have a precise date. It may be more productive to go to the British Library and use their national and local newspaper archive to get some dates; they will also have an impressive array of directories. You could try emailing the LBHF archive and asking for their help they may have something on a card index but they don’t have the resources to undertake a broad search of microfiche or directories.
Good luck
Paul
I have a number of photos showing lorries with plane fuselages, etc. taken in and around Blake Wharves in Stevenage Road, Fulham.
One lorry is a Blakes Wharves lorry and another is Coulson & Co lorry from Coronation Road, Park Royal.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Peter
J.O’Connor was a large haulage contractor at 40-42 Disbrowe Road. Haulage could still have been by horse it the 1920;s. However from 1906/7 to 1920-1, they were listed as greengrocers and later firewood dealers. Warring and sons(later Warring and Gillow) who later made the De Haviland bodies at Cambridge Grove were on rate books in 1899..might they have helped. By 1932 De Haviland were using Blakes Wharves (Stevenage Road) to pack and ship their planes.
Most transport companies come under Furniture removals and depositories, besides the big ones, like Harrods, or Maples,there is one really only one local in the category, a small firm by name of John Masurier, 1, Vanston Place Fulham in 1902 Kellys PO London
Further to the above the archives have a card index quoting his Obituary and there are a number of books that mention his early aircraft built here all of which you have probably seen:
British Aircraft 1809-1914 by Peter Lewis
The First to Fly by Sherwood Harris
Planemakers 3 – DeHavilland Philip Birtles ISBN 0710603037
I can find nothing of use in the directories of that time. Would he have had connections with motor companies such as Iris that worked on his second aircraft tha probably had their own transport.
Good luck
I have a number of photos of Blakes Wharves in Stevenage Road, Fulham, showing lorries with fuselages, etc., on them. One lorry is a Blakes Wharves lorry and another is Coulson & Co Ltd lorry from Coronation Road, Park royal.
Hello, Paul,
Can’t help you on real ones, but one of the most famous fictional ones was the Bindle series, set roughly at that time. He was a cheery rogue who worked for a removals company in Dawes Road, and was always pulling a fast one on the Boss: for example, he would take his load of furniture on a detour to the Races or the sea-side, and only just get back in time before he was caught. That sort of thing. The series was very popular, and according to my grandmother everyone in Fulham knew it or knew of it; a removals man was called a Bindle, after him. They had them in the Library in Clem Atlee Court when I was nobbut a little nipper (so, fairly recently) and they’re worth a look. I forget the author, naturally.
The library in the Clem Attlee Estate has been closed for many years. Now an office for traffic wardens.
Dick,
The author was Herbert Jenkins and Bindle (One of them days) was a short film released in 1966 as a pilot for a TV series which I don’t think took off. Most of the filming was done at Merton Park Studios, Merton, just off Kingston Road.
Thanks, Mark,
He’s also on-line; I took a look, and found myself finishing the chapter! It’s really good stuff.
D
Paul , I have been researching the Highclere area for some time and the papers I found that cover the area and time are at the british library news room on line there. The papers that seem to cover that area is the Reading Mercury and the Hampshire Chronicle but as mentioned before you need a fair idea of the month and year and week if possible . It’s then hard working looking through to find an article once you have mastered the art of the computer process.
Good luck
Brian
Hi, my great grandparents also lived at 100 Rayleigh Road Thomas and Emily Bonner (nee Preece formerly Clarke) in 1933. And I have two sets of grandparents (Bonners as mentioned) and Richardson who lived at 93 and 95 Rayleigh Road from 1901 up to the 1940s.
Hi, I am trying to research my great grandfather Albert Ernest Richardson. In 1904 his son, my uncle, was married at Holy Innocents Church, parish of Hammersmith. The home address of the groom is listed as Byron Villa, Sterne Street (it’s hard to read the writing but I’m pretty certain) but I cannot find any evidence of this address in the area. Can anyone shed any light on the address? Albert’s profession is noted as a hotel manager. He was born abt 1877 apparently in “Somersetshire and Hammersmith” noted on one document I’ve found but this doesn’t make sense. His father was also Albert E Richardson.
In addition to this, I am looking for anyone who knew of the Bonner family in Rayleigh Road; Richardson family in Rayleigh Road; Comber family in Swanscombe Road. George Comber my 2 x gt grandfather was a police constable and lived in Swanscombe Road in 1895.
Thanks.
My father was born at 100 Rayleigh Road in 1920. His sister May was born there in 1929.I have been trying to track where my father went after this, he told me he was put into a home but not much else. My Grandmother ended up in Surrey where she had another son born in 1932 but with a different father to my dad’s. It would seem that she left Rayleigh road but I don’t know when. Their surname was Smith so probably not related but it’s a little bit more information.
Hi Kay, thanks for your reply. That’s really interesting; my grandmother was born at 100 Rayleigh Road in 1920! Your gt g-parents and my gt g-parents must have known each other. They – and my other set of gt g-parents – remained in Rayleigh Road until the 60s as far as I know. At nos 93 and 95. I hope you can find the details you are looking for. I guess a surname like Smith makes things a little more difficult!
Hi, Sterne St is near Caxton Rd in Hammersmith. The Wormholt Ward of the Electoral Register does not show a Byron Villa and does not have a Richardson but his was before everyone voted.
Go to the census for the addresses you have. Most public libraries will have Ancestry or Find My Past freely available or you can subscribe or use ‘free BMD’ online.
Hi John – thank you for your help. I have found a census with Byron Villa, Sterne Street now (1901) sadly my great grandfather can’t have lived there yet so I am no further back with any records of him. Perhaps being a manager of a hotel he was present there during 1901 but unfortunately I do not know where to begin with this.
I I’m trying to find an archive picture of myself ANGELA Pirolli in 1987 or 1988 a picture of me in the Hammersmith newspaper I think in reference to Bob Monkhouse opportunity knocks on the article it called me a bubbly bath tub singer I was wondering if you could help me how I could try and find a copy of this picture and a copy of the actual article thank you
Angela,
British library Euston News room and search through the rolls of film on line there for the year,month,week papers of that area.
Brian
Hello there all – I am looking for any available info. on the former Sunlight laundry building on Peterborough Road (near to Clancarty Road) in Parsons Green. Does anyone know when it was built or have any information about its history (it is now a recording studio)?
Kind Regards
Adrian
Don’t forget the Classic cinema in King Street & the Broadway cinema on the Broadway in Hammersmith.
The Civic Company Ltd of London was formed in 1921 out of the Imperial Tobacco Co. (Fancy Goods Department) Ltd which was located in Fulham Palace Road Hammersmith. The Imperial
(The Pipe Factory) Between Guiness Buildings and Yeldham Road
Dear FHHS,
I wonder if you please help me out with a question?
I was looking at a 1940s map of the Sand’s End area of Fulham and next to the gas works on Imperial Road is marked a place called Stephendales Works (which is now Maltings Place).
From the tiny amount of information I can find on Google this was the factory of a company which made wallpaper.
Would you happen to know when their factory was demolished, and am I correct in thinking the site remained empty until the construction of the Maltings Place redevelopment?
Thank you for your help,
Might have been a site for the Drayton Papers works group, which had a few sites in the area and made a lot of paper and paper printed products. Toilet rolls, paper bags etc plain or printed. Founded in 19th century, they closed their Sulivan Rd works about 1986.
I understand a large number of Belgian refugees were settled in Fulham during World War 1 and that at one stage there were riots and other disturbances against their presence. Can anyone please point me to any work that’s been done on this – articles or books. Many thanks
Martin White
Dear Martin,
A very brief and unhelpful snippet. My grandfather, Albert Hunt, lived at 7, Racton Road from before WWII. At some time he rented the upper floors to a Belgian family, Horace and Melia King. I think they were from Bruges. They had two daughters, Michelle and Simone, and left Fulham in 1957. Horace was a friend of my grandfather from Passchendaele; I never heard of any bad feeling towards them, though I often heard them speaking French in public — which nowadays would get you lynched, in some places!
Dear Martin
Although not specific to Fulham, there is an interesting pamphlet from 1917 that has been digitalsied online https://archive.org/details/conditionofbelgi00unse
One of the refugees, a Belgian artist called Paul van de Kerckhove, lived for a while with my great grandfather at Hurlingham Road, sculpting a bust of my great great aunt which was exhibited at the Royal; Academy in 1917.
Hi Martin,
Funny enough I’m a Masters student at Royal Holloway and am currently researching the Fulham Riot of 1916. There isn’t a lot of secondary work other than brief mentions but I have found some documents/correspondence at the National Archives. Have you had much luck?
Rebecca Masterson
Can find no reference in the card index to any unrest but there are photographs of the Earls Court Exhibition Centre set up to receive refugees. The archive will hold local papers but without a date to search on it would be impossible. Try starting at the British Library or the Imperial War Museum.
Thank you all for your help and Happy New Year. The origin of my interest is my great-grandmother’s taking in of a mother and child (called Emily, or Emilie maybe) to her home in Jervis Road some time in the Great War. I found out that many Belgian refugees were located in the Fulham area and that there had been some popular resentment in the form of riots. I don’t know anything else and was hoping for a shortcut to finding out what it must have been like at the time for the refugees. It seems I must go to the primary sources.
Incidentally, my great-grandmother was a widow who had been married to a German – she was therefore categorised as an enemy alien and had to report to the local police station regularly despite the fact that she had three sons in the British Army and was looking after refugees …
Hello,
I am wondering if someone may be able to provide any information regarding my relative Harriet Shadrach Jones born circa 1882 in Liverpool?
Apparently she worked at Hammersmith Hospital during WW2 as a nurse & received an Imperial honour for her service.
I cannot find any record to validate this family story.
I believe she died some time after 1958.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards
Mary – Great Niece
I am looking for the marriage of William Henry Napier and Julia Harriet Farrow c 1858 in Fulham, Middlesex. Search of the marriage index from 1857 is negative. This is what I have found :
A William Henry Napper was born 29 May 1840, Ide, Devonshire – Mother Ann Napper. Appears to be illegitimate.
In the 1851 census there is a William Napper living with William & Harriet Clint in the Gardners Cottage, North End Villa, Fulham, Middlesex. Harriet is a sister to Ann. William Clint was the gardner to James Wild.
James Wild founded the Ebenezer Chapel on North End Road in 1842.
Are the William’s the same person?
Could they have been married in the Ebenezer Chapel?
William and Harriet Napier migrated to New Zealand in 1874.
Its hard to tell if they are the same especially if the name change was unofficial. We looked on freeBMD but could not find either name. Does the TNA emigration info give you any help? http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/emigration/ Good luck.
Does anyone know where King’s Terrace was/is? At the time of my great grandparents marriage at St James’s Church, Maxwell Road, Fulham, they were living at 19 King’s Terrace, King’s Road; it would be good to see what it looked like! Jane Gould
Jane,
King’s Terrace shows on the 1891 Census but not on those of 1881 or 1901.Strangely enough it does show on the 1861 Census and 1871 Census. It also doesn’t appear on Booth’s London Poverty Maps of 1898. On the 1891 Census listing, King’s Terrace appears after Waterford Road and before Harwood Terrace so was probably somewhere close to the two and also close to Maxwell Road, though I haven’t been able to find proof on a map.
The 1861 Census has no entries against numbers 19, 20 and 21 for some reason but number 22 is showing as the Hand and Flower Public House which confirms that it was the last building in the road at the King’s Road end. It is now classed as being at 617, King’s Road but part of it sits in Edith Row as it is actually on the corner of Edith Row and King’s Road. Edith Row runs parallel with Waterford Road. I think we can now assume that Edith Row was, once upon a time, Harwood Terrace.
On both the 1861 and 1871 Census there are more houses
in King’s Terrace than on the 1891 Census. In 1871 their were two families living at number 19 and a couple of lodgers. The Heads of the families at number 19 were both women, Rachel Pickering and Jane Dinham.
You don’t say when your great grandparents were married but the 1891 Census doesn’t go as far up as number 19 King’s Terrace. In fact it only shows a number 4 in which there seems to be six families living – Ransom, Spurrier, Webb, Whorne, Piggott and Carden.
Hi Mark. What a lovely surprise for a Monday morning! Many thanks for all the information. The great grandparents Richard May and Ann Card were married in St James’s church on 21 October 1876, and were both living at 19 King’s Terrace at the time. He was an itinerant dockyard worker for most of his life. I shall revisit the 1871 census and see if I can find them or at least the building they were living in. Again. Many thanks! Jane
Hi. I am trying to get details on crime in the area between the mid 1950s and ’60s. In particular, prosecutions around soliciting/prostitution. I am also interested in detail on businesses and families who ran them. I am also interested in anything that refers to attitudes to life, sex etc, the normal experience of working people and the elite. Any suggestions gratefully received. Andy
Looking for a person living in Ongar Road London in 1966/7 her name is Carole Ann Good, this is for Family History purposes only ,any help would be appreciated thank you Ann Thirsk
I attended Saunders Grove Primary School, Swanscombe Road, from 1947 until 1953. I sat the 11 Plus exam and obtained a Central grade , I had no idea what that meant other than to say I was one of the first pupils to attend the newly formed Christopher Wren Comprehensive School, which as its own building was still under construction in Bloemfontein Road, this initially meant little change in where I went to school, as we occupied the first floor level of the Saunders Grove building. Until I was about 13, I changed school location twice until the new building was complete. In the 2nd year went to The Fox School in Nottinghill Gate and then to a School in Fulham Palace Road, in the 3rd year. Finally, in the fourth year, we moved to the new Wren building along with 4th years from Hammersmith County School for boys, this would have been in about 1956, where I stayed until 1960, having obtained some GCE’s and completed a years “A” level work, without sitting the exam.
I hope some if this is of use, please contact me again but at age 75, some of the details are growing dim
Hi Peter,
Your post was interesting to me. I too went to Christopher Wren. I did not pass the 11 plus so had to go to a Secondary Modern School, St Marks Colledge School. It was then opposite Chelsea FC at Stamford Bridge but some time after moved to Bishops Park. I was there for two years and then got the opportunity to go to Christopher Wren in 1953. At that time Christopher Wren was not a Comprehensive but was a Secondary Technical School for boys which taught building crafts and art. It was then situated on two sites; one was in Shepherds Bush and the other in Notting Hill Gate. I never went to Bloemfontein Road as I left in summer1956 just a term before the move. I did, however, some years after teach for a brief period at Bloemfontein Road working alongside some of my old craft teachers.
I am a couple of years older than you so my memory too has some gaps. We must have both known some of those old teachers.
Regards,
Brian Pearce
Dear FHHS,
I have an odd one for you, which I hope you’ll find interesting.
My mother took me to school for the first time on 30 September 1956, to Brook Green School. When she got there she found they had closed the place down. So she took me instead to Avonmore, where they accepted me, if reluctantly.
I got interested in this school, and looked it up. It was there, all right, and closed on the date she said; but it turned out to be a special school for the physically disabled. Since I’m not, and wasn’t then, this struck me as odd with a capital strange.
About seven years ago I moved to Devon, and by chance there was a retired copper in the village who had been stationed at Hammersmith most of his working life. He remembered Brook Green School; but he was convinced it was the French School in London.
Given I wasn’t even five at the time I can’t argue with either of them, so I’m hoping you will be able to help me. We were living at the time at 21 Argyle Mansions, which is as you know barely 300 yards from the site of the school; but that’s the only fact I can attest from my own experience.
I bet even Tiny Foulsham can’t solve this one!
Best wishes,
(Dr) Dick Collins,
Crediton,
Devon
I don’t think it was the French school. There was (and maybe still is?) a feeder school for the French Lycée (South Kensington) in Fulham.
Hello, (Dr) Dick.Pleased to know you’re still around. Much as I’d love to leap upon your challenge, I haven’t been in the best of health for a while now so will try to delve for answers very slowly. Nazareth House stands at 169/175, Hammersmith Road. Set up by Catholic nuns, it was once a home for crippled and/or ‘incurable’ children and continued to work with children until 1981 It is now a care home for the elderly. Perhaps there’s a connection with Brook House School. I’ll take a closer look.
All the best,
Tiny.
Thanks, O finest of Foulshams, and good to hear from you. Less good to hear you’re in poor health: hope it’s something surmountable! To plough on: there was definitely a school that closed on 30 September 1956; I’m not sure there was a connection with nuns. The odd point is that it was for children of ‘normal’ intellectual development, but physical disability. That’s odd. The preparatory school (so to speak) for the French school is another possibility, though why I would go to that is another conundrum. Anyway, do whatever it is you do to feel better. Questions don’t go away, though illnesses hopefully do.
Best wishes,
Dick
I believe my ancestors may have owned a dairy in Fulham and wonder if your society has any knowledge of farms in Fulham? The family name is Coomer and I know there are a Coomer Rd and a Coomer Place.
Yours sincerely
Elizabeth Nowosad
Hello Elizabeth – I have some info about Coomer in Fulham, but I think too much to post here? (newspaper articles, census entries). No dairies, but market gardeners and a property owner; a scandal … How may I send it to you – will you see my e-address?
Dear Elizabeth,
My grandmother was a Coomer. Can I ask what your connection is?
Sadly the email used is no longer active. Ironically the lady is also from Australia.
All the best
Hi there,
I was going through some of my late father’s things and came across an old home barber kit inside was a handwritten postcard from J.D Swain limited, Goldhawk Road, London W12 no date on. I can’t find any information on it any advice ???
Regards
Jo.
Hello,
I am trying to establish where / if Richard Silverwood is commemorated in Fulham.
He was living in the area at the time with his wife and family – I cant find him in his home town of Bradford.
Air Mechanic 2nd Class Royal Flying Corps died 03 03 1917 at Aldershot.
Best Regards
Dean
If you know where the family was living he may have been a churchgoer and could be recorded on a church memorial. I would think that archives have lists if all those recorded on the boroughs war memorials
Many thanks
Dean
Do you have the forces war records for him. His number was 14901?
Yes, I believe I have everything there is is on him that there is on him.
Just trying to locate where/if he is remembered 🙏
Dean
Hello Dean
COMMONWEALTH WAR GRAVES COMMISSION
https://www.cwgc.org/search-results?term=richard%2Bsilverwood&name=richard%2Bsilverwood&fullname=richard%2Bsilverwood
I am researching my 3 x gt grandfather, Abraham Smith who was a baker in King Street, Hammersmith and Chiswick (?1794 onwards). He had several sons who also became Master Bakers.
Abraham owned the Ebenezer Chapel and vestry rooms in King Street and several other properties in close vicinity. He died a wealthy man in 1846 and left a Will but is wife Eleanor died in 1850 and didn’t leave a Will, as far as I can tell.
In the early 1850’s there was a dispute in the family leading to George Smith, one of his sons and my gt grandfather x 2, taking some/all of his siblings and members of the Self family
(ex-business partners) to Court. The case ended up in the High Court of Chancery (I haven’t had time to look at the papers for this yet but they are lodged at TNA). George is shown in the following census, 1861, as a ‘gardener.’ I am looking for any information on this family and their business in King Street and Chiswick.
Any help in my research would be appreciated.
Jacqueline Day
Would suggest that you visit the Hammersmith and Hounslow local archives/history departments or email them with specific names. Don’t forget to search the online records of British newspaper Library as well
Been there done that!
Jacqueline Day
Many thanks
I will do
Thank you
Dean
Hello, I am inquiring if anyone knows of Ongar Road, Fulham.Hoping to find Electoral registers for the dates1963 to 1968. Thankyou
Hi, these will all be available in the LBHF Archive on the first floor of Hammersmith Library on Shepherd’s Bush Road near the tube and bus stations. if you are a long way from London then you could email the Archivist and spell out exactly what you want to know. You could also try Ancestry.co.uk either by subscribing or going to your local library. This link gives details.
Good Luck
Sorry it should read
The Berendsen Group
I’m researching the Sunlight Laundry in Sands End Fulham to see if there is any link with the Lever Brothers and Port Sunlight – the model village in Merseyside. I know that Sunlight was a brand of soap but does anyone know if there was direct ownership by the Lever (latterly Unilever) company?
Many thanks
Clare C
Hello Clare
Personally i don’t think there was any connection between the two.
The Sunlight laundry founded in 1900 merged with Loud and Western in 1928 creating Sunlight and Western
They are now part of the Bresenden Group
I hope this helps
Regards Len.
Dear Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society, I’m currently researching my family tree and found a William Ellis Porrett on the 1901 census. He was working/Living on Bridge street as a shoemaker and boot maker and wondered if any information is available with it been his own business? Any help would be very grateful.
Regards
A Bulman
Staff nurse Janet mews was nursing me at St Stephens hospital London and may have been promoted to sister
Would anybody be able help me. I am researching my family tree and am keen to find out more about my 2x great-grandfather who was born in Fulham in 1858. His name was John Banham Fox and he appears to have been illegitimate. His mother’s name was Eliza Ann Fox and at the time of his birth (28th May 1858) and also his baptism (16th July 1858) they were living at 3, Ebenezer Place, North End. I am not sure of the father’s name and can find no definite record of John Banham or Eliza Ann in the 1861 and 1871 censuses. I have found a possible match in 1871 at 9, Star Place, North End with a family called Chipperton (in the 1861 census a Charles Chipperton is there instead of John Fox).. Would there be any records of a possible “adoption” – although I know this wasn’t done in an official way at this time? John Banham married a Selina Ellen Veatcher in 1889 and went on to have 11 surviving children, one of whom was Edith Phoebe Fox, my gt grandmother. I would love to find out more about this particular ancestor’s early life and would be grateful if someone could point me in the right direction.
With thanks
Stella.
I was born in 93 Greyhound Road fulham in 1946. Lived there in 1 room with my mother Kathleen .Anton till 1955. The Butler family lived on the ground floor. Ernie was a rag a bone man. Anyone know where they went.
Are coroner’s inquest records available for Fulham for the late 19th century and if so, where? Trying to source details of the death of twin infants (aged about 6 weeks – Martha & Bertie Anderton) who died February 1897; death certificates indicate that there was a coroner’s inquest and that the cause of death was “Found dead, Asphyxia, want of fresh air while in bed with mother and another child. Accidental”. What a tragedy!
I was looking for an inquest report from June 1895 but was unsuccessful. However, the local papers included quite a lot of detail so it’s worth looking there too.
Records could have beendestroyed check out what the following website has to say about Coroners records
https://www.genguide.co.uk/source/coroner-inquest-records-crime-amp-courts/99/
I lived in langford road for several years from aprox 1947, my dad had a baker shop there
Hello,
I am trying to find out the dates as in year and roads that the first mosque and synagogue were built or opened in Shepherd’s Bush.
Names of them if possible.
Would you know of anywhere I could find out this information from please, or know the answers?
Dan
abrahamsdan390@gmail.com
Hi Dan, If you are local then a visit to the Hammersmith Library, Archives on the first floor will likely have some records. There will also be directories, maps and photographs of items of interest as well as the local papers. But no doubt the faith communities themselves will have some information.
Good luck
Hello all
What a great website! Hope you can help. I am trying to trace the property history of 17 rosaline road. I found it in the 1891 & 1901 census but not in the 1911. I was told it could have been a dress makers at some point but cant find any info on this. Any info would be gratefully received
Tracy
Voters list will have residents. File of Kelly post office London directory,or local Kelly’s directory should help. Check if local history library still has these. Recently I have noticed a lot of sequences out of correct sequence in Hammersmith so make sure volumes are in date order before checking for details.
Hello there, is this thread still active?
I have just spoken to someone at the Archives and Local studies centre for Hammersmith and Fulham – does this group work with the same historians? I am looking to find any information possible on ‘The Hungry Horse’ restaurant that was run by Bill Staughton in 1970s and used to be located on 196 Fulham Road. Does anyone have any information, pictures, names of people that worked there? I am working on a television programme and would love to hear more if any of you are able to help.
Many thanks in advance,
Rosanna
Hi, Hopefully someone reading this will remember the restaurant.
However for photographs it may be better to get intouch with Kensington and Chelsea archives http://www.rbkc.gov.uk/libraries/local-studies-and-archives. Their planning site shows some alterations to the buildings so there may be more details if you browse there. Likewise they would have local papers on microfiche and local directories that could narrow down the time period.
Good luck.
Some of the people connected with the local history groups and societies may indeed help out as volunteers at the archives, but would only slowly develop knowledge of the materials available, If you put the mouse arrow on the picture logos by the side of the entries you may find a brief explanation about that contributor.
Hi there, After several conversations with my father I am trying to narrow down when my mother lived in Ongar Road Flats. Her name was Carole Ann Good. My dad met her in 1967 when he was in the Navy, at the time he was in the Feild Gun at Earls Court.
The reason for the nature of the enquiry is that she had a son whom she had adopted at an age im an unsure of as of yet. She also lived in New Zealand before coming back to London. So dates of when she lived in Ongar Road may help with my research. Apparently she shared her flat on ongar road with 2 other female friends too.
Thanks
Tracey Raw
Check voters lists at Hammersmith library.
I am trying to trace my paternal mother’s family tree.
Her name was Elsie May Kinton from Fulham.
Her father’s name was George.
Elsie was born around 1916 .
She went on to marry Charles Edward Howard also from Fulham.
They had 3 children Brian Joan (Pauline) and Richard (Colin) my father.
They migrated to Australia in the early 70’s.
Any info on the family will be highly greatful, as I’m the oldest living blood female in my family and have been for the last 20 yrs (I’m 45)
Thank u
Do you have any details of the funeral obituary or any other details of James Henry Bird Nurseryman/ Florist born Little Missenden Bucks England abt 1814/1815. Died 31/08/1884 Hammersmith Mansion House Road..
If you check the British Newspaper online resources you will find references to James Henry Bird in the press across the country, not all entries use full name. Most relate to his will. James Bird may be used for nurseryman entries. Might he have been related to the other Bird family in Hammersmith who were builders,but some had stables and ploughs. (See also latest newsletter) Bird is not mentioned in west London nursery gardens.
Many thanks for that information. I have already copies of Newspaper article and copy of his will. He never mentions any children in his will so am assuming they had no living heirs. It mentions Stoke Newington in a horticultural gazette about a nursery. I live in Buckinghamshire and am chief grandchild minder so don’t get chance to get out much. Many thanks.
Jacqueline Cobb
A friend of mine has a small “Mcquillan cup” for services to Eel Brook Athletic Football Club and I’m trying to research both the cup and the club. Can you help please. J.St Pier.
Hello,
I am the great-great-great granddaughter of Emily & Sidney MacBriar Tisdall who owned a sucessful Dyer & Furriers business based in 32 Goldhawk Road in the late 1800’s. They were still thriving well into into the first decade of the 20th century and during the First World War. One of their Daughters – Madeline To stall became a music hall dancer / actress in the early 1900’s and joined a touring Theatre Company that went to Holland & Ireland during WW1. I have copies of private photographs / letters and have done extensive family history research which you may be interested in as it gives some insight into typical Victorian & Edwardian life in the area for people who were in trade. I would love to be able to find out even more about the Tisdall family & their business at 32 Goldhawk Road from any records or newspaper archives you may have access to.
If there is any way you or anyone else can help me I would be happy to share the Information / documents / photographs I already have with local historians.
Kind Regards
Christine Hamlin
Hello Christine – I’m a TILBURY, as (I’m sure you know) was your Emily (m. TISDALL). I have a website mostly on T families b. UK, including Emily’s:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/1818_james_tilbury.html
Emily’s son Sidney was with gf James T (b. Midhurst, Sussex) in 1881.
Perhaps it’s something in the genes – I went to ballet school and toured on the international variety circuit!!!
My good wishes – Caroline
Can you give me the origin of the name Coverdale Rd in Shepherds Bush, and the connection with Miles Coverdale after whom the primary school is named? With thanks
I am trying to trace my grandfather who was born in London in March 1870 or thereabouts,ie Richard Hodges. I discovered an old
letter sent to him by his mother, Jessie Hodges who resided at 5 Argyle Place, London WC. I imagine that this would be an area of large terrace houses as she appeared to have rented a room . No date on the letter but it would have been around 1890. I cannot trace her either as there is no record on the census. Any help or small detail would be greatly appreciated. No record of my grandfather’s birth at Somerset House. I hope you can assist.
Patricia Neill.
Hello Patricia
Please could we have details of your mother and father, full name, birth, birth location to go back to your grandparents. Unable to find suitable Richards and Jessies – the only Jessie Hodges I found born 1850 appeared not to have children. Not found a mother Jessie and son Richard together in the censuses.
Thanks
Otherwise found very strange census, was letter from Jessie definitely Richard’s mother or a family member?
1881 CENSUS
Household Members
Harriett Hamilton Head 37
Jessie Hamilton Daughter 8
Alfred J. Hamilton Son 5
Mabel Hamilton Son 2
Henry Hamilton Brother In Law 22
James J. Arkell Brother 35
Thos. Scholes Brother In Law 54
Clara Scholes Sister In Law 42
James Hodges Son born Persia 10
Richard Hodges Son born Persia 9
Mary Clara Scholes Daughter 6
Living in St Pancras, Somers Town
Hello,
Was wondering as to whether anyone can help me regarding my grandad and how he died. His name was Henry C. Vine and died in 1949 due to a train accident.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Hello Pauly
RAIL ACCIDENTS
February 19, 1949 Freight train becomes divided at New Southgate, Middlesex, rear part runs away, but is not derailed at catch points due to signalman’s error, wagons enter main line and are run into by a parcels train.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_on_British_Rail
Your grandad Henry C Vine died in the Jan-Feb-Mar quarter 1949
Rail Accident Investigation
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/rail-accident-investigation-branch
Might know where report is stored
National Railway Museum
https://www.railwaymuseum.org.uk/
Contact about 1949 accident
Hello Pauly
1949 DEATH
Name: Henry C Vine
Death Age: 44
Date: Jan 1949
Area: Hammersmith, London
RAIL ACCIDENTS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_on_British_Rail
https://www.revolvy.com/page/List-of-rail-accidents-%281930%E2%80%931949%29?cr=1
February 19, 1949 Freight train becomes divided at New Southgate, Middlesex, rear part runs away, but is not derailed at catch points due to a signalman’s error, wagons enter main line and are run into by a parcels train
Your grandad Henry C Vine died in the Jan-Feb-Mar quarter 1949
but just noticed death was registered in January, although this might be an error
Rail Accident Investigations
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/rail-accident-investigation-branch
Might know where report is stored
National Railway Museum
https://www.railwaymuseum.org.uk/
Contact about 1949 accident
I have been doing some research on the London Olympic Games of 1908. As part of this, I have been trying to establish the origins of Bloemfontein Road. The LCC became the statutory authority for street names in 1894.
This document (London County Council (1901) List of Streets and Places, Administrator, County of London) reveals that Bloemfontein Road was founded in 1881, as was Bloemfontein Villas.
I had assumed it was named in relation to the Boer War, but this is clearly not the case. So my question is – why was it called Bloemfontein Road? Any suggestions as to how I can find out, would be very welcome. You can email me at garry.whannel@me.com
Hi, I’ve been recently told a story from my grandmother about an old friend of her, from back in the seventies, I would like to find more about this girl, since my grandmother’s memory is a bit faded. All I know is, that my granny had a friend, called Mary, who used to live in hammersmith and was involved with graphic arts and doing something (of which my gran is not sure) on movie sets. Long story short, this Mary, at the time knew quite a few famous actors, but apparently she dies young due a car accident. As my gran remembered this friend very dearly, I was hoping to get some informations about this person, and maybe find where her grave is. Any kind of information is appreciated. Thank you very much
Hi – I’ve just bought a vintage Percy Champion bike frame, and am looking for info on the builder – Percy Ellis & Co, 360-4 Lillie Road, Fulham. The firm was established in (I think) 1895, & closed down around 1953. Any help would be much appreciated! Cheers, Bob
There Are a couple of references in papers held by the British library newspaper archive, one dating from 1904 refering to the 11th hairdressers Athletics and cycle club annual games held at the Putney velodrome before 10,000 spectators in which Percy Ellis of the Fulham wheelers came second,and an advent The West London observer many years later stating that the firm was the only dealer In Fulham for Goblin appliances. There may be more adverts in this paper over the time period. Archives may have some pictures.
My wife’s Grandfather was Syd Gibbons, who played for Fulham between 1930 and 1938, he then moved onto Worcester City
He returned to Fulham as a scout we believe around 1950, he also bought a newsagents in 277 Putney Bridge Road, which he ran until his death in 1953. We are trying to find out any details about the shop, name or any storeys people may have about Syd and his family during the early 1950’s..
I asked my nephew who is a great Fulham fan and he said Mumford was nicknamed Carnera after the boxer Primo Carnera because of his size, he also said he has quite a listing on Wikipedia, though you may be aware of this. Hope this helps.
Geoffrey, thank you for your interest, I am aware of the Wikipedia information, I wrote it. Regards Neil
I am doing research on a friend’s genealogy (we live in Canada) and we are wondering if there is access to newspapers from Fulham/Hammersmith from 1900 that may explain the deaths of a married couple. It appears that my friend’s 2nd great aunt (Helen Elizabeth Trask nee Vine) and her husband (Jesse Trask) both died about April-May-June 1900. They would have been 38 and 42 years old respectively. This so young and there must be a story to this (accident perhaps?). I cannot find any details other than the civil registration of their deaths. Any suggestions? Thank you.
Hi, Local newspapers are held on microfiche at the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham Archive at the Hammersmith Library. If you contact them at archives@lbhf.gov.uk giving all the details and dates you know including any addresses it may be that there is an article or inquest report.
Good luck
Hello Carolyn
1891 CENSUS
61 Iffley Road
Jesse Trask is a butcher
Elizabeth Trask is a dressmaker
Living in Hammersmtih with mother Martha Vine and siblings
James Vine brother dies in 1904
1896 WEST LONDON OBSERVER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/18960613/162/0008
16 year old needed for housework at 61 Iffley Road
Is the family still at this address and struggling with day to day housework due to ill health
1900 DEATH
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
You will need to order their death certificates, could be any number of reasons dying close together, might not be on the same day, they died in same quarter so could be from disease epidemic or tuberculosis
Jesse Trask
Elizabeth Trask
LONDON COUNTY COUNCIL 1904
[REPORT OF THE MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH FOR LONDON COUNTY COUNCIL]
https://wellcomelibrary.org/moh/report/b18252539/26#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=26
Also talks about disease before 1904
Our ancestor Edward Leslie Court born in Fulham 1905 emigrated to Canada in 1926 (as mentioned in this blog and his theatrical family). Edward’s records disappear in Canada, we may have Canadian relatives now.
We are residents of one of the row of listed Georgian terraced houses, opposite Parsons Green and are extremely alarmed at the proposed development of Alexander House, along Peterborough Road. The plans can be seen on the LBHF website here:
2017/01837/FUL
We are specifically concerned about the fact that the 5 storey office/residential building proposed will extend down Peterborough Mews. We feel that not only will it significantly over-develop the mews, but that it will also overshadow the Grade II listed buildings we live in, as well as set an alarming precedent for the size of developments in this area. Added to that will be the disruption of heavy lorries for a considerable amount of time, including shutting parts of Peterborough Road for months on end.
We’d like to galvanise other concerned residents of the area into opposing this, if possible.
Yours sincerely
Lucy Johnson
Not really our bag but we share your worries. Your best bet is to contact the Fulham Society http://www.fulhamsociety.org/ if you haven’t already. You should also make your concerns known to local concillors and MP and engage fully in the planning process.
Good luck
I’m writing on behalf of the 28th Hammersmith Scout Group. We are researching our history (and the history of scouting in general) in the Hammersmith area and are not entirely sure where to start. We have reached out to the Scout Association archives but wondered if any of your members may be able to help? Many thanks
Neil Docherty
Acting Group Scout Leader
28th Hammersmith Scout Group
Dear Neil,I read your message with interest,I was a member of the 21st Fulham cub pack from 1952 to 1956,although not Hammersmith there maybe something of interest to you.Regards Roy.
Better late than never ! My parents belonged to the scouts and guides based at the South Street Mission in the 1920s. I think I may have a programme of a gang show put on by the 2nd and 26th Hammersmith scouts and guides. My grandmother was a scout leader/helper. I have some poor quality snapshots of them. Any help?
Do you have any images of the 1928 British Motor exhibition at Olympia? I am looking for photos of stand 78 Gordon England’s austins.
Thanks
Val
Val
The Society don’t hold any archive but the LBHF archives have some records of events at Olympia, there may be a catalouge in there. Can I suggest that you email the archives at the address above.
Also if you can get to London the British Library may hold copies of the Motoring and Motor trade magazines from the period which would have more extensive coverage.
Good Luck
Do you know the name of the bakery in Moore park road sw6 circa 1965 please?
Look out a copy of Kelly’s London Post office directory, may be available at Hammersmith if not try Guildhall library.
Hello Geoff
My sister inlaw seems to think it was the Ideal Bakery. she lived in M P Rd in the 60s.
Hi, after a 30 year wait i have been able to find out the name of my grandfather. His name was Cyril Francis Howe born 10th October 1904 in St Albans. He moved to Hammersmith in 1936 having spent time in prison for manslaughter of his own infant son. He married a Lilian in 1949. Does anyone know anything about during this period?
I wish I could find out the real identity of my grandfather. I can’t find his birth records anywhere. It turns out he had a secret life before marrying my grandmother in 1933. Just don’t know where to start!
Obviously there are no details but can we suggest that you go to a local library (most have Ancestry or Find my Past on their computers) and search for your grandmothers wedding. That should give you a start.
There are a number of reports of this incident reported in the press at the time from Cornwall to Dundee.the baby died from a form of poisoning from an ear wound. checkout the British newspaper library online for more details. What period are you exactly looking for. Perhaps Cyril served time at the Scrubbs and so stayed in Hammersmith when he was released.
It would make sense that he served his time there, his case was heard in the St Albans Assizes in march 1930, i presume he got 5 years as he reappears in the Hammersmith area in 1936. I then see he marries in 1949 to a Lillian. Do you know if the prisoner records are kept locally? I am looking for a photo as my mother is 80 years young and has never seen what he looked like.
Kevin, Your best chance of a photo would be in the St Albans press at the time of the trial or possibly one of the nationals if it was notorious as suggested. The St Albans local archive and British Library are your best starting points. The 100 year rule means there would be no access to any offical records.
Good luck
Hi
My direct ancestors John Adam Pritchard and his wife Letitia ran the Thatched House public house in Webbs Lane, Hammersmith approx 1812-1820’s. Not sure Webbs Lane is still there but does anybody know of the pub or what Webbs Lane is known as now? Their son William Henry Pritchard attended a boarding/day school in Feltham. Again does anybody know what this was called in the 1820’s
Thank you
Hi Claire
There is a Thatched House in Paddenswick Road Hammersmith. I think the pub is still there.Good luck with your search.
Len is right. It seems that Webbs Lane became Albion Road and then Dalling Road.
A pub is still there. See these 2 links:
Webbs Lane
and Thatched House
If you are able to get to the LBHF Archive at Hammersmith library on a Monday or a Tuesday the archivist may have more information such as rate book entries & possibly licence. They willl also have old maps of the area and formal details of the road name changes and probably some photographs although not of that date. There are a number of books on the old pubs in the area too. Best to make contact by email or phone first see details at top of the page. (archives@lbhf.gov.uk).
For Feltham try Hounslow History Society or the council
Good luck.
Also look at the pubhistory.com website (see below)for landlords from the mid 1850’s and present day photo.
Hello, I am trying to find some early pictures of the Nell Gwynne pub, at 541 Kings Rd Fulham.
My Gt Gt Grandfather died there in 1879.
See the listing for John George Weekes here:
http://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Fulham/NellGwynne.shtml
Although I am in New Zealand, I am hoping to come over this year and visit this site, and maybe some others too.
I know that it is a restaurant bar now, but I was wondering if there were any early pics of the building ?
Any other information gratefully received thanks
Peter Weekes
Hi
I am trying to locate the burial of my great great nan, but after 2 years I am still hitting a brick wall. Her name was Gentie or Gentellia Powell ner Cooper. She died on the 21.12.1915 at 49 Pearscroft Rd,Fulham. She was 46 when she died of bronchi pneumonia. I know that on both sides of the family they were Romany gipseys and this seems to complicate matters. I would appreciate any help you may be able to give me.
I was interested in your mention of Romany Gypsies. I do not know of any one called Gentie, but my great grandfather and grandmother lived in the area in the 1890s and they were connected with the Romany Gypsies. Their names were John Mark Hearne and Sinamenty Hearne(nee Smith). They had a number of children including my grandfather Meshak Hearne.
hello wondering if you know of a john and florence smith they lived in a caravan in 1926 around wormwood also old oak many thanks
Hi Mary,
Just moved into west London Chiswick area and noticed there’s a road right near my house called Hearne Road. Also had a great Aunt with the same surname who lived in West London around the 1940s. Definitely a long shot but wondering if there might be some connection here? I’d love to know what else you’ve found out too.
Many regards,
Tommy Hearne
Hi there, my family did live in Harrow, – Wealdstone in the 40s (West London) and earlier and later. So there could well be a connection. Perhaps if you want to, you could let me know what your auntie’s name was. I have some knowledge of my grandfather Meshak who was from Fulham, however as I said before I have had difficulty going further back as my great grandfather and great grandmother were travellers.
I wonder whether any of those children of John and Sinamenty were a Charles and Fred Hearne? Both brothers were of Romany family and both married my aunt (though not obviously at the same time) and lived in Hammersmith with her. She died only a few years ago. Charlie and my aunt had a son, Brian, who has also died without children.
Hello Michelle
Send the death certificate details to the Fulham & Hammersmith Cemeteries Office who will do a search of their cemeteries.
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/births-deaths-and-marriages/deaths/cemeteries-and-burials
If not buried in F&H, ask them which other borough(s) to contact. Have found relatives who lived and died in Fulham this way, the London Boroughs also bought land for cemeteries outside London, so should be able to advise you what other cemeteries to contact. Good luck.
We have Romany gypsies buried in our cemeteries, so shouldn’t be a problem – or was it a problem in 1915.
There are accounts of gypsy caravans and body being burned together, then as time goes on the caravan burned and body buried in a cemetery but if seems your relative was living in a house.
Greetings from the other side of the planet.
I’m an 80 y/o researcher living in Swansea, NSW Australia.
Can you help me with this enquiry please.
My Grandfather, one Francis Edward AUSTEN, was born in Hammersmith in the Jan – Mar Qtr of 1886. He was baptised at the St John the Evangelist church, Hammersmith on the 31st March 1886. His baptismal details tell us that his mother’s name was Elizabeth (presumably “Austen”). She is recorded as being a “single woman ” Her address was said to have been :
17 Albert Gardens, Dalling Rd.
My enquiry dear people is : what manner of establishment might have existed at 17 Albert Gardens? I’m thinking perhaps along the lines of a hostel for unmarried mothers or similar. Salvation Army perhaps? and secondly, what exactly was “Albert Gardens” at this time?
Thanks for your time and interest
Jim Fletcher
Looking for my grandad roy soley
His daughter Vanessa soley – my mum
Born and brought up in Fulham 1970s
My grandfather Charles Edward Stephen Howard of fulham was born.1908-1910.
His parents were bge gypsies but he was raised with hesalvation Armyge
.
He later went. On to marry Elsie Kinton from Fulham together they had 3 children Brian Joan and Richard .
My pop Charles .also was in the merchant Navy.
In 1968 Charles and elsie migrated to Australia .
I can not find any more information but what i have said.
Due to pop being orphaned ??? I know nothing else any infirnation on the kinton or howard side would be greatf
l .
Thank u
Ms HowardMy gr
I would like to know who lived in my house when it was first built. 156b stephendale rd fulham sw6 2pl, and the history of it.
Thanks
Penny Bates
The name was approved about 1878-1882. This is one of the earlier developed housing areas of South Fulham, most likely because of the gas works. Voting lists can be checked at the library and there may also be rate books available,to find names.
Thank you to everyone who helped with the map of Fulham for 1890 onwards. I ordered three maps from Godfrey but one problem solved, now have a query. On th back of the map for 1894 there is a partial street guide, lists of merchants and inhabitants along North End, Lillie Road and a few other streets. At 81 North End Road there is St. Joseph’s Orphanage with a Sister Mary Xavier as the head. And at 83 convent schools.
I have my grandmother handed over to th Board of Guardians in 1894 and who appears in the census of 1901 at St. Joseph’s. I believed St. Joseph’s was in Brook Green, at the rear of the Catholic Church there.. According to a Father at St. Thomas’s Catholic Church, there were only two Catholic Churches in the area in 1890’s.
Does anyone have any information on the two St. Joseph’s. Thank you.
Find a copy of Pope’ Corner by Denis Evinson FHHS 1980, and this will have a few paragraphs about the 2 orphanages.I dont think we have a copy in print now, but library will have copy. It deals with Catholic institutions in Hammersmith, and has a good bibliography which may also help. Local history dept. at Hammersmith will have some of the material consulted in the pamphlet as it was written by a local headmaster.
Hello, I have a birth certificate for an ancestor born 1883 that gives the mother’s address as Bath House, Fulham Palace Road. Does anyone know what this building was and if it still exists in some form
I would think this refers to one of the buildings on the Fulham Union/Fulham hospital…Charing Cross hospital site. I would imagine that all new arrivals would be required to have a bath on arrival to prevent infection. I remember when I went to Seagrave Road hospital in the early 60’s(THe West London Fever and isolation hospital) there was a small building near the entrance and on the floor in the middle of the room was a tin bath, that had been used for this purpose.
Medicine in the Parish of Fulham from the 14th Century: Fulham Hospital 1884-1959 gives a history of the site, although the index does not mention a bath house. Feret Fulham Old and New is also a useful source of the history of the site…. available on line or CDrom
Hello, thank you for your answer. The mother was a servant, sometimes described as a governess on the birth certificates so I suppose she would have relied on the Union for help when ill or pregnant as she had no family. to fall back on.
Your sincerely
John
I have been trying to found out on the web. My nan lived in William Parnell house in fulham sands end and she used to call it pineapple lodge and it has now been demolished it still is called pineapple park, does anyone now why.
Hello I have just inquired about this and apparently in the 1920s a box of pineapples was stolen and distributed among the residents of WPH. I hope this helps.
That’s sounds about right as a lot of family’s in WPN worked in Northern road as barrow boys. Thanks
Yes , FHHS may have answered this question before, although it may have also been discussed in depth by Frank’s (now closed) local websites of Fulham, but checkout
Click to access ser_web.pdf
There is an also an interesting link on Facebook to a site called Backtrack Fulham, besides having interesting historical photographs it also keeps one upto date with recent developments in Fulham. One of the clips loaded in Oct 2012 shows filming at a boarded up William Parnell House, with a very young Pete Postlethwaite and Denis Waterman in the roles. http://www.facebook.com/BackTrackFulham
Correction 30 th Oct 2016
I’m guessing that no-one on the forum has any information about the address I enquired about previously (3 Lucas House, Argyle Place – Argyle Place being a still-existing cul-de-sac off of King Street in Hammersmith). Assuming this is the case, I’d be interested to know if there are any reference sources that you can recommend which might allow me to find out more about this building. Many thanks.
Good evening,
I wonder if there is anyone on this forum that could help me please?
I’m trying to find information relating to my great grandmother Alice Poole who was born in 1858, Banwell, Somerset.
She changed her surname from Poole to Freeman on the 1901 census for unknown reasons.
She was a domestic servant in 1881, but somehow by 1901 she owned 2 properties in Fulham (Numbers 35 and 37 Epirus Road) living on her own means.
The rate books confirm that she purchased the properties under the name of Alice Maude Freeman
They also show that both properties were sold circa 1903.
Unfortunately they do not list who had the houses previously or who purchased them after Alice had owned them.
As a consequence, I cant trace how she came to acquire her Estate or who it went to afterwards.
I would like to unravel the mystery of this lady and wondered whether you may have access to any further information on her.
I remember checking the 1911 census a few years back and it showed that Alice was in an institution by then, now registered as Alice Poole again.
A story passed down through the family suggested she may have had a drink problem, which may or may not be linked with her demise?. Her family had all been split up around 1901, my grandmother was placed into service and moved towns.
I cant find any reference to a father on any of her children’s birth certificates, so again he is a mystery too. My grandmother never spoke to my mother or her sisters about her, so I have very little to go on I’m afraid
Would there be any newspaper articles in Fulham circa 1901 – 1903 that may shed any light under the name of Alice Freeman / Alice Poole?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
I am also researching this lady. If you are still researching this line please reply
Tom I have made contact with Nicki as we share the same great grandmother, Alice Poole. I have the same story as you. My grandfather was Harold Basley Poole, her son. Please get in touch. findingalice1860@gmail.com
Best, Tracy
I am trying to find information about Lucas House, Argyle Place (the latter a cul-de-sac off King Street which still exists, though probably with few pre WW 2 buildings). My father was born there in 1914. I found a reference to a Lucas House in this location in a late 1800’s report on London housing. I speculate it may have been a tenement block ? It is not shown on the oldest map I found (1950) and speculate it was demolished before then. Any information would be gratefully received.
I am trying to find out who would have resided at 64, Dawes Road, Fulham SW6 in 1943. My mother was living there although it was not her home. I would like to know if the resident was a relative. I was born in the nearby hospital at 7, Parsons Green. It’s mystery why my mother would have gone to Fulham possibly with my sister who was 18 months old at the time. Is there anyone who could unravel this mystery for me. I know that Dawes Road still exists. Any information would be most gratefully received Marion Wright
Marion,
The wartime census for 1939 shows that at number 64 Dawes Road were living –
William (aged 78 and a Jobbing Decorator) and Rosetta Bradshaw (aged 66) and John Garrett, a 74 year-old Tailor.
Whether they were still there in 1943 I wouldn’t know.
If you let me know your mother’s first and last names in 1939 I should be able to trace her too. If she wasn’t in Fulham, please tell me where.
Hi Mark thank you so much. At the time my mothers name would have been Ivy Phillis Thompson, my fathers name was George, but her maiden name was Bradshaw. She would have been in her mid/late twenty’s while in Dawes Road. I have no idea how long she would have been there, but did eventually return to Hertford in Hertfordshire. I have vague memories of her telling me my dad had been offered a job in the building trade by a relative. This could be the link to William.
Marion,
If your mother’s maiden name was Bradshaw wouldn’t it be likely that William and Rosetta were related?
The only Ivy Thompson I can find in Fulham in 1939 is an Ivy F Thompson, born in 1909 but there was an Ivy P Thompson, born in 1914, living at 24, Port Hill, Hertford, Hertfordshire in 1939. She’s shown as being a kitchen maid at the county hospital and married. There’s no husband shown at the same address but is it possible he was serving in the forces?
Hi mark your research is correct. Ivy lived at 24, Port Hill with her mother Hilda Elizabeth Bradshaw. She most likely was not in Fulham long enough to appear on the electoral roll. My father George was in the army at the time, that is why I cannot understand why my mother would have gone to live with William and Rossetta. I can only assume that William was Hilda’s brother. At the time my mother (Ivy) would have had my sister who at the time of my birth in April 1943, would have been only 18ths old. I wonder if she may have left her with Hilda. But the question remains why she left Hertford without the support of her husband. Would the census or electoral roll tell if my sister was in Hertford during Ivy’s absence in the care of Hilda.
Marion,
Census details are only released every 10 years so that 100 years lies between the latest census release and the present year. Hence we’re now only up to 1911. The 1939 census was released as something of a one-off to show where the population were at the outbreak of war but it has been very useful for family historians like myself.
It is unusual that your mother moved into the danger of London but 1939 was early days and the Blitz didn’t begin until a year later. I suspect that by late 1941 they would have quickly realised that evacuation was better for the majority, if not Hertfordshire then elsewhere.We may never know the reasons but it is possible she was just visiting as all census information records where the person was on the day it was taken not where they normally lived. The names of young children living with adults at the time of the 1939 census were blanked out on the release because there was the possibility that they were still living and would be covered by, I think, data protection laws. However, there is no evidence of any blanking out at 64, Dawes Road or 24, Port Hill, not that your sister would have been there in 1939 anyway.
Hi, I’m trying to track down a documentary made featuring Cardross Street – interviews with residents etc – dating from or shown on TV in the late 1980s or early/mid 1990s. I wondered whether anyone had any information about this programme and where I might be able to source it? Many thanks.
I have a copy on VHS video as it featured my grandparents. It was one of the 40 Minutes series of documentaries and was made in the 1980s. Titled ‘Two Sides of the Street’.
This documentary went out on 20th April 1989 ( Season 9 episode 15) and was about
The changing scene of a London street being gentrified.
Director: John Pitman
I am researching a WW2 airman who was from Fulham. He was killed when his bomber crashed in The Netherlands on the night of 12/13 May 1943. I was wondering if anybody at the FHHS could help me with the following questions:
– Is there a war memorial in Fulham which has the names of Fulham men killed in WW2 engraved?
– There is a publication from your historical society on WW2 (written by Leslie Hasker). Are Fulham men killed in WW2 mentioned in this book?
– Was there a local newspaper which reported the death of men from Fulham during WW2?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much in advance.
Sincerely,
Pieter
Fulham does have war memorials, and there will also be memorial boards and smaller memorials in firms and organisations. Perhaps you could give their full name and their employment. The Hasker book does not list names , but records though nine chapters changes in Fulham during the course of the war, There are also local newspapers available at the archives department , see above.
Thank you for your reply. His full name is Kenneth George Roots, He worked at Queen Anne’s Bounty. Searching the archives for local newspapers is difficult, as I live in The Netherlands.
Strange to relate , but I actually lived 3 doors away from Mrs Roots, as I recall she lived on the ground floor of a 8 roomed house, with an outside toilet on the Peterborough Estate in Fulham, with another family upstairs, but would have to check voting list to confirm this…see our book about Peterborough House/estate. as I was only born after the war, and can remember nothing about her, except she had white hair. I was not aware of her loss. I don’t remember her husband at all.
With regards to Queen Annes Bounty, the following may help, and I will continue to see if I an find further references for the name
On 2 April 1947, by the Church Commissioners Measure 1947, the functions and assets of Queen Anne’s Bounty were merged with the Ecclesiastical Commissioners to form the Church Commissioners.[3] The archives of Queen Anne’s Bounty are now held by the Church of England Resource Centre, and not directly accessible by the public; specific documents may be consulted at Lambeth Palace Library if adequate notice is given [4]
I’m not sure if you have these details but these are Kenneth’s death details as they appear on the Findmypast website –
First name(s) Kenneth G
Last name Roots
Death year 1943
Year range 1943
Service number 1322042
Rank Sergeant
Regiment or unit 149 Sqdn.
Record source GRO War Death R.A.F. All Ranks (1939 to 1948)
Volume 12
Page 277
Record set British Nationals Armed Forces Deaths 1796-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
And this, from the Commonwealth War Graves site is his burial/memorial location –
Plot LL. Row 2. Grave 34. ROTTERDAM (CROOSWIJK) GENERAL CEMETERY
He was the son of George King Roots and Lottie Emma Roots, of 13, Quarrendon Street, Fulham, London.
The Fulham Chronicle is the only local paper that I’m aware of from that time but I’m not sure names of war dead were released during the war in the interests of the war effort.
Hope this helps a little.
Where would I find a map of Fulham 1880-1910. I want to mark addresses for family history purposes. Some of the streets I have from various sources no longer exist, one I believe was near Waitrose in Fulham Broadway, another near Fulham Cross, now a council estate.
My area of interest runs from Fulham Broadway, Fulham Road, Fulham Palace Road, Lillie Road, North End Road back to Fulham Broadway.
I can’t help with the street maps, Susan, othere than say Google Fulham Map or something similar and you should find a few possibilities. For street name changes try this website –
http://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/Streets/Street_Name_Changes.htm
Thank you. I will try the site you suggest.
Thank you. I will try the site you suggest.
Try this site for maps
maps,nls.uk
I don’t know if this will help but I was also looking for old street maps of Fulham for early 1900s and found a reprint of an old ordnance survey map published by Alan Godfrey Maps http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk. The one I have and think you also want is “London Sheet 99 – Putney Bridge and Fulham 1913”
There’s a gallery at the end of Fulham road called Kings gallery(or something))they have lots of maps including Fulham. I bought 2 there about year ago. One 1780 the next one about 1845
Try there
Andrew
Hello there
Do hope you can help.
I am wondering what would be the current address for the location ’12 West Kensington Gardens Hammersmith’ as per a birth certificate from 1905 – ? I can’t find this location as a current address so am wondering whether the road/gardens have changed in the past century – do you know?
Many thanks and regards
Dr O Williams
This is one of the names abolished by the creation of Hammersmith Rpad. Name abolished 20 June 1873. It should be on an old OS map sheet V!-97. The odd numbers were in the East Fulham Constit. The evens in the S,Hammersmith Constit
Hello,
I’m hoping to write a book on Filming Locations from Steptoe and Son Series.The Location that baffles me is from the episode “A Star is Born”
Harold comes out of a Theatre/Hall ,throws a bottle through the window and hides beind a Bush near what appears to be a newsagents.
Any ideas Please?
Fulham does have war memorials, and there will also be memorial boards and smaller memorials in firms and organisations. Perhaps you could give their full name and their employment. The Hasker book does not list names , but records though nine chapters changes in Fulham during the course of the war, There are also local newspapers available at the archives department , see above.
Film locations only give one listing for this episode, i,e, Lime Grove studios, and having looked at the episode in question therefore I don’t think the outside shot would have been far away and is most likely a shot down Lime Grove. One of the best clues for locating ares can be Lampposts. These only change every 20-30 years and if one had a good file of styles in London boroughs over say the last 50 years identification of area can be made easier
Hi all.
I am trying to find a burial at the Fulham Cemetery or Margravine Cemetery as possible locations. Can anybody help with this at all or point me in the correct direction to obtain this?. Thanks.
Robin if you google friends of Margravine cemetery they logged the burials in the last couple of years, you will be able to email them with your request . They are very active and organised.
Brian
I had NEWPORT ancestors living at 21 Mayland Road Shepherds Bush in 1878.
I have found Mayland Road referred to in an 1876 report of the Medical Officer for Fulham and another reference to someone else living at 29 Mayland Road in 1878 and reference to a Mayland Road pillar post box collection times in an 1881 Post Office publication, so I know it existed at that time.
However, I have scoured every street in 1880’s maps of Shepherds Bush and cannot find it. Perhaps the street name was changed.
Can anyone help me find where it was?
Thanks.
Bruce Newport. Melbourne, Australia.
Bruce,
Mayland Road became Conningham Road sometime between 1857 and 1929.
Yes, Mayland Road,(1-151), (2-170), Swankley villas, Swankley Terrace, and Coningham Villas lost their names when Coningham Road name was approved in 1865,
Thank you both very much. I should have got the clue from an 1876 report of the Medical Officer for Fulham which included a record of payment for paving of Mayland road Coningham road. I thought it might have been for 2 jobs in 2 nearby streets or maybe even for paving of a corner of the two but I now see that both the old and the new names for the same street were being used. My great-grandfather used only the Mayland road address on his letterhead when writing in 1878. Would the number 21 in 1878 have any relationship to the current numbering in the street?
As both Roads coexisted in the 1880 electoral register it is likely that Mayland Road was added onto the existing numbers which finished at 59 and 60 respectively. No sign of a Newport in Electoral Register or in later street directory on these roads.
So does that mean that Mayland Road was at the northern (Uxbridge road) end of what is now Coningham Road or at the southern (Goldhawk Road) end of Coningham Road?
Re Newport family, they lived at 64 Stowe Road, Shepherds Bush in 1871 census, 21 Mayland Road in Feb 1878 and at 16 Grange Park Gardens, Ealing in 1881 census.
Would your Stanton family live in Cassidy Road?
No I don’t believe so. My Grandmother Emily Stanton(Kilner) lived in Grove Vale East Dulwich 1923-1941 where she died in an air-raid
hello I am still researching the stanton/kilner family in london. Could you tell me if 103 St Dunstans Road, Fulham was a hospital or a private dwelling in 1914 Regards Edith
It appears to be a side entrance to what was the Fulham Workhouse and became Charing Cross Hospital.
For info there are Stantons in the Kelly’s directories as follows:
1912
Alfred George at 31 Hugon Road
1917
Alfred George at 352 Wandsworth Bridge Road
Frederick J at 63b Fulham Park Gardens
William at 45 Lambrook Terrace
Good Luck
Thank you for your reply – I will take a look at these. If my father was brought up in the st Dunstans rd area do you know where would he have likely gone to school?
I would think he would have gone tyo St Dunstans Road school
From Fulham Palace Road down to Beryl Road the school is
just past this road. During the second world war it was damaged
by a basket of incendiaries. Repaired and opened again after the war.
I am looking for the electoral roll for No 9 Eyot Gardens, Hammersmith for 1964-1966 – does anyone know where I could locate this information please?
Hi Mary, itwill be available in Hammersmith Library upstairs in the Archives section. They are on open display.
Details of the archives are listed at the top of our Contact Us page.
It might have been Christ Church in Studdridge Street.
My grandfather Dann, parents, brothers, were living at 33 Broughton Road in the 1901 Census.
I have a photo of a wedding group taken in the backyard. Not sure of the date but before WW1.
Hi. I’m still trying to find if there was a church within sight of the Fulham Gas works (Imperial Road) around the mid-1960s. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Christine , re church near gas works , what is it you need to know , what is the information you are looking for. ? St. John’s at Walham Green was a popular church at Fulham Broadway You could see it from on top of gasometer but t whether you could from the street who knows.
Brian
Imperial Road is quite a long road and obviously the churches that could be identified from there depend in which direction one is looking.If you have a picture of a church that does not compare to a present day image, then it could be St James Moore Park Road. This church was situated halfway along the road on a corner site and was declared redundant in the 1980’s and then was destroyed by fire, so could only be demolished.
there was also a chapel that stood on the north east corner of Wandsworth bridge road which faced Studdridge street. there was also a church in Townmead road backing onto Querrin Street.
I am researching the old Dairy 66a Paddenswick Road W6 0UB.
Now Naturalmat.
Can anyone help with archive photos?
Many thanks
Nigel
Hello – I am trying to find out when the houses on Broughton Road, SW6 2LA were built … would you please have any information that could help? Many thanks, Annabelle
This is the type of information that is likely to be held in the LBHF Archive in Hammersmith Library. The ordnance survey large scale maps should give a good indication. The card indexes may say who built them and when. Failing that there will be entries in the local directories, census and electoral registers. There is also an LCC publication that has been updated several times listing all street names and when they were first authorised. There may also be some photos. See top of the Contact Us page for details of Archive.
The order for the street name dates to the 21st Dec 1888 and numbers 10-118 were allocated.
Hi,
My Grandparents were living at no 31 around 1910-1912
Charles Ansell and Harriet Taylor.
Brian
Hello,
My Father’s full name was Edward Herbert George Layton. His Father was George Layton and was from Fulham and is buried in Ladywell cemetary. Not sure if this is useful.
Regards
Peter Layton
Hi my name is Lorraine I’m trying to buy a book for my friend for her birthday about Fulham she was born in 1955 in Basuto road and I would like it to have memories from that date until 1980 could you please help me to find the best one for those dates.
Many thanks
Lorrainelebby@yahoo.co.uk
Not sure what you mean by awaiting moderation
On this type of comment page it is usual for someone to check the posts to make sure there is nothing untoward in them, as webmaster I do that as often as i can but sometimes there is a delay. I have sent your query to our publications organiser who will reply direct. You may also get responses on here from other visitors to the site.
Hope this helps
John
Lorraine,
Try Francis Czucha’s ‘Old Fulham’ or ‘Fulham Past’ by Barbara Denny. Both available on Amazon among other places.
Hi Lorraine – slightly outside your date range but I have a modern book on Fulham in my Village Books range that you might enjoy (it includes several local history walks and an excellent introduction and history on the area by Caroline MacMillan) – please let me know if you’d like to know more – all the best AW
Hello, does anyone know about a dance hall that used to be part of The Kings Arms Pub in Fulham in the early 1960s please?
Kind regards
Penny Carter
There was a dance hall on the New Kings Road at Kings Hall, the name for the South FulhamConstitutional club on the corner of Chipsted street i believe it is now changed to flats. See google streetview.
I wonder if you mean the Hibernian next to the
Kings Head Pub Fulham Broadway
Does anyone know anything about residents living in 23 Raleigh Rd round about 1907? They were Rebecca Bustard Muller and Jean (John) Muller, an Austrian hairdresser?
An information would be greatly appreciated. 😀
Staff nurse janet mews was at St stephens hospital around 1958 1959 and may have been promoted to sister
The Board of Guardians’ home is now part of Lady Margaret School and the children taken into care were sent to Ackmar Road School before being sent on elsewhere. I have relatives at age 3 being said to go to Ackmar Road but then turning up in other places at 7. Two homes in Middlesex, St. Mary’s and St. Vincent’s took Fulham children after Ackmar Road. Catholic children were kept separate.
I have photos of the Old School House, Ackmar Road School and the Board of Guardians home in Parsons Green if you are not in the Fulham area.
Hi Susan
Many thanks for the info, I know that both Jim and Stan went to Akmar Road School and they both said that the home was Lady Margaret’s and whilst there they used to sometimes go home at weekends. He also said that he spent part of his first school years at Sherbrooke Road School before going into care and after Akmar Road spent part of his childhood in Norwood!
Would you happen to know where I need to look if I want to find out the reason for them going into care and be able to trace their movements within the system?
I would very much like to see some photos please, I know Parsons Green well as we lived in Fulham Court and I was born in Parsons Green Hospital (I understand the hospital may have been built on the original site of the home!) but I have not been around there for far too many years and the place has probably changed considerably since then. ballseye.ball@btinternet.com
I was born in parsons green hospital 1966 and went to secondary school st marks (ackmar ) road school my aunt and uncle had the Peterborough cafe and my mum worked at printing arts heathmans rd .we lived in Winslow rd w6 (Brandenburg road) before the war .i live on the south coast but visit as my brother is in Wandsworth .
Does anyone know of a church in either SW6 or SW10 that was in sight on the Fulham Gas Works and has possibly been demolished. My uncle has a picture of my mother standing in a churchyard with the gas works in the background around 1966. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Possibly Our Lady of Perpetual Hope in Stephendale Road or St Matthes on Wandsworth Bridge Road.
Have a look at these maps
They are from the National Library of Scotland and are accesible on-line for free.
My grandmother worked at 144 conningham road w12 in the year 1932
Hello,
I am intrigued! Do tell me more..
I lived at No 24 in the 50s for about 5 years. Have a tale to tell about No 22.
What year was this murder?
Have you lived there?
Regards Josie
Hi. I wonder if anyone has any photographs of two bronze foundries, one at Albion Works, 59 Parsons Green Lane between about 1895 and 1918, the other at Beaumont Works, Beaumont Road, West Kensington. Many thanks.
Hi. I wonder if anyone has any information on M.A.P.Motors, who were at 20a Waterford Road, Fulham possibly anytime between about 1930 and 1960, although most likely to have been around 1950. Thanks.
Can you help me please! My name is Stephen Ball; I am trying to trace back my father’s side of the family. His name was James William Ball borne June 1922 died March 2008, along with his brother Stanley they were taken into care around 1929-30 and attended Ackmar Road School for a while. I think that the board of guardians at Lady Margaret’s School may have been involved in some way, the family have lived in Fulham since the 1890’s and maybe longer around the Sherbrooke Road & Fulham Court area and his father (my Grandfather) was also James William Ball (An Electrician). Any information would be very much appreciated.
Thank You
Stephen Ball
Hello. I’ve just seen someone’s comment regarding chimney in video footage in Fulham. Does anyone know if this would have been about in 1939. My grandfather was a laundry foreman. So I’ve often wondered where this would have been. He was living in Lintaine road fulham which I believe is now normand park.
Thanks for any help
It’s mendora road. Does anyone know someone living there so we can show the video to the now grown up children?
Anyone please help?
Lots Rd power station is in Chelsea. Also there are what looks like 3 high rise flats on the left. Not sure about the chimney, could be Lyons factory..
Hi there,
Can anyone identify this road in Hammersmith, it was a video taken in the 1960s : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZd7Z0FXEg4
I also have a screenshot here: http://prntscr.com/ei6h6z
The small information I have been given so far:
The chimney behind is either belonged to lots power station or cadbys, but this is not confirmed.
Thank you,
Brian.
Further on in the clips there is a shot of the Queens Arms,which was in Greyhound road, now if it is thought that this is a laundry chimney and assuming the picture is in this area of Hammersmith Fulham borders it could possibly the laundry chimney of Fulham hospital
Is there any detailed information available on the graves in Margravine Cemetery? I’ve checked on the ones which are listed by English Heritage, but I think there are other interesting ones.
Ann,
There is a society for the margravine cemetery and it is very active.they were listing the graves during the last three years. I belong to it and they will have lots of information I’m sure ..
Type in on google friends of margravine cemetery you should get the contacts. Any problems my email is brianjeffreys1@gmail.com
Brian
What a wonderful place Margravine is and besides the graves themselves it is also a fabulous spot from which to survey the pair of Peregrines that live on the hospital – please check out my book Wild about Hammersmith & Brook Green, where I catalogue all of this – regards AW
Hello I am looking for information on my father’s family:- Ernest Stanton . DOB 9th Nov 1914
Place of birth 103 St Dunstans Rd Fulham
Mother: Emily Stanton (maiden name Kilner)
Address: 103 St Dunstans Rd Fulham
Father: John Henry Stanton
Address: 6 Pulford Terrace, Pimlico
Occupation: Paper Hanger (Journeyman) This was also the address of Richard Henry Mounder son of Richard Moundu
I have found no record of Emily & John Henry being married – in fact no record of John Henry at all – or where any of them lived until my Father joined the Royal Navy in 1929 and Emily appeared at 66 Grove Vale, East Dulwich using the name Stanton but no mention of a husband . She died there on May 11th 1941 during an air-raid and was buried under the name of Emily Kilner in Camberwell. When Mum & Dad married in 1938 she was called Mrs Stanton a ‘widow’ in the wedding details, we believe she originated from York and was born in 1876, also that she had a daughter much younger than my father, details of her are also unknown. When dad registered my birth in 1942 he gave me the name Kilner as one of my christian names which does seem to point to the fact she never legally married.I hope that someone might be able to fill in the missing pieces. Thank you
Hi Edith
This could be old news as your email was so long ago. There is a newspaper article in Chelsea News and General Advertiser 22 January 1915 which explains the whole situation.
Not good news but solves a mystery.
The Westminster Coroner’s Court held an inquest into James Henry SIngleton alias John Stanton, 34, who died at Millbank Military Hospital.
He had a sister in Bournemouth, Edith Singleton, who said that John was a paperhanger. He had left Bournemouth 4 years previously, being separated from his wife. It was suggested he left Bournemouth to avoid paying his wife maintenance and there was a warrant out because he was in arrears. He regularly wrote home asking for money from his sister so things weren’t going well.
On the 6th January he went to find new lodgings claiming to have been a wounded sergeant in the Royal Horse Artillery whose thigh had been shattered. He had no uniform and no limp, and none of his story was true. He became unwell in the lodgings in Millington Street, he was delirious and was shouting. He didn’t want a doctor but his landlady called one and 3 soldiers took him to military hospital, because they thought he was a member of the military. The doctors couldn’t save him, he was emaciated, dirty and delirious. He died of acute tubercular bronchial pneumonia.
A PC said that John had lodged off Vauxhall Road where he had met Miss Kilder. They then lived together and she had a baby in Fulham. After the baby was born they moved to 6 Pulford Terrace but couldn’t pay the rent, were starving and had to move out. Miss Kilder had moved back to the infirmary.
I came across when I was looking for my ancestors who lived at 1 Pulford Terrace.
Jenny
Edith,
103 St Dunstans Road was the old Fulham Workhouse .
My mother was born there and that’s the address that was given on everyones certificates in that building.
It was replaced with the Charing Cross Hospital which stands on the same site.
Also I have found on at least 2 occasions names were made up often to hide the truth.It can be a world of mystery.
If you want any help use my email below and I will see what I can find
Brian
I am trying to find info on Rose Green (maiden name Dark) who lived in Shepherds Bush. She died around 1942 at the age of 46. She was married to Stanley Green. I think they lived around the Westville Road area.
I am researching the Hearne family who lived in Fulham in the 1880s and 1890s. My grandfather Meshak Hearne went to Munster Primary school for a short while.
I am researching my family history. My grandfather was Meshak Hearne born in 1885 and lived in Fulham until he was about 13ish. I understand he spent a short while at Munster School. His parents were John Mark Hearne and Sinamenty Hearne (nee Smith). I understand there may have been a Romany connection?? The name Munster School has come up and Ackmar, also St. Thomas RC. Can any one help?
I have photos of St. thomas’ School, Rylson Road as it is now, and the stone for Ackmar Road School. Let me know if you would like me to send. Ackmar Road School was used by the Board of Guardians for children residing in what is now part of Lady Margaret School. 1890’s. I have a photo of the home too if this applies. suecjeffrey@yahoo.com
Thank you Susan. It would be great to get a feel for how the place looked at the time my granddad resided. I will send an email.
Email will be just fine Arron.
Len48@live.co.uk
Hi, trying to contact anyone who may have known the Osborne family who lived in Conningham Road, Shepherds Bush during the 1940s-1960s.
My grandmother Alice Rolfe was Alice Osborne before her marriage to William Rolfe. She had 2 sisters and a brother. I know they lived in Fulham but I don’t know the address.
Hello Sue
I’ve only just read your reply to Ann Clayton so this is a very belated follow up. I am interested in the Rolfe family as I grew up in Fulham in the 1950s and my best friend was a Barbara Rolfe who lived with her parents in Kimbell Gds off Colehill Lane. The family moved to Australia late 50s and I lost touch. I would love to make contact with Barbara and wonder if you know anything about the Rolfes of Fulham.
Hi
If 15 and 17 were the same as 24 they would have been 3 story buildings containing 3 family sized flats. It was just a bombed debris that I remember when I was a child.
I can pass you some photos of Lintaine Grove post 1945, on Facebook if you like.
Regards Len
Hi. Thanks for the info. Photos would be great but wondered if email would be better if it’s OK with you obviously as your kind enough to send them? I think my Facebook account is set to private so you may not be able to search me?
I could try funsung you though if you give me a description of your profile pic so I know which person to look for.
Thanks again
Arron
Hi Len. My Aunt was killed on the 18th June 1944 in Lintaine Grove. I have been looking for photos but to no avail. I would be very grateful if you could post what you have on Facebook. Regards June
Oh ok thanks. Where the properties flats do you know? It’s just there seem to be alot of families living at the same number property. My family were there in the late thirties in to forties. My grandad seemed to change between no.15 and 17. And his in laws were at no 17. Along with some other family.
Cheers
Hello
I lived in Lintaine Grove until 1963 at 24 but most of the houses on the opposite side of the road were bombed in 1943.
I’m a firefighter on the IoW and many years ago I was given an original copy of ‘Heroes with Grimy Faces’ by AFS fireman Ben Betts who served in your locality. Inside the book was a single small sheet advertising J.T.Wadley’s house decoration service of 33 Ifield Road. I’d upload it if this allowed me to do so but it doesn’t. If it would be of interest to your society contact me on damon.corr@btopenworld.com and I’ll send a scanned image.
Hello. Can anyone tell me if lintaine grove (now norman park I believe) was servant accommodation in 1939. My grandfather and his in laws all lived at 15 and 17 lintaine grove along with lots and lots of other people at the above address.
Thanks for you help
Hi,
I am researching a relative that according to family folklore committed suicide in Fulham in September 1942
I assume there would of been an inquest. Does anybody know where I may find records of this?
Thanks in advance
NICK
My father lived with a family called Turl in Fulham in the 1920s when he was a young man working in the Civil Service. Are there any people of that name still living in Fulham?
In the early 1950’s ( I was born in ’46) i was taken to a shop near hammersmith station,trading under the name of Lawson(‘s) , by my parents. Please could you tell me the nature of the trade carried out, there ? All i can remember of the visit, is my late father pointing out ‘Mr. Sun’ on a sun assurance ? Sign which was hung nearby
Many thanks
Pete
I believe my great grandmother lived in Rayleigh Road, Shepherds Bush but haven’t been able to find it on a map. I did find a suggestion that Rayleigh Road has become Lakeside Road. Is any member of your society able confirm this, please? If so, do you know when and why it happened?
Sometime between Oct 1944 and May 1946, it appears that Rayleigh Road became Lakeside Road. I have maps that show the road to be the same. Some questions on the web seem to indicate that it was as the result of some disaster in the war. ‘The local newspapers covering that short period may have details, and the council minutes may well record events or reason for name change. The name Lakeside was a reference back to the unsightly pits of water left behind after brick earth had been dug in earlier times, and over which the houses were late built
I am also researching a relative who lived in Raleigh Road and I know it did become Lakeside Road. I have recently found information that states that Raleigh Road was formerly ‘Wharton Road’. My ancestor is named on her marriage certificate as resident at 23 Raleigh Road in October 1907. Apparently, Wharton Road changed to Raleigh Road on 12th February,1907. Hope this helps. Does anyone know of anyone living at that address in 1907? The names are Rebecca (Rissie) Bustard and Jean (John Muller).
Thank you for this information. Sorry for delay in replying but I missed the email notifying me and it was only the subsequent comment that alerted me. I will try to look at local papers for the time period you have given me.
The name Rayleigh comes from the name Lord Rayleigh who was a former President of the Royal Society, the road being built over part of the land they owned.(Source L.C.C. Streets)
Thank you for this information. Sorry for delay in replying but I missed the email notifying me and it was only the subsequent comment that alerted me. I will try to look at local papers for the time period you have given me.
!881 census: There is a Lawrence Harnetty living at; 7, Wheatsheaf Alley, Fulham, London, England with the following people:
? Sullivan Head Widow Female 60 1821 Laundress Ireland Transcription
William Harnetty Grand Son Single Male 19 1862 Plasterer Fulham, Middlesex, England Transcription
Lawrence Harnetty Grand Son Single Male 15 1866 General Laborer Fulham, Middlesex, England Transcription
Dennis Harnetty Grand Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Fulham, Middlesex, England Transcription
John Harnetty Grand Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Fulham, Middlesex, England
RG11
Piece number 70
Folio 26
Page 47
Also on Find my past there is a record of a Laurence HARTLETT
given 5 years for rape. 17 July 1882. Court: Maidstone. HO27 Piece 191. Would think this is not your Laurence because of the crime.
Ancestry has a Laurence Hartlett, living at 27 Mellows Road, Mitcham for the years 1921, 1922 and 1923.
There is also a family tree on here. According to this Laurence
Enlisted with the Middlesex Regiment British Army, 11 Sep 1885 at Hounslow age 17.
He arrived in the USA in 1890 according to the 1930 USA census.
Hi Jenny. Thank you for your reply and your findings. The rape case is not him – I did find details of the rape in a newspaper online and the ages do not match. The Laurence Harnetty is not a match either unfortunately. None of the family members are a match. My Laurence Hartnett had three younger sisters, Bridget, Mary, and Annie. Bridget became a nun in California. Mary died aged 5 and Annie died age 17.
The FMP tree referencing his military record is a match. In fact it is probably my tree which I’ve uploaded.
Jenny’s Lawrence Harnetty may not be quite the right spelling but we do know mistakes were made on the Census and Wheatsheaf Alley (now Wheatsheaf Terrace) is literally a minute’s walk from Marville Road.
I will take a second look, thank you Mark.
Find my past has a Laurence Hartlett age 22 birth year 1869 leaving the UK in 1891
Departure year 1891
Departure day 6
Departure month 8
Departure port Queenstown
Destination port New York
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name Germanic
Ship master’s last name CAMERON
City QUEENSTOWN
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 9124
Ship registered tonnage 3149
Number of passengers 143
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Thank you Jenny. I will take a closer look at this.
Gina,
Jenny’s sighting of Laurence moving to the USA looks a possibility but the name spelling puts me off a little. The only birth in England for this name appears to be for a Laurence Hartnett born in 1868 in Woolwich.This ties in with a Lawrence (with a ‘w’) Hartnett on the 1871 Census living at High St, Beals Yard, Crayford with his mother Ann Hartnett (Maiden name Crowley. Born County Cork, Ireland, 1850) The only reference I could find in US records for that spelling of a Laurence Hartnett was for a marriage in Indiana in 1900 to Laurie Rogers. I couldn’t find a death for him in the US. There is mention of a Laurance Hartnett (spelt with the ‘a’) as having enlisted in the US Army in 1901 which gives his birth year as 1870, but as we know, mistakes were made. Unfortunately, my subscription doesn’t let me go further on that possibility.
Ann Crowley seems to have married Michael Hartnett in Greenwich in 1867 but as he doesn’t appear with her and their son on the 1871 Census, and because she isn’t shown as ‘widow’ on that Census, Michael is possibly living or working elsewhere, may even be in the forces or has simply left her and moved to an unknown destination.
Excellent work, detective! I will fill in a few details. Laurence did become Lawrence in the US and his US military records are usually found under Lawrence Michael Hartnett. His census records (NYS) are also usually found under Lawrence (he first married Elizabeth, then Hannah). He died in 1943 as both a UK and US veteran.
I too wonder why Michael Hartnett was not living with the family in 1871. He is no where to be found in 1871 and perhaps had gone back to Ireland. I will share with you that he was admitted to Maidstone Asylum in the late 1870’s and he died there in 1892.
I’ve had no luck finding Laurence Hartnett, his younger sister Bridget, or their Aunt Mary Crowley and can only assume they were living together but were not included, for whatever reason, in the 1881 Census.
Is it possible that he was sent away to “school”? I’ve come across this before in family history, where a boy of that age was sent to an establishment quite a distance from his home.
Hi Helen. Thank you for your reply. I do believe he was sent away somewhere. The story that has been passed down is that after his little sister died (burned in a house fire in Crayford in Dec 1879) he was sent to live with his mother’s sister, Mary Crowley. She was a maid and “the estate took him in”. I have no independent verification of this story (other than his sister’s death) and that’s what I am really looking for. I can’t find Mary Crowley, (born in 1858 in Daventry) or Laurence Hartnett (born Woolwich 1868) anywhere in 1881.
It is possible that Mary Crowley had married by 1881.
Hi Jenny. Mary married in 1882.
Hi Mark. Thanks for your reply. The address ’69 Marvel Road Fulham’ was listed as my great grandfather’s home address in his military record dated 1885. I was hopeful he lived there in 1881 as well as I’ve been unable to find him in the census that year. Perhap it was misspelled in his military record. I’ve no idea unfortunately.
Hello, Gina. That sounds likely. I’ve a feeling that Marville Road wasn’t created until the late 1880s. If you’d like to tell me your great grandfather’s name I’ll search as well.
Thank you, Mark. That is very kind. His name is Laurence Hartnett, born June 1868 in Woolwich. He would have been 12 years old in the 1881 census.
I have record of him living with his mom in Crayford, Kent in Jan 1880. In Sept 1885 he listed his home address as Marvel Rd, Fulham. However, there is no record of him in 1881. His mom Anne appears to be living alone in Crayford in 1881. I’ve been stumped for quite some time!
Can you tell me about what was located at 69 Marvel Road Fulham in 1881 and 1885. I cannot find this address on a present day map. Thank you.
Did you mean Marville Road, Gina, which is the first turning on the left as you come down Homestead Road from Bishop’s Road? The 1891 Census for Marville Road shows number 69 as being occupied byArthur, Mary, Ernest and William Cot. The 1871 and 1881 Census, however, have no mention of Marville Road but do show a Bishop’s Terrace close to where Marville now lies which doesn’t appear on the 1881 Census so there may be the possibility that the name was changed after 1881 to match the similar sounding Rosaville, Brookville and Parkville Roads.
Hi Mark. Thanks for your reply. The address ’69 Marvel Road Fulham’ was listed as my great grandfather’s home address in his military record dated 1885. I was hopeful he lived there in 1881 as well as I’ve been unable to find him in the census that year. Perhap it was misspelled in his military record. I’ve no idea unfortunately.
I’m researching my great,great aunt, Rebecca ‘Rissie’ Bustard who was married in Fulham registry office on 19th October 1907. She married an Austrian man named Jean Muller and they lived in London and Paris. He was a hairdresser. On their marriage certificate they are said to live at 23 Raleigh Road but I’ve read that this road changed names……..Wharton Road and Lakeside Road? Could anyone help me find more details regarding this?
Thank You!
Kind Regards,
Lynne.
Nicola,
I got info from metropolitan archives London for the old Fulham hospital but I know someone who wrote a book on the hospital and knows his way around all the info available.
Text me your mobile no to mine 07881924430 and I will see if I can get hold of him or email me shown
Brian
That’s really helpful, thanks! I’ve texted you as you suggest.
My late Dad’s family lived in and around Fulham, Hammersmith & Chelsea from the late 19th century onwards. My great great grandfather, John Byrnes was a signwriter/ artist who allegedly used to decorate costermongers’ barrows and was a scenery artist for the Wild West Show, amongst other things! He was in Fulham Hospital at the outbreak of WW2 and is there in the 1939 Register but was evacuated to Yorkshire, presumably following the bombing of the hospital, where he died in 1942. John’s birth does not seem to have been registered so I do not know who his mother was (his father was a bit of a character…!) but the 1939 Register gives his DoB as 24 March 1869. Would there be any surviving records from Fulham Hospital that might provide more information about John? If so, where would I find them? Any ideas gratefully received!
Is this him – from the 1881 census.
Name:
John Byrnes
Age:
13
Estimated birth year:
abt 1868
Relationship to Head:
Son
Father:
Henry B. Byrnes
Mother:
Mary Byrnes
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Battersea, Surrey, England
Civil Parish:
Chelsea
County/Island:
London
Country:
England
Street address:
10A Park Walk
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation:
Scholar
Registration district:
Chelsea
Sub registration district:
Chelsea, North-West
ED, institution, or vessel:
3
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:
80
Folio:
108
Page Number:
28
Household Members:
Name
Age
Henry B. Byrnes 40
Mary Byrnes 40
George Byrnes 17
John Byrnes 13
Richd. Byrnes 11
Chas. Byrnes 7
Ernest Byrnes 2
Thanks Vic – if only it were that easy! No, my John is with his father Richard and stepmother, Amelia, at 27 Kings Road, Chelsea in 1881 (RG11 78 f84 pg 9). The name changes from Burn, to Byrne, to Burns, to Byrnes, to Burnes at different times, hence my problems with tracing them! I have John’s baptism (in Bristol!) in 1871 but on each census it states he was born in London.
I wanted my medical records and contacted Fulham Hospital archives about 10 years ago..alas they had already been destroyed! I was so upset because I am still very much alive!
Don’t forget the FHHS publication
Medicine in the Parish of Fulham from the 14th Century: Fulham Hospital 1884-1959
Medecine in the Parish of Fulham
Medecine in the Parish of Fulham
A L Wyman. The hospital was bombed in WWII but continued until 1959 when bit by bit the old buildings were replaced by the new Charing Cross Hospital, which moved from WC2.
I’m trying to trace any newspaper article concerning my great uncle Patrick Walsh. He was born in approx 1910. He apparently fell from Hammersmith bridge at some point in his life which left him with a stiff leg. He used to sell newspapers outside the station later on but lost his life in the river about 1940 – bit of a mystery. Any help at all would be great. Many thanks. Karen
Email : kasfrape@gmail. com
Can anyone help me with any information about a bomb that was dropped near Ashchurch Park Villas, Shepherds Bush, on 28th September 1940 during ww11. My grandmother, Winifred Georgina Green died that night. She was a member of the Salvation Army. Any elderly resident in the area who may remember her. She lived in Ashchurch Grove. Her maiden name was Wilton. Regards, A. Clayton (Hampshire).
You might find this link helps –
http://www.indyrs.co.uk/2013/03/the-sun-120-askew-road-london-w12/
Does anyone have information or a connection with Hornby & Clarke that later became United Dairies? My grandad who lived in West Ken and Richmond worked for them during WW2 and for 37 years but I’m struggling to find a company archivist or employee records. Any info would be extremely gratefully received. Patsy
This dairy was based in Richmond, and one should look at the Petershaam Village website..I copy here a small extract from the Petersham Village section
“The tenancy of Petersham Farm passed through many hands until 1880 when Mr Hornby obtained the tenancy and was soon joined by Mr Clarke to found the Petersham based dairy of Hornby and Clarke. The Petersham herd supplied the milk. This business was a well-established and well-patronised feature of Richmond life until 1960 with shops selling their dairy products all over Richmond and South West London. A magnificent example of a Hornby and Clarke shop still exists in the Richmond Hill area although the shop is no longer a dairy…”
The online catalogue for Richmond also has a few entries, inparticular some planning applications for some of their premises. This can sometimes have a historical paragraph which is of use. It is most likely that Richmond has other book materials and I would suggest that you enquire there, they may well know then location of any archives. Also try contacting the Richmond Local History society
I have been researching my family history and found that my great grandfather Frederick William Steggall was a School Master in Hammersmith from about 1871 to 1901. I was wondering if there are any records for Hammersmith schools during this period. I would like to know what schools he taught at and his position at the school.
Do you have any advice as to where any records might be held.
Many thanks
Sheila Carson
Check the National Archives Website for possible records
Brian, so glad you enjoyed photos. However, sorry you could not find your Mother in them. Brackenbury in 1960 when I started and then on to age 11 and left. Things might have changed now. Regards Josephine
Stephen as a follow on.. the photo I have shows a cycle work shop. It was at the Glenthorne st end of Cambridge Rd. The other end went onto King St.
Photo blurred but with my magnifying glass I could see a large penny farthing as part of the shops logo and I think the name Pascal was there to.
Regards Josie
Hello , my great grandfather Solomon Goldstein had a bicycle shop in whitechapel road , apparently its a hospital now. my mum who is 97 worked at the shop with her sisters and cousins and they also sold gramophone records, i would appreciate any information about bicycle shops in that location and 1940’s.
I have a bicycle shop in ipswich , maybe in the blood?
thankyou for reading this henry michael summer
I think this is a bit outside our area but there are history societies in East London.
Try:
http://www.mernick.org.uk/elhs
https://www.eolfhs.org.uk
Good Luck
Hello Stephen,
In those days it was known as Cambridge Road and then changed to Cambridge Grove. I went back a few years ago to No 24 as the house went to auction and purchased by a developer at a staggering price! He very kindly let us in and all the work they had done it was turned into 4 flats. Quite emotional for me. It was right next to the railway arch and we soon got used to the sound of trains!
I have a black and white Edwardian photo of Cambridge Rd. If you would like me to email please let me know.
Regards Josephine
Hi , we’re you about at the time a murduer happend at 22 Cambridge grove ?
Brian, should love this photo as well.
My email address is:
Jomac.1955@icloud.com
Thank you.
Josie
Stephen and Josephine
Thank you so much for the link to the 24 photos as parting gift
Fantastic I’m trying to see if my mother is in one I have a class photo which I reckon is about 1919 my mother was born 1912.
I had forgotten the class photos were done as all girls or all boys. I will send you copy Josephine . I also have other info I can dig out which I got after the school had 100yr celebration.
Unfortunately about 4 years ago I spent months and months awaiting the school admin staff to look for some old files for me to no avail. I’m looking for photos that would show my mother and also they issued school leaving certificates.
I imagine kids went to school there from 4/5 years old to 14/15
Not sure what do you think. Strange enough while doing my research I went and looked up Carthew villas which is round the corner from the school as I suspected, incorrectly, it was part of my mothers story.
Brian
Josephine and Brian. All interesting stuff. My grandfather’s bicycle business was at 40 Cambridge Road. I have a photo taken in the early 1900s of Cambridge Rd, I think from the King Street end. I will send it to you. I would be very interested in your Pascal cycle works photo. I also have a photo of Carthew Villas, also about 1910 which I can send. Shame I can’t find my father in the Brackenbury photos but any information you come up with would be useful as I am writing his biography at the moment – names of teachers, attendance times, anything. Many thanks
Stephen thank you so much for info on HMS Stork my husband now on the case! Regards Josie
Stephen and Brian,
Getting back to Brackenbury school again! My best friend lived in Carthew Rd intact two houses on the end and it was called Carthew Villas which I thought odd! Scared me as they lived in basement and very dark.
If you Google.. parting gift from deputy head get west London a treasure trove of old pictures of children at Brackenbury.
Josephine and Stephen
Josephine just looked at your note again re Carthew villas my mother at one time lived in what you would call a dark cellar.
No windows with just her Gran who brought her up and with my brother we found it . Round the corner in the Uxbridge road below what looked like an Iranian restaurant . The cellar is still their and converted for additional eating area and still no windows . We had the address where they had lived.
Your right it would have been scary , horrible
Brian
I am not quite sure whether I am leaving a message in the right place, but I am trying to find out as much as I can about a potter called Edgar Kettle, who worked in the 1870s for C.I.C. Bailey at the Fulham Pottery and then apparently started up his own operation in Putney. If there is anyone out there who knows anything about Mr. Kettle, I would be delighted to hear from them. Many thanks.
David Drew.
Edgar Kettle was employed at Fulham pottery at the same time as Cazin and Wallace Martin. He worked in decorative stoneware, and a good deal of his work is known, signed with his initials and his rebus of a kettle., some of it with dates in the mid 70’s. The archives is in possession of a loving cup incoloured stoneware, with the arms of Oriel college, Oxford. It is not known how long Kettle continued to work for Bailey, but is believed to have dies not long after the Bailey period…ceased 1891. Check with Wandsworth Local history society and the local history dept./ museum
Hello, not sure if all of you out there will be interested…
I lived in Cambridge Grove until the age of 5 years at no. 24 Nine children and we did not have much but appreciated what we had! A famous woman named Ellen Craft lived at no. 26 in Victorian times and helped to abolish slavery. Her history is fascinating. Regards Josie
Thank you for this reply very interesting. Still trying to track the ship moored on Thames with the children!
In 1890’s the training ship Exmouth moored off of Grays Essex. Took orphan boys from 12-14 approx. Info online together with photos. Many of boys went into Merchant Navy, served in navy during WW1. Brilliant idea if a little harsh by today’s standards. A roof over their head, food.
Hello, adore this website. I was born in Kensington and then moved to Hammersmith when I was 5. I went to school at Brackenbury. I’m trying to find out is it true in the Victorian times a ship was moored at the Thames and poor children came off it to go to school at Brackenbury?
Regards Josie
My father was born in Hammersmith in 1916 and went to Brackenbury Road School. HMS Stork was moored on the Thames at Hammersmith and was, I believe, a training ship for boys.
Stephen thank you for this message. Will now google HMS Stork.
Stephen , interesting what you said re your father my mother born 1912 went to Brackenbury school and in those days they had mixed ages in a class . What is your fathers name as I have a school class photo with christian names on most of the children. My mothers name was Violet Taylor but for some unknown reason she was called Ada at school.
Brian Jeffreys
Brian. Thanks for this info. My father’s name was Leonard (Len) Lally. He lived in Carthew Road. Let’s hope he appears in your photo. If so, I would love a copy for my collection. My email is stephen at lally . org . uk. Thank you.
Josephine. You need to google HMS Stork Hammersmith as there are several with the same name. Found the following but not much else. Some photos. “HMS Stork (1882) was a 4-gun composite screw gunboat, launched in 1882, used as a survey ship from 1887, lent to the Navy League in 1913 and moored at Hammersmith as a training ship for boys,[2] broken up in 1950.”
Stephen can you send me your email address and I will check through if I have anything that might help
Brian
brianjeffreys1@gmail.com
Ancestry has just added information online about the Training Ship Exmouth- training records 1876-1918 that are held by the London Metropolitan Archive. I will post the URL here but not sure if is accepted or will be deleted from this post.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=61332
Josephine & Brian. Thank you for the lead to all the photos of Brackenbury Sch. Can’t see my father in any but one of the classroom scenes must have been typical of his room there. He left in 1928 and went to West Ken Central. My grandfather had a bicycle works in Cambridge Road – I presume under the railway arches – in the mid 1890s. Is that different to your Cambridge Grove?
How were the cottages originally named in the 19th century? Were the names chosen by their initial owners (if so, could they be renamed by later owners), or by the builders, or decided by the Borough itself?
I am specifically looking for information on Belton Cottage (which may now sport a number instead of a name, if the cottage is still there) on Black Lion Lane.
p.s. Belton Cottage must have been near the Black Lion Pub. which today is on S. Black Lion Lane. It seems they were both part of a group of buildings collectively known as “Denmark Cottages”.
Hi Jenny
i am trying to find information on my mother’s family, i have found 1961 K.DOUGLAS ESQ (KENETH DOUGLAS ) OF 8 BURBAGE ROAD SE 24, LONDON), which i beleive has a connection, could i please have your email address?,regards nena
Hi Nena. As far as I know I don’t have a K. Douglas in my family tree. The surname was in later years spelt with 2 ‘s’s (DOUGLASS) The only DOUGLASS connection I have to Hammersmith is that Mary DOUGLASS appears on 1841 census as above.
The School could of been St Marks.
There was one in W B Rd I don’t remember one in Parsons Green.
Was it Ancill St and St Marks School.
Dear all,
As part of our Centenary celebrations, local charity Stoll is delighted to welcome you to our archive exhibition on the 30th January 2017 at Fulham Mansions, 10 am – 3 pm.
The charity was established in 1916 by the theatre impresario Sir Oswald Stoll, who was moved by the number of wounded soldiers returning from the First World War. Stoll’s concern was that Veterans would not only need accommodation for themselves and their families, but also specialist support to deal with any trauma they were experiencing.
The Stoll exhibition is open to the community and will display some great archive information stretching over the last 100 years on how Stoll continues to support the nation’s ex-Service men and women and began in 1916. Join us and learn more about Sir Oswald Stoll, his vision to support ex-Service personnel and how Stoll works with vulnerable Veterans today.
Monday 30th January 2017 10:00am – 15:00pm
The Community Hall, Sir Oswald Stoll Mansions, 446 Fulham Road, London SW6 1DT
If you have any questions, do not hesitate to get in touch, by sending an email to becky.frankham@stoll.org.uk.
Thanks and hope to see you there.
Hi do you know the name of the pie & mash shop near parsons green station in fulham by novello st. It was there in the 90’s. Thanks
Was this also the fried fish shop that was located at 34 Parsons Green Lane, and opposite the L.T. works yard. Before WW2 it was called Ennever & Sons, but in the 50’s and for many years afterwards it was Jacksons. If it is not this one I suggest checking with the libraries in Kelly’s London Post office directory, which should give the names of other businesses
Hi
A relative was a business partner in a 2-man ltd company called Goldhawk Publicity Services, which may have started by offering sign writing but was certainly connected with scenery painting for the theatres in the area, and working with gold leaf. There is even a family story that the relative guilded the Shepherds Bush Empire but I have no idea if that is true. Nor been there to take a look.
I have found the company listed in phone books between 1929 and 1936 – with three addresses over the period. In 1929: 288 Uxbridge Rd, W12. In 1929, 1930 and Feb 1931: 158a Blythe Rd, W14 (which I think comes under Fulham/Hammersmith?) and Aug 1931 onwards to 1935: 7 Ridgemount St, WC1
Apart from phone books, can anyone direct me to collections of old photos, directories or places where the business might have advertised, as I am intrigued as to what exactly they did. Another puzzle is that the relatives always referred to their premises as ‘the club’ so I wonder if they ran the business from rented rooms in some sort of club? Looking at Google streetview, Blythe Rd looks like a residence, but possibly their later address was a club – there is a new building there now so cannot tell.
Hope someone can help.
Thanks.
Val
I was wondering if you could help I lived in street called ansell or Hansell as a small child in the late 60s till 1970 all I remember is it located between fulham football ground and St stephens hospital I went to a school on fulham palace rd called st matthews I think I’m trying to trace the exact location of the street I think I remember my mum at the time saying we had to move as the houses were being knocked down to built flats
Maxine, it was probably Ancill Street but you’ve got your hospitals mixed up, I think. It would have been Charing Cross Hospital as St Stephens was at the Chelsea end of Fulham Road but closed in 1989.
Any history on Woolmer Cottages in 1871 would be greatly appreciated.
I wonder If someone could help.. As a child I stayed with relatives in Maurice St. We have lost touch. The family as I knew it consisted of my great aunt Mary. Her daughter Peggy and husband Bill. They has a daughter Karen. Bill died in around 1995? Peggy moved out to live nearer her only child Karen. I’m hoping to trace them as it brings back such good memories
This is always a difficult one, but what one can do is check the voters list at the library for the surname , and then check the names for other people round about , and compare these names with the present day voting list. You have not given a Family name to check
Dear Fulham & Hammersmith Historical Society,
I am a local resident and have recently been informed of the proposed demolition of 230-234 and 236 North End Road and 88-90 Lillie Road.
Though not the best kept of buildings, as far as I can tell from records, these were the original constructions on the site when the area was converted from market gardens.
Is anyone aware of the historical significance of these buildings? Though in poor condition they are presentable and I am concerned that should they be demolished we will be losing another trace of original Fulham.
The current applications are available via the LBHF website, reference :2016/03540/FUL.
Yours,
Jay
Don’t know if my message has got through.
John Dedman
Any pictures of King Street RC school. Circa 1850…
My ancestors Agnes Kezia Herbert and her sister Theresa Herbert attended King Street Catholic school. 1851 census. Their father was John Rogers Herbert, R A, Royal Academician and their mother was Kezia Mary Herbert nee Dedman my gggaunt.
Any info on this school, please.
Thanking you for a reply.
John Dedman
Would be nice to know about strategic planning and housing development policy from 2016 going forward.
Clearly the Council is your best source but you could also contact the Fulham Society who maintain a keen interest in all planning activity. http://www.fulhamsociety.org/home/contact/
Would be nice to know if my message has got through. I am trying to find out something about King Street Catholic School Hammersmith that my ancestors Agnes Kezia Herbert and her sister Theresa attended in 1851. On the census of 1851.
johndedman@hotmail.com
Hi, my father was a lifelong Fulham fan. I have checked a year book “Fulham a Century of Memorable Matches” and your relative’s name does not appear1960-1970 in line up. However, I see Johnny Haynes was in a temporary managerial role In 1968 so he got to meet Fulham’s best!
Hello
Have you trileed getting in touch with the club.
Not sure about Brook Green but there are lots of great pics of the Palais on the internet throughout the years especially the 50’s!
Give me your email address and I’ll send you some photos of The Palais 1959/60 andsome of brook green
Also check ebay or other online auction sites Brook Green Hammersmith
Hi I’m trying to find an old story of my grandad as a child . The story goes he was asking Penney for the guy and painted his face with lipstick someone took his photograph and the next day it was in the local newspaper they called him the pink boy of Fulham. From 1927 to 1940 . Please help
Hi there,
My great grandfather was called Philip Goldstein. He was a retired grocer who lived at 15 Dewhurst Road and died in 1915.
I know he immigrated from Poland in 1899 and lived at that address for the rest of his life,
I’d be interested to find out more about him, especially where his shop was, and what his original Jewish name might have been.
I have found a mention of him in the London gazette but not much else.
Any ideas gratefully received!
Antonio
Hello!! My name is Maria. I looking for any records or photos of my father-in-law Peter James White. He played for fulham around 1966 to 1970. He passed away a some time ago and was very close to his son (my husband). He has had a rough year and for hi birthday i would love to find sonething about his dad. I know is a lot to ask.
Thank you very much for your time!
Where would I find images of Brook Green and Hammersmith Palais in the late 1940s and 50s?
Thank you.
Dear F&HHS
My ancestor John Hamilton was a master Draper. He lived at 64 Hammersmith Rd in 1881 then was located at 156 Hammersmith Rd,Hammersmith from 1891 until his death in 1908. Can you tell me if he had a shop at this address or at another location in the area. I have been unable to find any reference to him or a business in his name.
Kind regards
Sue.
John Hamilton is classed as a linen draper. The address is to be found in the commercial section of the Middlesex Post Office directory for 1878 , however not in the private residents section there a John Hamilton is living at Stamford Brook House. Might he have been wealthy enough to have a different private residence.
The 64 H.Rd address must have been a business premises
Thank you for your prompt reply. On John Hamilton’s death certificate and Will his address is given as Melbourne House, 156 Hammersmith Road Hammersmith. He and his family plus domestic staff were also living there in the 1881 and 1901 UK census. It would seem from this information that this was his residence. Perhaps the property was big enough to cater for both his family and business? Is there a record of a Melbourne House at this address? I could not find anything online re this property. Any information would be much appreciated. Kind regards Sue Hamilton
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I am trying to found out the history and people who have lived inmt house. 156a and b stephendale road fulham sw6 2.
Thanks
Penny Bates
You may be able to search for this in Ancestry which can be accessed in the borough libraries. However the best bet is to go to Hammersmith Library 1st Floor on a Monday or Tuesday where the archivist or a volunteer could direct you to the electoral registers, Census upto 1911 and some street Directories all of which may be helpful. If you live away from the borough now then please email the Archives (details above).
Hi,
I’m researching the history of a Triumph T15OV Trident motorcycle, bought in boxes from a motorcycle shop in Acton, in April 1997. I presume the shop has now ceased trading but wonder if you have any information regarding possible businesses and names of proprietors?
Best Regards,
Bruce Cox
Hello, did the T150 have t160 valve gear, lightweight pushrods and an extra head gasket to lower compression? i had a T150v to this spec….
Thanks for replying. I like the sound of your T150V but doubt that it’s the same bike as this one was in boxes when bought from the shop in 1996/7. It was also unregistered which strongly suggests a repatriated import. The tank had been restored and the seat is in too good a condition to be original, although that too was in the box. Curiously, I have been in touch with both the seller, a Mr Nicholson, who lives on a house boat and can’t recall the bike but says it would have been a runner; and the buyer, a Mr Clarke, who says the bike was complete but in boxes, and bought from a shop in Acton! I have the original Bill of Sale, which is signed by both parties, and there is no mention of a shop in Acton. The bike was restored for Mr Clarke by a Mr Sears (now emigrated to Australia) and the quality of the rebuild suggests an extremely capable engineer, although he doesn’t seem to be known within the Trident population.
Hello, I am looking for any photographs of Richmond Gardens in the 1950’s and 60’s please. I lived there until the houses were demolished for the current tower blocks.
Yours sincerely Janet Dingvean nee Hook
The library should have photographs. Incidentally the following is up for sale on ebay at the moment
1869 Vellum Lease Indenture Colour Plan No 4 Richmond Gardens, Shepherds Bush at around £30. Check it out.
Hi, are you Janet Hook, brother of Stuart? I’m John Adkins from the old 31 Richmond Gardens. Contact me on; johnadkinsuk@yahoo.co.uk
I do have some photos.
To the committee of the Society
I am trying to make contact with your Society in order to invite a representative to the unveiling of a plaque in Lyons Walk to commemorate LEO – the world’s first business computer on the 65th anniversary of its first routine run.
I am having trouble identifying contact details via the website and would very much welcome it if someone could contact me –
Hilary Caminer
Hon Secretary
LEO Computers Society
hilary.caminer@leo-computers.org.uk#
Many thanks
Very many thanks I will pass your message to our Chairman.
I will have a look on Ancestry tonight for J Lyons, I really appreciate your help with the info. I get so excited when I get closer to finding out about an ancestor & where they worked, very proud of my Fulham Family. Thank you again
Hi I am trying to find the name of solictors that were at number 1 Goldhawk rd London W12 8QQ IN march 1981 my document only has a signature I A. Messer or similar ??esser (solicitor) law society can only help if I have the correct name please help regards brian
Hi I was going to suggest Archives or British Library for Directories or yellow pages but tried google!
This link https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/48817/supplement/15676/data.pdf bottom right corner shows the solicitors at 1 Goldhawk Road as Webber and Co. Good luck.
That’s fantastic, thank you ever so much, you’ve put a spring in my step tonight! See, it pays to ask, I can go forward now with my research. Hopefully I can put a name to the watch I have. Thank you, Sue
Ahh thank you so much for the info on J Lyons. My father told me it was at the end of North End Road, really appreciate your reply. Do you know where I could photos of J Lyons or staff records please? I have my great Uncles engraved watch from them, it was a gift for 60 years of service to the company.
J Lyons was a large & well-known company there’s probably tons of info to get your teeth into. Look up J Lyons archives in ancestry.co.uk and believe there is info held at London Metropolitan Architectural archives – good luck in your search
That’s right I worked there for Telfords until they moved up to Northamptonshire
I wouldn’t leave London so I got paid off
I remember we used to call cadby hall colditz .a grim looking building one way in with security watching you especially when you leave in case you had pies up ya jumper .but you could leave by the staff shop where you could buy j Lyons cakes and other thing very cheap . couldn’t go in that way only out .I worked on the loading dock filling lorries with cages of food .wasn’t a great job but had some good mates there ..
His name was Walter Henry Stroud, and he lived at 13 Linver Road – and also other addresses in the Fulham area (11 Lodge Avenue and 23 Bettridge Road being two) during the 1880s and 1890s. He was born in Rampisham in Dorset in 1864. The family moved to Newport in 1900 and, sadly, he was killed in an industrial accident in a steel works a few years later (1903). On his marriage certificate he is listed as a baker and on the 1891 census as an assistant baker; was sharing the house was his mother Johanna and Walter Henry’s younger sister, Kate, who had been born at 32 Baldwin Street Newport, Monmouthshire on 24th November 1876. Also living in the house is Frederick Weidmeier, a foreman baker, and his two daughters.
I have quite a bit of info on Newport Ill take a look and see if I can turn up any thing
Hello
The company was J Lyons and was based at Cadby Hall in Hammersmith Road W6.
My great-grandfather is listed as a baker in the 1891 census, although they moved to South Wales before the Great War. The family lived in Linver Road Fulham; I do not know where he was employed as yet.
Hi Ray if you give me your GGF’s name I will see if he has popped up in my research
Hi there, I’m trying to find out about the company ‘Lyons’ that use to be at the Talgarth End (Olympia End) of North End Road, can you help in any way please? My great Uncle worked there for 60 years & I’m trying to gather more info on the company & photos if possible. Thanking you in advance for your help.
Hi, If you can visit the LBHF Archive at Hammersmith Library there are a number of books and company magazines about Lyons including the development of LEO an early computer business program especially for the company. There will also be photos of the street and factory but you will probably need to visit on a Monday or Tuesday to gain access to these. You should be able to log into Ancestry at the archive and find addresses for relatives if before 1911 and there are also Electoral Registers, street directories and some records of births and deaths. Good luck.
Hi I am trying to find out if there are any articles in Fulham newspapers regarding an elderly lady skipping on Ester Ranzens programme That’s Life in the 1970s,down North End Road,Fulham
Hi, Fulham and other local papers are held on microfiche at the archive in Hammersmith Library but it would take a very long time to search at random across a decade. Your best bet might be to write the BBC and ask if their archives can pin down the date as a starting point, this is their website http://www.bbc.co.uk/informationandarchives/access_archives Good luck
Hi. I am looking for picture or details of a Florists shop in Fulham in 1970’s. It was called “The Flower Pot”. Thank you.
Hi. I am looking for a picture of a florists shop in Fulham in 1970’s. It was called The Flower Pot. Thank you.
Hi. My mums family lived in Angel Road Hammersmith in early 1900’s until about start of 2nd world war. Just wondered what housing conditions were like and how my gran would’ve provided for her children when my grandad died in 1909. Their surname was Monkman.
Hi, we might be related. My nan was born Monkman. My great, great grandad was John W Monkman and they lived around Hammersmith.
There was a pub in Rylston Road called the Lord Clyde, now demolished.
Would any one be able to help ? trying to list a building of residential flats -dated around 1890’s or a little late, we were told by one of the older residents Doris who has sense passed away that the building was used to house workers from a Brewer named Clyde Brewer, Hence the name of the residential Building ” Clyde Flats” The Brewer cover a large area one side Lily road other Rylston road, apparently bombed during the war, now a block of council flats ,
can any one verify this information,
The Lord Clyde Public House, Frederick Wm. Kennedy, prop, 124 Estcourt road, Fulham SW , it was there in 1911. The pub was demolished in the 1960’s although it was listed as late as 1971. Clyde flats were built on the site, I believe. Rylston road itselfdates from 1878. Old OS maps which can be seen at the library will show the best development of area
Tony call me on 07783938535
Anthony please call me on 07783938535
Picture of Lord Clyde pub has just been added to the I grew up in Fulham blog on Facebook.nov 22nd 2017
I think my Nan worked there with her sister in the year 1020′ onwards…I’ll double check with a distant relative on my family tree.
Your members might be interested to know that at Linden House on the Upper Mall, on Wednesday evenings, there are some wonderful and very inexpensive talks on art history. At the moment it’s portraits, but other themes are coming up too.
My wife and her family lived there in the early 50s, the name is Dutch.
I understand that my great grandfather ran a funeral directors in Fulham in the 1910-20s. I would be intetested to know if there are there any records of a G Lake funeral directors in any of the information the historical society holds. Thank you for your help.
George Thomas Lake and Sons were located at Crown Road North End, Fulham and are listed in the 1878 Post Office directory of Middlesex.
George Thomas Lake was also my paternal Great Grandfather.
I have more info if you wish.
Just putting it together now. I actually have a photograph.
Hello Everyone,
I have family that used to live on Bulow Road, Fulham. Living at different addresses on the street,throughout the generations. Anyone with knowledge of this road, would be great!
Family names are Bushnell/ Murphy.
Thank you
Natalie
Dear Natalie
Bulow road used to exist between Broughton road and Bagley’s Lane in Sands End. the whole area was demolished some 50/60 years ago. I can send you photos of the road just prior to demolition (reco@clara.co.uk) and what it looks like now.
Hi. On exploring my ancestry I know for a time my granddad lived in Bulow Road as a child in 1890s – 1900. Our family name was Hearne/ Hearn
Dear reco1000
I also had relatives living in Bulow Road no 13 during the 20 and 30s, if you have any photos of the road before demolition took place I would really appreciate it.
Many thanks in advance
Diane
I have a photo of Bulow road taken in the 1950s. I am not sure how to send a photo to you
There was also a Bakery in Humbolt Road W6
A B Hemmings.
Thank you
Hi there,
We are filming a story about a gentleman whose family business was Snowflake Laundry in Shepherds Bush London between 1900s-1920s. I am on the hunt for images/video of the laundry business from the era to help tell his story and that of the laundry industry.
Does anyone know of any images of the laundry business? I have seen a snowflake laundry van which was on ebay but it no longer seems to be on the internet sadly.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Kind regards,
Nia
Can anyone help with the location of Lilly Terrace, New Road, Shepherds Bush? It existed in the 1860s, but may have disappeared when New Road became Goldhawk Road. I am looking to find the location of No 9 Lilly Terrace, the home in 1861 of writer and traveller Lucy Atkinson.
Hi, I have looked at the large scale 1861 OS map in the LBHF archive and although several other terraces are marked Lillie or Lilly terrace is not. Neither is it in the earliest Kelly’s directory available (1896) by when it had become Goldhawk Road. You may find more if you visit yourself. (details above)
Voters list or census returns can also help locate a road or buildings.
I’ve just found a map from 1862 which shows a ‘Lily Street’ on New Street, between Wells Road and Serle Terrace. I have a feeling that this is Lilly Terrace, which would have been built at around that time. It does not show the railway bridge, which must have been built later. You can see that there is a terrace of houses behind the shopfronts on the road.
Can anyone tell me the location/present name of Lilly Terrace, in Shepherds Bush? I am researching author and traveller Lucy Atkinson who lives at No 9 in the early 1860s.
Hello, is it possible to confirm if you have any archive photos of Thornfield Road W12 8JQ between property No. 26 and 50
Required for research at University
Kindest regards
Hi
You should contact the LBHF archive (see above) I have checked and there are a number of photographs of these addresses from the 60s and also after the bomb damage with a general view from much earlier. If you visit you could use a camera for £5 for private use. If you cannot visit email the Archivist and stae exactly what you want. She will then be able to tell you what it will cost to email scanned photos to you. You may find this site of interest: http://bombsight.org/bombs/14707/
Good luck
Hi there,
I am the archive researcher for a BBC programme called Heir Hunters which follows the search for heirs and discovers interesting social history stories along the way.
We are filming a story about a gentleman whose family business was Snowflake Laundry on Wendell Road Shepherds Bush London between 1900s-1920s. I am on the hunt for images/video of Snowflake and the local area. Does anyone have any images or video that we could use to help tell the story?
Any help is very much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Nia Campbell
(Archive researcher flame TV)
The laundry was located at 9 Wendell Road Shepherds Bush W12. The picture can still be found on the web at
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/311671633842
The seller listed the item 3 times unsuccessfully. An email to them might find it still available.
Hi amazingly I managed to track the buyer down and bought this image which is very exciting! Thanks for your help, Nia
Hi there, I’m researching the Hackney Soldiers’ and Sailors’ Society, a charity set up after WW1 to help house and support injured Veterans who were quite often without a home.
I’m trying to find a little more out about the Society and wondered if you had any information?
I work for Stoll the Veterans charity and am currently going through our archive material which has a lot of content regarding the Society.
Many thanks in advance for your help.
Sarah Skinner
I’m researching bread during the First World War. Hammer smith was one of the first areas where bakers worked in cooperation to release men for the war under a pooling scheme. I would love to know what information you have on the baking trade and to hear from people whose relatives were bakers, millers or yeast dealers in the area?
J. Lyons.
Any bread making in Hammersmith must include the company that was a substantial food manufacturer, with factories at Cadby Hall in Hammersmith, and from 1921 one at Greenford, producing bread, cakes, pies, tea, coffee and ice cream.
The J. Lyons & Co. papers are now stored in the London Metropolitan Archives. The niece and nephew of the Gluckstein brothers were Hannah Gluckstein, a painter; and Louis Gluckstein, a Conservative politician. A descendant of the Salmon side of the original partnership is Nigella Lawson.
Wonderful, thank you. I have of course come across J Lyons & Co but had not appreciated where archive records are kept. As the First World War progressed bakers were put under ever increasing pressure to release men into the army. I keep coming across references to a pooling/delivery scheme used in Hammersmith but can’t find the details. The Military Tribunals and baking businesses shared a lot of information and if a scheme was effective in one area of the country they urged others to adopt this. I’ll keep going to see if I can crack it.
Great to see Nigella’s connection, she writes extremely well I hope I can turn my narrative into something just as good.
Fulham Football Club had a ladies team back in the 70/80s.
All paid for by mr Fayad and won everything ,until he pulled the plug.Any one know of a family named Wilson from William parnel house, then Rosaline road from 1939 to 60s, 9 children and was langford road bombed?in 1940,and what date was mulgrave rd bombed. sorry about mixed post.
Hello. There’s a Sussex Place which is off Queen Caroline Street W6. I hope this helps.
Hi My great Grandma used to work at 1 Sussex Grove Fulham but I can only find Sussex Street is this the same? If not do you know what it is now called?
Any info much appreciated
Thank you
Amanda
Hi there,
I am writing a dissertation about women’s football and its history and was just wondering if you or your members know of any ladies football teams in Fulham and Hammersmith area post world war one right up til 1990?
Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks
James
Hi I would like to no the history of the old bank in long Eaton on Tamworth road across the road from long Eaton train station as we are living in it now so I I’m just curious about the history of it could you send me some pictures of it if you have any or can get any please thank you so much
I think you need to contact the archives or history society in your own area. Try the County Archives at:
http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/culture-leisure/archives/visiting-archives
Greetings!
I am researching pubs that my great grandfather, Thomas John (or TJ) Lincoln worked at in Fulham in the early 1900s. Around 1899-1905. This relative managed various pubs around greater London. Possibly for the Fuller, Smith and Turner Brewery.
At one time Great Grandfather and his young family lived at 265 Wandsworth Bridge Road in Fulham.
-Would anyone know if this location was ever a pub?
Google maps shows a terrace (I think that is the style.) house (converted to multiple flats per real estate sites) at that location now. I am not sure how old the current house is. Was it built after WWII?
Also, were there ever any pubs in Fulham with tudor stye architecture similar to The Tudor House Hotel in Market Drayton? Please see attached link.
https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x487a890f198c8331%3A0x7f7d24e6e8b5371e!2m5!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!3m1!7e115!4shttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.agoda.com%2Fzh-tw%2Ftudor-house-hotel%2Fhotel%2Fmarket-drayton-gb.html!5sTudor%20House%20Hotel%2C%20Market%20Drayton%2C%20shropshire%20-%20Google%20Search&imagekey=!1e3!2s-ArR9MORY48A%2FVw0Z1lHdOJI%2FAAAAAAABpso%2FeOcSmAqOuGkqFONF4M23uQ94irOzC2LgQ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhwrLP79DOAhVB2WMKHeY_D0oQoioInQEwCg
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Sincerely,
Julie Lincoln
Dear Julie
265 I believe is on the corner of Rosebury Road. I think I recall that this was once a shop. Opposite is St Matthew’s Church that was rebuilt around about 2000. 265 might have been rebuilt about the same time. My family had pubs in Fulham in 19th Cent and before. I cannot think of one in the Tudor style I might be wrong). There is however a mock tutor school (19th Cent) in Broomhouse Lane not too far away
Derek, thank you for your prompt response. Perhaps my great grandfather knew your family since they had pubs?!
Are there any pubs from the 19th century still around in Fulham? Or were they destroyed in WWII , or due to redevelopment?
Thanks again.
Julie
Hi Julie
I am sure there are many old pubs left in Fulham, I have not ben there for a couple of years. My family owned the Wheatsheaf in Fulham road a couple of hundred years ago.. I think. My grandmother owned the “Old Rose” near the Gasworks in the 19th Cent.
Might I suggest you try and purchase books by my friend Frank Czucha
“Old sands End, Fulham” ISBN9781840335262
“Old Fulham” ISBN9781840336450
Both published by Stenlake Publishing Ltd
http://www.stenlake.co.uk
If I can help further my email is reco@clara.co.uk
Derek
The Wheatsheaf has become a Sainsbury’s in the last few years although this was the Victorian pub there appears to have been a Wheatsheaf long before Fulham or Walham Green was developed. The books mentioned are fascinating and this site may be useful too:
http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/london/sw6_fulham.html
There are still plenty of old pubs worth a visit.
I used to do discos in The Wheatsheaf’s downstairs bar in the ’70s when it was run by Jim Winter and then a Scotsman called Harry. It became a Sainsbury’s local when it went the way of a lot of pubs a couple of years ago. Sad to see it go but that’s the way it seems to be now.
This book has details of local pubs. May be out of print.. This is the cost of an Amazon copy.
Hammersmith and Fulham Pubs (Archive Photographs) by Chris Amies
Price: £8.59
Binding: Paperback Publisher: The History Press Date published: 01/06/2004 ISBN-13: 9780752432533 ISBN: 0752432532
Hi Chris, like most library’s do, Hammersmith & Fulham should hold this information. Before I moved out of Chelsea, I wanted to check where Luna Street use to be at the World’s End. The staff showed me old maps etc & gave me a photo copy of it, worth asking.
Hi Sue, Mark (see below) has given me pretty much what I wanted, and we live 130 miles from Hammersmith, so a library visit is a little tricky, but I will look for their website. Thanks for your help. Chris
No worries at all. It’ll be worth enquiring about the old maps, they look great along side ancestry records etc. All the best
Hi
Vision of Britain is a good source of old maps on line. Try this link:
John
Luna Street was a turning off Blantyre Street, east of the World’s End Pub. The whole area is now the World’s end Estate. I can scan a map to you if you like
Hi, we’ve just received a copy of my wife’s father’s birth certificate, and it shows the address as 2 Wharf Road, Hammersmith (possibly North Hammersmith) in 1906. We’re unable to locate this road on Google Earth, so think it may have been demolished or had a name change. We’d be grateful for any assistance in finding this road. Kind regards Chris Warren
I believe it’s called Coal Wharf Road these days, Chris.
Hi Mark, thanks for your response. Unfortunately, still unable to locate Coal Wharf Road in Hammersmith on Google Earth or Streetmap. Is it me? Cheers Chris
I don’t think it’s just you, Chris, I couldn’t locate it on either even though a Google search seems to suggest you can find it on them. It seems to run off the Uxbridge Road according to something else I read. I checked my London A-Z and according to that it exists on page 73. Unfortunately, for me, I’ve lost pages 71-76!!
It seems to have changed its name around 1938 and now sits just between Shepherds Bush mainline rail station and Shepherds Bush Central Line Station, close to the roundabout where Uxbridge Road meets Holland Park Avenue and might be the first narrow turning on the right of the Uxbridge Road after the roundabout. I can find addresses for a new development on Coal Wharf Road so think it might not be a road as we know it although it bears the name of one.
Adverts for the new housing in Coal Wharf Road says “a massive new retail and leisure centre backs on to the site” so I imagine they’re talking about the Westfield Centre.
Hi Mark – thanks for your help. 51.504864, -0.218046 . If you use those co-ordinates in Google Earth, just confirm for me I’m now in the right place. Cheers Chris
Looks correct to me, Chris.
Hello, I do have Wharf road on a map and it did run parallel to the Latimer road with an entrance half way down Latimer. Part of it ran by the side of the West London Junction Railway and it seems to run into the Coal depot right to the west of the then Uxbridge Road Station at the Eastern tip of Shepherds Bush Green, and coming out at the end of Holland road. Map is dated 1924
Re the location of Bridge Road, Hammersmith Bridge Road, the post code is W6 9DB. You should be able to find it on Google Earth.
Bridge Road, Hammersmith – that is the road my grandparents lived on in 1941 when my dad was born. I’d love to hear from anyone who knows of this road (that can’t be found on Google as it must have been renamed), or any word of a William Ernest Green and any Green community of that time or since in Hammersmith who may be connected. Many thanks, Vince
In response to David Matthews search for pub names near the College of St Mark and St John around the 50s and 60s, these may help. The Nell Gwynn, corner of Rewell Street and New Kings Road; The Wheatsheaf, corner of New Kings Road and Holmead Road; The Rising Sun, corner of Holmead Road and Fulham Road; and The Stamford Arms, corner of Fulham Road and Wandon Road. This is definitive – ish. I was born in one and slung out of the rest.
Regards
James Kelso
Hello
My name is Kathy Geairn my great grandmother was place in St Joseph s home for Boys with her sister in 1896 our family would love if you have any information. Their names are
Mary Madigan born in Chelsea Eng. January 1887 she was sent to Canada as an indenture servant in 1902 with thirty six boys and her sister Hellen Madigan born Kent, Eng. 1881 Nickednamed Nellie. If you can find any information that would be wonderful.
Have you tried the site British Home Children? They are working towards having all the names of children that went there under the scheme online. They have not got too far down the alphabet. If you have a date it is possible to search the passenger lists for ships out of Liverpool with destination. I know the Laurentian was used with Montreal as the port. My relative ended up in Ottawa. I then found him in the census.
Not sure if it is true for every British scheme, but we were able to get annual reports from a ?social worker until he was old enough to leave, and presumably wished to go.
I was a student at the College of St Mark and St John between 1961 and 1965. We have been trying to remember the name of the pub off the Fulham Road and opposite the back entrance to the college. Can you help? Many thanks. David
David, I went to Sloane, next door to the college and think you must be talking about either the Black Bull on the corner of Fulham Road and Billing Road or maybe the Fox and Pheasant in Billing Road. Both are still in existence and I arrange my old school’s get-togethers which frequently start in the Fox and Pheasant.
I would like to know when the old Library was demolished, in Lillie Rd.
Regards Len.
Good evening,
I am currently undertaking some research into the military hospitals established by Parliament during the English Civil Wars.
A hospital was established at Parsons Green in March 1645, but according to recent research, the actual location may have been Sir Nicholas Crisp’s house. Is this something that you are aware of?
I’m trying to identify the location of this house. From what I have been able to find out so far, the likely location would have been a site with a river-frontage, to the west of the present day Frank Banfield Park. Are you able to suggest a more precise location?
Thank you for your help and I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Best wishes,
David.
Dear David,
The FHHS Web-Master has this evening drawn my attention to your query of 8 August, because he thinks it ‘up my street’ (with some justification!). I am an amateur historian, living in Fulham’s Palace Riverside Ward, with an interest in the History of Medicine (especially military medicine), and a Volunteer History Tour Guide at the Palace.
I have recently dashed off some comments on the Fulham Palace Restoration Project, and the plans for interpretation. My main concern was that we should not overlook the political significance of Fulham during the English Civil Wars: see below!
As to the location of the Parliamentary Military Hospital, I have understood that this was, indeed, on Crisp’s Crabtree estate. There is little information in Whitting, P. D. (ed.) ‘A History of Fulham’ (London, Fulham History Society, 1970), and I have not checked Feret, C.J. ‘Fulham Old and New’ (London, Leadenhall Press, 1900).
However, a quick web search confirms that after Sir Nicholas Crisp (1598-1666) originally built his ‘Great House’ on the Hammersmith riverside part of Fulham, Bishop William Juxon (Bishop of London and Lord of the Manor of Fulham, of course) granted a lease in 1642 so that Crisp could extend his estate. In 1647, The Great House was ransacked by Parliamentary troops. It was subsequently confiscated by Oliver Cromwell, and used by General Fairfax to house wounded soldiers. It was returned to Crisp on the restoration of the Monarchy in 1660. Later called, ‘Brandenburgh House’, it has since been demolished.
I recall that some research I did in connection with a lecture in the Maritime History series at King’s College London, War Studies Dept., indicated that, very unusually for the mid-17th C., local women were employed as early nurses to tend the wounded troops in the Crabtree Military Hospital ….
I shall take the liberty of sending you a separate email to which I shall attach the comments I posted on the current Fulham Palace Restoration Project and the need to explore the period of the English Civil Wars.
Best wishes
Jane B-D
I am compiling a “This is Your Life” style book for my father who once worked for Hammonds and electrical firm on the Fulham Palace Road in 1971. I would like any photos and information about the firm and also a Portuguese restaurant called Manzi’s.
Gayle, I can’t help much but you’ve helped me. I used to use Manzis for a late night meal and a drink in the ’70s but had always remembered it as being Spanish. Lovely place, very popular with good food and a laid back atmolsphere.
I am looking for any photos or information of the Battersea Dairy owned by the Owen family in the 50’s
I believe there was a film of some sort (possibly a series) filmed at guinness trust dring the 1960’s?? I would like to find out the name? Inhave searched but had no luck.
An episode of the Sweeney called “I want the man” you’ll find it on YouTube!
Don’t forget Colet Court, prep. for St. Paul’s. At the time both were in Hammersmith Road, W.14?
My parents where married in 1968 in St Augustus church fulham palace road. They never went back to collect their wedding album i think from a local photography shop. Is it possible to trace these photos ? What where the names of local photograhers at that time?
Try camera cuss used to be in Shepherds Bush
Taylors was the eel, pie and mash shop, still remember it, lovely grub, now what was the name of the fish and chip shop down the King St near Coopers the fishing tackle shop where most of my pocket money ended up.
I have listed on eBay a floral watercolour inscribed “Jane Fryer the Cedars 1839”. Fryer ran a boarding school on Hammersmith Road. The Cedars was demolished in 1852. eBay item number:311662573325
I lived at no 34 St Peters Terrace Fulham from 1970 – 1980 and would like any information including photos of that time
I have just found out that my Nan & Grandad got married at St Peters, then your comments came up in my email, how funny ! So much info has came up on Fulham on Ancestry.com, even found out where a lot of my Fulham Ancestors are buried.
I have a great grandmother married in St. Peter’s. When last in England I took four photos of the church. Not outstanding but if you are not close to Fulham, would be happy to send you.
Hi,
I am currently researching the history of a plot of land on 113 Munster road, and my research has revealed there used to be a house on it called Colehill Villa, though I cannot find out when it was built, when it was destroyed, or why it was destroyed. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated!
Best Wishes,
Ned Tidmarsh
For many years this was a nursery. It was demolished in 1895. (Feret). Checkout the old Kellys Post office directories to find change of use etc at library
Hi, I am researching a relative called Harvey Adam, 1883-1917, On the 1911 census he is living in Benbow Road, Hammersmith & is a schoolmaster in a private school, He was also B.A. (Lond.). B.Sc. Fellow of the Royal Economic Society., He died in France in WW1, Is there any way I could find what private schools there was in the area & if poss which he worked at, Many thanks
Helen Groom, h_groom@sky.com
Benbow Road is between Hammersmith Grove and Brackenbury Road. There are two independent schools in Hammersmith. Go dolphin and Latymer girls school in Iffley Road and St Pauls boys school on the Barnes side of Hammersmith bridge on Lonsdale Road. Both have websites. Hope this helps
Anna
Hi there, I’m trying to locate photos of 11 Chelmsford Street, Fulham in the 1890’s, any ideas of where I can find some please. Thanking you in advance for your help. Sue
Hi Susan, I just saw your post asking about 11 Chelmsford Street, I happen to think my gg grandmother may have lived at 3 Chelmsford Street in 1891, the Willmott Family. Is that name familar to you considering its around the same time you are asking about. Thanks!
Hi id really like some information on flora gardens hammersmith building and what was there before the flats were built and if there was any incidents happen within the block or number 123. Also any desths.
Hi there,
My name is Claire Fort I work for a TV production company called Monkey. We are making a TV show celebrating the 1950’s and are looking to speak to people who used to dances in the 50’s at local dance halls, so the Hammersmith Palais.
Please get in contact if you think you could be of any help. My email is claire.fort@monkeykingdom.com
In 1955 aged 18 I danced at the Hammersmith Palais on its beautiful dance floor with tables round the edges, sadly now
demolished/ I danced to Joe Loss and Lou Praeger and met my
husband there. I lived in Hammersmith until Oct 1955 when I married and went to live in Glasgow. Not much of interest I know
but I have happy memories of the Palais.
Hi there, i used to go to hammersmith palais every saturday(juniors) after saturday morning pictures at the
now new apollo if that helps. then on to have pie, mashand liquor at the pie and mash shop opposite the apollo.
I can add a little to what the lady (Miss Gutteridge) said about the pie/mash shop opposite the Gaumont (Appollo). Me and 4/5 others used to meet-up in Oddies cafe on Sunday mornings, sit at the back with a coffee or two. Then later we started to bring guitars in and play skiffle etc. which we did for quite awhile until the owner had enough! We were also basically the same boys (band later) that welcomed Fess Parker (Davy Crockett) on the the steps of the Gaumont when he made a guest appearance to promote the film in 1955. I still have the picture of us playing ‘Davy Crockett’ as he came up which was published in the WLO newspaper! We were aged about 16/17 and in at the start of guitar playing plus our guitar evenings under Hammersmith Bridge! Really great days and I certainly miss them.
Mike Chilvers
Do you have any information about Mr Harper who was the first owner of the fish stall on Shepherds bush market. He is a friends grandfather who is trying to research his family history
Hello Ged
To be able to help need more information please:
Full name of Mr Harper
Where born
Birthday
His parents full names if known
What year did he first have the fish stall
I thought you might be interested in our next talk at The William Morris Society:
Listing in the C21, Simon Hawkins
Saturday 9 July, 2.15pm
Kelmscott House, 26 Upper Mall, Hammersmith W6 9TA
Most of us are comfortable with protecting a Georgian townhouse or the remains of a Roman villa but what about our more recent volume of built heritage? How do Historic England decide what to assess today and how do they make their recommendations?
Simon Hawkins is an Assistant Designation Adviser with Historic England and a trustee at The William Morris Society with specific responsibility for the House and Gardens.
Tickets: £12, £10 (WMS members), £5 (students)
Online booking: http://williammorrissociety.org/event/listing-in-the-21st-century/
Tel: 020 8741 3735
Many thanks,
Cathy De’Freitas
Society Administrator
Hi Jennie
We moved to Hammersmith in 1956 when I was 5 years old and my dad worked for Harrods Depository. All I remember is that every Christmas they staged a huge Xmas party for all the children of employees where you wore a colour coded badge so that Father Christmas would know which (wonderful!) present to give you!
Hi Nicola, not quite sure what you mean by the history of the ‘logo’ it’s the crossed keys of St Peter who is deemed to be the keeper of the gates of Heaven. As an old ( very ) boy of St Peters I hope this helps. Best wishes, Geoffrey See.
Nicola, I was not sure what you meant by logo but I also assume you mean the crossed keys of St Peter. St Peter’s was a church of England infants school affiliated to St Peter’s church which is just round the corner from the school in Black Lion Lane.
Like Geoffrey, I am also a very old boy. I started there at the age of four in 1931.
Regards Dakota.
Do you have any information concerning hammersmith county school receiving an award from unicef or unesco for raising money for books. It was in the early 70’s. The award happened at Westminster Hall and was presented by Sir William Pitt. Unfortunately I have lost the article that was published in the local shepherds bush gazette. My name is linda slattery and I organised a sponsored walk which helped raise funds. Miss Jenkins was also at the awards.
Kind regards
Linda slattery
Hammersmith library will have bound copies of Shepherd’s Bush gazette, so check it out.
Hello! Does anybody know the history of the logo of St Peter’s Primary School in Hammersmith? Thanks for letting me know, kind regards
Hi.
I am trying to find any information on my father.
He is Donald L Jeffrey born Fulham 1951. His father was Les.
Don married Anita Godier in 70s and had a son in 1975. (Paul David Jeffrey, 26/4/75, Born Clacton/Reg june Colchester)
This is all I know so any small amount of info will mean a lot.
Kind regards.
Paul.
Hello Paul
1951 MARRIAGE
Name: Leslie F Jeffrey
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Fulham
Spouse: Eileen V Grainger
1961 MARRIAGE
Did Leslie remarry
Name: Leslie F Jeffrey
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Battersea
Spouse: Pamela J Ruff
1983 MARRIAGE
Did Donald remarry
Name: Donald L Jeffrey
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Epping Forest, Essex
Spouse: Joan P Martlew
1988 MARRIAGE
Did Leslie remarry
Name: Leslie F Jeffrey
Registration district: Northampton
Spouse: Patricia M R Szekely
ROSALINE HALL: Fulham Good Neighbours has been based in this building since 2006 but it’s history goes back at least to 1901. We are keen to find out more about the previous building’s owners and it’s history. Any advice will be appreciated.
Hello I’m trying trace The family or friends of Alfred Reginald Thomson artist. He lived in Fernshaw road sw10. In the late 70s early 80s. I have an interesting painting I’m trying to identify please see the link
http://www.alistairlexden.org.uk/news/thatcher-mystery-painting
Hello Daniel
Born in India so hard to trace parents and other siblings but not impossible
1894 BIRTH INDIA
Born Madras, Chepauk
Father: unknown
Mother: unknown
Contact Families In British India Society for help
https://www.fibis.org/
1911 CENSUS
Name: Reginald Alfred Thomson
Relation to Head: Pupil
Birth Place: India, Madras, Chepauk born 1895 age 16
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chepauk_Palace
Street address: 45 Fordwych Road, Cricklewood, Hampstead
Occupation: SCHOOL
Household Members:
John Barber Husband and teacher of the deaf
Henry Sargint Nolan Totally deaf from birth
Reginald Alfred Thomson Totally deaf from birth
1927 MARRIAGE
Name: Alfred R Thomson
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Kensington
Spouse: Marjory Horne
1928 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Alfred Reginald J Thomson and Marjory Thomson
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Street address: 414 Fulham Road
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Name: Alfred Thomson [Reginald Thomson]
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 10 Dec 1894
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 2 Fernshaw Road
Residence Place: Chelsea
Occupation: Artist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Thomson
Household Members:
Where is wife Marjory
Where are any children
Have they evacuated to countryside
1979 LAST POSSIBLE WORK
https://www.alistairlexden.org.uk/news/thatcher-mystery-painting
1979 DEATH
Who is informant on death certificate?
Name: Alfred Reginald Thomson
Birth Date: 10 Dec 1894
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Chelsea
Hello Daniel
Have done some research, this thread is helping also.
https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/93630-ARTIST-ALFRED-REGINALD-THOMSON-BORN-INDIA
I am researching the family of William Lovely and his wife Eliza who lived at Avenue House, 2 Bridge Avenue, Hammersmith from the late 1850s. William was Clerk to the Board of Works for the Fulham District and he died in 1872. His widow, Eliza, died in 1900 at Avenue House. Does anyone know when the house was demolished as I believe that a new building is on the site? Also, does anyone know who I could approach to see if a photograph of Avenue House exists?
Regards,
Geoff Giles,
Leicester, UK
Thank you!!
Hi fellow researchers, after a long search I have found out the name of my grandfather Francis Cyril Howe born in Oct 1904 and lived around Hammersmith. Is there anybody out there that has any information about him or his family.
I am awaiting a copy of his birth certificate.
K.pugh999@ntlworld.com
Regards Kevin
Hello Peter,
I am able to provide information on the Worsley family that you are seeking.
Firstly I would like to know a bit more about you and what you are trying to achieve/want.
I am available on bill_vanderlouw@yahoo.com.au which should make easier contact for us.
Very kind regards,
Bill Vanderlouw.
My Grandmother, Vera Hay-Smith, was mayoress of Hammersmith and Fulham in 1971/72. Thomas Morris was Mayor. I remember newspaper articles of them with Muhammed Ali. I don’t remember the date or occasion but if you could find anything I would very much appreciate it.
Thank you.
I think you should contact the Mayors secretary at the Town Hall. as I recall a cuttings book is compiled for each mayor in office. Again the archives/local history may have information and the local newspapers at that time
Hello Bill,
I am trying to discover Victor Samuel Worsley’s wife’s name/maiden name. Also his full fathers name. I think it is William, but you will know more as that is your mother’s father. Did Victor have other brothers and sisters? My research is about motorcycles that Victor once raced in the 1950’s and their connection to motorcycles that we still have that were also raced by my late father. Any help appreciated
Hi
I am looking to find out some recent history of Coda Studios including the building’s past uses and where the name Coda came from.
I’d appreciate any information
Many thanks
Sarah
The council website planning applications have the following as the first online details of the Coda centre.
1987/00001/OUT | Outline application: The redevelopment of the land by the erection of residential units to contain 135 habitable rooms together with appropriate kitchens, bathrooms and ancillary facilities and the erection of business units not exceeding 75,000 square feet in floor are and their use within Class B1 of the Town and Country Planning (Use Classes) Order 1987 together with associated car parking. Drg. Nos: MON2 1.22B (revised 20 March 1987), MON 1.21B, supporting drawing MON2 1.124 (for illustrative purposes only), MON2 S52 and letters dated 27 February, 15 June and 27 November 1987. | The Coda Centre Munster Road London SW6 6AW .
Unfortunately early PA do not contain as much historical detail as later ones.
The Planning application reports hard copy at the library could help, as could looking through the Fulham Chronicle. Kellys London will give you the name of the firms on the site.
However if memory serves me correctly and others may like to comment on this, it was actually the site of a drinks manufacturer distribution outlet.
I believe it was Corona soft drinks (later taken over by Britvic). I recall 4 bottles of the beverage being delivered to my house in Fulham regularly on a monthly basis and the empties collected c. 1959/60s. This was their marketing policy
I would like to think that the name for the centre comes from
COrona Drinks Association, but have no concrete evidence as such.
Dear Sarah, nice building. We featured it in my new book on Fulham (Wild about Fulham) and my historian tells me that 100 years ago it was a mineral water company called Batey and Co. They have a nice lady that runs the ‘gate house’ or reception area, called Eddie I seem to remember, so she ought to be able to fill you in with anything else you might need – all the best AW
I am a Groves in Australia and my grandfather George Groves came to Australia from 4 Beavor Lane Hammersmith about 1911. Most of our Groves family seem to have been in the building industry in the Hammersmith area but the earliest Groves I can find is William Groves born about 1742 and describes as “barge builder of Hammersmith” in some birth records for his children. I would love to hear from anyone who is researching the Groves family from this area.
Hi,
I’m looking for some information on the history of Hope Pier. I believe it has been in the See family for many years. However, it does not appear on any plans.
I am also curious to find out the location of Hammersmith Pier. Was this by the bridge?
Thanks,
Anna
Archives will have a map of the Thames showing all the piers draw docks wharves etc. The features around Hammersmith Bridge include the Hope Wharf. The may have information of the See family as well.
Hammersmith Area.
Albert Wharf[2]
Atlanta Wharf[2]
Beckett’s Wharf[2]
Hope Wharf[2]
(Hammersmith Bridge)
Queen’s Wharf[2]
Gwynne’s Wharf[2]
Chancellor’s Wharf[2]
The Waterworks were situated between Beavor Lane and Hope lane.
there IS A PIER at Furnival gardens, and a landing stage near to the Bridge. Suggest viewing a google may from the air
I am looking for information about the man who built Chiddingstone Street SW 6 3TG. Keen to see any records about his design principles and any indication about when they were sold and to whom
Check out archives, but I copy here again a reply I wrote 5 years ago about the Lion house of which Chiddingstone street is one of the examples. Archives may have adverts in local papers at the time. In the late forties and fifties Quarrendon in particular have a number of police (at least five that I can recall) living in the houses which were normally divided in to 2 households although with none of the “self containment ” of these days.
Our publication Peterborough house and its grounds is of course about the estate that became the building plot for the estate. (See link above). The estate office was the little building at the start of Perrymead Street .
The sandstone lions on the houses of the Peterborough estate are said to be the trade mark of Jimmy Nicholls, the builder of the houses on land of the former Peterborough House.
The first houses (and smaller than subsequent ones) were advertised about June 1899 for the sum of £300. 110 years later some are fetching with additions etc over £3million. It is said that the success of these early sales lead to the larger units(cf Coniger)
There are some 930 in all in this part of Fulham, although other examples can be found further along the New Kings road near Fulham (All Saints) Church and also near Barnes Pond in Richmond.
It is said that the number of lions ordered were an over order. Each house normally has one complete lion on a brick pillar to near the small upstairs front window and shares half a lion where it meets the neighbouring property on the party walls.
The complete lion is built on a brick pillar, but with a smaller base. After some 90 or so years the ingress of rain water down the pillar caused many a front room ceiling to loose the plaster work between the large and small windows in the corner. Personally I feel these brick pillars were built specially to use up the excess lions. With 930 houses 1000 would have really been enough for them to share half a lion each on the party walls, with a finishing lion at the end of the terrace. I believe a lot of the ground rents payable were to the actress “Ellen Terry” or her estate and heirs, and in about 1965 a lot of the leaseholds were offered at about £425 ,the offer was time limited and even increased in price before the end of the period, by another £100 as I recall
Hello,
I am trying to do some research into 26 – 38 Rylston Road as to its previous uses. It is now a derelict building. I wondered if you hold any documents?
Do you know what year it was built etc? there doesn’t appear to be much information online.
Any information you can provide would be very helpful.
Thank you
These premises were just pre-war a French Laundry. It still has the chimney stack. In the 1980s it was a processing unit I believe for Kodak. They may be able to let you have more details. Archives should also be checked out for information. check the PO London Kellys directories for other uses . The last local Kelly’s directory was 1939.
My Great Great Grandmother Charlotte Duncan lived at Woolmer Cottage, The Grove, Hammersmith, Kensington, London with my Great Grandfather Clarence Charles Turnbull Pereira around 1870. I would love to know more about the property.
Hi . I am trying to fine old photos of the sunlight laundry in gayford road shepherds bush late 60s thankyoy .
Good afternoon in the early to middle seventies I was staying in Loris rd and drank in the Brook Green pub. Is it still there anything like it was then.
Hi we have just bought a house on Ongar road. Number 43, and would love to know more about the history of the street.
Could you help?
Just to start you off the word Ongar means grassland or sometimes clearing derived from the German word Anger.
Obviously being West London it is not the road to the Ongar in Essex where I originally moved to after leaving Shepherds Bush so it might be an ancient road to a cleared area.
Good luck in your search.
Hello. I’m researching a book and I used to live on Kingwood Road.
Please could anyone tell me what the big mansion block on Kingwood Road SW6 6SP was built for? It was built in around 1900 – was it for general use or was it anything to do with the workhouse? Do you have any idea if the build was for a certain group of people to live there?
Many thanks, Laura Wilshaw
Where abouts of Staff nurse Janet mews working in St Stephens hospital Fulham around 1958 / 1959 then may have been promoted to sister
Dear whoever it may concern. I recently moved into the area and would like to know the history of my house, in particular so that we can make renovations inline with the correct period.
The house is 16 Saint Stephens avenue, w12 8jh
If anybody could tell me how old the house is, and how i find out a little about it’s history that’d be great.
thanks very much in advance
Hi Sarah, I would suggest a visit to the LBHF Archive, 1st floor Hammersmith Library on a Monday or Tuesday when the archivist and volunteers are present. You will be able to look at large scale Ordnance Survey Maps both before and after the street was built. You will also be able to look up the street in LCC Street Survey which details when the name was authorised and any changes. If you ask to see the drainage plans for the street you may find details of any major changes, with plans if you are lucky. The archive also has a collection of photos filed by street so that could be useful. You may also wish to explore the electoral registers and census for that address over the years to discover who lived there. Bombsight.org shows that no bombs fell on the avenue but lucky to avoid some a couple of streets away in both directions. I hope this is enough to get you started.
Sirs
Would any of your members be aware of, or perhaps know of a Ted and Mary Barton two young evacuees from Fulham who came to West Bromwich during WW2 staying with a lady called Florence, my gran
The address I have if I can read it correctly is 42 Adeney Road Fulham, circa 1943
kind regards
Ray
I came down to London in 1964 as a young teenager to work. Lived in Seagrave Rd with some other lads. Came back to have a trip down memory lane. The Atlas was a favorite and lovely free roast spuds on the bar every Sunday; good to see it going strong. The flats now at Brompton Park Crescent I understand were built in the 80s. trying to remember what had been on the site in 60s. Thought it was nurses’ home but probably completely wrong! What was there?
My late mother was born at 59 Bridge Avenue Hammersmith in 1922, so I visited the area a couple of days ago to try and locate the house. Am I right in thinking that the road was split into two halves by the flyover: 1-31 Bridge Avenue and 32-60ish now called ‘Bridge View’?. I found 59 Bridge View, but would appreciate guidance from locals on whether this is the original 59 Bridge Ave. With grateful thanks in appreciation of any help, Philip.
Hello, I am interested in creating a link between the society and the recently opened Fulham Boys School at Gibbs Green. Not only in order to forge greater community links but also to explore the opportunity of a dig at the new school site http://www.fulhamboysschool.org/school/permanent-site/ where deep foundations are begin dug. This might be an interesting opportunity for the society and for the boys of the school. Please feel free to contact me directly or via this post. I shall be taking up the position of assistant headteacher in September but am looking to make plans for the year ahead. Even if the site is of no historical interest I would like to work with other interested parties to develop enthusiasm for local history, and history in general, at the school. Many thanks. Ben Maddison
I have traced a great uncle buried in North Sheen cemetery. Judging from the Find a Grave site, someone is tending this grave. Is there any way to trace the family? The family name is Madden. They lived in Fulham, traced back to 1881 census, and on into the 1911.
Hello Susan
Who is the person and when did they die/buried
Contact the cemetery office about the grave ownership
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/births-deaths-and-marriages/deaths/cemeteries-and-burials
If you have found an old burial record the grave may have since been reused
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/births-marriages-and-deaths/cemeteries-and-burials/purchase-and-reserve
Referring to my enquiry about a grave in North Sheen Cemetery. I did write to the council, for the attention of North Sheen Manager, with a letter detailing why I believed Henry Patrick Madden to be my grandmother’s half brother, same mother. No reply. Now I have written to the email address you gave and hope they can help. Henry died December 1973 and his age would be correct for the person I am seeking. Last time I was in England I phoned the only Madden in the BT phone book but no luck.
On another topic. My grandmother, Sarah Madden, was in St.Josephs, Brook Green, handed over to the Board of Guardians at age 3. I have traced her through their records. The family always appearing on the same folio number which really helps as she was known by both her father’s name Spaul and mother’s Madden, baptised in St. Thomas’s Church, Fulham with her father’s name. While I have discovered where most of her siblings, half siblings, were placed at age 14 onward, I am still struggling to fill in her years between the 1901 and 1911 census. I have a memory that she worked in the kitchen of either St. Paul’s or the junior school on the opposite side of Hammersmith Road, Collet?? Court. Looking at a Booth map you suggested in answer to another query, St. Joseph’s and these two schools are closer than I remember. Does Hammersmith have any records relating to the placement of pauper children.
Thank you.
Hello Susan
The cemeteries office is a statutory service, if no reply then send a complaint to council’s customer service and also ask for help from a local councillor detailing your previous attempts and no responses, particularly difficult as living abroad. Book an appointment to see the cemeteries office next time in England but send your information well in advance to make the most of the meeting.
If you are seeking living relatives then the Salvation Army Family Tracing service can help
https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/family-tracing
Local archives can help with pauper children, as could this site, but both will also need birth date, what year was your grandmother handed to the board of guardians age 3, her parents full names.
Dear Lorraine, this is the information we have on my grandmother Sarah Spaul or legally Sarah Madden. In register of births there are two entries for the last quarter of 1890. One Sarah Spaul, the other a female Spaul. I obtained a copy of her baptism certificate by going into St. Thomas’s Church when I was in ?England. Her date of birth given on the register there is October 12 but her birthday was the 18th. Close enough for a mother who was illiterate.
Board of guardians’ record shows her date of birth 4th April 1891. She is admitted to Ackmar Road School 1st October 1894, age 3, by her father John Spaul. Her half brother Daniel was also admitted on that day. And other older half brothers Henry, (Harry) and Robert, all legally Spaul, admitted in September 1894. A full brother John Madden born 1898 was admitted 1902.
Going back to Henry Madden the family had a habit of recycling names. There is an older half brother John and a full brother John, Patrick also occurring as a middle name and that is why we think the grave in North Sheen is a younger half brother. The partial story as far as I have traced through the Board of Guardians’ records is that my great grandmother’s husband, Madden, ran off to America.
Back to Sarah Spaul/Madden. She was admitted 1900 to St. Joseph’s. Most of the girls there were born in Fulham but on the 1901 census her place of birth is unknown and she is said to be 8.
She was very tiny so a guess?
Board of Guardians records show family visits by my grandmother and other siblings while my great grandmother Mary Madden is in Fulham Workhouse. The children are said to be in the infirmary. Presumably the boys came from their orphanages, St. Mary’s or St. Vincent’s, my grandmother and a half sister from St. Joseph’s, for a few days. What an undertaking for the Guardians. My grandmother’s half sister is in service at age 14, at 14 half brothers go to the Exeter, one works as a servant near his orphanage, one to Canada as British Home Child, but I can find no record for my grandmother what or where the Guardians arranged for her.
In 1911 census she is 21 which is correct. The final piece of the puzzle would be to find where the Guardians placed her at 16. She seems to have been older than normal but her date of birth was incorrect from the beginning and perhaps that is why. After 21 she is back in Fulham/Bsrons Court and we know her story from there.
Susan
Hello Susan
You know so much already, well done. Nothing else coming up online.
I would put all the information you know for each person in a timeline.
Grandmother
Birth Details
Baptism Details
Census Details
Workhouse Details
Send to local archives to help find out the information you need about your grandmother, could also find further information about the ancestors.
Good luck
Can anyone assist me with any information as to who is now in charge of the Gunterstone
Estate. Frere Cholmley were their solicitor but are now out of business.
I am interested to know who now manages the
Gunterstone Estate. I know Frere Cholmney were their solicitors but they are no longer in business. Any information you have would be much appreciated.
For Daidra, Yes this is the newsagent, but I am married to Graham – he is not my Dad – but we did have two girls who went to Munster School, and then Lady Margaret.
I have been asked to research the birth and subsequent time in orphanages of one Violet Catherine FORD, born 10th Jan 1911 to Alice FORD of Ifield Road. Baptised at Our Lady of Dolours, Fulham Road on the 26th March 1914 (Godparent Constance Brayden). She was put into an orphanage, thought to be St Mary’s Home for Poor Orphan Girls on Brook Green Road, then in 1918 Lawn House Convalescent Home, Margate. Adopted by the Hammersmith Guardians in 1925 and transferred to Hammersmith Receiving Home.
Can you help me with any of this information, specifically the birth and family.
Regards,
Dave Radley (brother-in-law to Violet’s son)
Hi how will I be able to get hold of the Fulham chronicle from the queens coronation in 1953?
Hollie
you should find it on microfilm at the LBHF Archive on the first floor of Hammersmith Library. If you go in on a Monday or Tuesday there will be the archivist or a volunteer to help you. See details at the top of this page. If you cannot get there then an email and a small fee should secure a printed copy from the microfilm.
Can anyone help me with a family history query? I have drawn a complete blank with my grandmother Florence Elizabeth Jones whose father was a John Jones living somewhere in S Wales! She married my grandfather, Walter BLAKE, who then died in Southwark in 1927. She then lives around Ifield Road way, marries Albert FOSTER, and then lives in various places locally such as Finborough Road, Chesson Road and elsewhere. Eventually she leaves him and settles down around 1952, still under the name of Foster, in Parsons Green lane with a George Higley. They lived there until 1963 before moving out of London. I know no more about her than this so any information would be very welcome indeed. I have exhausted searches on Ancestry etc. Thanks in anticipation.
Hi Vic
Try this forum, there are others that are similar also
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/
for Daidra morris – re Doris Kent. I think this system is stupid, Why when reply is clicked doesn’t it go straight to the subject matter/person concerned? Anyway, no relation to any other Whittle other than my husband, Graham. He was a newsagent in Fulham Palace Road and we both knew Mrs O’Dea. She would come in from time to time. Afraid cannot give you much detail
Have to agree with Jennifer/Whittle re-Daidra Morris. The site is confusing with the Reply/Comment section since you can’t seem actually reply(comment) directly to the person who you want to make contact with! I did raise this point awhile back with FHHS
but I can’t find their explanation. Maybe they will explain again to all the reason for this!
Hi Mike, sorry you have trouble. We use a free’ blog’/website from WordPress.com . We have almost no control over how it looks and works but the idea is that if you click on ‘Reply’ underneath the question or comment then your reply will be posted in sequence after it. The original poster of the question can then see the replies on line. Other people can also benefit from this. If you have personal or sensitive information to impart then we can put you in touch directly by email. If you need to pose a new question or ‘thread’ then you scroll to the bottom and enter it in the box under ‘Enter your Comment Here’. I hope this helps.
saved replies go missing too or don.t save at all
have suggested a forum like the Who Do You Think You Are site
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/
Hello Jennifer. Thank you for your posting. I think you must be one of Anthony Whittle’s daughters. I’m sure you and I met, at Anthony’s funeral. Anthony used to visit my grandmother Mrs O’Dea in Vera Road, and Doris Kent was another visitor. I am trying to flesh out a picture of life in Vera Rd at that time and find out more about my grandmother. I had the vague hope that Doris might just still be alive, or that she had family to whom she might have passed on stories about my grandmother.
I have just left a comment on someone else’s site as that was the first thing to come up. Find this site most user-unfriendly!
So – I am no relation to any other Whittle than my husband Graham, who is no relation to Anthony. Graham was a newsagent and your grandmother would come in from time to time. Doris did know her I remember that, and my memory is of a pint-size lively lady, who if you got on the wrong side of her would let you know! She was a great character, and I am sure lots of people will remember her. Good luck finding more detail – sorry can’t tell you more than above. Have you tried the local Catholic churches? St Thomas? Holy Cross?
Thank you for that bit of information, Jennifer. Sounds like my grandmother, alright. Was your Father’s newsagent the one opposite the road down to Bishop’s Park? Deirdra
Hello Deirdra, you may remember me ,I am Doreen odeas daughter who was married to your uncle bill, I have old photos of the family including your grandmother,mary your mother ,kitty ,yourself and brother sean and more .You are very welcome to have them .
kind regards
Lesley Lawless nee Wilson
I was told by my aunt that her mother had worked in Fulham on the effort to evacuate children to Canada during WW2. Can anyone shed any light on this. As a single girl she had worked for the Post Office in North London.
Ask local archives for further information
HI, we were friends of Doris and she was godmother to one of our children in the 70’s. We had a newsagent in Fulham Palace Road and she would call in every day. She worked for the Halfin family, who owned the taxi firm in Parsons Green, and lived in Cloncurry Street. After the last of the Halfins died, Doris was given a flat in Putney. She lived there for a long time and we kept in touch, but she sadly died in 2011 – although she got to see her goddaughters baby.
How do you know about her?
Actually the Flyover was built 1960-1961.
I think that the Flyover was built late 1950s
What was the new of the cafe on Stevendale Road SW6 IN 1968?
Do you mean Stephendale Road and is it the place on the corner of Broughton road?
Sorry, yes on Stephendale road, not sure which end, but was run by David and Maureen Munday. She was a Northern Irish lady.
The place on the corner of Broughton R0oad and Stephendale road was an off-licence that I believe was called “the Glen”. It was owned by an “older” couple (but then everybody I suppose looked “old” when you were a teenager in 1950s).
216 Stephendale Rd, 1964- 1966.. A cafe, with living quartets above.. No one can seem to remember the name of it.
George Street can be found on the Charles Booth Online Archive booth.lse.ac.uk It was down near the river.
Hi, I am joining Fulham Boys School in September and will have responsibility for getting the boys engaged in local activities and enterprise. The school’s new site is currently being excavated (http://www.fulhamboysschool.org/school/permanent-site/) and I wondered whether there is some scope to get the boys and your society together to see if there is anything interesting to be found at the site. Hope you are interested! Ben Maddison
I am researching my great grandfather who was a greengrocer and living in George Street, Hammersmith at the time of the 1911 census but can find no record of this street – can anyone please help
There was a George Street in Hammersmith W6 that became Marryat Street in 1911, and also a George Street in Hammersmith W6 that became St Peter’s Villas in 1912. Perhaps it’s one of those… (Source: Bruce’s Lists)
George St. was later renamed MARRYATT St. This street was eventually destroyed with the building of the Hammersmith Flyover in the 1940’s.
hi there
i have discovered (a) huge SAVORY famliy/families i hammersmith in the 17th and 18th centuries , they were predominantly thames fishermen.they were found in the st pauls church registers.
can anyone suggest any further sources to uncover more information.
many thanks.
chris savory.
Hello Chris
ANCESTRY
Just type Savory and Hammersmith and there are plenty to research must be descendants who stayed in the area
FISHERMEN TO OTHER JOBS
Fish Die In Thames
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1287440.stm
No work for fishermen
https://www.riverthames.co.uk/thameshistory/
Savory ancestors must have taken on other jobs with fish dying due to the Thames being so polluted
PSYCHROLOUSIA, OR, THE HISTORY OF COLD-BATHING, BOTH ANCIENT AND MODERN
Page 262 & 263 Of Cold Baths
Title Page/Printed in St Paul’s Church-Yard
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=g0igaCVNvv8C&pg=PA262&lpg=PA262&dq=savory+fisherman+hammersmith&source=bl&ots=SuGeAeOvWl&sig=ACfU3U1gSNisWZ0ERLjqdjdMuVONlPh68Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiM79rZw63jAhXViVwKHREfClwQ6AEwDXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=savory%20fisherman%20hammersmith&f=false
I remember an old Fisherman that formerly liv’d at Hammersmith, who told me, that little Sleep, and cool Diet, and thin Cloaths, were the only Means to live healthy and long, and that Water-Air made him eat heartily, and that he was a great Lover of Salt-fish and parfnips, and when he did eat any of his own fresh Fish, he eat them always new, and always boil’d, never fried, as being easiest of Digestion, and eat them the Dutch Way, brought to Table in the Liquor they were boil’d in and that at any Time when he was uneasy, and could not sleep on Shore, he went into his Peter Boat, and the Coolness of the Air, and the rocking of the Boat on the Water, made him sleep soundly. He also often wash’d in cold Water, and his Hands and Arms always dabling in cold Water, drawing his Nets both Winter and Summer: He wore but a thin woollen Waistcoat next his Shirt, and was a lusty tall Man, could both hear and see well, did neither stoop nor tremble, and died of an acute Disease at a Hundred and three years of Age. I am told he died of a pleurisy, his Name was Good-man Savory, who for his Strength, lived forty or fifty Years more and I think ’tis since he died about eight or nine Years.
Please can you tell me if you have any information regarding a confectionery shop at 692 Fulham Road between 1957 and 1959?
Many thanks and kind regards.
Lesley Scott
Is there any staff or residents who use to be at ryecroft childrens in teddington middlesex as im trying to trace people.
Im trying to find anybody who knew about a death that happened in 60 70s. It happened at 24 benbow road hammersmith. If anyone remembers can you contact me on my email address robertcurtis1962@gmail.com.
Hello Pamela
Have posted this recently, work keeps disappearing, seen other posts not happy with software, but very happy with society
1912 MARRIAGE
Matilda Ellen Worby marries Arthur A Curtis in Tynemouth, Northumerland
Have many children Curtis/Worby
1920 BIRTH
Hilda Bessie Fodder born Jan-Feb-Mar Shoreditch, mother’s maiden name Porter
1932 BIRTH
Percy Mark Curtis born in Tynemouth, Northumberland, mother’s maiden name Worby
1939 BIRTH
Patricia Dawn Mills born Hampstead, mother’s maiden name Mills, so possibly illegitimate
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Percy Mark Curtis living with mother Matilda Ellen Curtis in Fulham and younger children
Mother Matilda born 1894, also known as Matilda Nunn, Matilda Stanley
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Arthur Curtis, born 1891, living in Yorkshire
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Hilda Bessie Fodder
Please help
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
National register taken in September, Patricia Dawn Mills born in October
Where is Patricia’s mother, unable to find only know last name
1952 MARRIAGE
Percy Mark Curtis marries Hilda Bessie Fodder in Fulham
1954 DEATH
Arthur A Curtis born 1891, dies Northumberland
1959 DEATH
Hilda Bessie Curtis dies in Wandsworth
How did she die?
1960 MARRIAGE
Percy Mark Curtis marries Patricia Dawn Mills in Hammersmith
1966 MARRIAGE
Matilda Ellen Stanley (changed name or married) marries Henry Nunn in Fulham
1968 DEATH
Patricia Dawn Curtis killed by husband Percy Mark Curtis at their home in Benbow Road, Fulham
1968 Kensington Post – Friday 23 August
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0002501/19680823/020/0003Pr
Percy Mark Curtis, 36, unemployed killed his wife Patricia Dawn Curtis at their home in Benbow Road, Fulham
1969 DEATH
Matilda Ellen Nunn dies January, Fulham
1969 DEATH
Percy Mark Curtis dies in April, Paddington
How did he die?
Hi Pamela, yes I remember Stephanie, also John & Paula. There was also s family of sisters living there – Carol, Susan & Diane?
Did you go on a caravan holiday to Great Yarmouth?
I cant remember that holiday but i remember going to france. I remember john and paula. Paula was a lovely lady . Do you remember a lady called sally. I remember Diane and family .
Hi can you send me photo of you when you were there. Do you remember me or not. You can send it to my email address.
Do you remember me i was the one always in trouble.
Hi i got photos of some of the staff . I cant remember the caravan holiday but we did go to france.
I was also always in trouble! Can you remember the names of the other children? I would love to see some photos, do you have any of the house as well?
Hi
I am new to this website i am trying to find information on my grandad his name was Joe Green he lived in Hammersmith and had a shellfish stall. I cannot find a birth record anywhere for him, I think he was born in Gayford Road. Please can anyone help
My family lived in Gayford Road from just before the start of WW1 to just before the start of WW2. If you can give me a little more information such as his wife’s name and names of children I might be able to help you.
Hi Peter sorry for the late reply thank you for getting back to me all I know is that Joe had a sisters called elizabeth,sarah,harriett and daisy he also had brothers too.
Hi Gill
I’ve just checked ancestry.co.uk family trees and this looks like your family:
‘When Joseph Green was born in August 1899 in Hammersmith Shepherds Bush, London, his father, John, was 42 and his mother, Elizabeth, was 40. He married his first wife on October 8, 1936. In December 1936 he married his second wife. He died on January 31, 1977, at the age of 77’
There are quite a few people with Joe in their family tree so I would suggest taking out a subscription and then you could contact them and exchange information
I’ve only just noticed your message (29/02/16) and yes Brian was the person I knew. I was living at number 17, opposite him, and as you say he was at number 18. We did start out playing guitars together and later with others we began to play under Hammersmith bridge on many a cold night! We also joined the Fellowship Youth Club in Hammersmith Rd. pposite the old Kings Theatre. I lost contact with him soon after I got married when I was only 19yrs.old (far too young!) and I never new what happened to him. I never realised he did National Service, As fore him being called Harry, that’s something else I did,nt know!
I have tried over the years to contact him but had no success. I seem to remember there was another family downstairs called the Coulings and I did make contact with a person called Keith who I remembered but nothing was ever really followed up. He obviously new Brian but as I say, nothing more was forthcoming!
Anyway Peter, I hope this info. may be of use to you and I wish you luck with your search. If you do make contact with him, remember me to him.
Hi Mike , thanks for you reply ,it was nice to know I had the right Brian , .he was my best mate in the army ,the Name Harry was a nick name , we all had them mine was Pedro and everyone still uses it my wife Jane always calls me Pedro. In Germany I was the way we were young fun loving etc although we had to toe the line ,so many happy time Harry and I had , we hitch hiked to Paris when we had a leave . Great memories . When we were demoted in 60 we stil contacted each other and had a holiday , camping it Scotland , .he had a sports car a triumph spitfire . ,I believe he was in volved with a girl who had. A young child .then I lost contact I wish I could meet up again I wonder if Hedges the butchers have record of him ? Any How let me know if you get any more info I would be very greatfull , we not getting any younger ,you know . Best wishes Peter Bradley .
Hi Joan – apologies for the delay in reply. Thank you for replying: your Alfred is not the one I am seeking. Father in law had the surname Waites and, as far as I can see, he had two boys only.
Many thanks again though for your reply
Does the Borough of Fulham and Hammersmith have an historical emblem or a heraldic crest?
Hi
Do look at this link http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Hammersmith_and_Fulham
Also a general search on Wikipedia will give you the original separate borough histories and emblems.
Hope this helps.
Hi Joy,
I have been researching this family for some time and have heard the same family legend. Is it possible for you to contact me directly?
Best regards,
Beth
The ladies have been put in touch by email.
Hi Pamela, when did you live there?
I lived there for about 5 years in 1978 . I remember peter martin,. Was you there when a lady called Stephanie worked there
I worked part time in 1973 at the Wheatsheaf pub on the Fulham Rd near Parsons Green. Beau or Bo was the managers name. Does anyone remember it back then or any of the bands that played in it. I am trying to find out what became of a friend of mine called Johnny who was lead singer in one but cannot for the life of me remember the band name and we lost touch. At that time also a dog always came in with its owner and when Albatross by Fleetwood Mac was played on the jukebox the dog stood and howled along with it. So we listened to Albatross so many times during an evening!! Lovely memories of the place and I loved working there.
Hello. I used to do discos in the downstairs bar at The Wheatsheaf from about 1972-3 until the late 70s. When I started them the manager was Jim Winter and when he retired the managers changed reasonably frequently except for Harry, a Scotsman whose surname I forget, and his wife Margaret, who were there for some years. My memory’s not so good these days but I’ve a feeling the bands started playing in the mid-70s (including Faith Brothers from Fulham Court across the road. Billy Franks is still playing solo) when a manager, whose name may have been Beau (Bo), came in and decided he didn’t want discos anymore. I’d been there a number of years so was disappointed at the sudden change and the bullying way it was brought about. The disco brought in a lovely crowd and was a good earner for the pub (and me, of course!). Beau (Bo) wasn’t there very long, as I recall he may have had an accident with a pressurised beer barrel, and after Jim Winter I recall a couple (Rusty and her husband ?) who went on to manage The Cock in North End Road. I also enjoyed my time at the pub and although I carried on doing discos elsewhere I missed the downstairs bar and its friendly atmosphere for years afterwards. My friend, Franny Clilverd, ran the downstairs bar but sadly, died in Spain some years ago.
Sorry I can’t be more helpful; but it’s all a bit vague now. I hope you find out more because I know how infuriating it can be when you only remember half of it!
Hi Mark thank you for replying. There wasn’t any disco downstairs when I worked there. It was definitely 1973 and when I started there Beau/Bo was the manager who employed me. He did have an accident with the beer keg just before I left. I moved from Fulham to Holland Rd nearer to my full time Job in Kensington. I worked at the London Tara Hotel as it was known back then.i don’t remember the Faith brothers..I think that band and disco etc. all happened after 1973. Drag nights as well as bands were entertainment when I was there. We always got the Vanguard lorry drivers in on Thursdays and crew from the fire station. Great craic and great memories. Would love to track down band names but so many years have passed..This was a long shot. Good to hear you did well also at the Wheatsheaf. Thanks again for replying.
I am researching a patient that was housed at 48 Glenthorne Road Hamersmith W from approximately 1906 to her death in 1970. I was wondering if you have any records of patients in that facility during that time. I believe she would be a great-aunt to me. I would also like more information on what kind of a facility it was. I am residing in Canada so am not familiar with the area.
Hello Sandra
ALEXANDER HOUSE
48 GLENTHORNE ROAD
HOME FOR FEEBLE MINDED GIRLS
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19061019/078/0005
Miss Ellen Collyer
Matron
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/MD.shtml
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/CS5.shtml
MENTALLY DEFICIENT CHILDREN:
THEIR TREATMENT AND TRAINING
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The results obtained by more recent homes, if less successful financially, are distinctly encouraging. Thus the National Association Report of Alexander House (a working home for 19 girls over fourteen at Hammersmith) after eight years’ working, stated “there are now 8 girls in service, who are regularly visited. Of these, 4 are going on well; the others leave their situations frequently, their mental deficiencies making them unable to work steadily for any length of time.” Further experience has, however, proved the need for permanent care in the majority of cases
FEEBLEMINDEDNESS OF CHILDREN OF SCHOOL AGE
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Hammersmith
Alexander House
48 Glenthorne Road
Training and Permanent Care and After-Care For Girls
19 Girls from 14 to 20 years 10/-
1911 CENSUS
Name: Ellen Collyer
Age: 60 born 1851
Birth Place: Woking, Surrey
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Street address: 48 Glenthorne Road
Marital status: Single
Occupation: SUPERINTENDANT OF HOME
Registration district: Fulham
Household Members:
Inmates Feeble Minded Girls Young Women
You will need to enter image and find your relative or what is her name
Good afternoon
My Grandmother’s uncle and cousin ( John and Winifred Wilson) lived in South Africa but when they visited the UK they put their address for visiting as 6 Irene Rd (1948 visit and in the 1950’s). No one in the family can think of any connection with that address as my grandmother lived in Somerset. Does anyone have access to the electoral rolls who could tell me who was living at No 6 at that time?
Kind regards
Emma Tucker
Hello Emma
1911 CENSUS
Name: Alfred James Geen
Age: 16 born 1895
Relation to Head: Son
Civil Parish: Fulham
Street address: 6 Irene Road
Marital status: Single
Occupation: COMMERCIAL CLERK
Registration district: Fulham
Household Members:
James Geen 48
Mary Wallace Geen 57
William Alexander Geen 22
Alfred James Geen 16
Helen Mary Geen 13
Arthur Slade Fermor 20
Edmund Drockman 24
1924 MARRIAGE
Name: Alfred James Geen
Marriage Place: Batter Street-Presbyterian, Plymouth, Devon Spouse: Ina Weir
1948 1949 1950 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTERS
6 Irene Road
Alfred, Ina and and Malcom Geen
Mary Rhodes
Hi,
Alfred Geen was my grandfather (cousin of Winnie Wilson), Malcolm my father. Winnie came to London until mid 1970s and I remember her well. She used to visit her relatives in Bridgwater as well. I have her WW2 medal for driving an ambulance!
Kind Regards, Andrew Geen
A milk bar stood on the original site. On the opposite corner was a skin hospital. On the other side of the Uxbridge Road is St Stephens church. In WW2 a flying bomb took off the church spire and demolished the hospital and milk bar with a considerable loss of life.
If you are still doing your research I might be able to help as I worked at Earls Court in stand design in the late 1960s.
The original Banisters cottages stood where Willow Vale in Shepherds Bush now stands. There are old photos of these cottages in the local archives. The last named Bannisters Cottages were war time prefabs that still stood in the 1960s.
Who told you to pay 84.36
Sent from my iPad Regards Brian
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Hi Helen
So did I… she was my grandmother!
Did we ever find out what information the original poster wanted to know…?
No, nothing more was heard from the original poster.
I am inquiring about a children’s home in Farnham about 1943-1945. I was evacuated there during the war with other children in order to be outside of London. I remember a Nurse Wells, but have no other recollections.
Is there a Hammersmith or Fulham connection? Even if there were it might be very difficult to find any individual details. Have you tried the local Archive for the Farnham area. Look at their website for details http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/heritage-culture-and-recreation/archives-and-history/surrey-history-centre .
Good Luck
This web site is useful for some basic information about childrens homes and possible archive locations
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/
Most childen’s homes, “bomb babies’ nurseries,at that time were run by the waifs and strays society, now THE CHILDRENS SOCIETY. They still have basic records of all children evacuated through them. Phone them or write to them. You might be lucky. I was. I received 2 pages of copies which were so revealing. Good luck in your search
Hello,
I am trying to identify a film location that I believe to be in Hammersmith / Fulham from 1977. Could anyone help if I post a link to a photo (which shows a distinct building that you may recognise instantly)
Thank you.
How do we see the link?
Helen
Hi Helen,
Here are the links to the pictures. Thank you for your interest.
My parents lived in the Hammersmith/Shepherds Bush area at the beginning of the 1930s and my mother lived in Burfield street, which at one time could be glimpsed through one of the railway arches as the train approached Hammersmith Station. The present Multi-storey car park is now there. I recently bought an old A-Z from the National Archives but it is not listed. Do you know of any maps which do show Burfield Street? Are there any in the local library ?
I can see Burfield Street on a modern copy of an old Ordnance Survey Map of 1864. It runs off Glenthorne Road. This edition was published by Alan Godfrey of Gateshead in 1983 and I don’t know if it’s still in print. See Old Ordnance Survey Maps London sheet 73, Holland Park and Shepherds Bush.
Helen
I’ve found a map from 1948/9 that belonged to my father, Burrow’s Pointer Guide Map of Hammersmith, which shows Burfield Street. The new plans for the Broadway and the Great West Road are marked with dotted lines.
This is a most interesting document, giving detailed information of the borough and its amenities at the time. Swimming at Lime Grove baths cost 6d for an adult. There were also slipper baths (what were they?) and public washhouses. Licensing hours Monday to Saturday were 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. and 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. In addition to much official information there are advertisements, Palmers Stores, Clement Leroy florists, George Wimpey and Co amongst others.
Burfield Street is under what is now the NCP car park. My father lived in the road during the late ’20s to the start of WW2 at No. 11. His mother lived there until the late ’60s.
I so agree. I’ve gone up the wrong track a few times and those certificates do hold answers, worth the money for the time they save.
Also if anyone out there does know anything about 566 Fulham Road in the late 20s/1930s do let me know. I’m trying to put together a sequence of events for my Great Grandfather, George Wilkinson, who was a missionary doctor in China until 1920 and then returned to London. I know he worked as a doctor at this address, but no idea if this was a regular hospital, surgery or a mission house of some kind.
Any help gratefully received.
Ruth Horne
Hello
We are purchasing 42 Masbro Road and know that it was a pub called the Lord Nelson that was open until the mid 1990s.
Would you have, or know where we could find, photos and / or a floor plan of the building when it was a pub?
Many thanks
David & Emilie
Previous work was done on the pub in 1996, however reference to the council planning web site, although listing a number of changes/applications under building control, does not seem to have any diagrams of work to be carried out. It is possible however that the Council does have something on file so check with the Town Hall if this is the case. Studying the planning applications of the documents that are on the website may mean that you can still contact a previous party for information
Dear FHHS……I looking to trace the final resting place of ADA FANNY HOOKER who was killed in April 1942 during an air raid on York. The 1939 census shows her living at No:7 Ravenscourt Road, Hammersmith. I believe she was visiting relatives in York.
I am assuming she was brought home for burial. Interestingly, today, her home address shows a change in architecture to the rest of the street.
Any assistance will be much appreciated.
My advice with family research ‘Don’t make assumptions’ you need the Death certificate
Brian
I have seen the York death details on ancestry . It might be worth contacting the York history society ,bound to one and someone will know about bombings and victims and where they may have been buried. It may not have been easy to arrange a transfer during the war and may have been expensive.
Brian
Thanks Brian…..I didn’t say that I live in York and I suppose “I am the History Society”…!!
I’ve traced all but one of the victims, Ada Hooker is the final one. She definitely isn’t buried in or near York. All of the “out of town” victims appear to have been buried in their home area.
I wonder how many likely cemeteries there are in her area?
Malcolm , After o long search I found the burial site of my great grandfather in Margravine cemetery and great grandmother in the kew/motlake.sheen the large one on the corner by main traffic lights .after being told they weren’t buried in the borough I got the cemetery manager to open the bunker at the site and he found the huge books which had the details in .
It was quite an eye opener.
Good luck they are not very efficient on this subject matter
Brian
Thank you.
Brian, how did you get hold of the cemetery manager to do that? I suspect one of my relatives killed in the war in Fulham might be in that cemetery by Chalkers Corner (think it’s referred to as Fulham New?), I read the records are held on site but they took ages to respond at first then didn’t respond to my second request at all.. I could walk there if I knew someone was willing to show me the records though!
Malcolm – I found some details on the civilians killed in the war – it had the cemetery area listed for my relative (just said Fulham though..).
Karen
Ring me tomorrow if you like I will try explain after 10am
07881924430
Brian
Hello Karen
Email your cemeteries office with full details of person locating, death registration if known. If no response, re-send email and copy to customer services/complaints and then ring cemeteries office, it is a statutory service. Some cemeteries offices may charge a fee for a look-up.
Hello Karen
Email your cemeteries office with full details of person locating, death registration if known. If no response, re-send email and copy to customer services/complaints. Ring cemeteries office regarding your emails, it is a statutory service. Last resort visit council reception and explain about getting no response to your enquiries.
Some cemeteries offices may charge a fee for a look-up.
Hi
Yes I remember vic yogi
Vic worked in the paint shop yogis real name was Brian same as me and when I started there they tried to call me Boo boo . I worked upstairs with Peter the foreman yes you are right about his name .I was only 15 and the woman up there Loved to tease the young boy .
Yogi was a great big bloke
There was a few other young lads there .It was poor pay but it was fun at times .
Sirs
Would any of your members be aware of or perhaps know a Ted and Mary Barton two young evacuees from Fulham to West Bromwich during WW2 staying with a lady called Florence, my gran
kind regards
Ray
Please do you have any information and photos of the prefabs
in Comeragh Vereker and Castletown Roads
I lived in the one in Comeragh Road from 1947 to about 1965
I wonder if anyone can help me? Near Townmead Road SW6 there is a small close called Gurney Road. Does anyone know the origin of this street name? It leads off William Morris Way and it seems as if this and Gurney Road are the only streets named after individuals. William Morris is obvious, though I don’t know of his association with the are, but who was the Gurney? I know of a few prominent people with that surname, but have no idea which one might have inspired this small close in Fulham.
I have written a great deal about Sybella Gurney (details on my website) and wonder if she was the source of the name – though she had no links with Fulham.
It might Ivor Gurney musician who lived in Fulham about 100 years ago
Thanks – you could be right, as I am suspecting that the names were chosen because of general Borough connections rather than connections with the specific local area. Morris lived in Hammersmith, so that could be the link for him. The architecture of William Morris Way is not exactly the Arts and Crafts style that Morris is associated with!
A William Gurney lived at 30, Broughton Road at the beginning of WW2..see Kelly’s.
Thomas Gurney , most likely an apothecary, attended the sick many times at the Plague House in Hurlingham Fields in 1665, and although in Hammersmith there was a Sir Richard Gurney d.1645 who was Lord Mayor of London and who purchased Pallingswick,but died in the Tower for supporting Charles 1
Hello,
I am trying to find the street that my great grandparents lived in around 1910 to 1913.
My great grandmother Bessie Heather passed away in 1912 and my great grandfather sadly passed away 3 months later in 1913.
They were listed as living in College Park Terrace at the time.
Any information you could offer would be extremely appreciated.
Kindest regards,
Caroline Sarbutt-Heather
This link might help a little, Caroline. –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Park,_London
Many thanks Mark.
Would anyone know where I could obtain a photo of St. Joseph’s schools orphanage, 50 Brook Green, W. 14. 1900 to 1907. Thank you.
Hello,
My name is Ruth and I am trying to find out about 566 Fulham Road. My great grandfather was a doctor and was registered at this address in the late 20s – mid1930s. I am doing some family research and am trying to find out what he was doing. He did a lot of missionary work, so there may be a connection to Church? If anyone has any ideas I’d be very grateful.
Best wishes
Ruth Horne
The site of Harold Laski house at corner of Munster Road and Fulham Road was at 861-865,(now Ray Munn)and had once been Randall’s of Fulham, South West London’s largest store for furniture and fittings. Next door were Faith Bros, hosiers, who also had a premises at the Lillie road junction of North End Road, they were agents for a number of school uniforms in the area.
Laski house was the Labour party office for Fulham, with meeting rooms , originally the offices these were located at the front of the building, but were moved further back when break-ins kept on occurring. The was a small hall downstairs, and a larger hall upstairs, where many wedding receptions and other events were held. The kitchen was however in the basement. Christmas fairs were held there also and there was a permanent mural of London scenes, besides temporary ones done for Christmas.. The top floor had 3 flats which were let to party members. The Labour savings club was run from there, but one day quite quickly it was decided to sell off the site and the Party was gone. Archives should have some pictures, and Kellys Post Office London will indicate when it went, and the Voting lists at the library will list occupants of the flats.
I am trying to locate the burial location of a casualty from York’s 1942 air raid. She was Ada Fanny Hooker (aged 55) whose 1939 census address was 7,Ravenscourt Road, Hammersmith. I believe she had family in York and was visiting when she was killed. Interestingly, her London address appears (according to Google Street View) to be a location that suffered bomb damage and has since been redeveloped. Any assistance will be gratefully received…..thank you.
Hello Malcolm
Ask York Local Archives, Ada is in their memorial book
Ask York Council Cemetery Office for burial
Ask Fulham and Hammersmith Office for burial
1939 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: Ada Fanny Hooker
Road: 7 Ravenscourt Road
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
1942 DEATH
Name: Ada F Hooker
Death Age: 55 born 1887
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: York
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
1942 CIVILIAN DEATHS
Name: Ada Fanny Hooker
Estimated birth year: 1887
Death Date: 29 Apr 1942
Death Place: York City, Yorkshire East Riding
Age at Death: 55
Father: Lewis
Spouse: George Hooker
Hi I worked at Curtis engineering from when I was 15 1962 until 1968. My name is Raymond Tappin. Some of the men I worked with Melvin Goody, Yogi, Vic, Les Kingham Foreman and Harold Skinner was the chargehand and the other manager upstairs I think was named Hugeneau.
I am looking for the following book:
Road making for the King. The story of South Street Mission, Hammersmith / by Sister Lizzie
Lizzie, Sister
Morgan & Scott, London. 1914.
There are copies of both editions of this book In Hammersmith Archives. I have copied one of them and could send you a CD with it on if you wish
Hello Stephen Lally, I have just seen your reply about the book by Sister Lizzie. I too have hunted in vain for a copy of her book about the mission, and am very keen to take up your offer of the cd copy. Please could you send me details of how to pay etc to my email address: lesleyplant@me.com . Thank you very much! Best regards, Lesley (currently skiing in Val Thorens!)
I remember Cottages on Brook Green in the late 1960’s maybe 3 or 4 cottages with huge gardens with lots of vegtables growning. They were demolished when I was still young ( I was born just of Brook Green 1958) Flats or appartment were built in place.
hello
my great grandfather john mobey lived at 15 studdridge st fulham around 1926. does anyone have any information or history of this address?
Kind Regards
Doreen Oldmeadow
1926
Alfred and Annie Mobey
15 Studdridge Street Fulham
https://www.google.com/maps/place/15+Studdridge+St,+Fulham,+London+SW6+3SL/@51.4726678,-0.1927444,3a,75y,158.95h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6iuQueQ9YbYTwVFEeY5KCQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760f7f522b6047:0xb68ad3e6ca7e1859!8m2!3d51.4725946!4d-0.1926577
Queensmill School is/was bottom of Lysia Street, off Fulham Palace Road. The bottom part of the school was for disabled pupils.
Queensmill School was in Lysia Street, off Fulham Palace Road.
Please can tell me there is any records of a bakery being located at 97 Bishops Road Fulham SW 6 . I believe it was called PAULS BAKERY….. Basically during the 40s and 50s.
Regards Paul Over
Yes the local Kellys directory for West Kensington and Fulham published in 1939-40 gives the name of the bakerery as The Modern Bakery Ltd.
The 1934 London Post Office directory gives the proprietor as Sydney W. Hood. By checking a file of the London PO directory…check with Hammersmith local archives to see if they have retained their files of these and then you will be able to trace the proprietors during and after the war years.
He used to perform at the Nashville Rooms which is now the (Famous) Three Kings. Next to West Kensington Station. Does that sound right?
We’ve got a mantle clock with a dedication plaque, which states it was presented to Chas W Evans in recognition for his 10 years of work with the Walham Green Mission Sunday School as teacher, treasurer and supervisor. The plaque is dated May 1880. We would love to get some background history to the clock and wonder if anyone has any information or photos of the school or Chas himself.
Many thanks,
Larry and Mandy Archer.
Hello Larry
This is Charles
1871 CENSUS
CHARLES WESLEY EVANS
Name: Charles W Evans
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: 1845
Relation: Head
Where born: Fulham, Middlesex
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Address: Dorset Cottages
Registration district: Kensington
Household Members:
Charles W Evans 26
Eliza Evans sister 22
Stephen Evans brother 16
Elizabeth Williams servant 17
1880 AWARDED CLOCK
CHARLES WESLEY EVANS
Charles awarded clock in May 1880 for ten years’ service of being teacher, treasurer and supervisor at Walham Green Mission Sunday School
The Repair Shop can help if clock needs restoration
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1881 CENSUS
CHARLES WESLEY EVANS
Name: Charles Evans
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: 1845
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Catherine Evans
Where born: Fulham, Middlesex
Civil Parish: Fulham
Street address: 37 Walham Grove
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Boot Tree Maker Employing 2 Men & 2 Boys
Household Members:
Charles Evans 36
Catherine Evans 33
Kate Evans 6
Sarah Evans 5
Charles Evans 3
Basil Evans 2
Arthur Evans 0
Sarah Saturley servant 17
Emma Mobbs domestic nurse 17
1882 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
CHARLES WESLEY EVANS
Name: Charles Wesley Evans
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward: Fulham
Street Address: 37 Walham Grove
1892 WEST LONDON OBSERVER
WALHAM GREEN MISSION SUNDAY SCHOOL
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/18920130/115/0006
British Newspaper Archives
Does anyone have any information about Rycroft children’s hostel which was run by Fulham & Hammersmith council?
The only Rycroft’s living in Fulham thhat I know off were members of my family. I would like to know more about the Rycroft childrens hostel.
The straightforward answer is that the whole area is being redeveloped, details are here: http://www.myearlscourt.com
Obviously this is controversial especially for those who live there the council website may have more information about transitional arrangements. http://www.lbhf.gov.uk
Good Morning. How can I purchase the book about Charlote A Sulivan. I am doing some family research related to Ireland .
I have emailed your request to Mrs Pierson who will be in touch.
Details are at: https://fhhs.wordpress.com/fhhs-publications/ at the bottom of the page.
I am wanting to locate a copy of the Fulham chronical dated February 1 1974 …. or if not the entire paper then an article headline the daughters of the king …. please can you advise if this is possible
Regards and thank you
Copy will be available from Hammersmith Library/archives and local history . See links above for details.
I would like any information on a Fulham & Hammersmith run children’s home called Ryecroft house, blandford road, teddington
Hi i lived at ryecroft children’s home Blandford road middlesex. Pam curtis
Hi Pam,
I lived at the home in 1978 Peter martin was the home supervisor at the time?
I lived at ryecroft children’s home
Hi i remember peter martin . What other staff do you remember.
If you want anymore information you can email me on pamela1965curtis@gmail.com. i am on Facebook if you want to send a friends request.
Trying to find out details about an Belfast lady, Lil GARDNER, who in the 1940s- 1950s became LORD MAYOR of HAMMERSMITH. thanks for your help.
bernie Lowry
There were no lady mayors as far as I can see in the 40s and 50s. However you may mean Elizabeth Finn who was Mayor in the 60s or 70s I can’t be sure. Her maiden name was Gardner or Gardiner.. I knew her personally..
P.S. I see that Elizabeth Finn nee Gardner was Mayor from 1964 – 1965.
Suggest write to the Mayors secretary Hammersmith Town Hall, but also check the local newspapers at the library or write in with request. Don’t think she would have been a lord mayor though
Believe this to be Elizabeth Finn (nee Gardner) mayor of Hammersmith 1964-1965.
That would be my grandmother.
Her father was James P Gardner, MP.
What kind of information were you after, Mrs Lowry?
Are you a relative?
Hi Bernie,
Lil Gardner (her maiden name, she was later Elizabeth Finn!) is in fact my Grandmother. Was there anything in particular you’d like to know?
Patrick
Hello Patrick,
Just pitching in here to say that your Grandmother, Mrs Finn, was our French teacher and I went on to study French later.(But landed up in Germany teaching English! However your grandmother took some of us over the Channel around early sixties and her daughter went with us 🙂 perhaps that was your mother? This is perhaps not the platform to reminisce on her teaching qualities.BUT she did come to school one day wearing her Mayoral chains of Office 🙂 Impressive. BEst WIshes Patricia -PS going down memory lane, I found this link looking for a picture of her.
I wonder if Patrick ever heard back from Bernie? What was the connection there? Mrs Finn was a friend, neighbour and there’s a connection too with Hammersmith Town Hall. She was an amazing character.
Like Patricia Reeve-De Becker I remember Mrs Finn teaching me French to O level at Swakeleys School in Ickenham. We sat the O level French exam in the summer of 1964 and she became Mayor of Hammersmith during that year. Several school friends with whom I am still in touch remember Mrs Finn, her husband and daughter accompanying us on a school trip to Paris. I have a photo from that trip of us with Mrs Finn. She had a dachshund called Rommel that she brought to school every day while he was suffering from back problems. We were all terribly scared of her but recognised her strength of character and even to this day, when we are reminiscing, she is the first person we all remember and now in our late 60s, we do so with affection.
Hi Everyone,
Sorry, I’d unsubscribed from email updates to this thread but the Webmaster kindly got in touch to let me know it was active!
Thank you Patricia, Helen and Felicity for your various inputs – how fascinating to hear the stories and insights (I had heard about her dog Rommel who apparently was also quite a character!)
No, I didn’t hear anything back from Bernie (yet!) – but I believe the WM may be about put us all in touch so we can all hopefully correspond…
P 🙂
I am sorry not to have any information for you, especial;y as you have looked after my 15 year old BMW for many years and, today, had a new bulb fitted.
Christopher Bellew
I am trying to discover the origin of the name “Barons Court”. Here are my findings, so far.
Christopher
The Wikipedia entry for Barons court does seem to have one other piece of information not in your pages
I,e,Some wonder if there is a reason why the apostrophe is not used for Barons Court station but is used at the nearby Earl’s Court.[7] A book in the Society of Genealogists, annotated in pencil by R. Burnet Morris who knew Sir William personally, provides a history of the area. Morris declared Barons Court was named “after Sir William’s Irish Estates”. As a result, unlike Earl’s Court station, Barons Court is written without an apostrophe.
You make a good point. However, I cannot find any connection between Baronscourt (sic) belonging to the Duke of Abercorn and Sir William. Perhaps there was another Barons Court estate in 19th century Ireland with a connection?
I have offered suggestions on this site before .please see response in Dec 2013 below
I am writing a biography of British figure skater, actress and dancer Belita Jepson-Turner. With her actor husband James Berwick (Kenny), she ran the Crabtree Gardens nursery in Fulham in the 70’s and 80’s. I would love to speak with anyone with memories of her! 🙂
Hi Ryan
I’m not sure if you have had loads of replies already but I live still on Crabtree Lane and remember both well and often would visit the garden centre that they ran.
Hello Geoff. I saw your post. I can’t help you but I wondered if you happen to know why the odd numbers of Bramber Road were pulled down and when? My father was born at number 41 in 1930 I discovered earlier today. Thank you. Richard Barclay