If you would like help with an historical enquiry concerning this area do leave a message using the Add a Comment button at the very bottom of this page below. We will try to respond if we have any helpful information, our members include local historians and archaeologist and of course many who have lived in the area all their lives. For purely genealogical research The National Archive or the Ancestry website are useful starting points. Armed with dates of births and deaths and addresses the local archives can then add more detail. The Society may also be able to fill in any gaps.
LBHF Archives contains a wealth of local material from newspapers, school and church records and directories to electoral rolls, rate books and drainage plans. They have recently started a blog from material in the archive.
LMA Holdings for LBHF also contain relevant records and can be searched on line. LMA Website.
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Do there exist a list of female employees who worked IAt the Ponds Factory’s Perivale in late 1961/2? Thank You
Maureen’s Barton-White
mobo7227@gmail.com
check out http://unilever-archives.com/ It’s a good search engine and you may find what you are looking for if not I suggest you write to Unilever archives at Port sunlight and enquire if any former employees records and their associated companies are available
I am trying to find the burial/cremation place for Mrs Dorothy Crook died 26th March 1947 at West London Hospital after suicide at Ravenscourt Park Station that day. I have newspaper reports but do not know where she was buried. She lived with her husband in West Sussex but is not recorded there. Some of her family (Munday) still lived in Fulham and may have arranged funeral (?). I have tried all usual online sites such as deceasedonline. Currently tracing all known cemeteries. Any help or advice would be useful. Thanks Elaine
192.com shows that there are still a number of people with the name Munday and Crook in the Yapton area As well as still in the Fulham Hammersmith area.
MIght A visit to St. Marys, the local church in Yapton prove useful.
The church may have produced a magazine that listed deaths in the parish and if they do not have it the local archives could.
Thanks. I’ll give that a try. E
Hi Elaine. Is this some of your family line. I was also looking for information about Dorothy Crook. Thanks , ken , B.C. Canada
Hi Ken- not family but I am helping an elderly friend who is related. There are some trees on Ancestry that show the Crook/Munday families. Is there a specific query? E
Hi Elaine is this for Joan?..ken
Hi Ken- yes it is. Do you have a connection? She is anxious to know where her mother was laid to rest. E
Cousins. How do we exchange email address..ken
Hi Ken- use ecord432@btinternet.com and let me know which branch you are related to. Thanks. E
My dad Edwin Roland Roberts was the landlord of a pub at 215, Hammersmith Road, Hammersmith, in September 1939. Do you know the name of this pub?
When they first arrived there at night they tried all the switches to see which lights worked. A little while later Special Branch arrived to arrest my dad for signalling to the enemy. One of the switches worked the illuminated sign outside the pub.
Best wishes, Eddie Roberts
The Three Jolly Gardeners
Thanks Peter
Hi I wonder if you have any information/photos of a model baby farm that was situated in St John’s House North End Road in 1871 or thereabouts. The building was, apparently, situated almost opposite Beaufort House ( not the school!). It was run by a woman called Matilda Dampier or Damp and called the Sophia Nursery.
Thank you
Sorry if you’ve answered these questions before … but I can’t locate (a) Northampton Place, Fulham, and (b) Lodge Avenue. Can you help?
Cathy Mosely
Northampton Place Fulham SW6 =Burlington Place 1939 Name stills exists.check google maps.
Thank you so much. I found relatives in my family tree who lived there for many years and the children all went to school in Munster Road.
Hello I am trying to find information about the old ponds factory in ealing london
Especially in the early 60s mainly the people working there and the locationb
This is not in our borough however
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Chesebrough-Pond also moved to Victoria Road in 1923, as the Chesebrough Manufacturing Co., which had formerly been in Holborn. The company took over Pond’s Extract Co. of Perivale in 1956 and in 1964 Pond’s, with three other companies which had become part of the group, moved to Park Royal. In 1978 the factory made Vaseline and Q-tips products, employing c. 350.
BRITISH history online
Hello gang. I’m trying to find the location of White City Restaurant on Uxbridge Road, around 1939. I have one photo of the outside, it seems to be next to (on the opposite corner) a Salmon & Gluckstein, and there is a gasometer visible in the distance over the rooftops behind. If someone could give me a hint where I should start looking, that would be wonderful, many thanks.
You might have to wait for the archive to open but there appear to be some items in their see their online catalogue entry There seem to be 4 items from about this time over and above photos of Uxbridge Road and other material that may be in the manual indexes and there is always the newspaper archive on microfiche that may have adverts etc. Of course there could be mmore than one White City Restaurant. Good luck
Thank you, friend! 🙂
I don’t think it would be the one referred to by fhhs as that was a restaurant inside the White City Stadium. Are you sure the restaurant was on the Uxbridge Road? I don’t think a gasometer would have been viewable from the Uxbridge Road in the 1930s.
Further to my enquiry about my grandmother (Annie Maria Woodrow) who lived in Rylston Road, I have now found she was married before as Annie Maria Oliver and lived in Orbain Road. Any knowledge / contacts appreciated.
Have asked on this site before but thought would try again.Looking to discover what happened to Ivy Elizabeth Martin, born Bristol 13/12/09.Have found info on her for 1928 and 1932. Appears on 1939 register as Ivy Turner living with husband Leonard at 37 Gunnerstone rd, Fulham.Can’t find marriage or death certificate and don’t know if she had any children.
If you email me I believe I can give you some information
see below
contact brianjeffreys1@gmail.com
My great grandfather was a Councillor then Mayor and Alderman of Fulham. He represented Hurlingham ward and was re-elected in 1900. I have traced his results from 1900 onward but cannot find the election results for earlier years especially 1897 which was I think the first elections of the Met Borough style. His name was James M Littleboy. Any help with the data or a signpost to a likely source would be appreciated. He became a freeman of the Borough in 1929 and I have the scroll and silver casket which I would be happy to loan to a museum for display if it is of any interest.
There should be details a plenty in the archive and you can search the catalogue online. In addition there will be minutes and much more when it eventually reopens.
Sadly there is no museum as yet.
It might be worth searching online newspapers for teh results you are missing if you are impatient to get at the facts.
Good luck
I think you should recheck the BRITISH newspaper archive again, but search for the name Littleboy and Fulham Vestry..the council did not really exist under the 1900 term.You will find a number of references to Littleboy. Etc lists of committees and election figures.
Hello, FHHS. Do you have any historic photos? I am researching the Turner family who lived at 92 Fulham Palace Road (originally 11 Bradmore Grove, off 92 Fulham Palace Road) from at least 1918 until, I think the 1990s. They owned Turners Florists in Beadon Road (right opposite Hammersmith Station) until the last of the Turners bequeathed the business to the then shop manager in 1996. I would be particularly interested in any photos of the Turners’ house but especially of the florist shop from before the Second World War, the earlier the better, but photos from any era would be welcome!
Thanks very much. Steve Bennett
The Society itself doesn’t have any archives although some members and users of the website have collections and you may be lucky. However the best bet is to await the reopening of the Archives in Hammersmith Library. There is an extensive photo record of most streets from the 60s and also older pictures for many. There may be card indexes of businesses and prominent families and certainly directories. If work was done on either property there may be details in the drainage plans. In the meantime you could have a look at the online archive catalogue
Good luck with your search. It is probable that some users of this site will remember the shop.
Good Evening Steve,
Whilst I unfortunately have no photographs of the Turner’s florist shop in Beadon Road, we have a public group on Facebook called “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”
Since the Turner’s shop was just behind the old market, that was in Bradmore Lane, some of our group descend from the Parker family in the market and one of these, Bill Parker, immediately recognised the name and the shop, since they used the florists for some of the family funeral wreaths.(Bill and his father had stalls in the market).
If the Turner family lived in Bradmore Grove, this was at the top of the old market and was the road that had the old Lyric Theatre in…a little way from Fulham Palace Road. We do have some photographs of Bradmore Grove on this group page.
Please feel free to take a look at the group, if of interest.
Kind Regards,
Cary
My mother was born at 26, Ravenscourt Mansions W6, She was named Sophia Annie Hunter Tacey the Hunter being her fathers surname. not on birth certificate. My grandmother was kept by Henry Hunter until the 1930 when he lost everything, He was married with children, I have tried to trace him but I only know his name I thought that maybe he could have been on the rental agreement !! and could maybe find out something more. As I was told my grandma also had her own restaurant in Lord Byrons house, this I have tried tracing, lots of story’s I have been told so not sure about any I have been doing my family tree for about 20years but this is my brick wall.
I hope you can help in some way
Regards Sue Mcfarlane, Australia
In the 1950″s we lived in London and my mother worked in the radiology department of Hammersmith Hospital. Some Edwardian houses were demolished opposite the hospital during the early fifties, around 1951-3, i think. My mother and other staff were asked if they would like to rummage through the attics before demolition, when my mother found a 19 century drawing book. I am trying to trace the descendants of Bridget Margaret Babery, the artist and owner of the book, before my mother found it. Do you have any records that might help me trace the owners of these houses before demolition, approximately in 1953? Thank you for your help, kind regards,
Kathryn
Dear FHHS, I am interested in the history of the short terrace of houses, now fronted by shops, at 95-103 Askew Road, W12. I notice they are pictured on a map from the 1850s, when the are seems to have been known as Starch Green. I wondered if you had any information on the small settlement at that location at that time?
Hi,
I am tracing my family tree and I know my great grandad Henry J Watson married to Ada Ellen Watson owned or ran a sweet shop in Fulham area would have been around the 1930’s as my grandad was born in 1928 and he would tell me stories of all the sweets he would eat. If there are any photos tv information I would be most grateful.
I have found my great great uncle on a school admissions entry from 1906. His address is given as Parsons Green House.
Could anyone tell me if this was the workhouse or a childrens home?
It would tie in with a family story that he was taken into care or the workhouse as a child but i cant find any more info at present.
Many thanks
Nicki
If the address is 9 Parsons Green that was the Board of Guardians receiving home. Now part of Lady Margaret School. I have a photo. Glad to share if this is the address you have too.
It doesnt give a number Susan, but that would tie in with family stories of him being taken into care. If you could share a photo that would be fantastic. Many thanks for your reply
If you could let me know your email. I don’t think there is a way to put a photo on this link.
thanks Susan, its zoowiemamma78@gmail.com
Hi
On 5 February 1954 the Manchester Guardian reported two schoolboys, Barry Savage and Thomas Sweeney were commenced in the Marlborough Magistrates Court for their help in thwarting a robbery of a camera from a car parked in Cadogan Lane where Barry Savage lived. I do not know the date of the actual incident but it was reported locally with a heading something like “The Dick Bartons of Chelsea” referring to Barry Savage and Thomas Sweeney I am trying to ascertain what newspaper would have covered this incident. They went to Barry Savage’s address and took photos for the press release. I would very much like to get a copy of the newspaper article Can you help?
Thanking you
Jeanette Savage
Daily Mirror for the 5th of February 1954 page 3 carries the story together with a photograph of the two boys it appears they were asked to take a camera from a car the special wording you are looking for all the “sleuths of Sloane Square”
Article in BRITISH newspaper archive.
Cannot thank you enough. I have found the article and would like to order a commemorative copy but am struggling to do so I need to be sure I am getting the right copy but on one website page 1 is different from the one I need. Do you have a suggestion where I could order a copy of this particular Daily Mirror.
Many thanks and kind regards
Jeanette Savage
Have no experience of ordering back copies of historic newspapers but historic-newspapers.co.uk seem to have it for about £40.00. There are other sites as well
MARRYAT STREET. My family lived in George Street in The Creek area until 1911 when they moved to Marryat Street which I thought was also in The Creek. I cannot find it. It is not shown on Booth’s Poverty Maps or the Ordnance Survey – not even in the OS Map Directory. I would be grateful if someone would tell me where Marryat Street was. Thank you, Stephen
There is a Marriott cl in feltham , about 2k. From Fulham it is located on the northumberland river , and other creeks .
Marryat Cottages Hammersmith W6 Albert Place or Cottages 1914 Marryat Street Hammersmith W6 George Street.
Trafalgar Street was also near the HIGH Bridge
Thank you both for your replies. I’ve since found information in trade directories. My family’s neighbours in George St in 1910 were the same as in Marryat Street in 1920. So it seems George Street was renamed Marryat Street in 1911/12 and the houses were renumbered. In Booths there were George St, Little George St and Great George St – all in The Creek, plus another George St near St Peter’s Sq. so renaming avoided confusion perhaps. Many thanks
Hi, I’m trying to find a birth record for Moran Doyle (female) born I believe in 1902 in Shepherds Bush, mother Ann Mary Theresa Doyle, its possible the father was Clark. I have found the mother living in Staines when a child, also on the 1911 census living in Herne Bay under the name of Clark, with all 4 children all named Clark including Moran, but the 3 younger children were birth registered as Doyle, so obviously not sure on Moran’s surname when registered (she being the eldest). Also were there any music halls in the area in 1902, as Mr C Clark may have performed in them. Many Thanks.
Hello,
I wonder if you can help me.
I’m trying to find out what happened to the company W. Cole & Sons, which was a coach builder by royal appointment, later a motor car company. The company was at 235 Hammersmith Road, and several addresses in Kensington.
It was established in 1800 by my maternal grandparent, and I can find little information after 1920
I have managed to find images of the old adresses in Kensington, but nothing for Hammersmith. I note now that there is a new development where the company might have stood.
Any light you can shed on this would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
Barry
You could try checking the London Gazette for dissolved companies this can be done online .Grace’s guide to British industrial history as you say does have a number of references including images of Cole adverts but nothing after 1920 although there are a couple of index entries up to 1923
Hi I’m researching my family ancestry , I’ve found out my great grandad was a window cleaner , who’s round was kings street etc Hammersmith around 1945 time , I would love to know , if you by chance , had and pictures or information on him .
His name was mr Leonard j wright born 1901
Many thanks
I am hoping somebody can help me with advice please. The area of Fulham and Hammersmith was hugely important in the development of art bronze casting from about 1890 onwards. The small number of skilled artisans capable of producing top quality art bronzes were mainly concentrated in the area. My own ancestors had 2 foundries, 1 in Parsons Green and then 1 in West Kensington, others were Art Bronze (sadly recently closed), George Broad of Hammesmith who produced Eros, Fiorini, Mancini, Manenti were all important founders. I feel that, especially given the recent closure of the long established Art Bronze of Michael Road, Fulham, some sort of exhibition to celebrate the association of LBH&F with the art bronze foundries and the many bronzes they produced which are now in museums and public places worldwide would be welcome, but I don’t know where to start.I have spoken with Thomas Dodd of the Events Team at LBH&F but he needs a proposal to be put to him, not for him to instigate it. I have quite a lot of information that I can offer to anyone who may be able to take this idea further, perhaps a local historian or writer? I used to work in the area for about 15 years, but I live in Eastbourne so am not up to date with anything Fulham related. Many thanks.
Interested to hear your proposal we may indeed be able To find someone who could write up a proposal. pleased that you have retained local historical records and with the Internet these days I know a whole new world has been opened Up looking at past things .Only a Couple of weeks ago I heard of items once again found in a skip for a family or a house clearance had dumped in the street I am pleased you have retained family records that can be and of great historical interest. I
met a couple of the bronze founders from Michael road a few years ago when FP had an exhibition of local artefacts.There was of course also WA Benson located in Fulham as well. Fulham Palace also have temporary exhibition space and it would be worth a conversation with them as well
Thanks, I do hope someone will be able to get this off of the ground. As far back as 1923 The Fulham Chronicle when writing on the casting of the RAF Memorial by Parlanti’s foundry said’ Through the activity and technical skill of the Art Bronze Foundry in Beaumont Road, West Kensington, Fulham has earned world-wide distinction as the birth-place of noted Memorials…’.
Hi
Hope you can help. Wondered if you had any pictures/info of pawnbrokers greyhound Road in Fulham. Owned by Jones family around 1900-1919
Appreciated and thank you.
Try this site at Leicester Uni . Given the name Jones it may take some time. If the shop was small it may be more productive to search the street directory rather than the commercial one.
Of course the archive will be a good source when it opens. You could always try their online search.
Good luck
Hello – I am trying to trace an address
known as 33a Wards Avenue, Fulham
where my great Uncle and Aunt were listed as living on the 1911 cencus.
Any help would be appreciated.
I can find no record of that name could it be Wardo Avenue between Fulham palace Road and Munster Road?
Wardo ave does exist in the 1860 Charles booth living map . Can be downloaded free . It changes the map from 1860 to present . There. Is no ward. Ave
My Grandmother, Gertrude Frances HOLLAND was born at The Stables, Lillie Road, Fulham on 24th May 1888. (apparently, there was no room at the Inn !)
Does anyone know where in Lillie Road the Stables were (or still are ?). Does anyone, by chance, have any photographic evidence ?
Thank you
Hi Alan i think they are or were down the side of the prince ph just before Lillie Bridge hope this helps.
Thank you Len for your help.
Regards
Lillie yard does exist in the 1860 Charles booth living map . Can be downloaded free . It changes the map from 1860 to present . It is behind the Lillie inn and stables
Thank you Barry.- Will investigate the Charles Booth Living Map as suggested
Thank you very much for the reply re Fulham Pottery. Sadly it will be a while before I can get down from Scotland to visit the archives but I will keep the note of the records on file.
Reference information and a number of images posted for easy access.
Nobody seems to have been able to help with a photo of the 2 up 2 down plain terraced houses on Rylston Road so, just out of curiosity does anyone have any personal connections to the surnames Abbott and/or Woodrow?
Sorry to be unresponsive but the best place for photographs is the local archive at Hammersmith Library which is currently closed due to the COVID19 lockdown. This came up but not sure it is our Rylston Rd
https://www.famloc.co.uk/oldtenementsrylstonroad1897/ You could fill in the form to see what they have.
According to this site it used to be Church Road.
This online book may hold some info too
Further to the above. Have a look at this map which shows a row of houses on the east side of Rylston Road, North of Estcourt Road. This terrace looks smaller than the others and it went with the building of Clem Atlee Court.
Thank you, that’s very helpful!
Charles booth map shows rylston rd there in 1850 , the house layouts look the same . It may still be there
Thank you!
Were you or your parents ever evacuated to a “bomb- babies War nursery” to Bath and in particular Denewood Grange .? This would be 1940 – 1946, and was for orphans of the London Bombings and “special cases” as my evacuation was. Especially looking for two Sylvias (one a sole survivor of a family of seven) and the other with a brother James,, a Michael, Irish twins Brian and Kevin, Dark haired Ronnie. No surnames but all were evacuated to ‘my sad little group’., who entered this Waifs and Strays nursey in August 1944
Are you or were you ever in any way related to Raymond Brierley, who I was friends with at the Sir John Lillie school? Just a thought.
I am researching the Bird family who did much building in Hammersmith in the 19C. My wife’s 2 x great grandfather was Edward Bird son of George Bird and 2 x Great grandmother was Rachael Bird daughter of Stephen Bird. I see that Jacina Bird gave a talk on the Bird Builders three or so years ago and wondered if anything had been published on this or whether this can be passed on to Jacina.
Thanks
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Hi, wondering if you can tell me where I can find out when our house was originally built?
I live in Stowe Rd W12 8BE.
Any help appreciated.
Stowe Road was built circa 1865
The LCC books “List of the streets and places within the administrative county of London” held by the local archive at Hammersmith Library, the LMA and TNA will list when the street name was first authorised (not strictly when the houses were built as they were often done in phases). When the archive opens you will be able to look for records authorising the development and there are records of some of the builders so you may be lucky. They also have a very good collection of maps that could give you a good idea of when the building was done. There could be old photographs too. Finally they have a record of drainage plans that often contain details of the building and sometimes detailed plans. As a house owner these are well worth exploring but you have to give notice so they can be brought out of storage. Searching the online archive catalogue shows there are also a number of items deposited at the archive that maybe of interest too.
Having whetted your appetite for the archives at Hammersmith Library (Open Mondays and Tuesdays normally) you will now have to wait until the lockdown is over. You can start by using the Old OS maps at the National Library of Scotland which are online. The 6″ maps here may help.
Good luck with your search.
Hello I’m researching family history and have found a baptism record of St Augustine church Fulham for January 1912 that includes a relative, but I’m stuck in reading/finding the road name. It looks like Mooltan Road but I can’t find this street. I know the church was bombed in October 1940. Any help would be appreciated. The relative is Jessie Ross (there is also another person listed in the same month at the same road)
Lillie Road, Keith. More recently the parish has joined with the parish of St Alban to become St Alban with St Augustine, Margravine Road, Fulham. The patronage is shared between the Bishop of London and the Corporation of London.
Hi Keith Molton Street was bombed in 1944 from a V1 flying bomb also the surrounding streets as well, Normand Park was built in their place, hope this helps Len
Thanks for that info
Actually it was a V2 that bombed Normand Park and decimated the whole area. I might be wrong but I think thaty was the only one to fall in the Fulham ~Area
Thank you for that info it’s very helpful.
regards
Keith
Quoting from Properts Parish it says “the first V1 to come down in Fulham fell in St. Augustine’s Parish In Lintaine Grove just before 5 am on Sunday morning June18th. 15 people were killed and 29 seriously injured .Fulham’s second flying bomb fell on St Mary’s Church Hammersmith Road later the same day injuring 14 and killing one person, the church was destroyed .Fulham’s next worst day was on Saturday, July 1. Among the 3 V.1 ‘s that dropped inFulham was one in Mooltan Street which killed two people And badly injured 3 more.”
Thanks for that info it’s very helpful
Regards
Keith
It could be Moylan Road off Lillie Road. See this online map from the NLS. If you are using ancestry or find my past you should be able to search for the parents in the 1911 census.
Hope this helps. If not the LBHF archives in Hammersmith Library when they reopen should help.
Good luck
|Thanks for the tip re Moylan Road. I’ve seen the 1891, 1901 & 1911 census info and they’d were at different addresses.
There is an excellent book for those who wish to learn about St Augustines church and the area , it called Propert’s parish, and is by Denis A. Clack. Published in 1994, it is a thick paperback, but prone to breaking up
Have checked .internet copies are available used for £9 or so.email me at history@allsaints-fulham.org.uk if you can’t track down store..
My great grandfather, Joseph Thomas Marriner (1858-1917) was born in Fulham and, like his older brother, John, became a potter or potter’s journeyman. I believe they both worked at the Fulham Pottery. John was a potter’s boy in the 1871 census and Joseph was given as a potter on his 1881 marriage entry. Do you know whether there are any apprenticeship records, please, and if so where they are kept? I understand both John Doulton and Wallace Martin of the Martin Brothers did their apprentceships at the Fulham Pottery so I guess there are records somewhere. I have been down to Burlington Road to take photos of the house where my grandfather was born in 1894 and was delighted to see the remaining bottle kiln standing rather incongruously in the grounds of an office block at the end of the road. I have found the history of the pottery absolutely fascinating and would be very grateful for any help you can give me as I am trying to write up my family history.
Thank you.
Giz Marriner
PS I now live in Scotland so it is going to be a while before I can get down to look at any records…but it is good to plan ahead!
You need Hammersmith archives
1
1869-1969: ledgers, day, cash, letter, time, wages, sales, stock and despatch books, misc corresp, price lists, copies of plans
Hammersmith and Fulham Archives and Local History Centre
DD/255,DD/261,DD/336,DD/340,DD/379,DD/448
NRA 16821 Fulham Pottery
2
1901-1978: corresp, ledgers, wills and catalogues
Hammersmith and Fulham Archives and Local History Centre
A2006/18
See if you can get hold of The Journal of ceramic history number 11 John delights pottery 1672 to 1978 a collection of documentary sources published Stoke-on-Trent Museum 1979 edited by Dennis Hazelgrove and John Murray it’s a very useful publication but unfortunately it does not have an index.
It’s an amazing collection of material some 284 pages long
Hello. I would be very grateful for your help. I am looking for any information on the death of my Uncle. James H. Kelly born 1st quarter 1927 and died 1st quarter 1936. I wonder if there may be any newspaper articles regarding this. He lived in Fulham with his family. Edward James and Rose Francis Kelly. Very many thanks Jan
Hello,
I was wondering if it was possible to source original plans for our current home on (42) Parfrey St. in Hammersmith? I understand that there were a number of different layouts for the houses on the street when first built.
Thanks,
Rob
Your best bet is to request the drainage plan file for Parfrey Street. Drainage plans list all the applications to modify drains over the years. They often have detailed plans attached if you are lucky this may help. Also there may be something in the items deposited with the archive referencing that Street. Just type the street name in the Search box of the online archive catalogue
Good luck with your quest.
Hello my name is Ian Freeman and I used to work for Lyon bakery at Cadby Hall for 5 years till 1977. What I see on Google street map as Lyric House on Hammersmith Road, looks to me like J.Lyons central laboratories as I remember it, is this the case. Many thanks, Ian Freeman.
This is not related to your enquiry but I wonder if your wife – or mother – was a Maureen Freeman? Maureen was a friend of my mother’s and I seem to remember a connection with Lyons. I’ve been trying to locate Maureen for a while, with no success.
D Morris
Yes. I understand that Margaret Thatcher had her first job here
Hello,
I’ve just discovered that about 1892 my grandmother lived at 7 Jarell Mews in Fulham and I wonder if there are any sources that might tell me more about the mews including old maps of the locality?
I’m mostly interested from a family history angle, but as a retired council town planner who did a lot of conservation work and have an interest in the history of architecture and design which I did as part of my studies, I would be very interested to know more about the place and if any special protections are in place.
My family were originally from Kilburn and I hail from Willesden although we no longer live in London. Cheers.
I cannot find Jarell Mews in anything to hand. If you have any other clues that might narrow it down then the following may help.
The definitive history of Fulham in 3 volumes online by Feret:
https://wellcomecollection.org/works/nqjrefna
Directories from Leicester Uni:
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4
Old OS Maps from National Library of Scotland:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/95470395
There should be more when the archive opens again archives@lbhf.gov.uk
So for now, good luck with your search
We received this enquiry from Lindsey can anyone help? we have directed her to the Archive but it may be some time before they are open.
I was curious to ask, please, about the death in Fulham of a professional cricketer by the name of Kenneth Brian Day on 19 January 1971; he was only 35 years of age at the time.
Do any archived newspaper stories or other sources list a cause of death?
The Wikipedia article states that he played for Middlesex –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Day
Many thanks,
Lindsey Jauregui
Hello the death Is recorded in the Kensington post in February 1971 it appears that Kenneth was a plumber and was stripping laid off a roof shortly after it been raining with another person including his father suddenly he was no longer on the roof and had fallen five floors sustaining serious multiple injuries and died from laceration to the brain
Why, when I click on ‘Contact’ in your heading do I automatically get the pdf of a Thesis downloaded? Surely this is a bug? I certainly didn’t ask for it to be downloaded. Is it dangerous?
Martin
Yes I have had the same problem. I assume someone has it linked to their avatar or web profile. I have tried to find it myself and can find no hidden objects on the site. I will shortly be upgrading the site and hope to get rid of it then. Many thanks for reporting this.
Looking for information on my great grandfather Hezekiah Atkinson, son of Mathew and Charlotte Atkinson – left Hammersmith for Australia around1880?
regards Pam
Hello,
I live in Robert Gentry House, Gledstanes Road. I have been trying to find out what happened to the houses that originally occupied this site.
Initially I assumed a bomb had destroyed them, but checking the London Bombing Map shows that no bomb exploded here.
I have looked at old newspapers, all they mention is when Robert Gentry House was built.
Looking at a 1913 map of the area the original houses are clearly marked as having existed. I would very much like to satisfy my curiosity as to why so many of them were demolished.
Hopefully someone out there may know the answer
Thank you
Tania
Hi Tania,
I found this info out when I researched where my grandmother lived at Snells Park during and after WW2. She was moved onto Tottenham. If houses were Terrace housing, quite often the buildings would deteriorate over time and then gradually be condemned. It was an initiative of the Government at the time to replace deteriorating housing and they would condemn the lot (regardless if the people owned it or not – they would be given a nominal payout and offered other housing in another area recently built). I am not sure if it still occurs today as I don’t live in UK but when I visited in 2008 I saw some all boarded up with a notice of condemnation and a date of demolish up near Knottingley. So it did then…. Not sure if this answers your question but gives you an idea of a possibility. Cheers
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Hello Rosina,
Yes, it seems like a very plausible explanation as to why the houses were demolished.
Many thanks for replying
Tania
I’m looking for information about a pub fire in shepards bush before 1946 the pub is called the royal oak thank u
Hi, as a child I can remember (this is in the mid/late 1950s) visiting my grandmother at her house in Rylston Road. I remember the house as a very plain small 2 up/2 down terraced house with a small backyard and outside toilet. I think it was demolished when they built the flats. Now I can only find photos of rather upmarket bay window houses. Am I misremembering?
Good afternoon,
I live in St James St W6. I’ve been trying to find out the name of the architect of The Hammersmith Storm Water Pumping Station which was built in 1828.
Many thanks.
Rosa Coles
I can find no direct reference to it in what I have available or on the web. However page 105 of our publication “A History of Hammersmith” it states that W. Tierney Clark was engineer to West Middlesex Water Company, so it could be him. He went on to build the 1827 Hammersmith Bridge that preceeded Bazagette’s current one. It also says that Bird firm of builders were their bricklayers. It is therefore likely there will be some records in the archive and you can search online from the Archives link on http://www.LBHF.gov.uk website. Just found a further reference on page 109 to his building part of the Waterworks complex so I think he is probably your man.
Good luck with your research.
William Tierney Clark FRS FRAS[1] (23 August 1783 – 22 September 1852) was an English civil engineer particularly associated with the design and construction of bridges. He was among the earliest designers of suspension bridges.
William Tierney Clark
William Tierney Clark Barabás Miklós.jpg
Born
23 August 1783
Bristol Nationality English
Died
22 September 1852 (aged 69)
Hammersmith, Middlesex
Engraving of the first Hammersmith Bridge, made in 1827
Marlow Bridge
Széchenyi Chain Bridge, Budapest
Born in Bristol, he was initially apprenticed to a local millwright and – guided by noted engineers Thomas Telford and John Rennie – he progressed to practice as a consulting civil engineer, moving to London where, from 1811, he was also engineer to the West Middlesex Waterworks Company (the engine house and other buildings involved in a scheme to pump water from reservoirs at Barnes to Hammersmith and other parts of London were designed by him
Info from wikipedia
Hi, I’m trying to source some additional information on a Patrick McAuliffe. He was living in England for some years (originally from Ireland) and died in Fulham in 1971. He worked as a barman in the 30s/40s. We thought he might have had a spell in the army but I haven’t had any success in finding any information on this.
Thanks.
MY great grandfather Charles Seymour Jones was seriously very injures in an accident at Battersea Power station one December and died of his injuries 6th Jan the following year in mid 1930’s.
Where can I find more information please? I know the accident is documented somewhere in National Archives as some years ago I saw a record of the inquest online but never followed it up.
Can you help.
Steffanie Ward
Hi, my great grandparents lived on Silvio Street during ww2. I can’t find Silvio Street on any map. Can you confirm where this was in Fulham. Thanks Bill
Please check typing as there does not seem to be a street of this name in all of London
Sorry, The name was not recorded in Bruce’s lists, however I have now found it in Kelly’s West kensington/ Fulham local directory for 1939/40. There as a Silvio Mews and a Silvio Street, however no residents are listed only the Tonic Wine company at 1a.
Its location today would be approximately under the Lillie Road opposite Clem Attlee Court
Silvio Street was part of the Normand House Estate and its orchard and was roughly where Normand Park in Lillie Road now sits. Normand House and many surrounding streets were demolished by a landmine in 1941 and a VI rocket in 1944. The park was built on the bombed out areas after the war and opened in 1952.
I lived there as a child and watched the park being built after the bomb site was cleared.
Dear Sirs,
Can anyone help me find photos of the Lord Clyde pub or beershop which was situated in Worlds End Passage from the mid 1800s.
Thank you,
Andy Carroll
Worlds End Passage is in Chelsea. There is a picture of a Lord Clyde pub at 124 Estcourt St in Fulham in the book Hammersmith and Fulham Pubs (see publications) and this is credited to have come from LBHF archives. If Chelsea is the one then contact Kensington and Chelsea Archives (see their library website)
Good luck
Thank you very much for this information, I shall follow it up.
Best regards, Andy
Go to pub wiki.com .it shows the complete history of the pub. And all London pubs , including address changes , demolition etc. also all licencees since the records
Hi Barry,
That was the first place I looked but there is no photo of the pub. I have a small collection of Victorian pewter pub tankards which are usually engraved with the pub’s name and the initials of the publican who paid for them. I was offered a tankard from the Lord Clyde and I always try to find a period photo of the pub any tankard once belonged to. I realise the Lord Clyde was in Chelsea but a Google search led me here as it was mentioned in someone’s comment but there are so many comments it would take days to read them all! Thank you very much for the good suggestion, the members of this Society are a very kind and helpful bunch.
Best regards,
Andy
Look up the rylston murder mystery 1884 . , the London murder mysteries : Ellen visited the lord Clyde fulham Before being murdered . You might read the case in the old Bailey reports .they uselly have pictures
Hi Barry, you are incredibly kind to keep helping me, thank you. However, it seems there were two Lord Clyde pubs fairly close together, one in World’s End Passage Chelsea and the other in Etscourt Rd. Fulham. I suspect the one you are referring to is the Fulham pub but I wanted photos of the Chelsea one. Thanks again, Andy
Andy, you are quite right about there being two Lord Clyde pubs in Victorian times. One in Estcourt Road Fulham, and one at 39 Worlds End Passage in Chelsea. Try this link for info. https://pubwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/Chelsea/LordClyde.shtml It may have just been a private house, that sold alcoholic drinks, which did happen in those days.The two main pubs along there in those days were Worlds End Tavern and Blantyre Arms at 29 Blantyre Street. I used to live in Seaton Street in the 1960’s which was just off Blantyre Street. Cheers Steve Harding
Sorry to repeat but my father was born in 1911 at 86 Ormiston Road (now Ormiston Grove). Can anyone tell when the current 86 Ormiston Grove was built please ? Trevor
Circa 1878
Thanks Peter
We have an ancestor Arthur Head admitted to St Dunstans road school apparently at the age of three in 1886 and leaving in 1894 but can find no information about the school. Perhaps the word “school” is a euphemism for something else ? (London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911)
Any thoughts would be welcome.
Whilst the archive is closed it is difficult to establish details but if you read this report about the building of a 6th form college on the site it gives a little history of the previous buildings. It seems there was a board school there so probably nothing untoward although the Workhouse, now Charing Cross Hospital adjoins this road. There are probably pictures of the school in the archive; when it opens.
Good luck with your research.
Thank you, I’m just intrigued by his age at the time – claimed to be three but only 21/2 which would be young even today. It does though seem to be a normal school.
Hello all.
I wonder if any one knows how I could find a grave in Fulham palace cemetary. My mother thinks she’s visited it before when she was small but I have searched the area she said and can not find anything. The sir name is Rigarlsford. There should only be one there. Probably been removed.
Contact the cemeteries department of L B of Hammersmith and Fulham
Trying to find out what happened to Ivy Elizabeth Turner (born Martin) born 13/12/1909 living in Gunnerstone rd on 1939 register.
A quick look at Free BMD shows no results for Marriages or deaths of those names in London. The following did come up:
Surname Given Name Spouse District Volume Page Transcriber
Marriages Sep 1972
TURNER IVY E. BEAUMONT NEWHAM 5E 1874 (this is page no)
Deaths Dec 1974 (>99%)
TURNER IVY ELIZABETH 17NO1906 LEWISHAM 14 809
The death has the wrong date of birth for a match. Probably worth a bit of perseverence with FreeBMD (type into Google). You may be able to look at electoral registers in Ancestry or find my past to see when she moved away and who else was sharing the house which may give some clues.
Good luck.
Do you have any 19th century pictures of Hurlingham Road or indeed Parson’s Green.
There are a number in “Fulham Old and New” which is available on line
Re slum in Fulham. Look up Charles booth mapping of London . It will show The status of your family’s housing . It will cover that period
Hi,
I was wondering if Fulham was an immigrant Jewish community in the 1880’s to the early 1920’s?
Just curious as my family all seem to have lived in or around this area, and they had come over from Russia.
Thanks
Garry
In the 1600s there was a Jewish school near the Mall run by a Mr Cohen but I can find no real evidence of Jewish settlement in particular here. The period you mention covers the time of rapid growth and much building which would naturally attract those seeking work or business opportunities. It was also a period when the area became industrialised and very crowded with multiple families in the poorer houses. The main religious draw was for Catholics – not only for the work but also there is a long tradition of Catholic institutions in Hammersmith.
Hey Garry, my whole family lived in Fulham from 1920s to 50s. They were Russian / Lithuanian Jews who had originally been settled in Wales and then moved to London in the 20s. I don’t know if there was a Jewish community there, or whether there were enough Bravos to be considered a community in themselves!
Hi Sarah, thanks for that. It just seems odd that there were about three generations at least of my family all around Fulham and Chelsea area around that time. Perhaps it’s the same as you and there were a lot of Gromowski’s in that area!
Thanks
Hi Sarah – my grandmother was Esther Bravo, daughter of Harris. Let’s connect. Jonathon Fletcher.
Will send email address to Sarah so you don’t have to publish.
Hi, my father was born at 86 Ormiston Road (now Ormiston Grove). I suspect it was a slum in 1911 and wonder if anyone knows if/when it was demolished and replaced ? Thanks, Trevor
Ormiston Road was not demolished; it was just a name change to Ormiston Grove. It was not a slum.
Dear History Society,
I am particularly interested in the Fulham Fields market gardens and the lives of the market gardeners working in the fields during the early/mid 1800’s, very many of whom were Irish immigrants.
Are there any publications that you know of which cover research into this?
I also wondered whether there are any market garden workers employment records in existence?
I am aware of all the genealogy online records available so I am really looking for quite specific research/knowledge of these market gardens.
Any information will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Anne Scott
Understanding that Nurseries are different from Market Gardens I think you may find material to help in our publication West London Nursery Gardens (see Publications and review in our homepage blog). It particularly quotes the Elliot and Dancer families who did both types of gardens and had land at Fulham Fields. It includes an extensive bibliography and references for both published and unpublished material at LBHF Archives. The Cottage Gardener which became the Journal of Horticulture is quoted often as is The Company of Gardeners. He also uses Feret’s Fulham Old and New available online here courtesy of the Welcome Collection. You can search LBHF’s archive online now which may help but records will only be available after the lockdown. Someone more knowledgeable may come up with more ideas so keep an eye out for replies.
Good luck with your research.
Very many thanks for your helpful reply. I will certainly take a look at the publications which you have recommended regarding Fulham Fields. Kind regards Ann Scott
On Tue, 5 May 2020 at 13:00, The Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society wrote:
> fhhs commented: “Understanding that Nurseries are different from Market > Gardens I think you may find material to help in our publication West > London Nursery Gardens (see Publications and review in our homepage blog). > It particularly quotes the Elliot and Dancer families ” >
The 1911 census shows my grandfather Harry Edwin Smith living at 145 Dawes Rd Fulham with a family called Jones the head of this family was a William James Jones who, like my grandfather was a watch jobber can anyone tell me if this address was a jewellers and if so what it was called? Many thanks
Hi does anyone know about Gibbons family GEorge Gibbons 1880s to 1950s who lived in hammersmith thank you
Hi can anyone help please I am trying to trace Lambert family and Lowe who I think lived in Margravine road some are buried at margravine cemetery it would of been 1880s to 1950s thank you
Hello,
I am conducting some research about the West Kensington Congregational Church (these days Bhavan cultural center) in the period between its opening and 1914.
Would you know of any published testimonies or biographies from members of this church or people close to it during this period or any publication mentioning the church or its Sunday School? Extensive church books and press references are available in the LBHF local archives but I would be interested in external sources such as testimonies about the church and its life.
Thanks in advance for your help.
For years I have passed a war grave in Fulham Cemetery off Munster Road, and always been very touched by the death of such young woman in the war. I am now trying to write a play for a competition to mark the Battle of Britain and have been trying to find out more about this woman (as would like to focus the play around her). I have tried Ancestry, the Records Office and even joined the Forces Record register but cannot find out anything other than when she died. Ideally I would like to know more about her family and life in Fulham, and also the cause of her death at a young age.
The inscription on the grave reads as follows:
213016 ACW 2nd Class
D.M Adams
Women’s Auxillary Air Force
7th Nov 1943, aged 19
and underneath
‘In loving memory of our daughter Doris, killed by enemy action.’
It would be so helpful to know where and why she died, and I have managed to find out that her parents were Walter Henry and Ellen Adams of Fulham. I tried looking up the newspaper archives but the search brought up so many results (all unrelated and not the right year) that it was impossible to find anything relevant. I was hoping there may be a local obituary in one of the papers.
I don’t have long now to write the play, and have spent a considerable amount of time trying to locate relevant material, so would be extremely grateful for any suggestions. With many thanks, Alexa.
I have some basic information from FINDMYPAST
probably same as you have will have a look and see if anything else
I have found an article re her funeral in the local paper
contact me as shown before
brianjeffreys1@gmail.com
Many thanks Brian and will email you now. I have now learnt she died in a terrible bombing in Putney on Nov 7th 1943.
There is some information on the Commonwealth War Graves site: https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead/results?initial=D%2BM&lastName=Adams&war=2
Many thanks Peter.
Have you tried the RAF Association.
Many thanks.
Hope this helps a little, Alexa. The 1939 War Census shows a Walter Henry and Ellen Adams living at 26, Orbain Road, Fulham. The death of Doris M Adams, aged 19, was recorded at Wandsworth.
Aircraftwoman 2nd Class, Doris Margaret Adams,(Service Number 2130161) enlisted after August 1942 died (as you said) on 7th November, 1943. She was the daughter of Walter Henry and Ellen Adams of Fulham.
Hi Mark – thank you so much for replying and giving me this further information. Actually, it gave me a bit of a start, as I live in the house opposite her parents (and presume this is also where Doris lived!). It’s funny that I have always wanted to write about her, and your information seems to confirm that I should! I have also discovered she was killed by a bomb on 7th Nov 1943 at the Milk Bar in Putney – a huge bombing which caused a horrendous loss of life. Very harrowing to read about.
I really appreciate you help, and very best wishes, Alexa
Thanks, Alexa. Just thought I ‘d mention that, coincidentally, my mother lost s friend in the same bombing.
Good luck.
Mark
I’m so sorry to read that Mark. I know WWII was full of tragedy and loss of life, but that particular bombing was so devastating – not least because so many young people lost their life, like Doris and your mother’s friend. So terrible.
Just another quick question – on the info you sent me it said her parents lived at number 26 Orbain Road, but Brian Jeffries kindly sent me a newspaper article on Doris’s funeral which stated her parents lived at number 7. It’s not that important, but as I live in the street I wanted to ask an elderly neighbour just in case he remembered anything about the family. As yours came from a more official course I’m inclined to go with that one but any thoughts on how I could confirm this?
With thanks again, Alexa
Alexa, my source (findmypast.co.uk) has the Watson family living at number 7 and the Adams family at number 26. However, the wartime census was 1939 so I suppose their is a chance that by 1943 they had moved or perhaps Doris lived at 7 and her Mum and Dad were at 26.
The record for 26 shows five other people living there as well as Walter and Ellen. One is James Adams, aged 13 or 14, who must be a son and is shown as ‘At School’ and another is John Adams, aged 3 and also ‘At School’ (which I would have thought was unlikely). The other three are not visible as they say ‘The Record for this person is officially closed’. Records for individuals remain closed for a century after their birth (the 100-year rule) unless it can be proven they passed away before this milestone’. When this shows, the records can only be opened when someone confirms that the person is now deceased. Difficult to confirm unless you’re a family member with exact knowledge. Of course, there’s a chance that the three people in this case are completely unrelated to the Adams family.
Because the census is only published every 10 years (the wartime one was an exception) and we’re not due the next one (for 1921) for another year or so there’s no way of confirming whether Doris Adams was living at 26 with mum and dad or at 7 with the Watson family but the record for number 7 does say there were 4 people living there and they’re all named.
Thank you so much for more info Mark. It is so interesting, and as it all new to me, I am learning a lot (such as the 100 year rule). It’s only because I live in the same street, I would love to know the actual house she lived in, but as you say, it may be difficult to know for sure. My feeling is it was no 26 and perhaps the newspaper got the wrong house number?
Anyway, I so appreciate all your help in this and so glad I found this site!
Kind regards again, Alexa.
I believe that The Coffee Bar was in Putney High Street near where the Upper Richmond Road crosses the High Street. Might have been in the same building as Zeeta House. On the right hand side of the High Street when looking towards Putney Bridge. I recall often visiting The Black and White coffee bar near that location as a teenager in the 60’s. Putney has always been regularly visited by those living in Fulham through the ages. Just the river separating them. My Mum recalled often visiting Putney to go to the cinema during WWII. She lived for a while in Putney Bridge Road and Dad came from Sands End near Wandsworth Bridge. They married in 1941. There is quite a bit of material online concerning that bombing. I was born in 1945 and spent the first 30 years of my life in Fulham.
I am researching the O’CONNELL family and I’m hoping that someone in your community could give me some guidance on where to get further information.
In the 1901 census I have Timothy O’CONNELL living at No1 Home Cottage, Distillery Lane, Fulham and, I’m assuming his brother, James O’CONNELL living next door at No. 2. They are both listed as Greengrocers with own business.
Would this have been a shop or market traders? James died before 1911 and his family had moved to Brook Green. Timothy or his family, I cannot find any further info.
Any help will be appreciated.
Regards
David
Try Online Directories at Leicester Uni. Its clunky but worth a try. Otherwise the LBHF archives after the lockdown.
Good luck
Thanks for taking the time to respond. “clunky” doesn’t start to describe it. Finally found how to navigate through it. Distillary lane very hard to find, but only No 1 listed, so no help. If I was a betting man I would say the brothers were “barrow boys”. Although it hasn’t helped, I now have another resource for my research, so thank you for introducing me to this web site. Regards, David
Trying to find if you or anybody has information re my relative from the 1875, 1880 period . His name is John church. And we have traced him having a public house .inn , in Hammersmith . Fulham area , the pub was called the rising sun . But we cannot identify the address .??.possiblynorth of Hammersmith bridge
The pub at 477 Fulham Road was the Rising Sun first licensed in 1855, there was also a Sun in Askew road Hammersmith that was flattened in a bombing raid. You should be able to find licensing records when the archive in hammersmith library opens again.
Good luck
Hello, i wonder what information you would have on Fulham Pottery and maybe Lambeth Pottery, i believe my ancester William Odell Rathbone was a foreman there around 1890 to 1908. Is there any files on the workforce of fulham pottery etc, thank you gary howard
If you go to LBHF Archive online you will find that searching for Fulham Pottery throws up lots of records such as ledgers, day books, cash books and letter books. There are also likely to be some photos in the archive too but sadly you will have to wait until the “lockdown” is over. You must contact the archives@lbhf.gov.uk to book a day (Monday or Tuesday) to see the records you are interested in as other than photos everything has to be brought up the week before from the archive store.
They say patience is a virtue!
Good luck with your search
I lived in Hartopp Avenue in 1950s, I,m looking for my best friends of those times, Johny Brown and Arthur Adams, if they are still alive I would love to have contact with them.
I’d welcome any info and/or leads about a fire at Fulham Baths in late 1942 / early 1943 in which a stoker named George Davis died.
Thanks
Just come across request for any info on Heathfield House School Fulham, but have no idea when it was posted. I was there from around 1947-1952!
Hi Wendy I was there from about 1949 to 1955 my name was Janet Passman and the other kids in my class were Christopher Thorpe Paul Johnston Rodney Moss etc if you married what was your maiden name? it was such a small school but what a wonderful teacher Miss James was!
Hi Janet. Wendy Phillips was my maiden name. I certainly remember the name Rodney Moss, and I think Christopher Thorpe. Other kids I remember were Peter Cottington, Peter Allan, Dawn Horsman. Can’t remember how many kids there were and how she fitted us all in!
How many times has lakeside road been renamed and what were the previous names?
My gt,gt aunt lived there when it was Raleigh Road. She lived there at number 23 in 1907. Prior to that it was Wharton road. It changed from Wharton Road To Raleigh Road on the 12th if February 1907. I don’t know of any other changes. Hope this helps. 🌈
I am trying to find the location of the Colemans buildings in Hammersmith, where some relatives lived in 1901. They were scheduled for clearance in 1936
Hi I’m just wondering if anyone can remember group of young tearaways that. Run in The streets. of Hammersmith Riverside Gardens early Seventies to mid 70s
Hi, my old pal John O’ Keefe lived in Riverside Gardens with his lovely parents Joe and Flo,
Hi I wonder if anyone can remember the McCarthys who lives in Fulham in the 50s and 60s I wanted if you could tell me anything about them as my mother father’s mother was aMcCarthy
Stephen Rimmer S.Rimmer3@edu.salford.ac.uk is researching Television Centre. He been researching at the Local Studies & Archives in the past but would now like to get some first hand reminiscences about the building, how locals feel about it etc.
He asks:
Regarding my research into Television Centre, I wonder if any members of your local history group or visitors to the website would be willing to help me with my research by answering a few questions (in writing). My academic/published research is going very well but I need some unpublished resources. I am not looking for anyone with knowledge of dates of events or that kind of thing, but rather I am trying to get an idea of how people who work or live locally in Shepherd’s Bush feel about the building which sits just a few hundred metres down the road from your building. I am writing a chapter for my dissertation on the affection that people have for the building and the role it plays in the area. I know for example, that a local school was invited to paint the mural which adorned the fence which was at the back of the building in Hammersmith Park during redevelopment. I am trying to understand how TVC fits into life in Shepherd’s Bush now that the building has a mixed-use public and private function. Any help would be most appreciated.
I was fortunate enough to visit Shepherd’s Bush/White City earlier in the year and my studies aside, it is my favourite part of London so I hope to return when everything is back to normal. I am now looking for unpublished stories and anecdotes from locals, if possible.
So you can get back to him direct using the email address above or if you wish to share more widely can post on here.
FHHS
Hi I am looking for news on my great grandfather born around 1900 last lived Ifield Rd Chelsea in 1960
Can you help.
Trevor, afraid this is outside our patch.
Suggest you go to Ancestry or FindMyPast on the internet (there is a subscription) or for free in most libraries when they open again. You will need his full name, it would help to know where he was born.
Electoral registers may give you his details but the latest released census is 1911 so you may be able to trace him through those in either of those programs. You could use Free register of Births Marriages and Deaths – FreeBMD. If you don’t have enough details work back from relatives you know more about.
Armed with full name and address you may be able to get more from RBKC Archives who are likely to have some photographs or maps of the street. Depending upon his employment/business or status you might get notices in the local newspapers or directories.
Good luck with your search
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Hello,
I have recently researched my DNA and found out that my father’s family came from Fulham.
Last name Coleshill. I was wonder if you have records of an address.
Funny thing is, I was adopted in 1960 as an infant and only in the last two years have found out my paternal history.
Thank you, sincerely
Tracy Larocque
Hi
Please see the January 2019 reply by Karen Newington. This seems to answer your question at least in part.
If as Karen suggests you can get details from Ancestry (free in most libraries) you can then look at addresses in the electoral register to see if there are still Coleshills in the same property.
Good luck. (when libraries eventually reopen)
If you like I can give Karen your email address and you can communicate directly. Let me know on fhhslist@gmail.com
Backtrack Fulham is another site to check on Facebook as well. Both sites have photographs of the street traders in North End Road with St John’s church in the background. I have not been down the market recently, but if the CoxsJordan or Seaby families are still trading they might be able to help
Tracy try We grew up in Fulham site on FB some Coleshills on there
Tracy try We grew up in Fulham site on FB some Coleshills on there
Sorry its I grew up in Fulham site on FB some Coleshills on there
Hi Tracy, I was born and grew up in the Sands End area of South Fulham. I knew a Coleshill family who lived in Wandsworth Bridge Road. David, the son was in the 24th Fulham boy scouts when I was in the 1950’s. I know his Dad was a stallholder in the well known Fulham market in North End Road. I believe that they were part of a larger Coleshill family in Fulham.
Hello, I’m working with a company local to Fulham on their history. I’m looking for a recommendation as to a good history of Fulham which covers the 20th century. I’m interested in how the area changed and groew over the period; and especially interested in the impact of the Blitz, bomb damage and the post war years.
Any steers as to books, articles etc would be much appreciated!
You have not mentioned the local companies name it may help if I knew this if you would like to email me at history@allsaints-fulham.org.uk I will see if I can offer more specific advice however in the meantime you could check our publications list and also try to search on AmazonFor general books about Fulham by Barbara Denny that you might be able to purchase or read at the local library or Hammersmith archives.
PS don’t forget to check background information
Page as well.
I was living in Sand End during the War and I can write to you about some of the Bomb damage in my area
Hello,
I would like to ask if you have any pictures around the 1940-60 period of Great Church Lane, Hammersmith. Also any knowledge of a Scrapyard around that area that was owned by Joe White. I would appreciate any information as I understand the whole area has been re-developed and there a no original houses on Great Church lane?
Kind regards
Graham.Boddy
Search at Hammersmith archives. If this was the time the gyratiry system was being developed there should be material/photographs available.
How lucky you were, I also met a Father who showed me those books, I was looking for information about my Grandfather and his family, the children all went to the St Thomas Church School but didn’t offer to photocopy anything!!
C of E the church hall became the church
Hi, I’m trying to check if a photo exists of Maurice Childs, the man who ‘saved’ Hammersmith Bridge in 1939 by shoving an IRA bomb into the river.
My previous reply seems to have got temporarily delayed but you will find to reiterate the British newspaper library has newspapers online for 1939 with photographs of Boris Childs do an exec search with illustrations and you will find them I copy here information on voice for other interested readers from Hammersmith bridge by Charles Hailstone . Morris Childs the I immediate hero of the day said he felt the blast he had heard hissing from the suitcase and “I decided that the best place for it would be in the water”. he was honoured in many ways King George the six awarded him the medal of the civil division of the order of the British Empire for gallantry exchanged in 1941 for the George Cross . Hammersmith Council presented him with a clock and the LCC the sum of 50 Guineas . he received a silver medal and box from the Borough of Barnes which arrange the public dinner at the Bull East Sheen and there were numerous commendations including those from Parliament and the judiciary Morris Childs passed away aged 78 in 1975. The local individual authorities could also have more photographs of the actual events in their archives
many thanks
Hi there, I’ve been researching my great grandmother. She lived on Strode Road. She was at no 49 for a long time before the war. However, electoral rolls show her at no 50 after the war with houses 49-53 and 30-40 gone. On old satellite images we can see the gaps in the houses. The obvious assumption is that they were bombed but struggling to find any information. Do you have any information?
Hi, wondering if you could tell me what happened to Rock Avenue Fulham? My Nan lived there as a child, and I cannot find it on Google maps . Many thanks. She lived at no 13! Would love to see a photo or see the area she grew up.
Julie
One of our regular contributors posted this answer to a sinmilar question last year.
Mark Foulsham says:
11 November, 2019 at 11:09 pm
Melanie,
Rock Avenue, along with Heckfield Place, Walham Avenue and Lodge Avenue were part of the area known as ‘The Avenues’ that ran along the Fulham Road in what is now, primarily, the Lancaster Court Estate. The houses were considered slums so, in 1937, Fulham Borough Council decided they should be compulsorily purchased, demolished and the area redeveloped. Unfortunately, the Second World War spoiled that plan and nothing happened until after the war ended.
Many of the near 1500 inhabitants of the Avenues were rehoused in Fulham Court.
This link to National Library of Scotland shows a map of the period
Photos are probably only available from the archive at Hammersmith Library on a monday or tuesday or by email to archives@lbhf.gov.uk. There will be asmall charge.
Good luck
I have a relative at 13 Rock Avenue too, Last known date 1898.
My great great aunt had a hardware shop Blythe Road selling paraffIn /oil my elderly uncle called it the oil shop. They lived opposite the shop along Blythe Rd, Her surname was Lewis . He calmed the shop Lewis”s Would be approx 1940’s maybe earlier or a bit later .Sorry I have very limited info as only have 1 relatIve alive from that era would love to know more as I’ve looked online and can find no info
Thanks
My 2nd great grandfather Jesse Lambert was an oilman and lived, 23 Kingston Terrace, Blythe Road, Hammersmith in 1887. Maybe he traded with your relatives?
Looking for Graham Sunley
Can anyone help me. I’m trying to trace Graham Sunley, I use to Know him late 70’s early 80’s, in the Fulham/Hammersmith area. He use to work for my late father-in-law, I have something my father-in-law has left him, if anyone knows his whereabouts, could you please leave a message on my email and tell me what Grahams profession is so I know we’re have the right Graham Sunley he is a yorkshiremen.
Thanks D
Hiya I am just wondering about Stanley Road in Fulham and where it was as I cannot seem to find it. I have a few relatives that seemed to switch houses in the 1890s which makes me think it may have been lodging houses. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards Ms Stammers
Hi a quick check of old to new names shows it is now Michael Road see
https://www.google.com/search?q=michael+road+sw6&rlz=1C1EODB_enGB514GB521&oq=Michael+Road&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l7.2432j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
For further information LBHF Archives at Hammersmith Library is the best shot. Visit on a Monday or Tuesday when the archivist is there or email archives@lbhf.gov.uk.
Good luck with your search.
Hello, Keelie.
Stanley Road was renamed Michael Road in 1938.
My Dad was born in 72, Stanley Road in 1919. My Granddad, Nan and 5 kids were living in two rooms there. I’m pretty sure my Dad told me they were multi-occupancy houses for itinerant workers, My Granddad, his father, was a Senior Engineering Overseer on the project to build the second, ‘B’, Fulham Power Station. When Stanley Road became Michael Road the family moved to Fulham Court. The ‘B’ power station was finished in 1936 so, presumably the Stanley Road site was no longer needed for its original purpose and the power station site was expanded.
Yes St Augustines Church was Bombed in WW2 it is now a block of flats
Was it a Catholic church? St Augustine’s is where my grandmother and her siblings were baptised.
From my grandmother’s family research 1890 onwards I learned that there were only two Catholic Churches in Fulham area. St. Thomas’ Rylston Road area and St. Joseph’s in Brook Green.
In St. Thomas they have, in a cupboard, huge record books. On a visit to England I was lucky enough to bump into a Father outside the church. He kindly looked for my grandmother and photocopied her baptism certificate. It meant so much to all the family as she was brought up in a convent orphanage, only one known relative killed in WW1.
It was a C of E church and was our playground as a bomb site as kids in the early 1950s lived in Hartopp Avenue.
Hello Folks, Are there any pictures of the Coronation 1953 street party for Musard Road, Fulham. Thanks
Hi
As with your earlier query please visit or email LBHF Archives in Hammersmith Library on a Monday or Tuesday ( archives@lbhf.gov.uk ) they have a collection of photographs and press cuttings for most streets although not every event was captured.
Are there any photographs of the Mission church, that was at the corner of Moylan Rd, at the junction of Lillie Road, right opposite Sir John Lillie Primary School. I’m sure it was bombed during the war.
Bombsight – http://bombsight.org/#16/51.4832/-0.2103 confirms there were bombs in this area.
The quickest route for both detail and any possible photographs is to visit the LBHF archives in Hammersmith Library on a Monday or Tuesday or by email to archives@lbhf.gov.uk. If you are in the east of London then a visit to the London Metropolitan Aarchive would also provide detail of bombing. Their holdings are catalogued online – https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/Pages/default.aspx
Hello!
I am currently researching my family tree and am trying to find the father of my great grandmother, Hilda Alice Hunt who was born in 1893. Her mother’s name was Ann Elizabeth Hunt. There is no father named on her birth certificate but her place of birth does appear: 32 Vanston Place, Fulham.
An internet search has showed me this is now a Mediterranean restaurant but I have been unable to find any historical information on the building or its residents.
I know that Ann lived in various parts of London working as a domestic servant in the years before she had her daughter and would like to find out more about the history of the building.
I’d be very grateful for any information or advice you could give to help me with my research.
Amanda
In 1891 and 1895 the property was listed as a dwelling house with John Walker on the electoral register.
Looking in the LBHF photo archive for Vanston Place I found a couple of pictures of the building showing a shop front Walker’s Fisheries with 2 floors above. Suggest you visit on a Monday or Tuesday the LBHF archive at Hammersmith Library or email archives@lbhf.gov.uk Quoting reference F918.5VAN. There will also be directories and maps you can look at.
Hope this helps.
Thank you so much for this!
I don’t live anywhere near Fulham so making a trip down there will be tricky but I will try emailing the library as you suggested.
Dear Sir/Madam,
I would like to know if house at 63 Chesson Street today is the same house as the one at 63 Chesson Street in 1896? As I am aware that house numbering sometimes do change over the years. Are there any resources at the H&F Library regarding 63 Chesson Road over the years going back to the 1890’s?
Thanks,
Ian
Hi
I was wondering if anyone can help. I’m looking for any information on Alice James formerly Pinion. She was killed on 10 May 1941 during the blitz aged 36. I believe she was living at 10 Dimsdale Road at the time.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Alice Isobel James is named on the CWGC list of civilian dead for 10 May 1941:
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3128506/james,-alice-isobel/
My son is buying 57a Sulgrave Road. Can anyone help us with photo’s, builders plans etc that show the house.We have nothing before 1986 so anything would be useful and the older the better! Thanks!
Hi
If he goes to the LBHF Archives in Hammersmith Library on a Monday or Tuesday he can then see the collection of photographs which cover most streets in the 60s but there may be others too. If you are lucky there may be a drianage plan for any changes at the site. These often have building layouts and detailed drawings. They have to be ordered from storage so would be available the following week.
Census and electoral registers will also show who lived there in the past. Local maps will give an idea of when the roads were laid out for building. The LCC Street index also gives all the information about when the road was approved and any name changes. There may also be aerial photos.
Good luck
The council planning site is always a good place to start.this house and number 59 has a very long history of development as a HMO..the archives should have hard copies of planning decisions, that may predate the web records.
I am looking for information on Star LANE. Was this later Star Road? Records state Fulham Kensington so I am guessing W.14. There was a Star Lane school, Hammersmith Archives apparently have records from 1897. If there are earlier records where would I locate for this school? Thank you.
Star Lane Fulham W14 Star Road @ 1884 yes see Bruce’s lists
Hi I’m trying to trace a record of my great grandmothers death. She was called Catherine Mary Knight (nee Tyler) of 10 Southerton Road Hammersmith, born in 1875. Wondered if anyone can help or direct me?? Thanks
JOHN VINCENT WHITESIDE aka Jack Stephen Whiteside. I am researching the life of a former silent movie actress. I believe that Mr Whiteside, late of Poplar Grove and Askew Crescent could help me. Does anyone recall Mr Whiteside or know how or whether he can be contacted? In 1995 he practised as a homeopath.
I am researching Alice Emma Worby she was a Jobbing Decorator from Wansdworth st. area just like Matilda Worby ?
Dear Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society,
I am trying to do my family tree with very little information, my Grandad Edward James M Simmonds or Burns born 1889 apparently had hotels in Fulham that were bombed in the second world war.
Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards
Julia McKernan
An Edward James Burns lived at 1 Pellant Road according to the 1939-1940 Kellys local directory. and a E.J. Burns and sons were located at 190 and 179 Lillie Road and are listed as furniture dealers..could be useful if one needed to furnish lodgers rooms.
the area around Pellant road i redeveloped with post war high rise blocks..which would rather confirm the bomb statement.
Thank you for that, that helps me greatly.
I am looking to get hold of a copy of the survey of headstones done on St Paul’s Church prior to their clearance for a report I am writing. Do you know where I could get hold of one? A digital copy would be of particular interest.
Many thanks
Mark Gibson
Contact the church in the first instance. I would think that a church faculty would have to be approved as bodies would have to be reburied in East London. The Hammersmith archives should have council deliberations and planning reports as well as minutes. Check National archives and LMA online catalogues as well.
Hi, I’m Charli.
I work for a Hammersmith based company called Wishful Thinking, developing new original musicals.
One of our shows, ‘Tumbledown’ is set in Fulham Court in the 80s and loosely based on both their local band ‘The Faith Brothers’ and the campaign to save the estate from being sold off to the council.
In order for us to gleam the most accurate image we can, of both the residents and the estate itself at the time, would you have access to any anecdotes / news articles / pictures from then (late 70s – 80s), or know where I’d be best to search for them?
Thanks so much!!
Charli.
Search BRITISH Newspapers online under “Fulham Court” there are many articles. You could also check council minutes and planning records for associated material. Archives should have photographs.
Hello- could you please tell me who the Suffragan Bishop of Fulham was in January 1954?
Many thanks and kind regards,
Revd. Trevor Harris
1949 1955 George Ingle Translated to Willesden
Hope this is right place …. do you – Fulham History Society – know anything about Walter Brothers, piano music publishers, etc., (also published an ocarina guide)? From 1916 – 1919 (at least) they were at 897 Fulham Road, SW6. In late 19th century they were at 7&8 Railway Approach, London Bridge. Keen to find music published by them, particularly work composed by Charles Seaton.
I notice you already have the Cordelia waltz, as featured in the Bromley newspaper etc, however if you search “BRITISH library music “ you can access their online catalogue and they have a number of works listed by Victorian songwriter Charles
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Hello,
I was wondering if you might be able to help. My paternal grandmother lived in the Guivers cottages in Fulham or Hammersmith according to the 1911cencus. Do you know where they are or were?
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Thanking you in advance
Kindest regards
Garry
I was given a ‘golden nugget’ by my late mother which apparently was given out on the night either a new ceiling or new dance floor was revelealed in the 1950s at Hammersmith Palais. I would like to try and find out more about it?
I’m trying to find out some information about my grandmother’s mother, Ellen Anne Booker who lived at 10 Linver Road, Parsons Green in 1939. I know nothing about my grandmother’s side of the family and wonder if any of the family are still living in the area! My grandmother was Marian Shipham Booker and her father was William F. Booker. My grandmother married Edwin Chapman. Her brothers and sisters were Florence, Ellen, William, George and Emily. Thanks for any help, Sally
can anyone tell me how to find out value of a property (51 Fulham Broadway, London SW6) in 2005 and 2015?
Normally zoopla or nethouses prices offer an idea.
Try typing in 51 Fulham Broadway in google search as well.
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Can anyone help with a photo or information about 163 Fulham Road in the 1950/60’s. My grandfather Henry Goodwin was shop manager ( and we assume it was at this address) and it could be best described as being a hardware shop selling practically anything ( the Two Ronnies sketch ‘fork handles’ comes to mind). As children my brother and I used to visit our’ Auntie Maggie’ who also helped out in the shop.
It is also the address my mother is registered at on her marriage certificate to our father. Any help greatly appreciated.
As you probably know this is now the OKA store, but it is firmly in Kensington and Chelsea so probably best to contact their Local Studies and Archives. They should have local directories for the period and probably photographs. One of our browsers may know the answer too.
Good luck
I was just wondering who was living in coomer road at the time I lived there. I lived at number 80 from abou 1937 or 8. My parents lived there until it was demolished for Clem
Atlee. They moved from there to William Banfield house Munster road. I am now 86 years old and thinking back to the people who also lived an there at that time. I can recall one or two of them but would like to find out more
The Hammersmith archives will have the voters list covering this period
Hi. My dad James Wyse Polson was born in 1920 in castletown road. Think his mum was called Victoria maud polson. She was apparently a book keeper for an electrical company. Think she was a single mum so dad ended up living with someone else in Brighton. He went to boys brigade in Fulham. Desperate to find out anything. Would anyone k ow where I can find more info. Ruth
For info on eBay item number 293370707697 is an original JULY 1914 FULHAM PARISH MAGAZINE “ALL SAINT’S FULHAM”
Sorry just realised my reply went awol. Thanks for this info.
ASFulham has a good backfire of older magazines, as does the Hammersmith archives, However if anyone has any issues from 1919 to 1923 in another location/library the church would be pleased to hear from you. Thanks
What would have been the nearest laundry to Hatfield Street in 1911. My grandmother, and many of her neigbours worked in a laundry, so assume there was one nearby.
Would it be the Fulham imperial laundry
Hi Susan, I’m not sure where Hatfield Street was but I know growing up in Hartop Avenue Fulham in the 1940-50s there was a Laundry there.
If it is the correct laundry I have pictures of some of the staff I am a great great granddaughter of jessie Stephenson who owned the laundry I think it closed it the late 70
My family lived in various properties in Hatfield Street. What school would have been the closest that my GF would have attended as a young child?
A quick check shows there was a Hatfield Street in Deptford and there is a Hatfield Road in Ealing, just outside our boundary. It is of course possible that names have changed do you have any more detail of where it was? If it is Ealing then the Borough Archives should be able to help with maps and local knowledge. https://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/201244/local_history_centre/2416/local_history_resources/1
Meanwhile someone reading your post may have the answer.
Good luck
Hatfield Road terrace
Hammersmith & Kensington W11 & 10 Latimer Road # 1876 Hatfield Terrace
Hatfield Street was definitely in Fulham. I have a number of census material that shows my family lived in the area.
An electoral listing shows it came under the Margravine Ward (No. 3 Margravine District. My family are shown on page 124 of the 1914 electoral list. Also mentioned on the page is Greyhound Road, where my GGP’s moved to later in life.
Hi
Cannot find on OS maps of the period at Nattional Library of Scotland or in the University of Leicester’s online collection of street directories, so must be small. The area you mention is behind Charing Cross Hospital(Fulham Workhouse) and near Margavine Cemetery. Will have a look when next volunteering at the archive. That will be at least a weeks time but you could write direct to the archivist archives@lbhf.gov.uk and she will get a volunteer to see what there is. It would be useful to give the key names involved and the dates also what you are hoping to find.
Good luck
Hi, I was looking at Christopher Dresser. In 1862 he moved to 2 Myrtle Place on the North End road. I see in an 1860 map online that there was a school just to south and then Ebeneezer Place and chapel. I was wondering if there was any more information on the school.
Try browsing from this collection. This is a later directory and I cannot find the school.
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4/id/6770/rec/4
However if you get no further joy online suggest contact LBHF Archivist at Hammersmith Library on a monday or Tuesday or email archives@lbhf.gov.uk
Good luck
I am looking for information about Charcroft House, Roseford Gardens, Hammersmith, a home for “fallen” Jewish women. The information I am looking for is, residents in or around 1931.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Hi I am researching my family tree through my Great Grand mothers line. She was born Jane Tyson at 14 Fane Street. Her mother was Elizabeth Stanley and her Father Thomas Tyson. He is listed as a costermonger, they then had a shop at 1 Fane Street.
She married Frederick Flint but it appears soon left him for William Mullenger and went on to have three children including my grandmother Freda.
I am interested in Thomas Tyson father Henry, he seems to have been a bit of lad and a prize fighter. Does anyone have knowledge of Tysons in Fulham, Fane Street. They then all seemed to live in various flats Lillie Mansions. Any info would be great.
Hi I am told I am descended from Thomas hearse also known as the gypsy father of London from the potteries in Shepherd’s Bush but I really don’t know I was wondering if any of it was really true
Do you mean Thomas Hearne?
Hello,
I am looking for an advert or artical on The Olde Glasse Shoppe which was at 144 Lillie Road, Fulham SW6 and it was run by my Great grandfarther Augustus Samuel Jacks,
I don’t know the exact date but It would of been around 1905 – 1920
Would be amazing if you found anything on this for me
Kind Regards
Anthony Jacks
A quick look on line at: https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/London_Directories
I found directory for 1919 in the Leicester Uni Collection:
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4/id/28474/rec/7
There was no record for 144. Suggest have a browse earlier.
Also LBHF Archives have some photos and old directories that would be worth a search if you are local otherwise contact the archivist at archives@lbhf.gov.uk . Its possible there could be entries in the electoral register but you have probably already searched Ancestry of Find My Past, one of which should be in yor local library.
Good luck
I’m based in Inverness and not as mobile as I would like to be. I’ve been trying to build up a picture of a Jamaica-born Scot named John Hoyes (1806-1885), of Forres descent, and have found him associated with a kinship group including Edward Harwood among others (a relation of Hoyes’s wife, Julia Caroline Blair nee Blake, apparently of a Galway ascendancy family, the Blakes of Belmont, but apparently first resident in Somerset) concerned with the Bird’s estate in Fulham at the end of the 1850s. I’d be grateful for any sort of information about this, especially Edward Harwood himself. It would appear some sort of Trust was involved, and there were Chancery issues with land tenure, judging by Gazette advertisements of the time, but there appears to be very little publicly accessible information.
Hi Jim, I come from the Sands End area of South Fulham and recall the Harwood Road that ran from the New Kings Road to Fulham Broadway. I do not know anything about this road name but thought it might have a connection with your Edward Harwood.
Hi, I have been trying to research my family that lived on Rock Avenue in 1922. I con not find Rock Avenue now and the family falls off the records for the 1939 census – was Rock Avenue changed its name? Thank you
Melanie,
Rock Avenue, along with Heckfield Place, Walham Avenue and Lodge Avenue were part of the area known as ‘The Avenues’ that ran along the Fulham Road in what is now, primarily, the Lancaster Court Estate. The houses were considered slums so, in 1937, Fulham Borough Council decided they should be compulsorily purchased, demolished and the area redeveloped. Unfortunately, the Second World War spoiled that plan and nothing happened until after the war ended.
Many of the near 1500 inhabitants of the Avenues were rehoused in Fulham Court (built before Lancaster Court) so you might find them living there in the 1939 Census.
Hello – looking for any information on a General Store possibly sited at 54 Estcourt Road, Fulham, owned and run by the Bravo family, 1920-1923
Hi, I think my two aunts had a tobacconist store there, they were Bravos. The whole family was in and around that area.
Looking for a TV interview possibly with Alan wicker about residents of church path /lillie walk fulham being rehoused after the war many of my relatives lived there
Hi I have an antique floor standing woodworking band saw which has ‘lewis&lewis london’ on its frame. I have found out that they were based in Wandsworth Road, Fulham but can find no further information on this item.
Does anyone know if the company still exists under a different name?
Any help would be great.
Thanks, Steve.
My Uncle recently passed away and I am now in possession of some of his items. One of which is a Brown salt glazed flagon with ‘George Pike wine and spirit merchant 98 Borough Fulham and wondered if you knew anything about where it came from. It’s an amazing object and would like to know more about where it would have come from if anyone could help?
Many Thanks
Chris
Hi There is a George Pike at 118 Broughton Road, Fulham on the 1939 Register available on Find My Past website. He was born 1872. Also at same address is Emma C Pike born 1864 and two others who are ‘locked’ information. I hope this is helpful especially as ‘Borough’ could be ‘Broughton’ Road.
Lesley
Hi Chris I think I made a typo on my email address. This one is correct.
Lesley Bairstow
Do you have any information about Hurlingham Lodge when it was used as a hostel for tuberculous patients? It was opened by Lord Woolton in 1946, but disclaimed from the NHS in 1948. It was in use as a TB hostel until at least 1968. Do you know who was running it (? Red Cross) and when it finally closed?
Many thanks,
Veronika Chambers
Hello, I have come across a birth record for Hammersmith in 1981 where the record has a handwritten addition in biro at the bottom of the page. I cannot find any other records that include these people/details. What does it mean when a record is added by hand? Thanks
Good morning,
I have a street plaque from the 1930s (but pre WW2 for sure) with Borough of Hammersmith – Boxmoor street W11.
By any chance do you know where the street ? by The Boxmoor House near Holland Park borough?
Hope you can help ? that would be fantastic.
Best regards
F Blondel
Hi Frederic, just came across your query, and happy to help. My dad grew up on Boxmoor Street before it was demolished (in the sixties) for the new estates. The street was north west of the current Shepherds Bush roundabout. Their house at the end of the street backed onto the railway line.
Correction, north east corner!
Hello,
this is very helpful and very kind of you. It helps me a lot. Really: thank you )))
By any chance, do you know / have a link to a 50s street map ?
Fred
Sorry, I don’t have any old maps.
Surprised to see it was in Hammersmith borough, assumed Notting Dale was Kensington. Let me know if you need any more info.
John
Good evening
if you use http://www.maps-of-london.com
you can access to 1940 streets map for whole london and you can select specific areas
can you find boxmoor street ? i can’t ((((
Can’t find on north east of shepherd’s bush roundabout….
It should be on the SW corner of map 63, but the map cuts off! I’ll try to find a map showing Boxmoor – it ran east-west off Norland!
John
John, I think I have found it. I have saved the map. As I cannot send docs from this website, can I send them to you by email ? mine is fred.blondel@orange.fr
Yes please! I’m johncpinder@btinternet.com
Hi,
I’m currently doing some research relating to my great grandmother, Evelyn Emily French 06/05/1886
We know she was given to an orphanage in the Shepherds Bush/Hammersmith area around 1889-1891. We cannot find any records of her and would absolutely love to know more about what happened to her. Can you refer to anyone/organisation where we could search for more information.
Thank you so much for any help you can give us.
Kind regards, Emma
Is she in the 1891 census, born 1886 Kilburn, living in Battersea with widowed father?
Then is she in the 1901 census living in Camberwell with her uncle and aunt, Edward and Eunice Howard?
I’m trying to find information in regard to a Norma Coleman who worked in Hammersmith as a secretary around 1967. Very vague, I know, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Have you got any photograph of William Parnell
House Bagleys Lane SW6.
I Lived at no 89 in the 70s with my parents and wanted to have something to look back on.
Kind Regards
You should email archives@lbhf.gov.uk as they have an extensive collection of photos of the borough.
There will be a small charge and they could email or send hard copy if you explain exactly what you want.
Hi Hameed, Just to let you know there are several Facebook Groups for Fulham who will have photos of what you probably recall as ‘Pineapple Lodge’ in their Files and possibly former residents as members.
Hello
I was wondering how old Pankhurst house on du cane road is w12 0un?
Many thanks
Diaco
I’m researching Fulham Brass Band’s history in preparation for our 125th anniversary next year and am looking for more details about the original band in 1895. We’re led to believe the original band were bricklayers and I’d love to know more about them – unfortunately the local press at the time has limited info on the occupations of members.
Im also trying to track down Anita Brewer who was our first female member in 1958. She was 24 at the time and lived in West Norwood and we’d love to make contact again ignore possible.
If anyone has any information on the history of the band in general that would be great.
Thanks
Dear FHHS
The late sixties photographer, Terence Donovan, had a shop called the Merchant Chandler on the New Kings Road. I am trying to find out which door number it was.
Yours sincerely
Lisa Wood
Post Office Kellys London should have a listing for the Merchant Chandler. I think it was round about number 72 New Kings Road. Old voting lists will have the residents names if Terence lived above the shop . The present No 72 has a wire frame work in front of the windows on the upper floor, this may have bee where the MC hung its baskets from
It was definitely no 72 There is a mention of some items available for sale in the column in anewspaper that can be found online using the British newspaper library.
I wonder if anyone has any information regarding my late Fathers uncle, the Hammersmith born wrestler, Chick ‘Cocky’ Knight, born Arthur Richard George Knight of 10 Southerton Road, London, W6, on 17 February 1903.
It has come to light in research that I am doing for a book on his life (Chick was a bit of a local celebrity) that he rescued 2 people from the Thames off Barnes on afternoon of 15th June 1930 by jumping into the water and pulling them out one at a time.
We have a certificate verifying this incident from the Humane Society and wondered if anyone has any more information/press cutting etc. I have also been in touch with the Mayor and Town Hall.
Hi
Does anyone know about the Lambert family or Lowe who lived in Hammersmith maybe south street in the 1900 -1950 Thank you
I’m researching the architect Randall Wells who lived at 52 Upper Mall between 1927 and 1942. Also his daughter known as Rosebud or Crystal (1917-1941). She had married Hamilton Johnston (b.1915) who lived on the barge Nell Gwynn moored at Hammersmith, but she was killed in a train accident at Brentwood Essex a few weeks later. He may have lived on the barge into the mid 1950s. Please does anyone have any leads or information on any of them? Many thanks.
HI, Ive recently obtained the title register for 37 Epirus Road, Fulham, where my great grandmother lived with her family for more than ten years. Ive always been puzzled as to how they were able to live there as mother was single parent throughout, no father named on any childrens births, mother gives ‘own means or no occupation’ on all documents and they also change there name at one point. Something is amiss I feel? But anyway, my query relates to a covenant that appears in the sale of the property when my family sell it in 1904. It says ‘ the purchaser will not carry on upon the premises the trade of beer seller, innkeeper or retailer of wines and spirits’. Would this be a normal covenant for that time period or does this suggest that the premises had been used for the sale of alcohol previously?
Any ideas and thoughts welcome
Many thanks Nicki
Hi
With regard to the covenant about beer wines and spirits this is quite common in Victorian deeds, we have had the same in an East London property and in other towns in England. It probably relates to the general crackdown on boozing at that time.
Hi
Looking for any history regarding current Abingdon Road number 3, previous Newland Road, Kensington, W8
This is very definitely in Kensington and Chelsea. Suggest you contact LBKC via
https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/libraries/local-studies-and-archives/local-studies-and-archives.
Good luck
Hi
Looking for any information and/or pictures of Alfred and Elizabeth Jones (also had a son called Alfred) who lived at Greyhound Road Fulham. I believe their Pawnbrokers business was at the same address.
This would have live here between 1890 – 1920’s. Elizabeth dying in 1927 husband and son dying some 10 years earlier.
Any help would be appreciated.
I wonder if any of your members can help, on the marriage certificate for William Ernest Brockway (1913 in Fulham) he resides at Rowton House, Hammersmith and he gives his occupation as an interpreter. Whilst I know Rowton house was at this time a workhouse I presume William was working (and living) there. does anyone have any further information.
Looking for relatives of Martin family who lived at various times(census) at 16, 23 and 31 Sandilands rd, Fulham.
Re above entry – Leonard and Ivy Turner living Gunerstone rd on 1929 register, Ivy Elizabeth (born 1909) maiden name Martin,Any idea how to find out if they had children and when married?
Grateful for any help!
Does anyone remember the off licence in Overstone Road Hammermiyh London W6?
Or do you remember the Stockly family from Hammersmith?
Correction for spelling
STOCKLEY
My ancestors (Boosey) are shown in the 1861 Census as living at No. 11 Back (sic) Gardens (Shepherds Bush) in the district of St Paul’s Hammersmith. I can’t trace this place and in the vicinity are Alfred Row, Wellington Place, Frog Island and a coal wharf as well as the Mail Coach (I presume not the one at 28 Uxbridge Road which was built in 1932). I wonder if these places are off the old Hammersmith Creek now under Furnival Gardens. But this was said to go north as far as King Street whereas Shepherd’s Bush is further north(?). I can’t find any detailed maps of this area. My ancestor was William Boosey, a BRICK LABOURER, and I note a few brickfields on the maps I do have. (The Booseys came up from the Medway where they worked in brick, cement, mud, etc.). I was actually born in Hammersmith Hospital and spent my childhood in Harlesden so we stayed in the same area.
Do anyone remember a shop called the Merchant Chandler, on New King’s Road, near Parsons Green? About early 1970s. It was a hardware shop. I remember it put buckets and baskets in the pavement. Any pics? Thank You.
Hi, my parents owned s. Holland and sons greengrocers on greyhound road and my grandparents before that, name of divine and I wondered if you had any information or photos that could help my research.
Hi, I have recently been talking to my mother about her early days in Hammersmith, she has been telling me how she was evacuated during WW2 to somewhere in Hampshire. She went to Brackenbury Road school and I believe that the children were evacuated by school. I would like to find out more for her as a little walk down memory lane. Is there a national index that I could search?
Regards
Kevin
My father went to Brackenbury Road school but was older than your mother. He was born in 1916. I have written his biography. I have a photo of the school. If you’d like a copy send me your email as I don’t think I can put photos on this page.
Stephen, just seen your note re Brackenbury . My mother was born in 1912 and went to that school. If you can email me a copy photo of the school that would be great. I have been trying to see if the school logbooks and attendence registers for the period 1917-1927 were known to be about somewhere and also leaving certificates.
Thanks
Brian
Have put both parties in touch
National archive has records of Brackenbury school. Check website.
Finding records from the Second World War is complicated because no central government files were kept (no official records were created during the First World War as evacuations were arranged individually by families).
Evacuation plans had been prepared well before the outbreak of the Second World War, and an evacuation policy was soon established by the government. Small scale evacuations of women and children took place at the height of the Munich Crisis in September 1938, but the major evacuation began in September 1939.
The government had planned to evacuate about 3,500,000 people but in fact only 1,500,000 made use of the official scheme. Almost all had been evacuated to the reception areas by the evening of 3 September, a few hours after the official declaration of war.
It may help you with your research if you can find out:
the name of the evacuee’s school
where they were evacuated from and to (see the Appendix at the foot of this guide for a list of evacuation areas)
when they were evacuated
Online records
Search the 1939 Register for England and Wales at Findmypast.co.uk (£) for evacuees and their helpers – search for ‘evacuee’ in the Occupation field. The mass evacuation of children and other vulnerable people took place in early September 1939, before National Registration on 29 September that year. As a result, many evacuees appear in the register.
Individual records will only be open if the person is now deceased, but if the evacuee is still alive they can request a transcript of their own record. See our research guide on the 1939 Register for more information.
There are no lists or registers of evacuees available online.
This is from the National archives website.
My mother was evacuated first to Newbury in Hampshire, before being transferred to Pntypridd in Wales. She and her sister were both evacuated to Newbury, but only my mother was evacuated to Wales, presumably leaving her sister behind at the house in Newbury. They lived in Western Avenue, not far from White City so they would not have gone to Brackenbury Road school.
John Turner says:
14 August, 2019 at 4:54 pm
Hello there,
Many thanks for your help in researching the lady who died at parsons Green Station I will do as you suggest regarding access to the newspaper articles.
I’m trying to find out why she was travelling from her home in Newport, Monmouthshire, with her 12 year old daughter when this happened.
I’ve found that her dead husband’s brother, Jabez Wallis, was a metropolitan police constable living in St Marylebone (from 1911 census age 37), I can’t be sure of his full address.
The police records shows he left the police force age 46,.
“Jabez Wallis, warrant number 80242. Joined on 11 Feb 1895, and left on 8 March 1920. Last posted to T Division as a PC”.
Can you suggest any way of finding out what happened to him after leaving the police force and the tragic event of his sister in law dying at Parsons Green Station?
He died in 1941 in Tonbridge, Kent aged 67.
Again thank you, your help is very much appreciated.
I’m trying trace my great grandparents, john henry Smith married to katie smith, children lillian and charles. Last known address 7 Dalling road in the 1911 cencus. Lillian later married into the Hand family, I cant find anything about her.
was it No 7 Darlan Road Fulham. One side of this road was demolished between 1950’s? to build Lancaster Court. My Nan DaisyTyson neé Harnetty lived on this side and was move into a flat in Darlan Road.
Hi Julie. I am tracing my Family Tree for the Harnetty family maybe we could share notes.
Regards
Debbie Rayner Western Australia
I am looking for help with a place name rather than a specific person. The wife of my 2nd great-uncle is listed as enrolling in Saunders Road School in 1885. Not transcribed in the Ancestry record but found in the image of the handwritten register her and her sister’s home address was Henry Place, Hammersmith.
https://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/Streets/Old_to_New_Abolished_London_Street_Names.htm#H shows that Henry Place was renamed Boxmoor Street before 1912.
All searches for Boxmoor Street, Hammersmith fail to find any records of the place.
Also was known as Beaumont Street W11, so on the borders by North Kensington
Hello Martin,
I too am looking for information about Saunders Road School. A great-grand aunt was enrolled in the school in 1889, and I’d like to understand more about the school. She was not enrolled under her parents’ names so I’m curious to know more about the school.
Thank you.
A single index reference (via FamilySearch.org) for Agnes Newland in the 1881 England & Wales Census: Fulham, London, Middlesex, England, lists her age as 2 years, with the Residence Note: Coomer Rd. Her relationship to the head of household is daughter, but no parent is listed! Do you know what facilities were located on this road at that time that would be housing/caring for a child?
Thank you. -Ron Newland
Hello Ron
1881 Census
Agnes Kate Newland born 1878 Fulham living with parents Charles and Kate and sister Elizabeth.
Need to use Ancestry either by subscription or use at library.
Agnes is also found in the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses.
Can you tell me the name of the family who lived at 5 Southcombe Street, Fulham in 1912 please?
Chris, I believe Southcombe Street may have been known as Devonshire Street at the time of the 1911 Census and at that time, living at number 5 were three families – Stevens, Watson and Rollings.
Chris, I imagine you’re interested in the Watson family members and they were John, his wife Joana , 2 daughters – Winifred and Ellen and a son – David.
I’m interested in speaking to an expert in the history of White City. Is anyone able to help me with this?
regards
Daniel Thornton
You need to try to contact Donald Knight who wrote a book on the White City and is an expert on the subject.
Our Chairman will also be in touch.
I am intetested on information pertaining to a business which produced copper engraving plates which were manufactured by Hughes at 8 Peterborough Ct. Fleet Street London. I am in possession of an engraved currency plate with 4 individual denominations that were engraved for the Lewiston Bank of Pennsylvania USA. The reverse side of the plate is stamped with the Hughes name and address. I have backtracked the production date of the blank plate from between 1825-1838 as it appears that is when the Richard Hughes entity resided at the 8 Peterborough Ct. Fleet St. address in London. Thanks for any information you might be able to provide about this entity.
What if any is the connection with Hammersmith and Fulham? Suggest you contact City if London Libraries
My MD order of the building number 63 67 and 65 I would like to have information About the right of way from the time the building was the building was built if there’s any information about regarding this and other issues on this rebuilding please let me know thank you very much for your information
I am sorry but you haven’t given enough information for anyone to understand your question. However if it concerns rights of way, even historic, you should write to LBHF or ring their planning department on 020 8753 1081
Good luck.
Am looking for info on Ivy Elizabeth Martin, born 1909 in Bristol to Albert Edward Martin and Ellen Abbott Martin. He was in the Royal Navy and his parents lived in Fulham.His father was Phillip Martin, a commissionaire.Albert served in both wars, service number 223669 and received a DSM.The family lived at 23 and 31 Sandilands rd at different times,Ivy was in Bristol in 1911 census then ? what happened as my grandmother went on to live in Wales and had first of another 7 children.No one knows any thing about Ivy.Did find prison entry for her in 1932 ,Holloway for 6/12 for larceny.Also mentioned in Western daily press in 1928.Her address was stated as 16 Sandilands rd, Fulham – same rd as her fathers parents.It has been suggested that on 1939 register she was living as Ivy Turner in Gunerstone rd Fulham with Leonard Turner and working as a waitress.. Any help gratefully received so we can solve this family mystery.
Still hoping for some help in pointing me in the right direction.
Hello Elizabeth
Is your grandmother Ivy Elizabeth Martin?
Ivy Elizabeth Martin
Born 1910 Jan-Feb-Mar Bristol
Do you know Ivy’s birthday, do you have her birth certificate?
Western Daily Press 1928 what is the story, Ivy would be 18
Holloway Prison 1932
Marriage? Do you have certificate?
Death? Do you have certificate?
Ivy Children
Do you have full names, birth dates, birth places, father’s name(s) there may be baptisms with more information, do you have their birth certificates, what is the information on the birth certificates?
When did Ivy’s parents and grandparents die, there are several possibilities in the Fulham and Bristol areas, you would need to order the certificates to know if they are correct certificates as ‘best guesses’, did they die when Ivy was quite young and she either went into a children’s home or they died when she was a young woman?
Where are children in the 1939 national register?
Ivy Parents
Albert Edward Martin and Ellen Abbot Payne marry in 1909 Bristol
Albert Edward Martin, found in 1911 census on boat Sapphire in Devon as seaman, looks like died Bristol 1945, can you use Albert’s maritime records to see if he was posted to Wales?
Ellen/Nellie Martin, found in 1911 census in Bristol as Nellie with Ivy, Nellie being the Irish nickname for Ellen, when did Ellen/Nellie die?
Ivy Paternal Grandparents
Phillip Martin, commissionaire, looks like died 1930 Fulham
Elizabeth Martin, looks like died 1935 Fulham
Living in Fulham 1911
Ivy Maternal Grandparents
James John Payne, seaman, death date unknown but wife is a widow by 1901
Emily Mary Payne, 1901 census Emily is a widow living in Bristol, looks like died in 1905 Bristol
Ivy Elizabeth Turner in the 1939 national register was born 13 December 1909 so may not be her, do you know Ivy’s birthday? Could be using a false birthday or mistakes were made with birthdays.
Where are her children? Can you find her children in the 1939 national register?
As not limited just to Fulham, the WDYTYA forum could also help
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/
Hello Elizabeth
On reflection, there are 42 days to register a birth, so Ivy Elizabeth Turner could be her.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Register_Office_for_England_and_Wales
Do you know anymore about Leonard H Turner?
Thank you so much.
Ivy is not my grandmother, that is Ellen Abbott Hopkins(Payne then Martin). Ivy would have been a half aunt. Ivy was born on 13/12/1909 in Bristol, I have the birth certificate.After 1911 census can find nothing connecting her to my Grandmother Nellie(Ellen).I would like to know what happened to her after that,Nellie went to live in Maesteg,S.Wales with my Grandfather Thomas Hopkins and they had the 1st of 7 children in 1916. My mother was the youngest born in 1931..Nellie eventually married my grandfather in 1946 in Bristol (they were living in Wales at the time) He died in 1948.Everyone assumed that they were married in about 1915.It wasn’t until I started researching the family tree that this secret came out Nobody knew about Ivy or the previous marriage.
I have no marriage or death cert for Albert or Ivy and don’t know dates of either.Western Daily Press in1928 said that the arresting policeman had known Ivy since she was a child and would come to a bad end.She was in Fulham at the time. I have no knowledge of any children Her parents were Albert Edward Martin,26/1/1886 and Ellen Abbott Payne 2/6/1886. I have copy of cert..
On 1939 register Ivy Elizabeth Turner has correct DOB -13/12/09. Can’t find any trace of marriage though..Where did you find Albert’s death?
As you suggested I will contact website.Would really lke to know if she had any children and what happened to her after 1911 as I can’t imagine my grandmother abandoning her child
.
Help please.
I am trying to find if there is any surviving information in local newspapers about the inquest into the death on a train, from Newport in Wales to London, of my wife’s grandmother. We have the following on the death certificate:
Inquest for: Ellen Mary Wallis
Age at death: 54
Date of inquest: 23 August 1926
Date of death: 19 August 1926
Place of death: Parsons Green Railway station
Living at time of death: 39, Capel Street, Newport, Monmouthshire
Informant: Dr. W B Purchase, Deputy Coroner for London, inquest held 23 August 1926
Any help would be appreciated
Thankyou
John Turner
West London Observer for the 27th of August 1926 has a brief account of the incident saying that the lady who was married to a diver was helped off the train at Parsons Green but died before help could be given
Brilliant! Thank you so much.
Is there any way I can get a copy of this?
thank you
John
This article and there may be more items,like a death notice etc In other local newspapers, I have not checked further . They will be available online to print off from the British library newspaper archives . it is worth purchasing a one month subscription to be able to print off and download the item and seeing what else you can find yourself. An unlimited one months sub only costs £12.95.It’s amazing what you can find. Try a simple search before subscribing I think you will be able to
Hello there,
Many thanks for your help in researching the lady who died at parsons Green Station I will do as you suggest regarding access to the newspaper articles.
I’m trying to find out why she was travelling from her home in Newport, Monmouthshire, with her 12 year old daughter when this happened.
I’ve found that her dead husband’s brother, Jabez Wallis, was a metropolitan police constable living in St Marylebone (from 1911 census age 37), I can’t be sure of his full address.
The police records shows he left the police force age 46,.
“Jabez Wallis, warrant number 80242. Joined on 11 Feb 1895, and left on 8 March 1920. Last posted to T Division as a PC”.
Can you suggest any way of finding out what happened to him after leaving the police force and the tragic event of his sister in law dying at Parsons Green Station?
He died in 1941 in Tonbridge, Kent aged 67.
Again thank you, your help is very much appreciated.
In the 1911 Census my great grandfather William Masson was a Landscape Gardener living in Parsons Green Lane Fulham with his family. He was born in Anchterliss, Aberdeenshire in 1855. I hope that you may have a record of where he worked, presumably locally and any other information about him. I live in Melbourne Australia and would be very grateful for your help
Hi
We have no records but the following may help.
Free BMD shows that a William Masson of the right age died in Wandsworth in 1938. This is the next borough south of the Thames. BMD gives the quarter of the year so you could look further in Ancestry to get a date.
If you get a date of death you could search local newspapers online for an obituary.
The next port of call would be an email to our local archives on the offchance there is a record of landscape gardners in Kellys Directory for the prewar period.
Good luck
We have an early gardener in James Lee, who had the Vineyard Nursery in Hammersmith; he died in 1795, but West London Nursery Gardens says that he had a friend in Francis Masson, the first collector sent out by Kew. a portrait of Lee by George Garrard and also Masson were owned by the Lee famiily. the second James Lee was 41 when his father died, and he wrote a letter to Sir James Edward Smith recalling the death of Francis Masson in Canada sent here again by Kew to collect plants, having spent some 25 years in a hot climate for them for a pittance. Masson also gave Lee contacts in South Africa. Could this person have been an earlier relative of yours?
Hi, I have been researching some family history for a friend of mine. His only history of his father in WW2 was that he was in the Auxiliary Fire service.
I have seen the 1939 England and Wales Register on Ancestry that show “Lane, Stanley W.” working as a clerk and listed with 25 other men at Townmead School. All in the AFS. Would they all be living there ? of is it just their “work” address. Also in the end column it has A.F.S.B.302. do you know what that means. Do you know what they refer to, and are there any accessible records of AFC members?
I would be interested to know anything about the Townmear Road School AFC or concerning Mr Lane in WW2.
Than you
Chris Hardy
I believe tha local Archives may have some records but how much detail I am unsure.
Please email archives@lbhf.gov.uk . Perhaps some of our followers have relatives who were in the unit and may know more.
Good luck
Hi Chris, Your Townmead Road school was named Chelsea (Central) Secondary School when I attended it from 1957 to 1962. It had relocated from the original site in Chelsea near Lots Road power station. It may just be that it was used temporarily to house the WWII auxiliary fire service before the ‘new’ school took up residence? It was mainly a compilation of single storey buildings within a perimeter wall on the corner of Townmead Road and Bagleys Lane. It has now been demolished to make way for new residential development. Still remaining is part of the building I knew as the Dining Hall converted to Apartments. This is in Townmead Road itself.
Hello, searching for information about my great grandmother who I believe was at the Convent of the Good Shepherd in Hammersmith as recorded in the 1881 census.Name of Anne or Annie Moroney, b. 1864 or 1865 in Limerick. Age 17 in 1881 census. How might I find more information about this? How she was sent there, when she was able to leave, etc? Thank you. Darla Farmer
Hi
I am researching the Irish photographer WD Hogan. I believe he moved to London and ran a photography business called London Daily Wedding Photo Service from Fulham Palace Road, London. Any information you may have would be greatly appreciated.
See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:W.D._Hogan
Hello, I was wondering if anyone would know if there are any old pictures/photographs of Archer Buildings, which were in Havelock Road, Hammersmith. Havelock Road is now Irving Road and I believe the building known as Grosvenor Court now stands on the site of Archer Buildings. Many thank, Christine
I have forwarded this enquiry to LBHF archivist who will be in touch if they have anything useful.
Hello
Not sure if you can help but my grandad and his brothers owned Simmons waste rubber yard on Chiswick high road, I was just wondering if you had any information on this, or could find out any about it. I know it’s not in Hammersmith but it’s not far and wasn’t sure if your team would know about it
Thanks
James
I am trying to locate Paradise Cottages, Hammersmith, almost certainly in Paradise Row, Hammersmith. Also Paradise Place. All in the 1870s. It is possible that there has been a series of name changes or redevelopment. Any help appreciated.
Paradise row was to be found at the west end of Glenthorne road,running east west it ran behind the Ravenscourt Park underground station connecting to Ravenscourt road. There is a school on the site now.
This map may help.MAP
John
Thank you very much indeed. Most helpful.
“ 20th Century Lives – Gladys and Len Lally, 1914 – 1998 ”
After 6 years, with help from several FHHS members, I have finished the biography of my parents who were brought up in Hammersmith before the war; Carthew Road and St Peter’s Grove. I have had 30 copies printed and one is in the LBHF Archives should anybody want to have a look.
The book describes their Hammersmith lives in some detail from their births in 1914 and 1916 until 1944 when my father was in the army and mother moved out to Eastcote. They went to school at Brackenbury Road, Wesken Central and St Peter’s. Their main churches were the South Street Mission and Albion Chapel. The book describes their home lives, leisure, holidays, careers and the war in Hammersmith.
The book is in a large hardback format with 400 pages and over 300 illustrations. It describes the lives of two Hammersmith people for 30 years. From humble beginnings they went on to achieve great things. If you’re in Hammersmith Library or Archives, do ask to see it.
Hello. I’m trying to trace records for Robert John Fryer, born July 28, 1947 to John
Henry Fryer and Lily Rosemary Weston who lived at 26 Ifield Road, SW10. I believe he died in the Chelsea area in the 1960s but I can’t find a death record. I was told he was found dead outside Chelsea football ground. Any help would be much appreciated!
Hello Sarah
1947 birth registration comes up
1966 marriage to Linda Kartrieber
1966-69/up to 2005 death nothing, very odd, ask the cemetery office, ask the football ground, nothing in the papers
Hi,
I wonder if you could help me trace any information regarding my gt,gt aunt. Her name was Rebecca Bustard (born 1879). She also went by the name of Rissie. She married an Austrian man named Jean Muller.I believe he was a hairdresser. She moved between Paris,London and Glasgow.They were married at the registers office in Fulham on 19th Oct 1907 and their address at the time was 23 Raleigh Road. The witnesses on their wedding certificate were Llew. Prichard and A.G Tiley.
She mentions in a Glasgow poor house document that she “worked as a sewing maid with Surollis or Surollio(?) in Good Street,London.” Do you know what this work place could be?
I’d really appreciate any help with this.
Thanks so much!
Lynne Bustard.
Could be Goodge Street. In Scotland they may have recorded it as Good Street. GOODGE
Thanks for this information! I’ll do some searching for Goodge St.
Lynne. 😀
Hello Lynne
The only information have been able to find is:
1901 WORKHOUSE
Name: Lilli Surelio born 1860
Record Type: Admission and Discharge
Admission Date: 11 Jan 1901
Admission Place: Holborn
Discharge Date: 12 Jan 1901
Discharge Place: Holborn
Name: Lillie Surelie born 1859
Record Type: Admission and Discharge
Admission Date: 12 Jan 1901
Admission Place: Holborn
Discharge Date: 21 Jan 1901
Discharge Place: Holborn
LADY’S MAID
Includes sewing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady%27s_maid
1907 MARRIAGE
Fulham marriage
Was anyone else living with Jean and Rissie at Rayleigh Road
1910 WORKHOUSE
Name: Henry Surillo born 1857
Record Type: Discharge
Discharge Date: 11 Mar 1910
Discharge Place: Westminster
1915 WORKHOUSE
Name: Rissie Muller born 1880
Record Type: Discharged To Infirmary
Discharge Date: 18 Feb 1915
Discharge Place: Kensington and Chelsea
Thanks so much for this information Lorraine! It’s really helpful. I always presumed Surollio was a place rather than an employers name but that totally makes sense. I don’t know if anyone else was living with them at Raleigh Road.
Thanks again!
Lynne. 😀
Pleasure Lynne
…and guess what, just realised Goodge Street is also in Holborn, Westminster area (same as workhouse records)
Goodge Street
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Goodge+St,+Fitzrovia,+London/@51.5195862,-0.1373853,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x48761b2bf7599739:0x95d153cfb299c76f!8m2!3d51.5195829!4d-0.1351966
Tried finding Henry and Lili in other documents but no joy, so this forum could help you next
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/
Hello Lynne
Lilli is not a woman but a man Gilli Surelis with further workhouse records that match ‘Lilli’s’
So was Rissie working as a sewing maid for a tailors in Goodge Street, what date would that be, what is the date/details of the Glasgow workhouse document. If you have a date could then try to find them in the Trade Directories. Such unusual names, not coming up on any other documents, aaaggghhh!
https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/93629-SEWING-EMPLOYER-GOODGE-STREET-LONDON?p=672411#post672411
Dear Fulham and Hammersmith Historical Society,
I am trying to do my family tree with very little information, my Grandad Edward James M Simmonds or Burns born 1889 apparently had hotels in Fulham that were bombed in the second world war.
Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards
Julia McKernan
Hi Kim, Since i first posted that query I have found out quite a lot and traced a few relatives. My dad lived at 100 Rayleigh road, now Lakeside road until about 1930 when his mum an 3 siblings moved to Surrey leaving him behind in a home.I still haven’t found out why. Who was your grandfather?. There was George,James,Edward, Ernest, Arthur and 2 half brothers born in Surrey Peter and Walter.
Hello Kay
My great-grandmother had 7 children: 2 were already grown up, 2 old enough to stay at home with dad, 2 not old enough to stay at home with dad, 1 toddler who went with mum when she left home
The two adult siblings tried taking in the two younger boys but couldn’t because of affecting their work, like it affected their dad’s work, so they were put into care, they came home when they were older but were very badly affected by the experience their whole lives, low self-esteem, although they said they had enough food, clothes, beds and schooling while there
Do you know which home to contact where your dad stayed to ask the reason why he alone was left there
The Sisters Of Nazareth nuns in the Brecons were kind, as the Hammersmith nuns must have been, terrible reports at other orphanages
http://www.formerchildrenshomes.org.uk/nazareth_house.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Nazareth
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/apr/12/religion.childprotection
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/HammersmithNH/
Hi Kim, Since i first posted that query I have found out quite a lot and traced a few relatives. My dad lived at 100 Rayleigh road, now Lakeside road until about 1930 when his mum an 3 siblings moved to Surrey leaving him behind in a home.I still haven’t found out why. Who was your grandfather?. There was George,James,Edward, Ernest, Arthur and 2 half brothers born in Surrey Peter and Walter.
Hello Kay
Are you able to find the children’s home where your father was placed to find out why he alone was left behind.
hello Lorraine, I have only checked with Barnardos so far and they have no records. The relatives I have found have no knowledge of this other than the fact thatpart of the family lived in Surrey and the others in Shepherds Bush.I shall look into the links sent. Thank you
I am hoping someone may be able to help with some advice regarding the St James’ Diocesan Home, 484 Fulham Palace Road, Fulham SW6 ?
I am researching a woman who was there in 1881 (from the census) but can find no other records. I note that there are no children listed on the census yet many of the women may have been pregnant as was the case with the person I am researching.
I can find no record of a birth registration at the GRO or even a baptism. Where would any children have been born and or baptised?
The person I am researching in later censuses has her birth place as Queen Charlottes Hospital (near Euston at the time) which seems quite a distance from the home. Is this likely to be the case?
Many thanks
John Jay
Hello John
Magdalen Homes
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/MH7.shtml
Are you able to give the full names and birth dates of who you are researching to be able to help further
Hi Dieppe Street was demolished in the 1950s
It is a housing estate now in North End Rd W14
I am still trying to find information about the following school shown on the 1841 census. 1841 • School, St. Peter’s Square.Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
The school does not appear to have a name. it is headed by Maria and Susan ANDREWS, schoolmistresses and Maria CAPREN, governess. There are 11 pupils aged between 8 and 15 and two servants. My 3rd Great Aunt, Mary Ann Douglass aged 8 is there in 1841 census. What sort of school was it?
Hello Jennifer
1841 CENSUS
St Peter’s Square
Girls school
Maria CAPREN, governess
Research background of girls studying/boarding there
1851 CENSUS
http://www.clairegrey.co.uk/hogg_dearie_children/eliz_hogg/agnes_rough/agnes_hogg.html
36 St Peter’s Square
Girl’s School
Agnes Laurie Rough nee Hogg schoolmistress
Research background of girls studying/boarding there
1871 CENSUS
Miss Alice Fairman
18 St Peter’s Square
Mother Harriet Fairman involved in education
1881 CENSUS
1884 WEST LONDON OBSERVER
Miss Alice Fairman
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/18840112/009/0001
36 St Peter’s Square
Professional Vocalist
1891 WEST LONDON OBSERVER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/18910117/026/0002
36 St Peter’s Square
Girl’s School
Misses Barrett
Thank you for the above information.Mary Douglass was from Bethnal Green and her father was a silk weaver so it is a mystery to how she came to be at the school in 1841
I believe evacuation of children during WWII was by school. I would like to know where Coverdale Road School and Godolphin & Latimer School were evacuated to. Are there any online records by name of evacuees?
My cousin was at Godolphin & Latymer and refused to go when the school was evacuated. She stayed at home and gave up her education which she regretted greatly in later life. She could have helped you but died only a few weeks ago. But her daughter has done a bit of research and says they went to Windsor and then Newbury. There is an active Old Dolphins Association with extensive archives and I’m sure they would be pleased to help with more detail. https://www.godolphinandlatymer.com/development/old-dolphins
This is helpful information. Thank you for taking time to respond. It’s much appreciated.
I have an obituary that gives more details. I can’t attach it so if you give me your email I’ll send it to you. Send it to ‘ stephen at lally dot org dot uk ‘
Hello Kay Arnold
Please contact local archives
Please contact national archives
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/evacuees/
Please contact the school directly just celebrated 100 years history
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/articles/news/2016/07/school-celebrates-100-years-learning-victorian-themed-fair
I am trying to find any information about my grandmother ‘Alice Rose Green’ (or Rose Alice Green), born February 1907 in Fulham.
She married my grandfather William Butterfield, who was also from Fulham (unsure of the year).
I would like to know who her parents (my great grandparents) were and where she was born and lived, if she had any siblings, as I cannot find any birth information and was told that she was born in Margravine Road, Fulham.. could it be the workhouse?
Thank you so much in advance, this information will be much appreciated.
Yours Sincerely
Amanda
me again…Or she could have been born in February 1908?
the information I have is very limited.
Thanks again.
Amanda
My mother was born in the the workhouse infirmary but her mother was not in the workhouse just turned up heavily pregnant, the address was given as though it was a house no in the road. Apparently this is what happened rather then tell the registra your baby was born in the workhouse onfirmary..
I have a copy of the infirmary log as to her arrival ,condition and leaving 2 weeks later.
Brian
Hello Brian,
Thank you for your response and information.
I wasn’t aware that the address of the workhouse infirmary was used in this way, very helpful.
May I ask what the address states please?
Hello Amanda
With so many possibilities for your grandmother but none of them fitting exactly to her name, you need to order her wedding certificate and death certificate to know who her parents are to then research the next generation back. Is the knowledge you know from family stories or from documentation?
1903 BIRTH
Name: William Butterfield
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
1908 BIRTH
Name: Alice Rose Green
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
1908 BIRTH
Name: Lily Alice R Green
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
1908 BAPTISM
Name: Lila Ruth May Alice Green
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 7 Jun/Not her wrong birthday
Baptism Date: 7 Jul 1908
Baptism Place: St John, Worlds End, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Frederick William Green
Mother: Hellen Green
1908 BAPTISM
Name: Kathleen Alice Green
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1908/not her wrong birthday
Baptism Date: 29 Mar 1908
Baptism Place: St Matthew, West Kensington
Father: Charles Francis Green
Mother: Alice Green
1908 BIRTH
Name: Ella Alice Green
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
1909 BAPTISM
Name: Rose Violet Green
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1909/not her wrong birthday
Baptism Date: 28 Jul 1909
Baptism Place: St Peter, Fulham
Father: Alfred Edward Green
Mother: Annie Green
1911 CENSUS
Father John is a green grocer
Name: William Butterfield
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hammersmith
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 7 Orris Mews Beaton Road, Hammersmith
Occupation: SCHOLAR
Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: South Hammersmith
Household Members:
John A Butterfield 29
Caroline Butterfield 27
John Butterfield 10
William Butterfield 8
Caroline Butterfield 6
1911 CENSUS
Name: Alice Green
Age in 1911: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1907
Relation to Head: Child
Birth Place: Hammersmith
Civil Parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 11 Hilmer Street, West Kensington
Registration district: Fulham
Household Members:
William Green 65
Hannah Green 22 daughter
Alice Green 4 child / why?
Catherine Green 0 granddaughter
1928 MARRIAGE
Order marriage certificate for her family
Name: William Butterfield
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: London
Spouse: Alice Rose Green
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Name: William Butterfield Senior
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1902
Residence Year: 1939
Residence Place: Hammersmith, London, England
Occupation: Horse Driver (Coal )
Inferred Spouse: Rose Butterfield 22 February 1908
Inferred Children: John Butterfield
1974 DEATH
Name: William Butterfield
Death Age: 71
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1903
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: Greater London
1975 DEATH
Order death certificate for her family
Name: Alice Rose Butterfield
Death Age: 67
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1908
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: Greater London
Hello Lorraine,
Thank you so much for your response and information.
The information I have is from distant family (so not confirmed) and some information from ancestry, but again, I cannot be sure until I order the certificates you stated.
If you do find any further info, please do let me know.
Amanda
Hello,
I am trying to find out what sort of building existed at 180, Westway, Hammersmith in January 1967.
I believe my grandfather, Richard Andrew Wragg died at this address and that it might have been a nursing home.
Would you know what would be the best way to find out?
I live in Australia so have to search online.
Many thanks,
Carolyn Wragg.
Hello Carolyn
The burial register might say more about the address
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=6377471
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westway_(London)
I think you might have to ask Local Archives
The 1965 London Electoral Register doesn’t have an 180 Westway but if a care home perhaps the residents weren’t able to vote, so weren’t registered, no other houses have lots of residents in case the houses had been re-numbered
Lorraine,
It’s unrelated to this subject because I couldn’t find it anywhere on here but I had a notification that you’d replied to someone about not being able to find Grove Terrace. It was at the Northern End of the Grove House Estate at the West Ken. end of North End Road and would have been near where Edith Road is now.
Thank you Caroline. So was Grove Terrace bombed out during the war or demolished in more modern times.
Found Grove Terrace in the end on Charles Booth survey next to Lawn Terrace.
Having problems too, sometimes can see replies, sometimes can’t.
Just looked up Kellys PO directory for 1967. 180 is a Hammersmith council carehome.
John for FHHS
Hiya Im wondering can anyone help me? Im looking for a Theresa Adams (maiden name). From Fulham lived in Kenyon street.
Thanks
Charlotte
Thank you for your help with this Laundry issue, I really appreciated it and will follow follow this up with the links that you have provided.
My kind regards.
My pleasure!
I have found an article about my Grandfather, who was held on remand in 1916, at 16 years old, I can’t find record of this on national archive or ancestry, any chance anyone can point me in the right direction, his name was Herbert victor feathers, from Hammersmith
Hello
On Ancestry:
1897 Baptism
Grace Theodora Feathers
Sister of Herbert
1900 Birth
Herbert Victor Feathers:
Lambeth
1900 Baptism
Herbert Victor Feathers
Lambeth
Father Alfred Feathers
Mother Sarah Ann Feathers
1901 Census
Bertie FETHERS living in Hammersmtih, Fulham with both parents and six siblings
Father is a stone mason
Daughter Ada works for a tobaccanist
1904 Death
Mother died
1911 Census
Living with sisters Lilian and Grace Feathers in 89 Uxbridge Road, Fulham, Hammersmith, father is working away in Staffordshire
1914-1918
Herbert Victor Feathers
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Duke of Cambridge’s Own (Middlesex) Regiment
Regimental Number: L/19214
Previous Units: 205316. 2/2nd Lond. R. Pte
No medals, in a state of desertion
https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/middlesex-regiment-duke-cambridges-own
You could ask the National Army Musuem what this means
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_Regiment
1916 West London Observer
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19160707/030/0002
Youthful warehouse breakers
1938 Death
Father dies in Brentford
1918 PRISONER OF WAR
First name(s) Herbert
Last name Feathers
Event date 25 Mar 1918
Service number 247716
Regiment Middlesex Regiment 2nd
Country Great Britain
Document details Prisoners of the First World War, the International Committee of the Red Cross
Reference numbers PA 25186
Prisoners Of The First World War Herbert Feathers PA 25186
https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/List/3655166/698/25186/
Think cousin of your Herbert as born in 1884
Herbert Feathers, Everington Street, Hammersmith
1901 census father Robert a grocer (has a brother Alfred, the father of your Herbert?), in 1871 census Robert and Alfred together
I know of Robert the grocer, but haven’t come across a Herbert 1884, so will keep looking. The article I came across and that’s referenced above says he was held on remand so was hoping there’d be a trace of him. He deserted in ww1, a short a teenager and changed his name illegally so it’s hard to pin down after the desertion. Thanks for you’re help.
Hi
My pleasure!
Robert Feathers the grocer, son Herbert 1884
Alfred Feathers, son Herbert Victor 1900
I think Robert and Alfred are brothers, found a Robert and Alfred together in 1871, making both Herberts cousins – if Robert and Alfred are brothers, all living in the same area
Herbert Victor’s WWI cards show ‘desertion’.
Do you know what he called himself later on, where he lived, what his job was, marriage, children?
I just can’t find a Herbert 1884, did you find him
On ancestry? The rest fits perfectly, he changed his name to (a super common name, thanks grandad) William Albert archer (still Everyone called him bert) he actually legged it up to Scotland and married, had 3/4 children I believe, then he left his wife for my grandmother, who was 30 years his junior! Margaret McDonald (maiden name wood) she was about 18, and from the Glasgow area, which is why it’s super hard to track him because as you’ll know Scotland lock up there documents for a long time
Hi
The Herbert Feathers in the prisoner of war camp is born 1894 and lives at Everington Street, where Robert Feathers lives – I can’t find Herbert Feathers born 1884 anywhere else either – unless this is your Herbert and has given an older birth date and Robert is family he has chosen to give, Herbert prisoner of war has a January birthday, your Herbert has a January birthday.
Between us we’ve cracked it, Albert feathers must have gone by the name Herbert feathers, it’s what my grandad also changed his middle name to from his first name Herbert, (so I guess it’s was the equivalent of James/Jim, William/billy) Albert birthday matches that of Herbert in the army record, and Alberts father was a grocer. I have a pretty sketchy family, using different names on legal docs lol. My grandad Herberts sisters were apparently on stage in the youth, dancing girls, but couldn’t find any info on that, was there a theatre that was in Hammersmith in the 1900’s?
That’s it well spotted, Albert is born in 1884 on 1911 census and ‘Herbert’ is born January 1884 in prisoner of war records, Albert’s birth is registered,Jan-Feb-Mar Quarter 1884. Our ancestors also changed their names on a regular basis only being able to prove by lots of cross-referencing!
Our ancestors were theatrical also, Edward Leslie Court was living in Lillie Road Fulham in 1901 as a private secretary we think to the Empress Theatre as we later find him working as Chief Of Staff at the London Coliseum.
Theatres In Hammersmith
http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Hammersmith.htm
Theatrical Ancestor Research
http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/AncestorResearch.htm
Theatres In Fulham
http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/FulhamTheatres.htm
http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/EmpressHall.htm
Victoria & Albert Museum/Theatre Collection
https://www.vam.ac.uk/collections/theatre-performance
Contact them and ask if they have information on your theatrical relatives, they had information on our relatives
British Newspaper Archive
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
We found our theatrical relatives in various newspapers
Grace Theodora Feathers born 1896, no dancing 1911
Lilian May Feathers born 1893, no dancing 1911
Elsie Alfreda Feathers born 1891 (named after father Alfred), no dancing 1911
Frances Edith Feathers born 1889, no dancing 1911
Florence May Feathers born 1888, no dancing 1911
Ada Dora Feathers born 1886, no dancing in 1911
Nothing in the newspapers but they could have been using middle names, pet names, stage names, found our ancestors using stage names
We found our theatrical ancestors just by typing their names or with the word ‘theatre’.
West London Observer 1916
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19160707/030/0002
WEDNESDAY — Before Mr. de Grey. YOUTHFUL WAREHOUSE-BREAKERS, Charles Wm. Holloway, 15, cinema attendant, of 79, Willow Vale, Shepherd’s Hush, and Herbert Victor Feathers. 16, errand boy, of 33, Tabor Road, Hammersmith, were charged with being concerned in breaking into a warehouse at 135 The Arches Ravenscourt Park, between Saturday night, the 1st inst., and Sunday morning, the 2nd inst., and stealing a pair of field glasses, a cheque book, and a mackintosh, of the total value of £10, belonging to Mr. A. J. Payne, of A. and W. Payne, motor launch builders. Mr. Payne said the place was safely locked up on Saturday night, and on Sunday evening witness was called to the place, and found it had been broken into. The back door had been forced, and the office was in contusion, the rolltop desk having been broken open and the contents scattered about. The property mentioned in the charge was missing. Det-Sergt. Brown stated that Feathers, when arrested, said, ” We were both there,” and Holloway said, ” We sold the glasses for a shilling.” The witness added that other charges of housebreaking would be brought against the prisoners and his Worship accordingly ordered a remand.
Herbert Victor Feathers case was heard by West London Police Court
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/5d2db9d5-754b-4a70-bd1c-428dc40d24cc
National Archives
Administrative / biographical background:
This court was originally opened in Kensington (1 Church Court) in approximately 1841. It was known as the Kensington Police Court and administered jointly with Wandsworth Police Court. It was moved to Brook Green Lane, Hammersmith in 1843 and became known as the Hammersmith Police Court. In 1859 it moved to the Junction of Vernon Street and Southcombe Street, West Kensington. In 1889 it was administratively separated from Wandsworth and became known as the West London Police Court
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a/A13532670
Records held at London Metropolitan Archives
HM Prison Wormwood Scrubs (informally “The Scrubs”) is a Category B men’s prison located in the Wormwood Scrubs area of the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, in West London, England. The prison is operated by Her Majesty’s Prison Service.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Prison_Wormwood_Scrubs
Write to the Governor to find out where the 1916 archives are stored, but you would need to look at the court case papers first to see if he was sent on remand to the ‘local’ prison HM Wormwood Scrubs
Hi I am hoping u may be able to help in my research of my great grandfather Ralph Pearson. It is my belief from his marriage & death certificate that he was born in Hammersmith in 1849 to a John Pearson & Elizabeth Pearson nee Shelton. I cannot find any immigration records for him but he was married in Australia in 1884 & I have no information prior to that. He is a mystery & I would truly appreciate any help u could offer. In Australia he called his property “Nottingdale” & I think this may be significant. He died in Australia in 1920. Thank u so much Cheers Linda
Hello Linda
Notting Dale is an area in London.
http://hidden-london.com/gazetteer/notting-dale/
https://www.silchesterestate.org.uk/about-us/notting-dale-history/
https://www.theundergroundmap.com/article.html?id=953
https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2017/june/in-notting-dale
Hello Linda
Notting Dale is an area in London.
http://hidden-london.com/gazetteer/notting-dale/
https://www.silchesterestate.org.uk/about-us/notting-dale-history/
https://www.theundergroundmap.com/article.html?id=953
https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2017/june/in-notting-dale
View at Medium.com
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol37/pp340-355
I have been unable to find Ralph Pearson born 1849 Hammersmith with his parents John and Elizabeth, so suggest asking a general family history forum to help alongside FFHS
Rootschat are excellent, there are others also
https://www.rootschat.com/
Did you get my previous similar reply, having problems with my posts.
Thank u so much for getting back to me Lorraine. Sorry I didn’t get your previous similar post. Ralph is our brick wall Cheers Linda
My pleasure Linda
It does seem that some posts are not being saved by the software, I keep my research in Word now just in case for re-posting.
Other times I see other people’s replies, then another times I don’t – can’t be only one having this problem?
Hello Linda
Have looked at Ralph’s Australian marriage certificate and Australian death certificate. The details are so clear – but still Ralph and his parents are not showing up in England, London!
Ralph named his home Notting Dale – that’s Kensington & Chelsea, not Hammersmith & Fulham, so please contact their local archives and local historical group and local family history group
Unfortunately some people’s records disappear for all manner of reasons
Hopefully this thread will also help to solve the mystery!
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815425.new#new
Ralph is found Linda, well done for providing such informative facts and useful information that’s helped crack the case!
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815425.new#new
A baptism for John Ralph Shilton (Shelton) at Hammersmith, 19 Jan 1849, son of John and Elizabeth (maiden name Croucher)
In 1871 census Ralph living with wife Sarah (Coleman who he had married in 1868) in Portland Road, NOTTING DALE!
Thank u so very very much. It is really appreciated. I was so excited to receive the news of finding Ralph, I was shaking. A big thank u to all who helped solve our family brick wall. Cheers Linda
Our pleasure!
The information you have about Ralph, is it just from looking up records or do you have the actual physical records.
Do you have Ralph’s death certificate with extra information, i.e. how long in the colonies
I have his Australian marriage and death certificate. Would love a copy of his birth & marriage certificate in England. How can I get.
Your family member on Ancestry
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/21019175/person/1023983242/story
Only the 1849 baptism comes up, actually born in 1848
It is possible the birth wasn’t registered
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Register_Office_for_England_and_Wales
Can order the 1868 marriage certificate
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
HI Lorraine his death certificate states that he lived in Australian states “between 40 and 50 years Queensland and New South Wales”.
Thank you Linda
Hi Lorraine. I have the physical documents of Ralph in Australia. Eg marriage & death certificas. The roots web site matches my research in Australia to the tee in that married in Deepwater to Eliza aka Seib & marriage registered in Glenn Innes NSW. That his first son William was registered in Tenterfield & second son John registered in Queanbeyan. He also selected blocks of land at Biarra & Coolabunia. Tis his life prior to Australia I have spent years researching to no avail. However if he was born Shelton & not Pearson gives me more research options. Again I can’t thank u
Enough
I posed the question why use Pearson, would it be a family maiden name and Rootschat found a John Shelton getting married to an Elizabeth Pearson in Derbyshire – so is this the answer to the puzzle – on the Ancestry tree Elizabeth is Croucher – are they two different women, Elizabeth Pearson died or the same woman and had a link to Croucher – Ralph is one of the younger children so if Elizabeth Pearson is the ‘first’ wife, presumably he would be the child of the second Elizabeth Croucher? Don’t know? A conundrum, can ask your relative for clues now!
Hello Linda
Birth registration for John Ralph
Why use Pearson
John Ralfe
Shilton
Birth year 1849
Birth quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother’s maiden name Crowcher
District Kensington
Keep an eye on Rootschat, still trying to find information for you and/or sign up to thread for updates like for FHHS
Ancestry Ralph Family Trees
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/780532/person/25124928403/story?ssrc=
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/21019175/person/1023983242/story?ssrc=
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/36046513/person/29782777990/story?ssrc=
Best regards
HI lorraine I cannot find a link to why he Ralph would have changed his name. Just with all the research cannot find anything under Pearson in regards to him or his parents in Middlesex. I so appreciate the ongoing support to help solve our brick wall. I have tried to join the rootschat with no success. Will keep trying & thanks again. Cheers Linda thank u for the links gives me more research items
Hi Linda
There may be no link it may just be a name he chose
but quite often when people changed their names they would use family maiden names or children would be baptised with their father’s name and mother’s maiden name
e.g.
Father Paul Perkins
Mother Maddie Perkins (nee Devlon)
Child Mathew Devlon Perkins
All the best
Hi
I am trying to work out why a 16 year old girl, from a relatively well of Yorkshire family died at 35 Addison Gardens Fulham. Her name was Mary Ann Bertha Ickringill who died on 23 November 1891 of an ulcer of the stomach. Cause of death certified by F A Low MB. Do you have any information about this property and its use in 1891?
Thanking you for your time and in hope of some answers.
Liz Egginton
Hello Liz
This is 35 Addison Gardens
https://www.google.com/maps/place/35+Addison+Gardens,+Hammersmith,+London+W14+0DP/@51.5013976,-0.2166638,3a,75y,124.89h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjdzwoPZsT677gbQRvG9sEg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x48760fc383e230f9:0x376ed0b35b3db6f0!2s35+Addison+Gardens,+Hammersmith,+London+W14+0DP!3b1!8m2!3d51.5013419!4d-0.2164854!3m4!1s0x48760fc383e230f9:0x376ed0b35b3db6f0!8m2!3d51.5013419!4d-0.2164854
In the 1901 census and 1911 census a wealthy stockbroker Magnus Schaap is living there with his family and servants, couldn’t find address in 1891 census or London Electoral Registers, Magnus is living in Paddington in 1891 census
Peptic Ulcer In Infancy & Childhood
Three fatal cases of stomach ulcer 1891
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1517061
Charles Booth
Addison Road, middle class, well to do
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/18/-0.2174/51.5010/100/0?marker=523829.0,179518.0
Could have been severe Crohn’s, could have been perforated ulcer, poor girl, not much could be done then, only 16
Hello
I am looking for any information from anybody who may have known or has connection with John Robert Harvey who ran an antiques company “London and County Antiques” with his partner Jack Tully from 299 Lillie Road Fulham SW6 in the early 1970’s (certainly until 1974).
I would be enormously grateful for any help…
Best Regards
Neil Jones
Hello
I am looking for any information from anybody who may have known or has connection with John Robert Harvey who ran an antiques company “London and County Antiques” with his partner Jack Tully from 299 Lillie Road Fulham SW6 in the early 1970’s (certainly until 1974).
I would be enormously grateful for any help…
Best Regards
Neil Jones
Dear Sir/Madam, I am researching information for one of my brother in laws to give to him on his 80th birthday, later this year, and am hoping you can help with three questions. I believe that my brother in laws Great, Great Grandfather, Edward Maishman {possibly baptised Isaac Edward Jermiah Maishman} married Ann Keilbach at Kensington in the last quarter of 1851. Others believe that they married on the 27th Oct 1851 at Hammersmith Baptist Chapel. I can find no record of the Baptist Chapel marriage and hope that you can help. My second question concerns Ann Keilbach, I believe that she was born to Nathaniel & Pepfepenny Keilbach in 1828/29. Others believe that her father was John Keilbach, they seem to have found this information on the marriage document Again, I can find no original document of an Ann Keilbach born 1828/29 to a father, John, nor can I find an original marriage document for Ann’s marriage to Edward at either Kensington or Hammersmith and again hope you can help. Lastly, Edward Maishman who at one time was a police officer at Millman Row and his wife Ann both appear to have died at exactly the same time and place, 1st quarter 1856 at Kensington. This is out of the ordinary and hopefully you can throw some light on this as well.
Regards. B Ekins
Hello Brian
This link details the family members of Edward Maishman
http://sites.rootsweb.com/~maishman/Stephen1/RR01/RR01_003.htm
1851 CENSUS
Edward Maishman police constable, Millman Row Police Station
1851 OLD BAILEY
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18510303-697
EDWARD MAISHMAN (policeman, V 111.) On 11th Feb., about twenty minutes to five o’clock, the prisoner was given in custody by his brother, for stealing a purse and six sovereigns, belonging to his uncle—be begged his brother not to give him in charge, but to let some one else give him in charge—I took him—he told me he had taken it, and it was a bad job, that he went to Chatham, and it was all taken from him at a house in the Brook, and it had never done him any good.
1851 MARRIAGE
Marries Ann Keilbach, Kensington
Edward’s father is a bookmaker
1852 BIRTH
Son Edward Chelsea
1852 OLD BAILEY
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18521025-1022
EDWARD MAISHMAN (policeman, V 111). I know this shoe belonged to Jones—he was brought into the station on the Saturday previous to the bur-glary—I saw this button, and this patch on it—it hurt his heel, and it is cut down in this part—I am a shoemaker, and I took particular notice of it.
Jones. It is not my shoe. Witness. I have not a shadow of a doubt of it
1854 BIRTH
Son Robert Kensington
1855 DEATH
Son Robert Chelsea
1855 BIRTH
Daughter Anne Maishman, Kensington
1856 BAPTISM
Daughter Anne Fulham
1856 DEATH
Daughter Ann Kensington
1856 CRIMINAL REGISTER
Name: Edward Maishman
Date of Trial: 21 Jan 1856
Trial Year: 1856
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Acquittal
1856 DEATH
You will need to order death certificate to find out more
Name: Edward Maishman
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 82
1861 CENSUS
I believe mother Ann and son Edward are found under Marshman with Ann working as a dressmaker in Chelsea
CHOLERA PANDEMIC
You would need to order the death certificates but as we know there were outbreaks of many diseases during Victorian times particularly in London
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1846%E2%80%931860_cholera_pandemic
Hello Brian
1800s BAPTISM
Ann Keilbach, father John (from marriage certificate)
May not have been baptised
1851 CENSUS
Census done on 30 March
Edward is with other police officers
1851 CENSUS
Census done on 30 March
Ann will be with or without her family, unable to find her or with father John
1851 MARRIAGE
Need to order marriage certificate, getting married 27 October at Hammersmith Baptist Church with father John Keilbach will be found within this document
Name: Edward Maishman
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 3
Page: 427
Records on Page:
Name
Ann Keilbach
West Kensington straddles the border between the boroughs of Hammersmith & Fulham and Kensington & Chelsea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Kensington
1856 BAPTISM
Private baptism
Name: Anne Maishman
Gender: Female
Spouse: Edward Isaac Jeremiah Maishman
Child: Anne Maishman
1856 DEATH
Need to order death certificate
Name: Edward Maishman
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 82
The Potteries and the Bramley Road area and the Rise of the Housing Problem in North Kensington
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol37/pp340-355
1856 DEATH
Need to order death certificate, wife or daughter
Name: Ann Maishman
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 84
Otherwise Rootschat can help
https://www.rootschat.com/
Hello Brian
Keep an eye on this thread, more experienced researchers may come up with something more and you can add information to the thread
Rootschat
Keilbach & Maishman Family – Double Death
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814590.new#new
Hi,
My name is Dan. I’m trying to find where my parents got married in Hammersmith in 1969. I have a photo of them entering the registry office ( i presume). However I cannot match this to buildings now.
I wonder if you could offer any guidance. Has the registry office for marriages changed since 1969. Was it then at the town hall?
The photo shows the edge of the building has thick white bands and then two thin white bands. If anyone is good at building spotting I’d love to hear from them.
Many thanks for your time,
Dan.
Please forward photograph file to history@allsaints-fulham.org.uk.thanks, and will try to sort out venue.
That’s great. Thanks i’ve sent over an email. Hope you get it. Do you know where the registry office was prior to it being in the current town hall in Hammersmith?
Many thanks,
Dan
Unless it has changed in recent years, it is currently opposite the side of the Town Hall. I think that before that it was in Hammersmith Road.
Thanks for the message. Do you know whereabouts on Hammersmith Road it was. Did my email with pictures come through? Thanks, dan.
As far as I remember, it was near Nazareth House and St Paul’s School. I’ll see if my sister remembers. No. I didn’t see the picture.
My sister thinks I might be mistaken about Hammersmith Road. Please can you remind me of the approximate date? I wish I could see the picture.
Back to my original thought that it was in Hammersmith Road!
Extract from a novel Ghost Girl by Lesley Thomson…”Travelling towards the lights on Hammersmith Road, passing the site of the registry office – long gone – where her parents had married in 1966….”
I am trying to find the exact date and possi;le newspaper report of an Australian woman Beverley Dewhurst who drowned, aged 22, in the Thames in 1962 (probably July).
Any in formation greatly appreciated
It might be best to enquire of the Australian High Commision to get a date, you could then search local papers at the relevant borough Archive or the British Library.
Further, I have just checked Free BMD see link which gives the following info:
Deaths Sep 1962
DEWHURST Beverley A. 22 Fulham Vol 5c page 409
So this may give you a starting point for papers. The Sep date is actually the Quarter year so you will have to send for the certificate or sign up for Ancestry or Find My Past. The Hammersmith and Fulham Archive may be able to find more info – email is archives@lbhf.gov.uk . Also just seen your email address is in Aus so physically looking at papers is not an option. Google Ancestry etc to get your local version.
Hello FHHS
My work is constantly disappearing, now not posting and not even saying for review, along with post I was replying to disappearing.
Think software needs reviewing to make most of your fascinating site, like rootschat forum.
Other times gets reviewed and can see, so inconsistent.
Hello FHHS
Not sure if this is the answer to some posts going through and others disappearing – is it because some users no longer belong to the forum? If this is so, makes sense, but annoying as you don’t know who is and who isn’t active when putting a post through? Shame also as the posts bring up amazing local history and family history
Extract from newspaper……We planned to marry. He added that Beverley left the fiat, at Avonmore-road. Fulham. last Saturday morning— to live somewhere else. The coroner’s verdict: Beverley killed herself. a Beverley Dewhurst …
Published: Saturday 04 August 1962
Newspaper: Daily Mirror
County: London, England
Type: Illustrated | Words: 262 | Page: 6 | Tags: none
Thank you
Can anyone help with information on possible links between the Hammersmith workhouse and the cotton mills in Bolton? I am currently researching an ancestor Rose Beard b 1868. Her family were in very straightened circumstances and she appears in the 1881 census in Rumworth Bolton as a cotton mill operative age 14 boarding with a number of other London born girls. There is an Industrial school at Rumworth (Lostock) but this was only for boys in the 1870s. Can anyone point me to some fruitful areas of research to find out how she might have found herself so far away from home?
This is from the Spartacus-educational.com website…see it for full account, but gives a possible indication of what could have happened
Many parents were unwilling to allow their children to work in these new textile factories. To overcome this labour shortage factory owners had to find other ways of obtaining workers. One solution to the problem was to buy children from orphanages and workhouses. The children became known as pauper apprentices. This involved the children signing contracts that virtually made them the property of the factory owner.
John Brown, the author of Robert Blincoe’s Memoir, explained how eighty children were taken from St. Pancras Workhouse: “In the summer of 1799 a rumour circulated that there was going to be an agreement between the church wardens and the overseers of St. Pancras Workhouse and the owner of a great cotton mill, near Nottingham. The children were told that when they arrived at the cotton mill, they would be transformed into ladies and gentlemen: that they would be fed on roast beef and plum pudding, be allowed to ride their masters’ horses, and have silver watches, and plenty of cash in their pockets. In August 1799, eighty boys and girls, who were seven years old, or were considered to be that age, became parish apprentices till they had acquired the age of twenty-one.
Hi historyaschurchfulham
Thanks for this. My ancestor Rose was the middle child of 3. Her mother had died, followed by her father a year later leaving her 20 year old stepmother with 4 children under 12. The stepmother Sarah married the children’s uncle Frederick but they were very poor. Rose ended up in a cotton mill in Bolton so I’m wondering if anyone has any knowledge of the workhouse/guardian arrangements that might have led to her going. This would have been in the 1870s. I appreciate the “buying” of apprentices in the late C18th and early C19th but was this more organised in the 1870s? The family lived between Bradmore Park Rd and Southerton Rd. Does anyone know what jurisdiction they might have fallen within or what authorities might have been involved in sending a young girl away, and indeed what records there might be?
Many Thanks
Joanne,
I don’t know whether this helps at all.
I think Bradmore Park Road and Southerton Road, both W6, were still part of the Parish of Fulham until 1900 when Hammersmith got its first mayor.
) The 1881 Census show a Beard family (Frederick, Sarah, Alice and Florence) at 54, Southerton Road.
2) A Rose Jane M Beard married a Robert McCartney in Bolton, Lancashire in 1889.
3) The 1901 Census shows a Rosey McCartney (born Hammersmith) with a husband Robert McCartney and 5 children (Florence, Rosey, William, Lillian and George) at 21, Ballington Street, Toxteth Park, Lancashire.
4) The 1911 Census shows them (minus Rosey junior) at the same address but Rose senior is shown by that name and not Rosey and her birthplace is showing as Willesden not Hammersmith but there must be a chance that Hammersmith and Willesden came under the same Parish back then.
Hi Mark
Thanks for your help. I am aware of all their movements but I’m keen to find out if there’s any documentary stuff about how Rose,Rosey) came to be in Bolton. For example there is a record of her sister Florence being enrolled in school by Frederick. The older brother became a carpenter like his father and uncle. From the scraps we have I don’t sense they were an uncaring family- just too poor.
If it’s Fulham parish, can anyone point me to the relevant poor law/Guardians records?
Many thanks
Joanne
With regards records check out
London Metropolitan Archives on line catalogue.
level of DescriptionCollectionDate1842-1931
Extent24.4 linear metres
Scope and Content
Records of the Fulham Poor Law Union, 1842-1931; including minutes of meetings of the Boards of Guardians; minutes and reports of various Committees; financial accounts; staff records; correspondence with and orders from Government departments; general correspondence, particularly relating to the Belmont Institution; plans of Fulham Workhouse; contracts; orders of removal to and from other Unions; registers of lunatics; receiving officer’s report on lunatics; registers of Fulham Palace Road Workhouse and Saint Dunstan’s Road Infirmary; registers of apprentices; registers of children in various schools, institutions and children’s homes.
Hello Joanne
Rose Jane Mary Beard an operative at the cotton mills married in 1889 to Robert McCartney a mechanic at the cotton mills who then went onto work as a mechanic for the Tate Sugar Factory
They were both residing at Lostock Junction when they married
In the 1881 census Rose with the other London girls are living in Heatons Houses with a wife and her daughter – Lostock Junction Mills stood on a narrow stretch of land by Heaton Road
Lostock Mills
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lostock_Junction_Mills
Lancashire Mill owners negotiated contracts with London Poor Law Guardians to supply cheap labour/apprentices
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_mill
Could have been an apprentice taken from London workhouse to work in Bolton
https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-07-28/the-mill-the-real-story-of-the-child-slaves-of-the-industrial-revolution/
Lostock Mills
Lancashire Female Cotton Operatives
https://www.jstor.org/stable/591413?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
Lostock Mills
http://bolton.webeden.co.uk/croal/4593472840
London Metropolitan Archives – possible London Poor Law Guardian contracts with Lancashire Mill owners
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/visitor-information/Pages/opening-times.aspx
Bolton Local Archives
http://www.boltonlams.co.uk/archives
Lancashire County Archives
https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/archives-and-record-office/enquiries-and-research/
Hello Joanne
The article on Pauper Apprenticeship explains about children being brought from London to the mills
Hello FHHS,
I wonder if any of your members might be able to help with a query: I’m doing research for a short film about the Llandow Air Disaster of March 1950, in which an Avro Tudor 5 crashed on final approach to RAF Llandow in South Wales with the loss of 80 lives, including the flight engineer, John Alexander Berry, who used to live at 28 Richmond Way, Shepherd’s Bush with his parents. Although it is now a long time ago, I was hoping that there might be relatives or descendants still living in your area who might be prepared to give me more information about him.
Kind regards,
Anthony Hontoir
Downwood Film Productions
All civil and military aircraft accidents are listed with links on Wikipedia sights 1959 commercial on is listed thus, and has an entry for this accident
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft#1950
Hello Mr Hontoir
According to his 1950 London Probate he lived with his wife Peggy Maureen Berry at the address you quoted – can’t find a marriage for them though.
If you know the maiden name of the wife, then you can search for all Berry babies born with the mother’s maiden name – even looking for John Alexander Berry no-one is researching him on Ancestry.
Hello FHHS
I left two messages for Nicola Byrne yesterday
The second shorter message is showing up
The first longer message is not showing up – but had been approved. There was alot of research in that reply, what is happening with that post please
Sorry Lorraine I have been a little behind on moderating, catching up now sorry to all for the inconvenience. Thankyou for your comprehensive response.
No problem – thought it was a glitch with the software and to let you know as soon as possible to get the missing text back.
Hello FHHS
I see my replies are still in preview, please do you know when they will be moderated?
Thank you
Hi just getting a bit worried, is moderating just a little behind or software not working?
Have seen some comments in preview needing to be moderated, some have been moderated, some data has disappeared does this happen when you are looking at?
Thank you
Hello FHHS
Please can you let me know what is going on with my research
Sometimes the post says is being moderated
Sometimes the post goes straight through as moderated
When I go back in:
Sometimes posts are there to see as moderated or unmoderated
Sometimes posts are not there to see moderated or unmoderated
If I have replied several times to a post sometimes all the posts are there
If I have replied several times to a post sometimes non of the posts are there
If I have replied several times to a post sometimes only some of the posts are there
I am now saving my work in Word and checking my research is still on the site, e.g. research for Ben with the Bevans family, two posts there last night and still there this morning
People have helped me with my family history research on other sites, so helping people on this site is my payback, as well as finding interesting information for the area where our ancestors lived.
Is there a problem with the software?
If this is happening to me, is this happening to other users?
My Great Aunt, Henriette Alexandrine Emilie Cooper was killed by enemy action in 1944 at her house at 68 Clifford Road, Hounslow. Does anyone have any information about this event?
DOUBLE FUNERAL There was a double funeral at Heston on Wednesday—of Mrs. Henriette Alexandrine Emilie Cooper, of 68, Clifford Road, Hounslow, who was killed by enemy action in Southern England, and of Mrs. Irene Ethel Jelinska, of 41, North Hyde Lane …
Published: Saturday 22 July 1944
Newspaper: Middlesex Chronicle
County: London, England
Type: Article | Words: 426 | Page: 3 | Tags: non
Hello Claire
Had this reply to which I have thanked the Archivist.
Hounslow Libraries Local Collection includes a simple typescript list of wartime bombing incidents in the borough of Heston and Isleworth between 1940 and 1945. This provides the date and location of the bomb incident and a note of the extent of the property damage it caused, but does not record casualties. However, thanks to your transcribed report from Hounslow’s weekly newspaper; and to our extract copy of the Roll of Honour of Civilian War Dead (1939-45) for the borough of Heston and Isleworth (Imperial/Commonwealth War Graves Commission), I can tell you that Henriette Alexandriene Emilie Cooper and Irene Ethel Jelinska, along with her baby daughter [Zofia Irena Jelinski born Blackpool, Lancashire, mother’s maiden name Lovell], died as a result of the Wilton Road V1 doodlebug/flying bomb incident of 12th July 1944 which damaged 900 homes over the area surrounding the bomb fall site.
Clifford Road and Wilton Road together form an ‘L’, with Clifford Road at the bottom and Wilton Road forming the side arm, just to the north west of Hounslow Barracks, in Hounslow West. Number 68 Clifford Road is very close to the inside angle of the ‘L’.
Our copy of the Register/Roll of Honour of Civilian War Dead for 1939-45 lists both Henriette Cooper and Irene Jelinska in its alphabetical sequence, giving them the same date and place of death. It looks as though Irene Jelinska was visiting, or was present at, the Cooper’s home at the time of the incident.
The Imperial/Commonwealth War Graves Roll of Honour is the only comprehensive listing of civilian fatalities of World War II. In recent years Councillor Sue Sampson and some residents of Isleworth set up a memorial to the civilian war dead of the parish of Isleworth on North Street Green – the site of another V1 flying bomb incident. A memorial book was published in connection with the new memorial stone. But this only covered the civilian dead of Isleworth, whilst Hounslow West is in the former parish of Heston.
James Marshall; Local Studies & Archives Manager
James.Marshall@hounslow.gov.uk
localstudies@hounslow.gov.uk
Dear Lorraine and James,Thank you so much for this. It really means a lot to me and will mean the world to my grandmother who is 97 and is still looking back on those times with many unanswered questions.Very best wishes,Claire
My pleasure!
Hounslow Archives have provided further information, to which I have replied and thanked.
Henriette Cooper has an entry in the Roll of Honour of Civilian War Dead as follows:
Cooper, Henrietta Alexandriene Emilie, age 50; of 68 Clifford Road, Hounslow. Wife of Arthur Cecil Cooper. 12 July 1944, at 68 Clifford Road.
Irene Jelinska is also recorded as having died at 68 Clifford Road on the same date, which would go some way to explaining the double funeral reported in the Chronicle.
This bombing is mentioned in A. R. P. (Civil Defence) in The Borough of Heston & Isleworth 1938-1945 by F. W. Swanwick:
The most serious flying bomb incident was at Wilton Road on the night of 12th July when 11 people were killed and 35 seriously injured. 7 houses were destroyed, 13 others damaged beyond repair and 1,000 others with varying damage of a lesser degree. 19 persons were trapped under debris and our Rescue parties worked for hours to get through the debris and rescued these people. A mobile First Aid Unit with Dr. Curran in charge set up on the spot and attended to many casualties. The Warden and Ambulance Services were also hard at work and help was given by men of the U. S. A. force as well as British Army units and the police. The W. V. S. set up an Enquiry Point and a Mobile Emergency Feeding Unit, which supplied refreshments to all in need. About 70 people were rendered homeless and they were accommodated at the nearest Rest Centre. District Warden R. T. Hamilton was the Incident Officer in charge, assisted by Deputy D. W. Sawyer.
The date and location of the bombing is also confirmed by the Heston and Isleworth bomb damage register.
Adam Grounds | Archives & Local Studies Assistant
http://www.hounslow.gov.uk
Hello Claire
Middlesex Chronicle
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000227/19440722/050/0003
DOUBLE FUNERAL There was a double funeral at Heston on Wednesday—of Mrs. Henriette Alexandrine Emilie Cooper, of 68, Clifford Road, Hounslow, who was killed by enemy action in Southern England, and of Mrs. Irene Ethel Jelinska, of 41, North Hyde Lane, Heston, who lost her life at the same time. Mrs. Jelinska’s husband, Flt.- Lieut. Z.’ Jelinska, of the Polish Air Force, and their baby daughter (Z. I. Jelinska), aged six months, were injured and taken to hospital. Baby Jelinska died on Wednesday. Before her marriage Mrs. Jelinska was a Civil servant, engaged at the Ministry of Health. She was 22 years of age. Mrs. Cooper, 50 •years of age, was the wife of Mr. A. C. Cooper, who in 1939, holding the position of Higher Clerical Officer, Offices of the Cabinet, Committee of Imperial Defence, Economic Advisory Council and Minister for Coordination of Defence, was awarded the M.B.E. in the King’s Birthday Honours. Mr. Cooper , was formerly assistant secretary and chairman of Hounslow West (Heath Ward) Ratepayers Association (Non- Political). The interment of Mrs. Cooper in Heston Churchyard was preceded by a service in Heston Parish Church, Rev. G. Graggs (Vicar) officiating. The organist (Mr. Donoygn Ryan) played ‘‘Ave Maria as the coffin rested in ‘the church and the mourners entered, and after the service the coffin was borne from the church to the strains of Chopin’s Funeral March. The mourners were Mr. A. C. Cooper (husband), Miss J. D. Cooper (daughter), Miss M. A. L. Porel Dagroad (sister), Mrs. A. Spencer (aunt) and Mrs. E. M. Reeves (cousin). Floral tributes were sent by: Husband and daughter: sister and cousin; father-in-law: aunt and cousin; Director and staff of the Central Statistical Office; Mr. and Mrs. Moore and family; Mr. and Mrs. Ashwell and Joyce; Neighbours in Clifford Road; Miss L. McAnearney; Mr. and Mrs. Brett. A Requiem Mass for Mrs. Jelinska was held in the Fathers’ Roman Catholic Church, Heston, and Father T. Tye officiated at the interment -in Heston Churchyard. The mourners were Mrs. E. M. Lovell (mother), Ordinary Seaman G. R. Lovell (brother), Mrs. S. Pritchard (cousin). Flt.-Lt. W. Potocki and Flying Officer S. Tronczinski (representatives of the Polish Air Force), and Mrs. N. Fraser (friend). Senders of floral tributes were: Husband: mother: Aunts Lily and Sis, and cousins Stella and Mabel: C.O. and pilots of a Polish Squadron; Arthur and Daphne Cooper. The arrangements for the double funeral were entrusted to T. H. Sanders and Sons Ltd., Staines Road. The funeral of Baby Jelinska, also at Heston, was on Friday.
1944 BIRTH
Name: Zofia I Jelinski
Registration Date: Jan 1944
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Mother’s Maiden Name: Lovell
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 727
1944 DEATH BABY
Name: Zofia I Jelinska
Death Age: 0
Birth Date: abt 1944
Registration Date: Jul 1944
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 185
Did you get my previous similar post, having problems
So sad, and the poor litt
Both my great grandparents are listed as dying on 22 June 1944 in barking road Canning Town.. does anyone know what happened that day? I know it was ww2 but cannot find information about that day Thursday 22 July e 1944
William and Catherine Winslow
Looking at Bombsight shows a number of bombs mainly HE in 1941, 44 was the V bomb campaign. It is possible they were not in their home when killed. I would try the London Metropolitan Archive. All boroughs have lists of those killed in airraids. You could also look in the local papers if you have the date and can get to LMA or British Library. I’, afraid its way off our patch.
Good luck
Hello Nikki
National Archives, Kew
Bomb Census Survey Records
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/bomb-census-survey-records-1940-1945/
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Catherine Winslow died at Odeon Cinema, civilian casualty
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3106475/winslow,-catherine-ann/
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
William Winslow died at Odeon Cinema, civilian casualty
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3106478/winslow,-william-john-alfred/
The cinema had closed by 1941, why were they there, was it used for other purposes
http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/14789
https://historicengland.org.uk/services-skills/education/educational-images/odeon-cinema-barking-road-east-ham-3704
Odeon bombed twice
https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/80/a2841680.shtml
The Newham Story, might know more about the 1944 bombing or where to get information
http://www.newhamstory.co.uk/index.php?topic=1993.0
Newham Local Archives might know more, looked in the British Newspaper Archives and found nothing, might not have been reported as would affect morale
https://www.newham.gov.uk/Pages/Services/Local-history-and-archives.aspx
Photo, mentions about flying bomb in 1944
https://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/Articles/DidYouKnow30.htm
West Ham United’s Upton Park/Boleyn Ground after it had been hit by a flying bomb in August 1944. On the right is St John’s Church and at the back is the Odeon Cinema in the Barking Road.
World War Two Civilian Deaths
Name: Catherine Ann Winslow
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Death Date: 22 Jun 1944
Death Place: West Ham, Essex, England
Age at Death: 56
Spouse: William John Alfred Winslow
1939 Census
William and Catherine’s daughter, also Catherine is an aluminium drill operator
To moderator, this version is slightly amended to your version
Hello Nikki
National Archives, Kew
Bomb Census Survey Records
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/bomb-census-survey-records-1940-1945/
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Catherine Winslow died at Odeon Cinema, civilian casualty
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3106475/winslow,-catherine-ann/
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
William Winslow died at Odeon Cinema, civilian casualty
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/3106478/winslow,-william-john-alfred/
The cinema had closed by 1941, why were they there, was it used for other purposes
http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/14789
https://historicengland.org.uk/services-skills/education/educational-images/odeon-cinema-barking-road-east-ham-3704
Odeon bombed twice
https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/80/a2841680.shtml
The Newham Story, might know more about the 1944 bombing or where to get information
http://www.newhamstory.co.uk/index.php?topic=1993.0
Newham Local Archives might know more, looked in the British Newspaper Archives and found nothing, might not have been reported as would affect morale
https://www.newham.gov.uk/Pages/Services/Local-history-and-archives.aspx
Photo, mentions about flying bomb in 1944
https://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/Articles/DidYouKnow30.htm
West Ham United’s Upton Park/Boleyn Ground after it had been hit by a flying bomb in August 1944. On the right is St John’s Church and at the back is the Odeon Cinema in the Barking Road.
World War Two Civilian Deaths
https://www.westminster-abbey.org/abbey-commemorations/commemorations/civilian-war-dead-roll-of-honour-1939-1945
Name: Catherine Ann Winslow
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Death Date: 22 Jun 1944
Death Place: West Ham, Essex, England
Age at Death: 56
Spouse: William John Alfred Winslow
Name: William John Alfred Winslow
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Death Date: 22 Jun 1944
Death Place: West Ham, Essex, England
Age at Death: 54
Spouse: Catherine Ann Winslow
1939 Census
William and Catherine’s daughter, also Catherine is an aluminium drill operator
Newham Local Archives is extremely helpful and knowledgeable with a wealth of records, so please email them or go into to see their archives.
Winslows killed at Odeon Cinema 1944, how?
http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/14789
During a run of the programme “Case of the Frightened Lady” starring Marius Goring and “Alias the Deacon” starring Bob Burns, a bomb damaged the Odeon on 2nd October 1940 causing it to close down. It had been open just 15 months. Repairs were carried out and it re-opened on 3rd March 1941 with The Dead End Kids in “Hell’s Kitchen” and Jack Hulbert in “Jack’s the Boy”. Disaster struck again when it was hit by bombing on 11th May 1941. The Odeon never re-opened and had the shortest life of any of the Odeon Theatres, just operating for a total of 17 months.
Cinemas Of Essex book at Newham Local Archives says Odeon reopened for 1944 bombing, could have been bombed inside, trampled inside, bombed outside getting to air raid shelter or in air raid shelter.
Story probably not reported, or covered up, even death certificates not allowed to give true information.
https://www.eastlondonhistory.co.uk/second-world-war-bombing-raid-south-hallsville-school/
Cinema Air Raid Shelter
Catherine and William are also in the West Ham Civilian Casualties Memorial Book.
The ARP Wardens, Air Raid Precautions would have recorded the Odeon bombing in their records at the Newham Local Archives.
The story may have been reported in the Stratford Express (currently not in the British Newspapers Archive) but are found in the Newham Local Archives – but could also not have been reported as LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS
World War Two Sayings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_lips_sink_ships
Stratford & Newham Express
https://www.britishpapers.co.uk/england-london/stratford-newham-express/
https://help-and-advice.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/forums/243704-newspapers-we-should-add-next/suggestions/10090107-stratford-express
Newham Local Archives
https://www.newham.gov.uk/Pages/Services/Local-history-and-archives.aspx
Its next to Chelsea football club 👍
Its a hotel now Tania
Thank you!
Hi there Can anyone remember a little prep school called Heathfield House Preparatory School on the corner of Munster Road and Hestercombe Avenue in Fulham. The headmistress was Miss James and
I was there from 1949 to 1955…anyone else there at that time? My name then was Janet Passman.
Yes indeed! I was there from around 1947-1952. Miss James was also my first piano teacher. WendyPhillips
awlawson@outlook.com (in case reply gets lost!)
Please could you tell me anything about Stamford House, 428 Fulham Road? Does it still exist? Thank you.
Hello Tania
428 Fulham Road still exists, part of La Reserve Hotel, 428 being associated with Howard Carter, Egyptologist.
LA RESERVE HOTEL
http://www.la-reservehotel.co.uk/hotel-directions/
422-428 Fulham Road
Four houses have been converted to make one hotel
1884 MORNING POST – TUESDAY 14 OCTOBER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000174/18841014/003/0008
422 Fulham Road
Morning or daily governess, a lady of experience teaches through English, fluent, music, drawing, and elementary German, moderate terms: address 422 Fulham Road
1887 WEST LONDON OBSERVER – SATURDAY 04 JUNE
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/18870604/011/0002
424 Fulham Road
Moore Park Grammar School, established 1880
1904 WEST LONDON OBSERVER – FRIDAY 08 JULY
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19040708/011/0001
424 Fulham Road
Fulham Grammar School, established 24 years
1944 FULHAM CHRONICLE – FRIDAY 30 JUNE
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001984/19440630/001/0001
424 Fulham Road
WARDEN’S LOSS A native of Tuan. County Galway, Mrs. Celia Maria Gilbert died at her home at 424, Fulham-Road, after a long illness. She was the wife of Mr. Ernest George Gilbert, a well-known Fulham warden. He is the eldest son of the late Sir Alfred Gilbert, the designer of the famous Eros statue in Piccadilly Circus. Mrs. Gilbert was a relative of Mr. John McCormick. the famous singer. A requiem mass at St. Thomas’s Church, Rylston Road, preceded the interment at Fulham Cemetery. Sheen. Father Hanafin officiated. There were numerous floral tributes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCormack_(tenor)
John McCormick was the first artist to record the famous World War I song “It’s a Long Way to Tipperary” in 1914
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaftesbury_Memorial_Fountain
Shaftsbury Memorial Fountain/Eros
1891 ISLINGTON GAZETTE
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000438/18910513/090/0004
426 Fulham Road
A respectable young person wanted, as general servant about 18 from country preferred. Apply at The Hollies 426 Fulham Road
1892 NORFOLK CHRONICLE
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000244/18920507/109/0007
428 Fulham Road
Samuel John Carter, father of Howard Carter Egyptologist, died at Stamford House, 428 Fulham Road
HOWARD CARTER: THE PATH TO TUTANKHAMUN
428 Fulham Road
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=AyK0_weGa20C&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=stamford+house+428+fulham+road&source=bl&ots=AWl4IQgdO1&sig=ACfU3U3rpRg-c8Sw3cc024Ut_R2kBTRuWA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjKsY6mg6XjAhUVUxUIHeXeA4wQ6AEwB3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=stamford%20house%20428%20fulham%20road&f=false
Howard Carter Egyptologist used Stamford House, 428 Fulham Road as a base
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Carter
Brothers William and Vernet and sister Amy Carter also lived at Stamford House, 428 Fulham Road
ENGLISH HERITAGE/BLUE PLAQUES SCHEME
https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/blue-plaques/propose-a-plaque/
Thank you Lorraine for such a detailed reply, very helpful information, really appreciate that you took the time to find this for me.
Best wishes
Tania
Pleasure Tania – it’s amazing what you can ‘dig’ up!
The hotel manager is an absolute delight, I don’t know what you need the information for but have also sent onto him as he explained about the four houses making up the hotel, maybe contact him also?
It’s to do with my research on Howard Carter, I’m going to see if I can find some old photos of the are. Would you know of any books about Fulham or Kensington that would be useful pictorial resources?
Hello Tania, sorry can’t help you there, don’t live in the area just interested in the area.
Hi Tania
Sorry can’t help there ask the library
I am trying to track down a copy of a transcript of Inscriptions made of gravestones in St Paul’s Church, I’m not quite sure of the date this work was done, sometime before the new extension was built. I have used the one in the LBHF archives dating from 1882. I am undertaking research into individuals buried in St Paul’s churchyard between 1828-1854 so any interesting information about Hammersmith at this time would be welcome. There doesn’t seem to have been a local paper at this time.
The Parish registers of St Paul Hammersmith from 1664 -1972 should be available at archives. They have been indexed upto 1837. yes the West London Observer only starts in 1855, so before that you may find some references in London wide publications e.g. Illustrated London news.
I have ancestor’s photos, but no name or age. The photographers were H. Baker 263 Fulham Road, Brompton, and
Gwyn Collier 223 Fulham Road S. W.
I would be very grateful to find out how long these photographers were in the area. It would help with identification, perhaps.
Regards
You would need to check a back file of Kellys Post office london directories. In fact the two premises would be in Kensington and Chelsea,so their local history depts may have more detail anyway about the firm
I am interested if anyone can help me regarding any information about a Marion
Shields /Lothian a Scottish tfemale pianist who played boogie -woogie piano in the 1950’s.
She was my late mother and had connections with the Phil Green Orchestra and Radio Scotland.
Hello Johnny
Sorry nothing on your mother. Maybe she is credited on the recordings?
Phil Green Orchestra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Green_(composer)
http://www.45cat.com/artist/philip-green-and-his-orchestra
https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/philip_green
https://www.discogs.com/artist/1306546-Philip-Green-And-His-Orchestra
Can only suggest contacting Radio Scotland Archives and asking if they have your mother playing/credited?
Hello Inga
CHARLES COLLIER PORTRAITS
Thomas Howe & Prince Safihea/Captain Pritchard
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw159893/Thomas-Howe-Prince-Safihea-Captain-Pritchard?LinkID=mp96892&role=sit&rNo=0
Boy With Crutches
http://www.19thcenturyphotos.com/Boy-with-crutches-122186.htm
Woman Sitting
http://www.maartjedenie.nl/verzameling%20005%20CDV%2002%20-%2003%20clothes%20the%20dress%2002.html
Portrait Of Two Women
https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/126459/portrait-two-women
1859 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000441/18591022/036/0004
NOTICE OF REMOVAL
Mr. GWYN COLLIER, Photographer, RESPECTFULLY announces that he has removed from the King’s Road. to Pelham Nursery, opposite Pelham-Crescent, Fulham-Road
No connection with any other house
1861 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, living in Chelsea
Artist In Photography
1862 MARRIAGE
Charles William Gwyn Collier, Photographer
Father John Collier Gentleman
1867 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001427/18670404/008/0001
GENUINE TURN-OUT (a Bargain).—Well- bred BROWN MARE, six years old, hand?, wonderfully fast, with good action, and requires no whip-perfectly sound— DOG CART PHAETON in good condition, handsome lamps, &c, nearly new harness, saddle and bridle—together or separate. to Mr. Gwyn Collier, 223 Fulham-Road
1869 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001000/18690825/033/0002
MONKEY cheap female wanted or other small foreign animal
G C 223 Fulham Road Brompton
Pet or photographic prop
1871 NEWSPAPER
General servant wanted, about 20 from the country preferred, an easy place, 223 Fulham Road, opposite Consumption Hospital
1871 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001112/18710107/052/0008
PHOTOGRAPHIC PREMISES at Brompton near New Exhibition Ten rooms with studio at low rent
Lease to be sold through a death
Established fifteen years G C 223 Fulham Road
1881 CENSUS
Charles W G Collier, living in Lambeth
Artist In Photography
1891 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, living in Chiswick
Photographer
1901 CENSUS
Charles Collier, living in Fulham
Photographer
1903 DEATH
Charles Collier, died in Fulham
Born 1836
BURKES FAMILY RECORDS
COLLIER FROM PAGE 171
Name: Charles William Gwyn
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1835
Father: William George
Mother: Mary Ann
CHRISTINA COLLIER (GYWN) GREAT-GRANDMOTHER
MARRIED TO GEORGE COLLIER
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw147972/Christiana-Collier-ne-Gwyn?LinkID=mp51023&role=sit&rNo=0
GEORGE COLLIER GREAT-GRANDDAD
MARRIED TO CHRISTINA COLLIER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Collier
Divorced his wife and married again
Maybe Gwyn called his father John when he married so family could not be connected to divorce (and used his other names)
TAKEN FROM LIFE
THE UNSETTLING ART OF DEATH IN PHOTOGRAPHY
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36389581
Hello Inga
Could find no evidence of a H Baker working/living at 263 Fulham Road
1861-1871
I believe H Baker could have been a photographer at 263 Fulham Road between these dates
1871 CENSUS
Edward Bawden is a shop assistant for a jeweler, perhaps a watch maker, goes on to work at 263 Fulham Road between 1881 and 1891
1871-1881
I believe H Baker could have been a photographer at 263 Fulham Road between these dates
1881 CENSUS
Philip Henry Baker living in Chelsea, photographer
1881 CENSUS
Edward Bawden, watchmaker is living at 263 Fulham Road
1891 CENSUS
Edward Bawden, watchmaker is living at 263 Fulham Road
1891 CENSUS
Philip H Baker, living in Fulham
Auxillary Postman & Photographer
1901 CENSUS
Edward Bawden, watchmaker living in Hornsey
H Baker could have been a photographer at 263 Fulham Road
1898 WESTMINSTER RATE BOOKS
Ernest H Baker, 169 Regent Street
Eastman Photographic Materials Coy Ltd
1901 CENSUS
Harold Baker, boarding at St Giles, photographer
1911 CENSUS
Edward Bawden, watchmaker living in Islington
H Baker could have been a photographer at 263 Fulham Road
1911 CENSUS
Harry Baker living in Kingston On Thames
Photographer
1911 CENSUS
Richard Henry Stranger Baker living in Fulham
Photographic Dealers Assistant
COLLIER PHOTOGRAPHS
Thomas Howe & Prince Safihea
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw159893/Thomas-Howe-Prince-Safihea-Captain-Pritchard?LinkID=mp105055&role=art&rNo=0
Woman Sitting
http://www.maartjedenie.nl/verzameling%20005%20CDV%2002%20-%2003%20clothes%20the%20dress%2002.html
Boy With Crutches
http://www.19thcenturyphotos.com/Boy-with-crutches-122186.htm
Portrait Of Two Women
https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/126459/portrait-two-women
1861 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, photographer
Living in Chelsea
1862 MARRIAGE
Charles William Gwyn Collier, photographer
Marries in Fulham to
Harriet Walker
Father John Collier
Charles’ father’s name is William George, did he use John so the congregation are unaware of his great-grandparents George Collier’s & Christina Collier’s divorce
1859 WEST MIDDLESEX ADVERTISER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000441/18591008/032/0004
NOTICE OF REMOVAL. Mr. GWYN COLLIER, Photographer, RESPECTFULLY announces that he has removed from the King’s-Rd. to Pelham Nursery, opposite Pelham-Crescent, Fulham Road. No connexion with any other house.
1867 MORNING ADVERTISER
GENUINE TURN-OUT (a Bargain)—Well- bred BROWN MARE, six years old, wonderfully fast, with good action, and requires no whip-perfectly sound— DOG-CART PHAETON in good condition, handsome lamps, nearly new harness, saddle and bridle—together or separate. to Mr. Gwyn Collier, 223 Fulham-Road.
1869 CLERKENWELL NEWS
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001000/18690825/033/0002
MONKEY (cheap female) wanted, or other small foreign animal. G. C. 223, Fulham-Road. Brompton.
Pet or photographic prop
1870 POST OFFICE DIRECTORY
Name: Gwyn Collier
Residence Date: 1870
Street address: 162 Kings Road, Chelsea SW & 223 Fulham Road SW
Residence Place: London
Occupation: Photographic Artists
1871 DAILY TELEGRAPH & COURIER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001112/18710107/052/0008
PHOTOGRAPHIC PREMISES Brompton, Near New Exhibition. Ten rooms, with studio, at low rent. Lease sold through a death. Established fifteen years – G C,223, Fulham Road.
1871 CLERKENWELL NEWS
GENERAL Servant wanted, about 20; from the country preferred; easy place. 223, Fulham-Road opposite Consumption Hospital.
1871 CENSUS
Unable to find
1881 CENSUS
Charles W G Collier, photographer
Living in Lambeth
1891 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, photographer
Living in Chiswick
1901 CENSUS
Charles Collier, photographer
Living in Fulham
1903 DEATH
Charles Collier
Died Fulham
1903 BURIAL
Gwyn Collier
Buried Kensington
BURKES FAMILY RECORDS
COLLIER FAMILY
Page 174
Charles William Gwyn Collier’s great-grandfather George Collier divorced his first wife Christina Collier
Name: Charles William Gwyn
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1835
Father: William George
Mother: Mary Ann
GREAT-GRANDMOTHER
CHRISTINA COLLIER, MAIDEN NAME GWYN
MARRIED TO GEORGE COLLIER
Christina was divorced by George
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw147972/Christiana-Collier-ne-Gwyn?LinkID=mp51023&role=sit&rNo=0
GREAT-GRANDFATHER
GEORGE COLLIER
MARRIED TO CHRISTINA COLLIER
George divorced Christina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Collier
Did you get my previous similar post, having problems
COLLIER PHOTOGRAPHS
Thomas Howe & Prince Safihea
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw159893/Thomas-Howe-Prince-Safihea-Captain-Pritchard?LinkID=mp105055&role=art&rNo=0
Woman Sitting
http://www.maartjedenie.nl/verzameling%20005%20CDV%2002%20-%2003%20clothes%20the%20dress%2002.html
Boy With Crutches
http://www.19thcenturyphotos.com/Boy-with-crutches-122186.htm
Portrait Of Two Women
https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/126459/portrait-two-women
1861 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, photographer
Living in Chelsea
1862 MARRIAGE
Charles William Gwyn Collier, photographer
Marries in Fulham to
Harriet Walker
Father John Collier
Charles’ father’s name is William George, did he use John so the congregation are unaware of his great-grandparents George Collier’s & Christina Collier’s divorce
1859 WEST MIDDLESEX ADVERTISER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000441/18591008/032/0004
NOTICE OF REMOVAL. Mr. GWYN COLLIER, Photographer, RESPECTFULLY announces that he has removed from the King’s-Rd. to Pelham Nursery, opposite Pelham-Crescent, Fulham Road. No connexion with any other house.
1867 MORNING ADVERTISER
GENUINE TURN-OUT (a Bargain)—Well- bred BROWN MARE, six years old, wonderfully fast, with good action, and requires no whip-perfectly sound— DOG-CART PHAETON in good condition, handsome lamps, nearly new harness, saddle and bridle—together or separate. to Mr. Gwyn Collier, 223 Fulham-Road.
1869 CLERKENWELL NEWS
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001000/18690825/033/0002
MONKEY (cheap female) wanted, or other small foreign animal. G. C. 223, Fulham-Road. Brompton.
Pet or photographic prop
1870 POST OFFICE DIRECTORY
Name: Gwyn Collier
Residence Date: 1870
Street address: 162 Kings Road, Chelsea SW & 223 Fulham Road SW
Residence Place: London
Occupation: Photographic Artists
1871 DAILY TELEGRAPH & COURIER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001112/18710107/052/0008
PHOTOGRAPHIC PREMISES Brompton, Near New Exhibition. Ten rooms, with studio, at low rent. Lease sold through a death. Established fifteen years – G C,223, Fulham Road.
1871 CLERKENWELL NEWS
GENERAL Servant wanted, about 20; from the country preferred; easy place. 223, Fulham-Road opposite Consumption Hospital.
1871 CENSUS
Unable to find
1881 CENSUS
Charles W G Collier, photographer
Living in Lambeth
1891 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, photographer
Living in Chiswick
1901 CENSUS
Charles Collier, photographer
Living in Fulham
1903 DEATH
Charles Collier
Died Fulham
1903 BURIAL
Gwyn Collier
Buried Kensington
BURKES FAMILY RECORDS
COLLIER FAMILY
Page 174
Charles William Gwyn Collier’s great-grandfather George Collier divorced his first wife Christina Collier
Name: Charles William Gwyn
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1835
Father: William George
Mother: Mary Ann
GREAT-GRANDMOTHER
CHRISTINA COLLIER, MAIDEN NAME GWYN
MARRIED TO GEORGE COLLIER
Christina was divorced by George
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw147972/Christiana-Collier-ne-Gwyn?LinkID=mp51023&role=sit&rNo=0
GREAT-GRANDFATHER
GEORGE COLLIER
MARRIED TO CHRISTINA COLLIER
George divorced Christina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Collier
Hello Inga
CHARLES COLLIER PORTRAITS
Thomas Howe & Prince Safihea/Captain Pritchard
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw159893/Thomas-Howe-Prince-Safihea-Captain-Pritchard?LinkID=mp96892&role=sit&rNo=0
Boy With Crutches
http://www.19thcenturyphotos.com/Boy-with-crutches-122186.htm
Woman Sitting
http://www.maartjedenie.nl/verzameling%20005%20CDV%2002%20-%2003%20clothes%20the%20dress%2002.html
Portrait Of Two Women
https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/126459/portrait-two-women
1859 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000441/18591022/036/0004
NOTICE OF REMOVAL
Mr. GWYN COLLIER, Photographer, RESPECTFULLY announces that he has removed from the King’s Road. to Pelham Nursery, opposite Pelham-Crescent, Fulham-Road
No connection with any other house
1861 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, living in Chelsea
Artist In Photography
1862 MARRIAGE
Charles William Gwyn Collier, Photographer
Father John Collier Gentleman
1867 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001427/18670404/008/0001
GENUINE TURN-OUT (a Bargain).—Well- bred BROWN MARE, six years old, hand?, wonderfully fast, with good action, and requires no whip-perfectly sound— DOG CART PHAETON in good condition, handsome lamps, &c, nearly new harness, saddle and bridle—together or separate. to Mr. Gwyn Collier, 223 Fulham-Road
1869 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001000/18690825/033/0002
MONKEY cheap female wanted or other small foreign animal
G C 223 Fulham Road Brompton
Pet or photographic prop
1871 NEWSPAPER
General servant wanted, about 20 from the country preferred, an easy place, 223 Fulham Road, opposite Consumption Hospital
1871 NEWSPAPER
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001112/18710107/052/0008
PHOTOGRAPHIC PREMISES at Brompton near New Exhibition Ten rooms with studio at low rent
Lease to be sold through a death
Established fifteen years G C 223 Fulham Road
1881 CENSUS
Charles W G Collier, living in Lambeth
Artist In Photography
1891 CENSUS
Gwyn Collier, living in Chiswick
Photographer
1901 CENSUS
Charles Collier, living in Fulham
Photographer
1903 DEATH
Charles Collier, died in Fulham
Born 1836
BURKES FAMILY RECORDS
COLLIER FROM PAGE 171
Name: Charles William Gwyn
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1835
Father: William George
Mother: Mary Ann
CHRISTINA COLLIER (GYWN) GREAT-GRANDMOTHER
MARRIED TO GEORGE COLLIER
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw147972/Christiana-Collier-ne-Gwyn?LinkID=mp51023&role=sit&rNo=0
GEORGE COLLIER GREAT-GRANDDAD
MARRIED TO CHRISTINA COLLIER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Collier
Divorced his wife and married again
Maybe Gwyn called his father John when he married so family could not be connected to divorce (and used his other names)
TAKEN FROM LIFE
THE UNSETTLING ART OF DEATH IN PHOTOGRAPHY
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36389581
Does anyone know of a dairy in Goldhawk Road, near the tube station, that closed in the 1970s or 1980s and was replaced by an American-themed pizza restaurant?
Hi,
I am trying to find out the parents of my great grandfather, James Wilson Stanton born 1873. The 1881 census shows him in the Union Workhouse, Hemingford Grey, Cambridgeshire and his birthplace is given as Swavesey, Cambridgeshire. However, I cannot find a record of his birth there. One candidate for his mother s Rachael (Racheal on the census) Stanton born 1846 and she appears to have been an inmate of the Asylum of the Good Shepherd in Fulham in 1861 (too early for James, but could be a sibling). Do you have access to records of children born there? I would also be interested in any photos or drawings of the building. Thank you in advance,
Bev
On the right-hand side of the Fulham Road, which branches off from Queen Street opposite the parish church, stands a large group of brick buildings, designed by Pugin, and known as the Convent of the Good Shepherd and the Asylum for Penitent Women. The site was formerly occupied by Beauchamp Lodge. This charity was commenced in 1841 by some ladies of the Order of the Good Shepherd, who came from Angers, in France, to carry on the work of the reformation of female penitents under the auspices of Dr. Griffiths, then “Vicar-Apostolic of the London District.
A thesis has been written in 1985 and would be available from Brunel UnivCleanliness and Godliness: A sociological study of the Good Shepherd. Full link removed to avoid automatic download but search here –
https://bura.brunel.ac.uk/
Hi Bev
1846 BIRTH
Is Rachel the mother of James Wilson Stanton (please confirm?)
Name: Rachel Stanton
Registration Year: 1846
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Chesterton
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 14
Page: 55
1861 CENSUS
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/MH8.shtml
Asylum Of The Good Shepherd in Fulham for fallen women, Rachel would be 15 by now
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/MH/
Rachael Stanton, born 1846, (born Cambridgeshire please confirm?)
PLEASE GIVE MORE INFORMATION HOW TO CALL HER UP ON THE 1861 CENSUS AS CANNOT TRACE ON ANCESTRY OR FINDMYPAST THANK YOU
1881 CENSUS
Name: James Stanton
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Inmate
Where born: Swavesey, Cambridgeshire
Civil Parish: Hemingford Grey
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Street address: Union Work House
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: St Ives
1894 MARRIAGE
Is James illegitimate, orphaned or abandoned very young as he doesn’t know his father. If James is illegitimate then Wilson could be James’s father’s middle name. If Rachel is James’ mother did she return from Fulham to Cambridgeshire after her ‘punishment’ in the asylum for fallen women, only to become pregnant later in 1873 outside of marriage with James?
Name: James Wilson Stanton
Age: 20
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1874
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1894
Marriage Place: Kettering, St Peter and St Paul, Northamptonshire, England
Spouse: Minnie Beatrice Fleming
1846 BIRTH
Is Rachel the mother of James Wilson Stanton (please confirm?)
Name: Rachel Stanton
Registration Year: 1846
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Chesterton
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 14
Page: 55
1861 CENSUS
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/list/MH8.shtml
Asylum Of The Good Shepherd in Fulham for fallen women, Rachel would be 15 by now
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/MH/
Rachael Stanton, born 1846, born Cambridgeshire (please confirm?)
PLEASE GIVE MORE INFORMATION HOW TO CALL HER UP ON THE 1861 CENSUS AS CANNOT TRACE ON ANCESTRY OR FINDMYPAST THANK YOU
1881 CENSUS
Name: James Stanton
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Inmate
Where born: Swavesey, Cambridgeshire
Civil Parish: Hemingford Grey
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Street address: Union Work House
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: St Ives
1894 MARRIAGE
Is James illegitimate, orphaned or abandoned very young as he doesn’t know his father. If James is illegitimate then Wilson could be James’s father’s middle name. If Rachel is James’ mother did she return from Fulham to Cambridgeshire after her ‘punishment’ in the asylum for fallen women, only to become pregnant later in 1873 outside of marriage with James?
Name: James Wilson Stanton
Age: 20
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1874
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1894
Marriage Place: Kettering, St Peter and St Paul, Northamptonshire, England
Spouse: Minie Beatrice Fleming
Hello my Dad Jim Scribens recently passed away and I’m trying to retrace his footsteps . He grew up in the worlds end Chelsea. He worked in Barbers North end road and lived in Empirus Road for a while. Later he lived in Kenyon Street off Fulham palace road with a women called Teresa Adams. He was also a green grocer by trade he worked in the Clive the veg shop. Does anybody remember my Dad? I would love to find out more. Thanks Charlotte
Hello. I’m after some help with family research if anyone can help. My Great Grandfather grew up at Parsons Green between 1850-1865 (approx), and lived alongside ‘Bevans Inn’ and apparently directly opposite the green. He was raised by his aunt who was a widow (surname Wright – maiden name de Courcy). Does anyone know where ‘Bevans Inn’ may have been? or which schools were in the direct area in 1855-1865? After two decades of extensive searching through census, birth, marriage and death records etc. we’ve never been able to find any record of him, his aunt, his parents or any member of my family. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello Ben
I’ve found the inn!
DUKES HEAD
https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Fulham/DukesHead.shtml
1861 CENSUS
Place: Dukes Head, Pitt Place
Name: John J Bevan
Estimated birth year: 1827
Father: John Jacob Bevan born 1799, died 1847
Mother: Ann Bristow Bevan, born 1799, died 1835
Spouse’s name: Mary Bevan married 1849 Whitechapel, maiden name Lagerbury
Where born: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
1871 CENSUS
Place: Dukes Head, Pitts Place
Name: John Jacob Bevan
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Where Born: Stepney
Spouse: Mary Bevan
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
1887 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
Name: John Jacob Bevan
Year: 1887
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Street address: The Dukes Head, Pitt Place
Can you give your parents names, births
Can you give your grandparents names, births
To help going back to your great-grandfather
What information have you found?
BIRTHS
MARRIAGES
DEATHS
1911 CENSUS
1901 CENSUS
1891 CENSUS
1881 CENSUS
1871 CENSUS
1861 CENSUS
1851 CENSUS
1841 CENSUS
OTHER INFORMATION
What is the full name of your great-grandfather (and if known birth date, where born, marriage, children. occupation, death)
What is the full name of his Aunt Wright, maiden name de Courcy (and if known birth date, where born, marriage, her husband’s name, children, occupation, death)
Where have you got the information that your great-grandfather and his aunt lived at Parsons Green alongside Bevans Inn?
Bevans Inn is The Duke’s Head.
Sorry far too little information for any further help at the moment without fuller information.
Hello Ben
I’ve found her!
1831 BAPTISM
Elizabeth Courcy, Norfolk, Rollesby
Father Thomas
Mother Eliza
184#/185#/186# MARRIAGE
Unable to find marriage to husband Mr Wright
Could be a common law marriage
1854 THE ERA
TRANSFER OF LICENSES
Kensington 25 September
Duke’s Head, Parson’s Green, Richard Robert Gains to John Jacob Bevans
1861 CENSUS
Name: Elizabeth E Wright (maiden name Courcy)
Estimated birth year: 1831
Relation: Widow
Where born: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Occupation: Proprietor Of House
Address: 2 Pitt Place, next to Dukes Head at 1 Pitt Place
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth A Bell 18 Niece Milliner
Eliza Fisher 20 Servant
FULHAM OLD AND NEW
PITTS PLACE NO.1 DUKES HEAD
PITTS PLACE NO.2 ELIZABETH WRIGHT
https://archive.org/stream/b29010433_0002/b29010433_0002_djvu.txt
Strictly speaking, the name Pitt or Pitt’s Place, now numbered with the Pitt or Pitt’s houses in the New King’s Road, was applied to the terrace of old-fashioned Place houses — six in number — standing between Arragon House and Peterborough
Road, namely Belgrave House (No. 6), Sefton House (No. 5), Cradley House (No. 4), Albyn House (No. 3), its nameless neighbour (No. 2), and the corner house, now the
Duke’s Head (No. 1). Sometimes, however, Arragon House and Gosford Lodge were regarded as included under the designation.
The six houses comprising Pitt Place are somewhat older than Arragon House, having been built about 1795. No. 1, Pitt Place, at the north-west corner of Peterborough Road, is now the “ Duke’s Head,” rebuilt in 1893. The original house did not face the
Green, but stood a little way down Peterborough Lane, at the rear of the present house. The original house, which, for convenience sake, we will speak of here, was an old inn, known as the “ Pond Head Ale House,” from the fact that it faced the pond on Parson’s Green. The first we hear of it is in 1714, when Hicks Burroughs sold to Sir Robert Child certain property at Parson’s Green, including “ one cottage known by the sign of the ‘ Pond-
head Alehouse,”’ then in the occupation of John Paine. On the death of Sir Robert the “ Pondhead Alehouse ” went to his brother, Samuel. The sign was changed to the “ Duke’s
Head,” probably about 1802, when the “ Duke’s Head,” near the Laurel Bank House was pulled down. It was a riotous house, frequented chiefly by the gardeners from Rench’s and
Fitch’s nursery. Early in this century a terrible fight occurred at this house, resulting in the deaths of four men. The transfer of the “ Duke’s Head ” from its old premises to its present position took
place on the death of Dr. James Humphrey Keats, which occurred at No. 1, Pitt Place in 1861. Dr. Keats resided at Parson’s Green nearly all his life, the first appearance of his name in the
Rate books being in 1819. Keats was a remarkable character. He used to visit his patients habited in a long, shabby, dark green frock coat with prominent brass buttons. There used to
be a saying in Fulham, in reference to thread-bare clothes, that a person wore Dr. Keats’s livery. Despite his apparent poverty, he used to keep a pack of harriers, which might often have been seen on Parson’s Green, Eelbrook, Wimbledon Common. The houses in Pitt Place, Nos. 1 to 6, are now renumbered 235 to 245 (alternate numbers), New King’s Road.
Hello Ben
I think this may be your missing great-grandfather. Can you let me know please, or if another nephew.
If your great-grandfather, please thank the person in the Rootschat thread below, I have already on our behalf.
1851 CENSUS
Name Elizabeth Wright
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Lynn, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
Household Members:
William Hudson Bell 10 Nephew
Elizabeth Fitzpatrick 26
Rootschat Thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814672.new#new
Hello Ben
1841 CENSUS
Samuel Wright husband of Elizabeth Wright – have a middle name of William to be Eliza Adams wedding witness or Samuel’s brother
Name: Elizabeth Wright
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Where born: Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Shelfanger
Hundred: Diss
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Guiltcross
Sub-registration district: Banham
Household Members: Name
Samuel Wright 29
Elizabeth Wright 24
1850 DEATH
Husband of Elizabeth Wright
Name: Samuel Wright
Registration Year: 1850
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Erpingham
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 13
Page: 79
1850 BURIAL
Husband of Elizabeth Wright
Name: Samuel Wright
Death Age: 38
Record Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1850
Burial Date: 9 Apr 1850
Burial Place: Glanford, Norfolk, England
Parish as it Appears: Glandford
Hello Ben
Please discount Samuel Wright post – Samuel and Elizabeth alive and well together in 1871
Hello Ben
One of the nephews will be your great-grandfather
1841 CENUS
Bell family
Elizabeth Wright’s nephew
One of the nephews will be Ben’s great-grandfather
Name: Thomas Bell
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Civil Parish: Hendon
Hundred: Gore
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Hendon
Household Members: Name:
Thomas Bell 30
Eliza Bell 24
William Bell 1
1851 CENSUS
Bell family
Elizabeth Wright’s nieces and nephews
One of the nephews will be Ben’s great-grandfather
Name: Thomas Bell
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Spouse’s name: Eliza Bell
Where born: Lynn Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Hendon
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Hendon
Household Members: Name
Thomas Bell 44
Eliza Bell 33
Elizabeth Bell 9
Thomas Bell 7
George Bell 6
Henry Bell 4
Emily Bell 9 Mo
1844 BAPTISM
Named after Wright Godparent
Name: George Wright Bell
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Dec 1844
Baptism Place: Hampstead St John, Camden, England
Father: Thomas Hudson Bell
Mother: Eliza Bell
Register Type: Parish Registers
Hi Ben
Please can you still send:-
Mother and father details:
Grandparents details:
to go back to the Bell family – one of the nephews stayed with Widow Elizabeth Wright who lived next to the Dukes Head run by John Bevan or known as ‘Bevans Inn’. The nephew who stayed in the census might not be your great-grandfather, it could be one of the other nephews who stayed in between the censuses.
Did your family call the pub ‘Bevans Inn’ or was that a local name for the pub?
Hello Ben
One more nephew born after his father’s death
1851 DEATH
FATHER OF NEPHEWS
Name: Thomas Bell
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3
Page: 179
1851 BURIAL
FATHER OF NEPHEWS
Name: Thomas Bell
Age: 44
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1807
Death Date: abt 1851
Burial Date: 23 Oct 1851
Burial Place: St Mary, Hendon, Barnet, England
Register Type: Parish Register
1852 BIRTH / BEN POSSIBLE GREAT-GRANDFATHER
Elizabeth Wright Nephew
Name: Frederick Alfred Bell
Registration Year: 1852
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 83
These have been found on Rootschat
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=814672.new#new
Your missing family are found
1841 CENSUS
Name: William Wright
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Camden Town
Household Members:
Elizabeth Wright 28 born out of county
Mary Bell 60 born out of county
Elizabeth Reynolds 23
1849 WILL
William Wright, husband of Elizabeth Wright
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D135789
Will of William Wright, Gentleman of Fulham, Middlesex, 12 December 1849
Will of William Wright of 2 Pitts Place Parsons Green Fulham, 1849
1867 PROBATE
Probate of Elizabeth Emma Wright of Parsons Green, 1867
One of the executors is William Hudson Bell, Inspector of Police
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=wright&yearOfDeath=1867&page=6#calendar
Will need to keep an eye on this thread and Rootschat thread, or post a comment on there
Hi Ben
We would like to know which builder built our terrace of houses in Novello Street Parsons Green. Previously known as Crown street. could it have been Norris and Allen?
My great grandfather was a master signwriter who lived in Fulham for most of his life (he died in 1942). My Dad told me he painted the costermongers’ barrows in the market and was a well known character locally. Are there any books you can recommend that might have pictures of the market in the 1900s-1930s? Apparently, he also painted the scenery for the Wild West Show when it came to Earls Court! His name was John Byrnes.
Grateful for any suggestions for further reading!
Nicola Byrnes
I think you might find the http://www.ArthurLloyd.co.uk theatre website of interest. It says the Empress Hall at Earls Court was closed in 1915 for other purposes, only reopening in the 1930’s
An interesting website, thank you. I don’t think the Wild West Show was at the Empress Hall though.
Hello Nicola
Hope you find these interesting.
We have no evidence of our theatrical relatives who lived in the Fulham/Chelsea/Kensington areas in the 1890’s performing in the Wild West Shows or in Barnum’s Circus – BUT our relative Ruth Thrasher/Ruth Jezard/Ruby Jezard later married to Albert Edward Court Chief Of Staff at the London Coliseum in 1905, performed with Jessie Almer who had been a clown for the Barnum’s Circus (researched on Who Do You Think You Are) but it is highly likely they performed in the Wild West Shows and in Barnum’s Circus. Being a widow Priscilla and her daughters were dressmakers and became rich enough to buy 133 Finborough Road, Kensington in the 1890s possibly by making theatrical costumes and fancy dress costumes for the aristocracy who had many expensive themed balls.
Albert and Ruby lived in Lillie Road, Fulham in the 1901 census and Albert is listed as a secretary (we think secretary at the Empress Theatre, Lillie Road). Ruby/Ruth Jezard had performed in the lavish 1898 and 1899 pantomimes at the Drury Lane Theatre.
The scenery must have been spectacular at these shows and the Wild West Shows!
Perhaps the National Fairground and Circus Archive could give you more information about your relative and his theatrical painting work.
Wild West
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/nfca/researchandarticles/buffalobill
Who Do You Think You Are Jessie Almer
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic12104.html
Who Do You Think You Are Buffalo Bill
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03btlgt
Buffalo Bill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bill
Wild West
https://www.thehistorypress.co.uk/articles/buffalo-bill-s-british-wild-west/
Wild West
https://www.olympiaauctions.com/about-us/press-and-blogs/blog-the-olympia-exhibition-centre-a-history-by-john-culme/
Wild West
http://library.centerofthewest.org/cdm/ref/collection/BBOA/id/9377
Wild West
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/the-collections/Pages/earls-court-and-olympia.aspx
Wild West
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2004665264/
Wild West
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_West_shows
Lorraine, thanks so much for the information!
John’s wife, Margaret Byrnes (nee Bishop) was a ‘showgirl’ according to my Nan, her daughter-in-law, who strongly disapproved of her in-laws, but I have no idea whether she used her real name in the halls/ theatres. I doubt she took part in the Wild West Show; my grandfather, their son, told stories of living with a dwarf troupe when he was a child, whilst his father was doing the scenery. A fascinating area of study.
My pleasure, what a fascinating family, what a fascinating area in Victorian and Edwardian times, the imagination used for their beautiful spectacles – and we have instead the O2 Millennium Dome
Victoria & Albert Museum, Theatre & Performance Collections could have more on your family or generally what they would have been doing in the theatrical world
https://www.vam.ac.uk/collections/theatre-performance
British Newspaper Archive – Wild West Show
Lots of articles
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=%22wild%20west%20show%22&phrasesearch=wild%20west%20show&retrievecountrycounts=false&sortorder=score
Hello FHHS
I left two messages for Nicola Byrnes yesterday
The second shorter message I can see
The first longer message I cannot see but it had been approved earlier, there was alot of research in that reply, please can you let me know what is happening.
Thank you
Good evening.
My grandfather Charles David Henwood age 10 is resident at 156 Lillie Road Fulham in 1901.
I believe this was an orphanage. His father died in 1900 and his mother went to America with her new husband, leaving her children behind.
I was told this was a Spurgeon’s Home but they have no record of him.
He always donated to Barnado’s so maybe it was a Barnardo’s home?
Would you have any information, or point me in the right direction
Hello Chris
Home for Orphan and Fatherless Boys setup by Evangalist Sydney Black and Matron, Mrs Stickland works for him as found in the 1901 census with your grandfather
http://www.moellerhaus.com/Rotherham/black04.htm
To one of such warm compassion and benevolent impulsiveness as Sydney Black, this story was overwhelming, and he there and then decided to devote himself to looking after the children of the poor, and well and nobly did he do so. A few rooms at the top of “Twynholm House” were set aside for this work, but the number who needed help and home were so numerous that it was found necessary to take a house to be used solely for the accommodation of the boys. For the purpose a place was secured at 156, Lillie Road, a few hundred yards away from “Twynholm,” and there for some years the Home was located until it proved to be too small.
In all, about £1,400 was expended on the new Home, and in it this splendid work is still carried on, under the devoted care of the present Matron, Mrs. Stickland.
He sent Dr. Barnardo, He sent Benjamin Waugh, the man of whose death we have heard today; and He sent Sydney Black; and I love to think of him as God’s messenger. It is a work which is most precious to men, as well as dear to God. What does it do? It saves the wreckage of society. It saves the wastage of that most precious treasure the world has – child life. There is no asset the nation possesses which is so real and intrinsically valuable as its child population; and here is a hand stretched out to save those who would otherwise be lost.
Sydney Black Preacher & Social Reformer
http://www.moellerhaus.com/Rotherham/blackidx.htm
Any profit that may be derived from the sale of the book will be devoted to the work of the Twynholm Orphanage.
http://london.openguides.org/wiki/?Twynholm_Baptist_Church
Twynholm Baptist Church is a medium sized evangelical church in Fulham. It was originally built as a gin house but for some reason never got a license so was bought up and turned into an orphanage and then a church.
https://www.cte.org.uk/Publisher/File.aspx?ID=176110
He (Sydney Black) also founded the Twynholm Orphanages which were later merged with Spurgeon’s
Orphanage.
https://www.spurgeons.org/about-us/access-your-records-and-old-scholars/
Sorry thought I was getting somewhere then come across the same as you – Spurgeons!
Can only suggest to contact Spurgeons again showing that the orphanages merged and to also ask Fulham Local Archives for any information.
If anyone is aware of where Caldwell Villa used to be, somewhere by North End Road per the birth certificate from 1860, I would be very happy to know of a general area in Fulham. I can’t find Caldwell Villa listed any any old maps yet.Thanks, Catherine
Catherine, I haven’t found mention of Caldwell Villa yet but if you can let me know the name on the birth certificate I could take a look at the Censuses.
Hi Mark, My great uncle’s name was George Bevan. I have a copy of the 1861 census and the family is still at Caldwell Villa. The entry at the very top says North End Road, so maybe the family home was just a building along that road and won’t ever show up on an old map. By the 1871 census they had moved to Elm Stables. Thanks, Catherine
Catherine, I took a look at the 1861 Census and George Bevan shows on the original census document as aged 0 and living at Caldwells Villa but on the transcription on the website I use it has somehow been transcribed as Auckland Cottage, North End Road.
Scrolling on down the page of the original census shows that the next building along from Caldwells Villa was Acacia Cottage. An entry in Feret’s Fulham Old and New says of Acacia Cottage –
“The Garden entrance to the Earls Court Exhibition covers the site of Acacia Cottage and Garden Cottage, picturesque bits of old Fulham”.
The above piece appears in the book after a piece, including a photograph, about The Seven Stars public house (closed in 2010) which I know, (from personal experience of it) stood just past the junction of North End Road and Lillie Road, and not far from West Kensington Station.
My 1871 map of Fulham and Hammersmith shows a number of cottages and a couple of larger buildings (one being The Hermitage and the other unnamed but possibly the Cannon Brewery)) on this stretch of North End Road so I’d say Caldwells Villa was one of the villas (North End Villa being another) along the east side of North End Road somewhere between the junction with Lillie Road and the West Kensington Estate.
Thank you so much for this info. It certainly gives me a better idea as to where the family once lived. Catherine
I amattempting to find out more about what my Grandfather did during WW1 – he was a member of the Quaker Meeting and was living in Hammersmith in 1911. Is it possible that the quarterly meeting minutes still exist for 1914-18? and where might I find them? He was known by the family to be a Conscientious Objector and possible was involved with agriculture and/or the Friends Army
Jenny Dennis
Hello Jenny
I think these people will be the ones to ask:
http://www.hammersmithquakers.org.uk/about-us/our-history/
Members of the Society of Friends (better known as Quakers) have been living and worshipping in Hammersmith since 1658 when Hammersmith and Chiswick were farming villages. The Quakers had begun spreading their form of Christianity in the North of England a few years earlier. George Fox, the Quakers’ founder, taught that all men and women possess an inward light that can lead them to the Truth. People seeking God, he said, can follow this inner prompting and do not need church ministers – a view highly unpopular with religious authorities and the state.
http://www.hammersmithquakers.org.uk/about-us/our-history/
Members of the Society of Friends (better known as Quakers) have been living and worshipping in Hammersmith since 1658 when Hammersmith and Chiswick were farming villages. The Quakers had begun spreading their form of Christianity in the North of England a few years earlier. George Fox, the Quakers’ founder, taught that all men and women possess an inward light that can lead them to the Truth. People seeking God, he said, can follow this inner prompting and do not need church ministers – a view highly unpopular with religious authorities and the state.
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I am interested in the life and work of the commercial artist Reginald Heade, who lived at 11 Queen’s Mansions, Brook Green, Hammersmith from the mid-1940s until his death in 1957. Any information anyone has from local sources would be gratefully received!
Hello S J Walker
Why has probate taken two years and the estate went to the county treasurer and children’s officer
I believe commercial artist Reginald Cyril Webb Heade was illegitimate, perhaps Reginald wanted his legacy to be left to vulnerable children
1901 BIRTH
Name: Reginald Cyril Webb
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: West Ham
Mother’s Maiden Name: Webb
Inferred County: Essex
1911 CENSUS
Name: Reginald Cyril Heade
Age in 1911: 9
Relation to Head: Grandson
Birth Place: Forest Gate
Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Street address: 56 Leonard Road
Sub-registration district: Forest Gate
Household Members:
Ann Webb Mother 64
Florrie Webb Daughter 27
Annie Mary Heade ‘Widowed’ Daughter 31
Reginald Cyril Heade Grandson 9
1917 BAPTISM
Name: Reginald Cyril Webb Heade
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1901
Baptism Date: 31 Mar 1917
Baptism Place: Forest Gate, St Saviour, Essex
Father: James Heade traveller
Mother: Annie Mary Heade
There is no marriage for James and Annie
Why wait to be baptised age 15
1925 CITY DIRECTORY
Art Work
https://reviews-and-ramblings.dreamw…g/1043772.html
https://downthetubes.net/?p=36830
Name: Reginald Cyril Heade
Company: Petterson & Heade
Residence Place: London
Occupation: Commercial Artist
1939 NATIONAL REGISTER
Unable to find
Soldier
Using art skills for the war
1957 DEATH
Name: Reginald C W Heade
Death Age: 54
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Hammersmith
1959 PROBATE
Probate to Fred Williams county treasurer and Margaret Ethel Cullen children’s officer
Name: Reginald Cyril Webb Heade
Death Date: 14 Oct 1957
Death Place: London
Probate Date: 25 Mar 1959
Probate Registry: London
https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/93632-ARTIST-REGINALD-CYRIL-WEBB-HEADE?p=672446#post672446
Hi Lorraine. Many, many thanks for the reply about Reginald Heade. Much of that information was already known to me, but some very significant details – including the identity of his father – were not. That is enormously useful.
Hello Stephen
Pleasure.
There are lots of potential James Heade ‘fathers’ on Ancestry who you could contact, asking could your ancestor be the father, family rumour, these days to be sure a DNA test.
Did Reginald or his mother Annie make-up the name James for the father on Reginald’s very late baptism age 15, father James is listed as a traveller, had the father not known he left behind a pregnant woman and had a son and on coming back to the area insisted on a baptism? Who knows?
Hi, I have established that my Grandfather was born in Stanley Cottages, circa 1888, some time before the family moved to Prothero Rd in Fulham, does anybody know where Stanley Cottages would have been please?
Pam,
Much of Fulham was still rural in the 19th century and rows of cottagesre a-planty.
Stanley Cottages were situated in North End Road, Fulham. I’m not sure exactly where but looking at the 1881 Census they are shown as numbers 2 and 3 North End Road and seem to have been close to the Prince of Wales public house in Lillie Road. It seems likely that they were part of Sir John Lillie’s development, planned in 1826, which included the North End Brewery. Other rows of cottages (e.g. Garden Cottages) were also in the vicinity. Within 30 years much of the area was redeveloped into the roads we see today including the Peabody Estate and looks to have swallowed up the rows of cottages.
The Stanley Cottages were probably named after Sir John Stanley who owned property in North End from the 18th century, so perhaps Stanley Cottages pre-dated the Sir John Lillie development.
Oh Mark, that’s great, I have a friend in Hammersmith who will know exactly where that is.
Thank you kindly for your help.
Pam
I’m not sure if it’s possible to amend text but what I wrote in the first line should, of course, have said ‘rows of cottages were a-plenty.’ Must have been the wine….
Thank you for your help with this, it starts to make sense, the family attended the Saint Thomas of Canterbury Church Church and the children all went to the school there as well. It would have been an easy move to Prothero Rd as it is literally just around the corner.
This is wonderful information and thanks again.
There may have been 2 lots of Stanley cottages
Stanley Cottages Fulham SW6 name changed to Rylston Road 1888
Stanley Cottages Fulham W14 & SW6 North End Road # 1884
The second entry looks to me as if they straddled the 2 postal districts possible on the borders of the old Met borough of Fulham, around Gibbs Green
Actually rethinking this it’s more likely to be nearby to Telephone place,as I believe the postal boundaries was there between SW6 and W14,following Lillie Road.
Thanks, Vernon. Rylston Road is in SW6 and is certainly in the right area to have been where Stanley Cottages once stood in North End Road and Prothero Road, where Pam’s family moved to, runs off of Rylston. It’s likely to have been these Stanley Cottages rather than the Gibbs Green ones, which would have been W14 but a long way from the W14 of the West Kensington area of North End Road.
Rylston Road runs parallel with North End Road and does appear on the 1891 Census but Stanley Cottages do not. It’s on the opposite side of North End Road to where I thought Stanley Cottages were but as you say they became part of Rylston Road (it’s quite a long road, running from Lillie Road to Dawes Road) in 1888 you’ve got to be right.
Incidentally, the 1891 Census shows a Stanley Cottage (singular) in Farm Lane which, as you’re probably aware, still survives at the Fulham Broadway (Walham Green) end of North End Road.
An 1871 map of Hammersmith and Fulham seems to show Rylston Road being known as Church Road then, so prior to 1888 Stanley Cottages may well have sat on Church Road. I’ve now checked in my copy of Feret’s Fulham Old and New and it confirms that Rylston Road was once known as Church Road, due to the existence of St Thomas’ Roman Catholic Church, but more properly as Stanley Road. This makes it more likely that this was the location of Stanley Cottages although Feret only mentions Church Cottages and Temperance Cottages as being a row of ‘poor tenements’ at the northern end on the east side of the road. It says these were demolished in 1897.
Hi Pam,
A great uncle of mine was also born at Stanley Cottage, Fulham, per his 1857 birth certificate. There is a web site mapco.net where you can access London maps at different points in time. I also have an image of the area, an 1862 map, showing Stanley Cottage labeled and it was right next to Church Road at the time & a bit west of North End Rd. and slightly north of Dawes Lane. Catherine
That’s fantastic Catherine, thank you for your help with this. I will look at the maps and send the information to my Cousin who still lives in the area.
Thank you again.
Pam
Thanks for telling us about this map website. It had escaped my attention. It will prove most useful in the future,I knew of other online sources, but not this one. Historyaschurchfulham akaVernon. Click picture to discover more.
Glad to be of help. Catherine
Are you aware of the D-Day Event taking place on 8th June in St.Paul’s Gardens! Please see LBHF website for details
Looking for photos of mr alfred frost of 33 chelmsford street w6 a market trader of north end road in the 50s also any photos of the street
There is an extensive selection of photographs of most of the boroughs roads held by LBHF archives at the Hammersmith Library. The archivist is there on a Monday and Tuesday and can be contacted by email archives@lbhf.gov.uk . As for photographs of Mr Frost the best chance would be newspaper articles if there were any newsworthy events in his life or possibly an obituary. Local papers are held on Microfiche at the archive. Your best bet would be to attend personally.
Good luck.
Hi, does anyone remember when Lloyd’s Bank was at Fulham Broadway, originally it was known as Walham Green branch. I remember Walham Green branch on the cheque books, I was hoping someone might remember when the change was made by Lloyd’s to use Fulham Broadway name. Thank you in advance.
Hi, my GGrandparents lived in Prothero Rd and the children all went to the St Thomas of Canterbury Church, Rylston Rd, just around the corner. The mother and one of the girls worked at the Fulham Laundry so my question is this, would there be any digitised records that I could search online please? I live in Australia so it’s not handy to drop in.
Thank you.
What sort of records, and what have you checked already. British newspaper library, National Archives, London Metropolittan Archives,Hammersmith Archives, Findmypast , Genesreunitedetc? All have on line search engines
Thank you for your suggestions, I contacted St Thomas of Canterbury Church some years ago but nothing had been digitised at the time, I also tried to find information about the Fulham Hammersmith Laundry but apparently there were a couple and I have no idea which one my ancestors worked at. I have discovered a lot using Genesreunited and continue to use this great tool.
I would like to know a newspaper website, I haven’t looked there but years ago I went into the Hammersmith Library and it was through the National Archives that I discovered where the family lived.
I’m very greatful for your help and appreciate any further tips. Thank you.
Hello Pam
Just out of interest Chinese sailors setup laundries in Fulham from as early as 1871, your ancestor could have worked at this laundry?
1871 CENSUS
Name: William Achong born 1824 China, Morvern laundry man
Spouse’s name: Sarah Achong laundress
Sister: Jamima Corke laundress
Civil Parish: Fulham
Street Address: 2 Maxwell Road
1878 UK CITY & COUNTY DIRECTORIES
Commercial
Achong William laundry 36 Maxwell Road
1878 UK CITY & COUNTY DIRECTORIES
Laundries
Achtong Wm 36 Maxwell Road Fulham SW
1880 LONDON ENGLAND CITY DIRECTORIES
Commercial
Achong William laundry 36 Maxwell Road Fulham SW
1881 CENSUS
Name: William Achong born 1826
Spouse: Sarah Achong laundress
Daughter: Eleanor Achong work in laundry
Where born: (B S), China
Civil Parish: Fulham
Street address: 36 Maxwell Rd
Hello Pam
Didn’t realise laundries could be so interesting.
http://www.avictorian.com/servants_laundry.html
https://www.tate.org.uk/art/research…girls-r1136823
http://www.britishchineseheritagecen…B4%97%E8%A1%A3
http://www.oldandinteresting.com/his…g-clothes.aspx
https://englishhistoryauthors.blogsp…d-laundry.html
Have read an interesting article previously (but now can’t find!!) about the health of laundry workers being affected by the constant wet and damp – but people were exposed to so many diseases being housed so closely together, with so many people in the same rooms.
With regard to damp, bed linen every morning had to be thrown back to ‘air’ and then a metal bed pan used each evening to remove any accumulated damp which could cause serious illness overnight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bed_warmer
Watching the Antiques Roadshow Victorian householders and those travelling to lodging houses/boarding houses would use a damp detector every night in their bed before going to sleep so they could make arrangements to remove excess damp.
That is so interesting, who would have thought about that and I wonder what a dampness detector was?
I would appreciate someone telling me about Goldings Cottages. My great great grandmother Harriet (?) Sedwell lived there ca 1870. Anything about the run of cottages would be of interest. My brother thought that it might have a religious cast to it. Any detail on the Sedwells would be a bonus. Her daughter Charlotte Jane married William McLean (address Savages Greengrocers, Queens Terrace (?), Kings Road, Fulham according to the 1871 census. and they emigrated to Auckland in 1874 on the ‘Miltiades’. Thanks in advance for any comment – Vernon Tupper
Golding’s Cottages were in Fulham SW6 and the address was part of Sands End Lane in 1902,the row of old cottages was demolished about the time. (Feret) They were near Sandford manor house close by Stanley Bridge., if one passed down the narrow passage way to the Manor house Golding’s buildings were on the right.The estate itself was purchased by the Imperial gas works in 1824.
The West London observer has the following advert in 1887.
3 GOLDING’S COTTAGES, Sands End Lane, Fulham. House TO Let, suit Laundress, large rooms and drying ground; I0s, per week. the ad ran for 3 weeks in June
Thank you for this understanding. I live in Auckland (a fair distance away in time and space) so my ‘picture’ of these equally distanced people and their lives is bare bones. The details you have provided allow me to add a little flesh.
Best wishes Vern
Just to sat that the British newspaper library now has Fulham Chronicle on line from1913 to 1949
Are you able to help me with Fulham schools and education 1844-1851? My great-grandfather was Samuel Knight born 1839 in Fulham, from a middle-upper working class family. He received a very good education. I have found one private school on Fulham Rd run by Thomas & Graham Hackman 1839 which he may have attended – if it was still open 1844 onwards?
Looking forward to any further information you may be able to provide.
Thank you, Berris Knight Spicer
Up to the end of the 19th century education was provided by church , charity or private sectors; the porch school was founded in Fulham Church(All Saints) in the 17th c. In 18th and 19th c. schools were mainly private, many only lasting a few years.There were 10 listed in the 1841 census, but only 4 in 1851 * and 1861.
I list her the schools available in 1841 census
Mulgrave Avenue School
Richmond Road school
Portland Place school
Parsons Green school
Burlington Road School *
Kensington Hall school *
Pitt Place School
Cedar House School *
Melville House School *
London Road School
If you can give us the road he lived in we might be able to get a more accurate name.
The Hackmans school was in the High Street (Fulham?) in 1831, this could have be the old porch school and the site where Fulham Pre-Prep school, but formerly All Saints primary school is today
Vernon, Alfred Hackman, born in Fulham in 1811, matriculated as a servitor student at Christ Church College, Oxford in 1832 and had a connection with the Bodleian Library for over 35 years, rising to sub-librarian. He also became chaplain and precentor of Christ Church, and vicar of Cowley (near Oxford). Fascinatingly, his 1851 Census entry shows his occupation as ‘With Cure Of Souls’!’ The address is shown as 1, High Street, Fulham.
His father, Thomas, was the parochial vestry clerk in Fulham and I suspect the Hackman’s School was a Church school run by members of the same family. Thomas Hackman shows as the oldest family member in the 1841 Census. His wife is also shown along with four of their other children as well as 41 other children between the ages of 7 and 15, presumably pupils. In fact, the 1841 Census shows the Hackman family at presumably the same location as in the 1851 Census but Fulham High Street was then known as London Road, which was the stretch of Fulham Road, no more than a narrow lane, that ran from Fulham High Street to Fulham Broadway, and didn’t have a door number as such. That stretch had been known as London Road in records of 1442 and probably earlier.
Mark, Thanks for this, will now add to ASChurch info file.
Hi, My 2 great-uncle was born at Caldwell’s (or Caldwell) Villa by/on North End in 1860, per his birth certificate. I have a set of the 1862 Stanford maps and can’t find Caldwell’s Villa on it. Do any of you know where it might have been located in 1860?
Thanks, Cate
Hi.
My great grandfather (William Charles Butcher) died in Fulham Broadway in April 1893, trampled by a horse. I have searched through newspaper archives etc but have found no real details of the event. Were such things that common? Can anyone fill in the blanks?
Many Thanks
John Butcher
Hello John
As William died violently the coroner should have held an inquest, the details will be on William’s death certificate (do you already have the death certificate or is this a family story that has been handed down the generations). My great-grandfather was trampled by a horse and cart but survived with terrible leg injuries causing him to become an alcoholic to dull the pain, this was a ‘family story’ but then evidenced when we found his records in a children’s hospital. Another relative had his head decapitated at an air field in WWI where he was working in 1918 aged only 16 had only just started working for the war effort – on his death certificate the coroner puts his comments and the report found in several newspapers and at the local archives.
I used the British Newspaper Archive for William but no joy, so suggest you obtain the death certificate and contact the local archives.
I noticed from William’s marriage in 1889 that he was a (horse drawn) bus conductor and in the 1891 census a (horse drawn) omnibus driver, the accident may have happened through his work or just in everyday life.
Coroner Holds Inquest If Violent Death Reported
https://www.gov.uk/after-a-death/when-a-death-is-reported-to-a-coroner
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/births-deaths-and-marriages/deaths/coroners-and-mortuary
Early English Traffic: Turn of the Century London (1896-1903)
British Pathé
Show very busy roads with horse drawn vehicles including omnibuses
The Horse World Of London
The Omnibus Horse
https://www.victorianlondon.org/publications6/horse-01.htm
Public transport in Victorian London: Overground
https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/information/item/2008-1998
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsebus
Conductors License
TfL Corporate Archives Research Guides
Research Guide: Sources for Genealogical Research
If a work related death could help with how to research
Transport for London Corporate Archives
The Story of the Bus and London Transport
Busman’s Holiday
http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/ar-bus1.htm
The Displacement of London’ s Horse Omnibus
http://archive.commercialmotor.com/article/17th-january-1907/3/the-displacement-of-london-s-horse-omnibus
The London Omnibus
http://knowledgeoflondon.com/buses.html
Omnibuses and Cabs
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Omnibuses_and_Cabs/Part_I/Chapter_IX
Do you know the history of the Wharfs near Fulham Football ground. One is called Palace Wharf.E.G. When were they built and why. Any help gratefully received
For a list of wharves see my post in Contact us for 10 Jan 2018. Hammersmith and Fulham had a number of Riverside industry and businesses, including coal imports, marble imports, dust shoots , sugar manufacturers , oil and petrol importers etc. The wharves would have been constructed as the industries developed.Palace wharf was built in 1907 on land owned by James Attersoll acquired in 18th c. ,who had malthouses on was once was Crabtree fields other wharves followed after 1907 including the one for j. Mears and sons who Built the embankment wall for Bishops Park.
Hi there 🙂
I was wondering if anyone would be able to tell me anything about the addresses 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10 Broadway, Walham Green SW. My great great grandmother Mabel Doris Flewett is living there on the 1911 census as a draper’s assistant. Googling it hasn’t come up with anything unfortunately. Many thanks, Susie Longstaff.
2,3,4,5,6, Fulham Broadway(Walham Green) was next door to the pub at 571 Fulham Road, and was the premises of Timothy Davies Ltd Drapers. I believe there were flats above the shops, so may well have been for their employees. I have not checked the census records which will certainly give a clue to the numbers present there.
When the store closed (cant remember when) but I did go in there in late 50s it became a Council department for Social Services, and library bookstore, and then became the Blue elephant Thai restaurant. If you google Blue elephant Fulham you will find a picture and a street sign giving the numbers of the block.
Vernon, I don’t know if you are aware that Timothy Davies was Welsh and established a Methodist chapel in Effie Road in 1897.
I cannot remember Timothy Davies store being open during WW2.; it must have closed about 1939. At one time it was a British Restaurant during the War. The food was not brilliant. – we only ate there once!.
OLD HAMMERSMITH MARKET (BRADMORE LANE)
I have previously had some amazing responses to my comments on this site regarding the old market and my family (the Dear family). I have become conscious that, as the generations that directly worked within the market have passed, it has seemingly become a largely forgotten part of everyday Hammersmith life. I have also been surprised at how few photographs appeared to exist of the Bradmore Lane market.
As a consequence, I established a Facebook group page in January to remember and celebrate the market.
The group page is titled “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered” and, as the members have grown, it now includes some wonderful photographs and information about the families and people that so influenced the market, from its inception at the turn of the 20th Century, through to its closure (in Bradmore Lane) in 1972.
I am particularly keen to find descendants of the Parker family (a key part of the Hammersmith market history).
If interested, or able to add to the group, please feel free to visit.
Many Thanks,
Cary Sumpter
Hi Cary, I was born in Hammersmith lived in Overstone Road, and then I lived with my Nan in Shortlands. In the sixties. My Family name was Roberts, my uncle was married to Ada Parker.. I have fond memories of Hammersmith market. I’m trying to get on Facebook.and look forward to reading other peoples memories.my uncle billy Roberts had a fruit and veg shop at the bottom of beacon hill just opposite overstone road. That was in the late fifties early sixties.. I could go on and on.as so many memories.
Hi Lorraine,
I lived in Shortlands & remember you & your family well. I used to play a lot with Susan I think we were the same age. You would know me as Valerie Todd.
Hi Valerie, lovely to hear from you, I have such good memories of Shortlands, but, all changed now. How the years have flown by. I find this site very interesting, and always looking out for anybody I know. As I’m getting older, often think of my life at Shortlands, and what fun we had growing up there. Saturday morning pictures, firework night, with the big bonfire by the mews. Sue Keith and I often get together with our families, although we are not to far away from each other.
Hi I was born in Hammersmith. I know the name of Ada Parker- did she have a son called John? My name is Graham Kent.
Hi Graham, yes Ada did have a son named John
I went to primary school with John and I remember his parents having a fruit and veg stall in the market, which is no longer there. He also had a sister but I cant remember her name.
Hi Graham,
Suggest that you may like to visit our group on Facebook titled “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered” which includes contributions from the Parker family, as well as some lovely photos, including some of Ada Parker and family.
Regards,
Cary Sumpter
Hi Graham,
I have just picked-up your reply to Lorraine Lebby regarding Ada Parker, from the Parker’s stall in the old Hammersmith Market. If of interest, please take a look at our Facebook page “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”, which has many posts regarding the Parker family, as well as photos of Ada and her family.
Kind Regards,
Cary Sumpter
Just seen your post asking [ descendants Parker family ) my name. Is James always known as Bill my father had his own stall opposite end to Parker’s shop his name was John his stall was mainly fruit we had another stall next to this mainly fruit of the season ie strawberries some time flowers my stall was vegetables live just before market closed we took on the shop you mentioned ( Roberts) people who had len
& ivy Bexley ivy was related to your uncle bill any further questions contact me e mail supplied.
Thanks James
I have passed on your email address. Hopefully you should hear soon.
Hi – my grandparents owned a restaurant in the early 1950s in Beadon Road. I believe it was no 45 or 47 and called Beadon’s (before the office blocks!). The owners, my grandparents, were Greek-Cypriot immigrants and I’m told that famous actors rehearsing and performing at the Lyric Theatre would go in for breakfast, lunch or dinner – including Kenneth Williams, Paul Schofield, Sylvia Simms, Richard Burton, Trevor Howard and so on and so on. The list was endless but the celebrities would go nowhere else and were regulars! I have two or three photos of the inside, but cannot find any archive photos of the frontage on Beadon Road in the late 40s or 50s. If anyone remembers the restaurant, the people or knows about this era i would love to hear. My grandad’s name was “Jack” (Melis Jacovides) and he befriended anybody with a joke and his wife was “Jennie” (Yianoulla). Jack was also a barber by trade (starting out in Kings Cross with a barber shop! Jennie was the head cook and also a dressmaker. They lived in Ealing and my mum went to the Corona stage school around the corner to the restaurant (and her claim to faim was that she was in a couple of productions, including an extra in St Trinians films, in the same class as Dennis Waterman, Carol White, Richard O’Sullivan and Francesca Annis!). Thanks for any info – I’m nostalgic because my mum and grandparents all passed away in the last 20 years.
Melina, I have a group set-up on Facebook, called “Old Hammersmith Market Remembered”, which may be of interest to you? Apart from old photos of the market, we also have some old photos of Glenthorne Road and Beadon Road, which I think might show your grandparents restaurant. Regards, Cary
Hi Cary – I just saw this and will join the facebook group ! Also, I have just this minute read your message on facebook – thank you so much!
Hello, I’d appreciate any help with information on Rev John J. Crowley, pp, St Thomas of Canterbury Fulham. I believe he was there from 1899 for around 40 years.
I look forward to your reply. Many thanks in advance.
Hi
I wonder if anyone can help solve a puzzle for me.
A friend’s great grandparents, Robert and Helen Martin White lived at a “normal” house at 45, Felden Street, Fulham but it was requisitioned by the government at the start of WW2 (yes, WW2) and was never given back to them.
We can’t think why an ordinary house would be requisitioned, and why it was never given back.
Graham Corio
You might be interested in this link, Graham –
https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1954/jul/20/requisitioned-houses
Our book Fulham in the Second World War only mentions a fatality from an incendiary bomb in 1943 at Felden Street. So nothing obvious but there may be more detailed information in the LBHF Archive in Hammersmith Library (archives@lbhf.gov.uk ). Searching their online catalogue suggests there may be some documents relating to requisitions for housing. The archivist is there Mondays and Tuesdays. Good luck
Hello we would love someone from the society to come to our office and talk to us about the history of Fulham so we can relay the information to those clients who are interested. Would anyone be able to do this? I look forward to hearing from you. Ann Benson
Dear Ann,
If you’ll forgive a shameless attempt to sell a book, I was born in 1934 at 477 Fulham Road and lived there until 1960. I wrote about it in, The Rising Son. It’s available at Amazon and all good booksellers as they say.
Kind regards
James Kelso
Dear Ann – I published a book on the local area in 2015, Wild about Fulham and my historian might be interested in helping you. If you’d like to get in touch please let me know – best regards AW
Hi.
I am trying to trace my paternal grandfather. As far as I know he was from Cyprus and met my father’s mother at the hammersmith theatre. I wonder if there were any records of patrons names around 1962. I have found who I believe to be him on the st marylebourne census from 1963 – 1965 but then disappears. May not even be him. The name on my fathers birth certificate is Dimitrios Dimitriou. Any help would be greatly appreciated
I am sure this is a long shot but I went to Holland Park School, 1959/64. We were a League of Nations at that time and someone by that name was in my class. Are you referring to the Hammersmith Palais? Very popular at the time.
I grew up in Archel Road, Fulham in the fifties and quite a lot of Greek Cypriot families came over at that time. And it was a common name. We had a family of the same name came to live opposite us.
Do you have a birth or marriage date that might help? Also any names of children?
I guess that the theatre was the Lyric. Hammersmith Palais was a dance hall.
Hello, I would like to find out about an incident of a scaffolding collapse in Dawes Rd SW6 in 1973 I think. Many thanks. Ian.
Unless someone reading your post can narrow down the date it would be a bit of a labour to search the microfilm copies of the local papers at the Archives in Hammersmith Library. You could try a search of British Newspaper Archive
Good luck
Any idea where this location is? Postcard says Hammersmith
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Hi I’m away at present but may be able to
Find out some info in a couple weeks time
Do you know s month or date when this
Occurred
Brian Jeffreys
Hi Brian
About 1914.
Possible location: Rutland Road, Bridge View near Hammersmtih Bridge.
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Keith W. Howard
I recall that there was a dairy in Wandsworth Bridge road towards the south end, I think the name was OWEN. It was next to an antique junk store back in the 1950’s. https://www.google.ca/maps/@51.4738553,-0.1919862,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9e_V2M-yfp13P_SHqZb8lQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Mike
Yes there was a dairy called “Owen” in Wandsworth Bridge Road near St Matthew’s church. I am not sure if it was “Owen jones” though
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I am trying to find out information on the dairy my Nan owned in Battersea it was called PD Owen dairy
Miranda best if you contact the LB of Wandsworth Archive for information 👍
There was an Owen milkman in Fulham, so perhaps the firm spread across the river, and an Owen dairies company still exists today. If you check google books there is a publication called Growing up in Fulham, with an entry that starts…Owen the milkman, a genial balding Welshman with a wholly undeserved reputation as a ladies’ man, had a small, old-fashioned dairy on the corner of Lalor and Waldemar Avenue
My Grandfather George Thomas Groves was a milkman in the Hammersmith area from an early age. The 1911 census shows him as a milkman age 19 but the 1901 census shows him age 9 with no further details. He had no education and family information was that he was “carrying heavy milk cans around London” from when he was a child. He lived at 4 Beavor Lane, Hammersmith and came to Australia in 1912. It would be interesting to know how milkmen operated at the time. Also anything on Beavor Lane which is now completely different from what it was then.
Vernon, you forgot to mention that the lovely book Growing Up In Fulham was written by that old Sloane boy, Harry Turner. Owen appears on page 14 and his dairy was on the corner of Waldemar Avenue and Lalor Street. The Welsh always seemed to run a dairy in Fulham. A couple of Welsh sisters named Jenkins ran our local dairy which stood in Burnthwaite Road. In 1900 it was estimated that half of all dairies in London were Welsh due to an influx of Welsh dairymen into London in the mid-19th century. Most came from the Cardiganshire area and were forced to move on as a result of hard times in Wales.
Hello from Colorado! I came across a census record from 1841 and I am trying to clarify a few items to verify a possible relative. Between the two pages of the census record, there are about 40 people listed, 22 with the surname either “Lee” “Loo” or “Leo”. All but one of the children have this surname, and all the others are women between 25 and 40. None of the men listed have this surname. Is this an indicator that it was a brothel? Orphanage? Or something else? The streets referenced are Munster Road, then the second looks something like “Byrons Green Lane” or “Barrons Green Lane”? Either way, it doesn’t appear to exist anymore. Any ideas?
-Sarah Harris
The other road name may be PARSONS Green Lane – not very far from Munster Road
Hello Sarah
What is the full name, birth date, place of birth of your possible ancestor, so we can go into the 1841 census and then look through the image pages you are talking about that have Lee, Loo or Leo.
What is the full name, birth date, place of birth of one of the men you talking about, so we can go into the 1841 census and then look through the image pages you are talking about that have Lee, Loo or Leo.
I had a relative boarding in a small mews cottage in Mayfair with other girls and a matron, no indication what type of premises. By googling the address found out was a church school for girls who mothers were widows (looking at the other girls found their fathers had died and girls came from large families living in that area of London).
Munster Road To Parsons Green Lane
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/parsons+green+lane/muster+road/@51.4757473,-0.2090259,16z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x48760f9ce76e6475:0xaf2af9ed4442d45d!2m2!1d-0.2007733!2d51.4759458!1m5!1m1!1s0x48760f9f25e3e501:0x9636dcea06d9b99e!2m2!1d-0.2096899!2d51.4769571!5i1
I am trying to trace a relative – William Burley who attended Ackmar Rd. Schl.in 1902.His next of kin was given as Fulham Guardians,9 Parson’s Green. Was this Henniker House ? Is there any further info. available?
Ackmar Road School was where, temporarily, children taken into care, orphans, went and they lived around the corner at 9 Parsons Green. If you are interested I have a photo of number 9, now part of Lady Margaret’s School, the Old School House, the cornerstone of the new Ackmar Road School where your relative went. I have had success in tracing relatives in the Board of Guardians records both in the London Archives and on Ancestry. It is amazing how well they documented children even down to when they reached 14 and were found employment, how much they were paid per week. Personally I know of the places Roman Catholic children were sent, a convent in Brook Green for girls, two orphanages in Heston, Middx. For boys, St. Mary’s and St. Vincent’s.
Hello, my Mum recently showed me her biological grandmother’s Mrs Beeton’s book And in the front is written an address which doesn’t seem to now exist. I wondered if you have any information about it. The date is 1930, the name is Miss R Roberts and the address is 2 Madeline Mews, High Street, Putney SW15.
I would be grateful for any information.
Best wishes
Tammie
Hello Tammie I think you need the. London Borough of Wandsworth Archive for your enquiry Good Luck 👍
My great grandfather, Caleb Collins (1856-1930), was London City Missionary at Eelbrook Common from 1889 to 1924 and lived at 2 Hartismere Road with his wife Alice and large family. He contributed to the Booth survey in 1899. I would be interested to know whether anything further is known about him.
I live in Cape Town. Many thanks.
London City Mission has a very extensive archive. I copy here some details for others who may be interested from their website
ARCHIVES
The Mission, which was established in May 1835, has an extensive collection of records and archives which could be of interest to social historians and family researchers.
Where academic or professional researchers use our material, we ask that they supply us with a copy of their findings, which we may freely use for our own (not-for-profit) purposes.
KEY ELEMENTS OF THE ARCHIVES
LCM Magazine (1836 onwards) including much material from missionaries’ daily journals and annual reports
LCM Magazine Indexes 1836 – 1899
LCM Magazine Indexes 1900 – 1963
LCM Magazine Indexes 1964 – 1968
LCM Annual Reports (1835 onwards)
Minutes of the LCM Committee (weekly meetings from 1835)
Family history related e.g. Register of Missionaries
Unpublished annual reports of individual missionaries, autobiographical accounts, etc.
Photos and scanned images
Annotated bibliography
We have gradually accumulated a number of studies on individual missionaries. Sometimes these only contain the basic details of when a person joined the Mission and when they left or died, together with a short published obituary. Others contain much more detailed information e.g. mentions in Committee minute books and long extracts from obituaries, where they exist.
There is a form on their website to complete.
If you’d like to make an enquiry about our archives, please complete the form below or telephone us on 020 7407 7585.
Archive research is done by volunteers and is very time-consuming. If you request a particular document, we would appreciate a donation to our funds – thank you.
Thank you so much for your detailed reply. It is due to an application to the LMS Archive in 2007 that I know anything at all about my great grandfather’s professional life as a Missionary in the Fulham area. Their help was invaluable.
My current inquiry was spurred by old newspaper reports which mentioned him briefly in the formal language of the times. There was also a longer report concerning the suicide of his sister (a Baptist lady missionary) in his house in Hartismere Road in 1897 – a tragedy of which I and my family were entirely ignorant.
He had 11 children from two marriages, none of whom settled permanently in Fulham.
The West London Observer 14th May 1914 records in a lengthy piece the death of the first wife, who bore him 10 children, mentioning the Imperial road Mission hall, which Christ Church Fulham was involved with, and later the a LCMmissioner was at CC in the 1980’s. There is a lengthy list of mourners. There are a number of entries for the family in the British Newspaper online library archive. The Bath Chronicle records the death of his last surviving daughter and records Caleb as being a rector of Stedham-cum-Heyshott,
Thank you so much for further information about Caleb Collins of the LCM. The final sentence: “The Bath Chronicle records the death of his last surviving daughter and records Caleb as being a rector of Stedham-cum-Heyshott,” does not refer to him, however. The rector was an ordained Anglican clergyman of the same name who – as far as we know – was not related to Fulham’s Caleb Collins (who retired to Parham in Suffolk, the county of his birth). London City Missionaries were not ordained and were known as Mr. rather than Rev.
Hello Jackie
Currently looking through the British Newspaper Archives
There are several stories relating to Caleb Collins, will send over soon
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
One story is extremely tragic in 1897
RE: Caleb Collins of Fulham
Thank you so much for your interest and help. I do know about the suicide of Caleb Collins’ sister in 1897, poor soul. There was another person of the same name who lived at the same time and was a parson in the established church. He was always referred to as Rev. Collins, unlike Caleb Collins the LMS missionary, who was a Mr.
Kind regards,
Jackie Loos
Yes I went through the British Newspaper Archives, there were many entries about him, very active with the Peterboro Benevolent Fund and Band Of Hope, too many articles to fully extract, just look up and read about.
Peterborough Benevolent Society
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001984/19160310/081/0005
The amount collected at that festival is the chief source of revenue relied upon by the society, whose work is well known in the district, where it has been established some 81 years, having distributed over £10,000 to the deserving poor of Fulham.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F116538
Death Of Mrs C Collins
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000973/19140508/074/0004
DEATH MRS. C. COLLINS, EELBROOK HALL MISSIONARY’S SAD LOSS. Mr. Caleb Collins, of Hartismere House, Hartismere Road, Fulham, and missionary Eel Brook Hall, has been the recipient of many messages of condolence the loss he has sustained the death of his wile, Mrs. Alice Jane Collins. Mrs. Collins, who was 61 years of age, died on Sunday from heart failure, consequent upon catarrh of the stomach. Born Dorking, in Surrey, Mrs. Collins married her husband at Morden in 1877. Thirty two vears ago Mr. Collins became attached the London City Mission and was appointed a hall which stood in Turks’ Row. and Mrs. Collins lived Battersea at that time. When the old houses there were swept away a great number of the inhabitants came to Fulham, and Mr and Mrs. Collins followed, Mr. Collins being appointed missionary at Eel Brook Hall, Imperial-Road. This was about thirty years ago.
Band Of Hope
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000437/19131107/033/0003
The Band of Hope children West London gathered at the Town Hall, Fulham, on Friday evening, for the annual concert. The boys from the Twynholm Orphanage in Fulham Road provided the bulk of an entertaining programme, and Mr. Will Hardy can be justly proud of the admirable troupe of juvenile entertainers he has made of the Twynholm Orphanage boys, who both in their individual items as well as in their group efforts display marked ability.
Band Of Hope, Temperance Organisation
https://spartacus-educational.com/REhope.htm
Band Of Hope Review, Magazine
http://www.victorianweb.org/periodicals/bandofhope.html
Charles Booth
https://booth.lse.ac.uk/
No wonder Caleb Collins worked alongside Charles Booth
What a person to be related to!
Sorry to FHHS users, now can’t see when people have responded to a comment, and getting other odd messages about duplicate work when the first work isn’t showing up on screen. Computers!
Thank you SO much for your work on the LMS missionary Caleb Collins, you are a star!
My pleasure
People so poor needed help, so you had the selfish rich in society going on guided tours of the slums with more money to buy several homes, fashionable clothes, nourishing food and entertainment than sense and then people like your ancestor supporting many societies raising money to help the most needy, who had no money or little money, so rented a bed on a shift system or just sitting down with a rope to hold them up while they slept, bought second hand clothes so the working class walked around in unfashionable rags, ate cheap poisoned adulterated rotten food and drank themselves into oblivion.
In the workhouses you see a labourer listed alongside a lawyer, no-one deserved to be treated in that way,
Deserving poor and undeserving poor
http://www.herinst.org/BusinessManagedDemocracy/culture/work/deserving.html
https://forthefainthearted.com/2012/12/26/workhouse-grief/
I am trying to found out Fulham Thursday F.C. runners up in 1908/9
Thursday metropolitan shield
I got married in 1970 at the registry office in Hammersmith Road. I wonder if there are any photos of it anywhere
Hi
my paternal grandmother and all of her brothers and sisters hail from Iffley road in Hammersmith and I’m looking into a tragedy during the war where several firemen died fighting a gas fire in the area.
Do you have any r3cord of this?
Thank you in advance.
Nick Smith.
My maternal grandmother was born at 27 Iffley Road, Hammersmith. I’d be very interested to know any history of the area.
Alison Saunders
Hi – Having ;looked at the 1911 cencus, it seems a close ancestor and family lived at 337-339 Fulham Road and it looks like it was a public house ……can anyone tell me what it was called and also whether there would be any photos anywhere
Seems to be Mandaloun Restaurant and Wyndhams butchers now. This is in Kensington and Chelsea so probably best starting point is their archives. They will have directories, maps and rate books.
Good luck in your quest.
Thx – I will
The
Goat in boots was at 333 Fulham Road, a very old historic pub, that was called the Goat up to 1725.
335 and 337 are listed in a pub index, but no name is given, except the proprietor at that time. He and previous owners of the site are described as beer retailers. Perhaps they sold beer to pubs and shops etc.
Can anyone tell me the the connection between Myles Coverdale, the bible translator, and the Primary School, in Shepherds Bush, apparently named after him? Frederick
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The Borough of Hammersmith had two public swimming pools. one was the Lime Grove swimming Pools and the other Was an open air swimming pool on Bloemfontein Road.
The libraries have a blog with illus. about the Bloemfontein one, llbhflibraries.wordpress.com whilst info can be found at http://www.lostlidos.co.uk on lime grove baths
on recent search i found old maps of hammersmith say way back in 1900 sorry cannot remember the site also KELLYS DIR MAY HELP
i think one of the university’s has done a free site to explore bit difficult but with trail and error it is very good vic hill hammersmith 1958 /62
Thank you for the info
Thanks for that info – I assumed they ran a pub but maybe they sold beer to pubs as you suggested…
Hi.
Has anyone come across a teacher by the name of Lillian Emmeline Martin. She was born in 1889 Chelsea the family lived in Fulham 1891-1911 adenc(e)y road & aspenlea road. She is on the 1939 reg as teacher living in east sheen av Barnes( where did she teach?)
I went to Munster Road Primary School in the 1950s but have seen a photo that purports to be of the Munster Road Secondary School in 1947. I’ve never heard of a school by that name so wonder whether they might have got the name wrong. It was a mixed school. Any ideas?
I went to Munster rd “modern secondary” school in 42 I was 10yrs old………. It sat in a triangle of land between Bishop St,Filmer Rd and Munster Rd from which it took its name.At the junction of
Filmer and Munster rd lies Swift St on the corner of which is a bakers shop.A 2lb loaf cost 4old pence/or four bread rolls for
1 old penny!!!! I lived in Swift St.
P/s the bakers shop is still there—76yrs later and still in business
St John’s Cof E Primary School now occupies that site see the other school in this part of Munster Road is Fulham Cross Girls School. There are pictures of the buildings on both websites.
Thanks, P Jenkins.
That’s the first time I knew that my old Primary school had also been a Secondary Modern. Given the year you were there I wonder if it was one of the many amalgamated schools that were created during wartime for those children who weren’t evacuated..My old Grammar school, Sloane, in Chelsea, was the West London Emergency Secondary School for Boys during the Second World War.
Hi again
Was there in 1940’s a hardware or ironmongeryshop in Hammersmith
thank you
Hi
can you please tell me what the Hammersmith Baths were called in about 1937
Thanks for all your information. That’s really helpful. I hope to visit it sometime soon.
Kind Regards,
Lynne. 😀
Does anyone know anything about a lady called Victoria Maud Polson (names maybe the wrong way round). She was a book keeper for an electrical company in 1920 when she had my dad James wyse Polson. Don’t think she was married. Her address was castle Street (or road) Fulham. He was then fostered out to lady in Brighton. Dad passed away 12 years ago and we have never been able to find anything out.any info would be great
Hello Ruth
There isn’t a Castle Street or Castle Road – do you mean Castletown Road?
https://www.streetcheck.co.uk/postcode/w149hg
Electrical company, could be absolutely anywhere?
Fulham Power Station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulham_Power_Station
Lots Road Power Station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lots_Road_Power_Station
Lillie Bridge Depot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillie_Bridge_Depot
1920 BIRTH
Name: James Wyse Polson
Registration Date: Apr 1920
[May 1920]
[Jun 1920]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother’s Maiden Name: Polson
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 667
Do you have James’ birth certificate? If so, is that all the information you have?
1927 LONDON ELECTORAL REGISTER
40 Lillie Road
Name: William Robert Wyse
Year: 1927
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Fulham East and West
2 minute walk from Castletown Road to Lillie Road
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+far+lillie+road+to+castletown+road&oq=how+far+lillie+road+to+castletown+road&aqs=chrome..69i57.8010j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Just some ideas, need more information really, or you do a DNA test and then wait for contact.
Looking for photos with st Edmunds rc comprehensive winning west London cup in 1977 or 78,would really appreciate your help
HI – do you know details of any factories in the Lilly Road area of Fulham that manufactured or worked with dyes, leather, rubber, textiles, or paints by any chance please?
Could this be Chaney Laundry or Morgan Crucible works?
I have found via Find A Grave where a relative is buried. I wrote to LBHF to ask if they had any contact information for this grave, wrote a letter asking for it to be forwarded with my details of the connection. I have drawn a blank with no replies from either.
The relative in question is buried in Sheen Cemetery, born and lived in Fulham, had a wife, children, grandchildren and was my grandmother’s brother though she did not know him. If we could find this family, this would be the first contact with anyone from my grandmother’s side. She was brought up in an orphanage and a half brother killed in WW1 was the only relative she claimed to know of. Is there a way of finding out the owners of this grave? It appears to be well tended.
There are two cemeteries in Sheen and my grandmother is buried in the other one. Unbelievable.
Hello Susan
I would send an EMAIL to Hammersmith & Fulham Council Cemeteries & Burials Office asking for reply to your letters previously sent and un-responded to. If you are able to visit ask for a meeting with the Cemeteries & Burials Office
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/births-deaths-and-marriages/deaths/cemeteries-and-burials
North Sheen Cemetery, in London Borough Of Richmond but managed by Hammersmith & Fulham Council
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sheen_Cemetery
East Sheen Cemetery, in London Borough Of Richmond and managed by London Borough Of Richmond
https://www.richmond.gov.uk/east_sheen_cemetery
Can you give any names of the relatives mentioned to look up, dates, places, occupations or do you want to keep names unknown to researchers.
If you find the relatives you mention in Ancestry you can send a message to people researching that family tree.
If you do not have Ancestry then go to your local library/local archives and use their Ancestry to contact your relatives (in your message you might want to also put your email address as the relatives would reply to the library service/archive service).
Hello,
I am searching my maternal grandmothers family, she was an orphan. The only definite I have of her is a school photograph which has a chalk board at the front stating Waterloo Street School Class 1. She had a brother she lost contact with before they were adults. I have found a school record which is a possible for being her but I don’t know how I can confirm it is her? I could not find a record of her brother. Can anyone help me please?
Searching since 1990.
Regards
Sheila
One of our regulars on this page has researched Waterloo Street School and states that the registers are held at the London Metropolitan Archive. Without names, dates and possible addresses it is difficult to suggest how to proceed. Armed with what you know the Archivist at LBHF based in Hammersmith Library on a Monday or Tuesday may be able to help.
Good luck
If you would like to leave names, dates, other useful information be happy to look up on Ancestry for you and then whatever else may be able to find elsewhere.
Hi. Firstly thanks to all for the great work done on here – always a fascinating read. I am trying to trace where my grandmother, Elizabeth Louisa Wall nee Pope was buried/cremated. She died from septicaemia in Western Hospital, Seagrave Rd in 1921. I have contacted LBHF cemeteries’ dept and they have no trace of her in any of their 4 cemeteries. They also have no records of her husband, my grandfather Albert Ballard Wall, who sadly committed suicide a little while after. Can anyone help please?
Also, I have heard that the Wall family may have had a pawnbrokers shop in Greyhound Rd?
Thanks for your time.
Perhaps your relative may have been buried in Brompton Cemetery in RBKC if they did not actually live in Fulham. Archives has the following inquests records,
Register of inquests held at Fulham Coroners’ Court
Date: Sep 1899 – Jan 1916 so it is possible that a record from the 1920s could still be with the local coroners court in Bagleys Lane.
Thanks for your help.Have checked and they’re not in Brompton Cemetery. They were both born in and lived in Fulham, but I guess not everyone has burial records. I just wondered if anyone had knowledge of Western hospital’s procedures regarding deaths.
Sadly my grandfather’s suicide was in Barking and Essex Coroner’s Court have been rather unhelpful.
Thanks again.
Hello David
Sorry to hear this sad story
1919 MARRIAGE
Name: Albert Ballard Wall
Marriage Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1884
Marriage Date: 27 Apr 1919
Marriage Place: St Albans, Fulham, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: William Albert Wall, bricklayer
Spouse: Elizabeth Louisa Pope
Name: Elizabeth Louisa Pope
Marriage Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1896
Marriage Date: 27 Apr 1919
Marriage Place: St Albans, Fulham, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: George Pope, carman
Spouse: Albert Ballard Wall, soldier
1921 DEATH
Western Hospital
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hospital,_Fulham
Western Hospital
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/MAB-WFever/
Lost Hospitals Of London
https://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/western.html
Died of septicaemia Western Hospital, Seagrave Road
Western Hospital
https://www.mediastorehouse.com/mary-evans-prints-online/western-hospital-seagrave-road-fulham-7246729.html
Name: Elizabeth Louisa Wall
Death Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1896
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
Registration district: Fulham
1921 BURIAL/CREMATION
Born and lived in Fulham
1923 MARRIAGE
Name: Albert Ballard Wall, widower
Marriage Age: 39
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1884
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1923
Marriage Place: Hammersmith, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: William Albert Wall
Spouse: Ellen Elizabeth Walker
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Walker
Marriage Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1896
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1923
Marriage Place: Hammersmith, Hammersmith and Fulham
Father: Henry Walker, railway driver
Spouse: Albert Ballard Wall, railway servant
Railway Servant
http://www.unionancestors.co.uk/amalgamated-society-of-railway-servants/
1925 DEATH
Committed suicide in Barking
Not able to find reported story on British Newspaper Archives
Name: Albert B Wall
Death Age: 41
Birth Date: abt 1884
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925
Registration district: Romford
Inferred County: Essex
1925 BURIAL/CREMATION
Born and lived in Fulham
Ask for help
https://www.lbbd.gov.uk/local-archive-and-history-information
http://www.barkinghistory.co.uk/
https://www.eolfhs.org.uk/
1934 MARRIAGE
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Wall
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun 1934
Registration district: Hammersmith
Spouse: William Pullen
Have replied to this before, not showing up like other posts, is there a problem with software
1925 Nottingham Journal – Friday 11 September
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001898/19250911/178/0007
KILLED ON THE LINE DRIVER PULLS UP BUT TOO LATE
The determined but unsuccessful efforts which a driver made to stop his train on the Fenchurch-to Southend railway, in order to avoid running into the man, was told at Barking yesterday, when inquest was held on Albert Ballard Wall, Commer-Road, Fulham, employed on the underground railway. The driver of the train, Alfred Perry (Shoeburyness) when about 100 yards away, saw the man walking in front the train which was travelling about 40 miles per hour. He opened the whistle and pulled up in about train’s length, deceased was struck by the buffer and killed on the spot. It was surmised that owing to the man’s mental condition he walked in front of the train and verdict of “found dead” was returned.
1925 Nottingham Journal – Friday 11 September
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001898/19250911/178/0007
KILLED ON THE LINE. DRIVER PULLS UP BUT TOO LATE. The determined but unsuccessful efforts which a driver made to stop his train on the Fenchurch-to Southend railway, in order to avoid running into the man, was told at Barking yesterday, when inquest was held on Albert Ballard Wall, Commer-Road, Fulham, employed on the underground railway. The driver of the train, Alfred Perry (Shoeburyness) when about 100 yards away, saw the man walking in front the train which was travelling about 40 miles per hour. He opened the whistle and pulled up in about train’s length, deceased was struck by the buffer and killed on the spot. It was surmised that owing to the man’s mental condition he walked in front of the train and verdict of “found dead” was returned.
Lorraine,
Apologies, but I have only just seen your replies and just wanted to thank you ever so much for all your help.
The last reply re the Nottingham Journal was especially helpful. I am awaiting replies from a few of your suggested links.
Thanks and kindest regards.
Hello,
My Father was born in 1927 & lived on Quarrendon St from about 1931 to some time before 1939. I am trying to establish where he would have gone to school as these would have been his primary school years. What would have been the closest school to this street during this period? Or is there somewhere you could direct me where there may be records I could look into? I believe it may have been a Catholic School he attended.
Kind Regards,
NR
The nearest school to Quarrendon would have been Peterborough Primary school, but this is not specifically a Roman catholic school this was in Clancarty Road with an entrance in Studdridge Street the other catholic schools are (1) along the New Kings Road, the Church of the Holy cross ,Ashington Road and (2) the other side of the Wandsworth Bridge Road the Church of our Lady of the Perpetual succour , Stephendale Road . the new Kings Road one is the most likely due to the differences in housing at that time
Hi there, I’m a reporter with the BBC Local Democracy Reporting Service based at My London (formerly Get West London) and I’m looking for experts on the history of the beautiful Hammersmith Bridge to talk to for a feature. I’m particularly interested in the IRA suitcase bombing and anyone who might have known or been related to Maurice Childs, the man whose quick-thinking saved the bridge. You can email me on talia dot shadwell at reachplc.com
Do you know when Rayleigh Road, W14 ceased to exist? I have found records that it was still in existence in 1938 so it could be war damage? Would you also know what is in its place now? And where would I look to find photos of it in the 1930s? Any help greatly appreciated.
It’s now called Lakeside Road. I think it changed in the mid to late 40s. Before it was called Rayleigh Road it was called Wharton Road.
Both set of my grandparent